Cutter De Blanc Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 The only times stealth messed up for me was when they saw me stealing stuff through a wall. Just decided not to steal anything if their cone of vision was on me at all Rotorhead359 and Nefarious_Poundcake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, cybapete said: i can do the heist (eventually) but i can NOT do the elite challenge i don't even try anymore either i go fast and stuff up immediately with alarms blaring the second i hit the compound or i slow down and take 20 minutes to get through clean take your pick The Elite Challenge is doable, but I would imagine a lot easier with 2 players, because usually there is plenty of loot in the compound to fill two bags. It may not be the most desirable loot, maybe no gold and few paintings. But even if most of the secondary loot is cash, it doesn't matter, as long as you fill your bags. The Elite is actually not that hard. Just watch some of the videos posted by people here, doing it in 8 minutes solo, and that's with leaving the compound and making their way to the secondary loot areas in town before escaping. Solo is harder for Elite, which is almost all of what I do, because you can usually get very little loot in the compound without a second person to open the doors with. Edited January 6, 2021 by ChiroVette HopalongCasidy and Rotorhead359 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snipingsolo Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) i wont try to brag but i did this heist 3 times without messing up that's because it easy in stealth and thats also because its easy to do solo then with randoms Edited January 6, 2021 by Snipingsolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybapete Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 On 1/6/2021 at 9:57 PM, cybapete said: i can do the heist (eventually) but i can NOT do the elite challenge i don't even try anymore either i go fast and stuff up immediately with alarms blaring the second i hit the compound or i slow down and take 20 minutes to get through clean take your pick well i finally got the elite challenge (kinda) some would say i cheated i only got a full bag because there were two paintings in the office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybapete Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) On 1/6/2021 at 6:24 AM, Crafty- said: Keep in mind which gun you are using, its power and how far away you are. I use the conspirator rifle, the pistol is okay but I find I need to be closer to take out guards in a single shot. i used to have the crack shot package but i found the AP pistol was too twitchy and would sometimes let off an extra shot and raise the alarm now i use the marksman package and i find the pistol mark 2 more controllable the problem is it only has an 8 round mag so i'm constantly reloading, AP was 36 rounds Edited January 9, 2021 by cybapete Crafty- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taterman Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Looks like your not alone on this hamr. I tried twice tonight. Went in with the Longfin and tried to grab some loot at the airstrip and lost stealth. Got shot at the whole way but made it to the drainage tunnel and cut my way in. I had night-vision googles selected from the set up screen, but couldn't find the rebreathers in the interactive menu, so I drowned. Still not sure how to use a rebreather. Restarted and tried again anyways and tried to get coke and cash near the north dock. This time I put on a guard outfit and started moving toward the loot. I walked right past a couple guards and made it to the fenced in loot a scoped out earlier, but couldn't get the gate open. There was no option to do anything. Then I somehow broke cover. I never pulled a gun. I also notice some enemies have a red dot but some are white. Still not sure how I became detected. plus the graphics were really choppy at times and I was in a solo-public lobby. Not sure Im gonna bother even trying again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybapete Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Taterman said: Looks like your not alone on this hamr. I tried twice tonight. Went in with the Longfin and tried to grab some loot at the airstrip and lost stealth. Got shot at the whole way but made it to the drainage tunnel and cut my way in. I had night-vision googles selected from the set up screen, but couldn't find the rebreathers in the interactive menu, so I drowned. Still not sure how to use a rebreather. Restarted and tried again anyways and tried to get coke and cash near the north dock. This time I put on a guard outfit and started moving toward the loot. I walked right past a couple guards and made it to the fenced in loot a scoped out earlier, but couldn't get the gate open. There was no option to do anything. Then I somehow broke cover. I never pulled a gun. I also notice some enemies have a red dot but some are white. Still not sure how I became detected. plus the graphics were really choppy at times and I was in a solo-public lobby. Not sure Im gonna bother even trying again. 1. you press G on pc for rebreather im not sure you can use it with a mask though 2. the uniform is not foolproof it will only fool guards for so long & some guards with red vision cones are elite they can see through disguises p.s. you can do everything for cayo perico heist in invite only lobby no need for solo public Edited January 10, 2021 by cybapete clarification Taterman and Rotorhead359 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whywontyoulisten Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Taterman said: I walked right past a couple guards and made it to the fenced in loot a scoped out earlier, but couldn't get the gate open. There was no option to do anything. If you have the cutting torch or bolt cutters you get an on screen prompt to cut the locks. Edit: Also demolition charges. Edited January 10, 2021 by whywontyoulisten Taterman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummerFreeze Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Taterman said: Restarted and tried again anyways and tried to get coke and cash near the north dock. This time I put on a guard outfit and started moving toward the loot. I walked