Gaffa Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Hope everyone is enjoying their festive period. Wait, that might not read right. Oh well. I did some calculations based on a "what if" scenario - if all players of a heist could grab $475,000 in loot each, how much would we get from the heist in consideration of the percentages. This is all without including the safe in El Rubio's office, and with that said, a solo player can't really take any more than $440,000-$450,000 or so anyway. For that reason, any 1 player calculations there simply include a $425,000 loot bag value, which can be attained from soloable Cocaine pickups, instead of $475,000, which would require Gold. Theoretically speaking, it IS possible to get Gold outside of the main Compound, and there's even statistical data for that in the game, which works. So in theory, that could be one of those things Rockstar switches on or off for certain events, maybe it was just left in there for testing purposes... who knows. Something to point out as well, is that 4x players most likely wouldn't be able to get $475,000 each, because that'd probably require 6+ Gold pickup locations, which I've not yet seen before. - - - Anyway - first table. This is for normal mode, stealing the Pink Diamond. - - - Spoiler - - - Next table - for hard mode, again stealing the Pink Diamond. The hard mode multiplier is 10%, in case anyone was wondering - so the Pink Diamonds normal value of $1,300,000 becomes $1,430,000. - - - Spoiler So with all that said and done, it really does show how much this heist is solo-player oriented, and that perhaps Rockstar should make some adjustments on the overall Loot Bag size when playing with multiple people, or something. Something seems off to me on the whole situation, like some numbers are a tiny bit too low or something, but anyway... - - - Some looting information. Some will have already seen this posted elsewhere, but what I'll do is when I know the bottom and top values for all the things and whatever, I'll do another table and add that to the thread: - - - GOLD Spoiler 1x full table of GOLD (7 presses) = 1200 out of 1800 (66.667% total capacity of bag) 1st press = 100 = 5.556% out of total bag capacity, or 8.333% the total amount of gold from this pickup 2nd press = 300 = 16.667% out of total bag capacity, or 25% the total amount of gold from this pickup 3rd press = 400 = 22.222% out of total bag capacity, or 33.333% the total amount of gold from this pickup 4th press = 600 = 33.333% out of total bag capacity, or 50% the total amount of gold from this pickup 5th press = 800 = 44.444% out of total bag capacity, or 66.667% the total amount of gold from this pickup 6th press = 1000 = 55.556% out of of total bag capacity, or 83.333% the total amount of gold from this pickup 7th press = 1200 = 66.667% out of total bag capacity, or 100% the total amount of gold from this pickup COCAINE Spoiler 1x full table of COCAINE (10 presses) = 900 out of 1800 (50% total capacity of bag) 1st press = 100 = 5.556% of total bag capacity, or 11.111% the total amount of cocaine from this pickup 2nd press = 200 = 11.111% of total bag capacity, or 22.222% the total amount of cocaine from this pickup 3rd press = 280 = 15.556% of total bag capacity, or 31.111% the total amount of cocaine from this pickup 4th press = 340 = 18.889% of total bag capacity, or 37.778% the total amount of cocaine from this pickup 5th press = 380 = 21.111% of total bag capacity, or 42.222% the total amount of cocaine from this pickup 6th press = 460 = 25.556% of total bag capacity, or 51.111% the total amount of cocaine from this pickup 7th press = 580 = 32.222% of total bag capacity, or 64.444% the total amount of cainae from this pickup 8th press = 700 = 38.889% of total bag capacity, or 77.778% the total amount of cocaine from this pickup 9th press = 860 = 47.778% of total bag capacity, or 95.556% the total amount of cocaine from this pickup 10th press = 900 = 50% of total bag capacity, or 100% of the total amount of cocaine from this pickup ARTWORK 1 x painting = 900 = 50% of total bag capacity. WEED Spoiler 1x full table of WEED (10 presses) = 675 out of 1800 (37.5% total capacity of bag) 1st press = 75 = 4.167% of total bag capacity, or 11.111% of the total amount of weed from this pickup 2nd press = 150 = 8.333% of total bag capacity, or 22.222% the total amount of weed from this pickup 3rd press = 210 = 11.667% of total bag capacity, or 31.111% the total amount of weed from this pickup 4th press = 255 = 14.167% of total bag capacity, or 37.778% the total amount of weed from this pickup 5th press = 285 = 15.833% of total bag capacity, or 42.222% the total amount of weed from this pickup 6th press = 345 = 19.167% of total bag capacity, or 51.111% the total amount of weed from this pickup 7th press = 435 = 24.167% of total bag capacity, or 64.444% the total amount of weed from this pickup 8th press = 525 = 29.167% of total bag capacity, or 77.778% the total amount of weed from this pickup 9th press = 645 = 35.833% of total bag capacity, or 95.556% the total amount of weed from this pickup 10th press = 675 = 37.5% of total bag capacity, or 100% the total amount of weed from this pickup CASH Spoiler 1x full table of CASH (10 presses) = 450 out of 1800 (25% total capacity of bag) 1st press = 50 = 2.778% of total bag capacity, or 11.111% the total amount of cash from this pickup 2nd press = 100 = 5.556% of total bag capacity, or 22.222% the total amount of cash from this pickup 3rd press = 140 = 7.778% of total bag capacity, or 31.111% the total amount of cash from this pickup 4th press = 170 = 9.444% of total bag capacity, or 37.778% the total amount of cash from this pickup 5th press = 190 = 10.556% of total bag capacity, or 42.222% the total amount of cash from this pickup 6th press = 230 = 12.778% of total bag capacity, or 51.111% the total amount of cash from this pickup 7th press = 290 = 16.111% of total bag capacity, or 64.444% the total amount of cash from this pickup 8th press = 350 = 19.444% of total bag capacity, or 77.778% the total amount of cash from this pickup 9th press = 430 = 23.889% of total bag capacity, or 95.556% the total amount of cash from this pickup 10th press = 450 = 25% of total bag capacity, or 100% the total amount of cash from this pickup The Jungz, Nog, Konata Inoue and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbatron Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Great thread. So inviting a second player doesn’t make economic sense if you pay more than 20%, and really you’d have to say 15% or less otherwise what’s the incentive for the host (when you could make equivalent money on your own). In practice you have to question whether it would ever be worth inviting randoms, given many of them are likely to a) waste ages squabbling that they want 50%, b) die lots c) probably not fill their loot bags or take low value secondary targets and d) almost certainly not be able to do the elite which is another 100k in the bag if you solo it. So I think this is one for Solo or groups of friends only. I always pay mates over the “fair” rate, but in theory I guess the best way for a group of friends to make money is to each set up your own finale and then do them together so you can max out of the secondary take each time. Gaffa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamwes Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Jimbatron said: So inviting a second player doesn’t make economic sense if you pay more than 20%, and really you’d have to say 15% or less otherwise what’s the incentive for the host (when you could make equivalent money on your own). Randoms? Hell no. But grinding out with a friend who is doing their preps at the same time as you so you can do back to back heists together? that's probably worth it. Probably easier and quicker to get full bags for the elite bonus too. Gaffa and Jimbatron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbatron Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 8 hours ago, Jamwes said: Randoms? Hell no. But grinding out with a friend who is doing their preps at the same time as you so you can do back to back heists together? that's probably worth it. Probably easier and quicker to get full bags for the elite bonus too. I think unless you get very lucky secondary targets it’s going to be quicker to do the finale solo, but time saved is unlikely to outweigh the secondary target extra cash if you all set up your own heists and do each other’s finales. In theory it might be best to pair up and help each other with setups too - on the basis one friend can trigger the mission from the sub, and one friend can already be in an aerial armed vehicle ready in the vicinity of the likely target. That MIGHT outweigh the benefits of doing the set ups independently - not sure about that, just thinking aloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nog Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 This should be sticky man, it is important information. I also dont get why the sticky topic is not getting updated even the guy has reacted to my post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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