right past a couple guards and made it to the fenced in loot a scoped out earlier, but couldn't get the gate open. There was no option to do anything. You were probably at the location that requires two players to loot. They have a door without a padlock. There is a switch to the side that needs to held for the door to stay open. One of these is at the North Dock, and one on the Main Dock. You can't do anything with these if you're playing solo. Taterman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbatron Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Taterman said: Restarted and tried again anyways and tried to get coke and cash near the north dock. This time I put on a guard outfit and started moving toward the loot. I walked right past a couple guards and made it to the fenced in loot a scoped out earlier, but couldn't get the gate open. There was no option to do anything. Then I somehow broke cover. I never pulled a gun. I also notice some enemies have a red dot but some are white. Still not sure how I became detected. It sounds like you stayed in a guards vision cone to long, they will eventually identify you even with a disguise. It’s quite generous in how much time you can stay before being spotted, if you keep on the move you will be fine. Im not a fan of the North docks as an entry point. The Airfield and the Main docks are better IMHO (unless the loot is poor), because the North Docks is more congested and more risk of being spotted. White blip guards - will ignore you with the outfit you wear entering with either the Velum or Longfin provided you don’t have a weapon drawn. With those entry vehicles you arrive disguised as a smuggler, but that disguise only works close to your entry point. The distinction between the white and red blip is meaningless after you collect a guard clothing disguise. Red blip guards - won’t spot you wearing a guard clothing disguise as long as you don’t stay in their cone of vision too long. Smugglers outfit you wear on arrival doesn’t work on them. Red blip guards with red vision cone (4 in compound, El Rubios personal guard) will spot you instantly even with a guards clothing disguise. It's also worth noting that if you try to grab secondary loot and a guard sees you, your cover will be blown regardless of disguise. That's perhaps unsurprising, but I think if they are close enough they'll hear you through walls - I've had the alarm trigger like this even though the guard didn't have line of sight. Here is a main docks approach with a Longfin using a disguise: https://youtu.be/LPnnCkT-f1k Assuming you can't find a grappling hook or the supply truck, one of the guards just outside the compound will drop the key codes to the side entrance. It's random which one. But if you're disguised, it's easy to pick them off on a time. There are only two by the compound's outer check point that are looking at each other, who you have to kill quickly in succession if one of them has the key codes. If you can find a grappling hook, it's even easier, as you'll have fewer bad guys to kill: https://youtu.be/w_QprLT2dVY Or if you know where the supply truck is, you can take that through the gate: https://youtu.be/w5_L0bdo3rA This one's approaching with the Velum, but the principle is the same if you arrive by Longfin. Edited January 10, 2021 by Jimbatron Nefarious_Poundcake, Rotorhead359 and Taterman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Seems that if you kill the red skull guy it instantly breaks your stealth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbatron Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said: Seems that if you kill the red skull guy it instantly breaks your stealth? If you mean the juggernaut in the compound with the minigun, I have killed him and not set off the alarm. I could be wrong but it feels like you get less time to put the personal bodyguards down, generally I find if you miss the headshot and they get knocked the floor the alarm will go off, with a regular guard you've still got a chance provided they don't get back up again. The problem with the juggernaut is if you don't do the armour disruption prep he'll have a bullet proof helmet, which makes him difficult to dispatch fast enough. Best avoided, if he must be killed (normally only if you're clearing out the compound with a large team), it's probably safest to sneak up behind him and pistol whip him. Not the best run, but just to show it can be done: https://youtu.be/W3nTJBSs7UU?t=585 This was with the armour disruption prep completed. It was our first go at the heist, so I'd assumed it would be mission critical like Duggan's. Edited January 10, 2021 by Jimbatron Cutter De Blanc, Rotorhead359 and Taterman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said: Seems that if you kill the red skull guy it instantly breaks your stealth? No, definitely not. As frustrating as I sometimes find the stealth in this heist, I have to admit that this game is very forgiving when you do something that might break stealth. I don't know the exact time, but once a guard is alerted to your presence, if say you miss a head shot or there are two guards you have to kill one at a time, you actually have what feels like about two seconds to get kill anyone who has seen, bumped into you, or you shot and they're not yet dead. As for the Juggernauts, use the more powerful weapon on him. If you are using Aggressor, then use the Combat Shot Gun, for the Marksman, use the Assault Rifle, etc.. Make sure you get him from behind or if you end up in his cone of vision, deal with him very quickly. Make sure you get a headshot if you can. If you shoot him in the body with a shotty, say, he will go down, but not be dead. So if you missed the headshot and he is on the ground, then unload as many rounds into him as you can as fast as you can. Also, make sure you don't shoot a guard who has a camera facing right at him with the guard in its cone of vision. Unlike the Casino Heist, though, if a camera turns around and a dead body is in its cone of vision, it won't see the corpse. But you can't shoot a guard while a camera is facing him. One more thing, you probably already know this, but even if there are white cameras, they will still sound the alert if you have a weapon out. To be honest, this makes the Guard Uniforms + Supply Truck entry more annoying than its worth. Because trying to remember to put away my weapon just so I can pass through the cone of vision of a white camera undetected is just obnoxious. I basically just treat all cameras as if they are red, just so I don't have to remember to sheath my stupid weapon. lol Cutter De Blanc and Rotorhead359 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) I mustve messed something else up then, I had been killing everybody else stealthily using the military rifle with no problems, but then I killed the juggernaut and everybody lost their sh*t like a second later. I ended up dying, then fleeing the island, then realizing I had left the diamond on the island after I died. I didnt go back for it and decided to fail the heist instead I'm a bit of a perfectionist Edited January 10, 2021 by Cutter De Blanc NULL AND VOID and Rotorhead359 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taterman Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Thanks so much guys! Great tips. 7 hours ago, SummerFreeze said: You were probably at the location that requires two players to loot. They have a door without a padlock. There is a switch to the side that needs to held for the door to stay open. One of these is at the North Dock, and one on the Main Dock. You can't do anything with these if you're playing solo. I did have the cutting torch and the loot was in a shack with chain-link over the front of it. I looked just like another shack I first looted solo. Hmmm. Also, I used the marksman weapon load-out and tried at night. Not sure if it was a good choice. Jimbatron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Oh, one more thing, @Cutter De Blanc. I forgot to mention, if you don't know it already, always spent the $5K on the Suppressors. They will really help with your stealth. Rotorhead359 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, ChiroVette said: Oh, one more thing, @Cutter De Blanc. I forgot to mention, if you don't know it already, always spent the $5K on the Suppressors. They will really help with your stealth. Oh yeah for sure, and 5k aint nothin for peace of mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbatron Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Taterman said: I did have the cutting torch and the loot was in a shack with chain-link over the front of it. I looked just like another shack I first looted solo. Hmmm. Also, I used the marksman weapon load-out and tried at night. Not sure if it was a good choice. There are two huts outside the compound that have a door operated by a button that must be held down (otherwise the door instantly closes) - one at the North Docks, and one at the main Docks. If you look closely on your scope out you can see the difference because they aren't a gate with a padlock in the middle. They open like a garage door. These can only be accessed using two players. All the other loot outside the compound can be accessed solo. The weapon choice and night/day time I think doesn't matter too much, it's down to personal preference. If I plan to make my way to the compound without a disguise I might go for the crackshot loadout because the sniper is helpful to pick off tower guards. But if you are using a disguise or have a short route to the compound it really doesn't matter. Similarly, there's a trade off between night and day. Night time the guards will have a slightly shorter field of vision I think, but in day time I find I can see a bit better what is going on myself! I certainly wouldn't restart to switch from the marksman loadout. Taterman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taterman Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Anyone know how to use the rebreather on Xbox 1? I have 20 of them but didn't see an option in the interactive menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 It's Left on the D-Pad on PS4, @Taterman, so I would assume its the same on the XBOne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taterman Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, ChiroVette said: It's Left on the D-Pad on PS4, @Taterman, so I would assume its the same on the XBOne. I tried that but it just turned the nightvision on and off. I picked the googles in the set-up menu when I launched the heist. Edit: Also, the first try, when I broke cover I had to shoot my way from the airstrip all the way to the drainage tunnel. I cut my way in and couldn't get the rebreather to work. If you break cover early on, is it a waste of time to keep going? Edited January 10, 2021 by Taterman addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabhabfan1 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) The 1rst time i did the heist, it took me about 20-25 tries. Then outside the compound, i set the alarm off so i had to escape with that. Dont know how i did it but i did. I almost threw my controller a few times, but its alive. I was so frustrated, but watched a few yt vids and since then, ive made 20 mil from it. I take my time, dont worry about elite and get thru it. Also, ive started doing secondary loot first and then go to the compound....i find that easier. Edited January 10, 2021 by fabhabfan1 Rotorhead359 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbatron Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Taterman said: I tried that but it just turned the nightvision on and off. I picked the googles in the set-up menu when I launched the heist. Edit: Also, the first try, when I broke cover I had to shoot my way from the airstrip all the way to the drainage tunnel. I cut my way in and couldn't get the rebreather to work. If you break cover early on, is it a waste of time to keep going? If you want to go in via the drainage tunnel, do the Kosatka prep to enter using the submarine. You'll then go straight through it with scuba gear, so you won't have to worry about running out of oxygen. Otherwise, I'd suggest you either go in via the side door (kill guards outside the compound until one drops the code), the main gate (if you've found the supply truck) or over the wall if you've got a grappling hook. If you're already on land there's not much benefit to going back in water to go through the drainage tunnel. If you haven't done that prep yet, main tip: you'll have to infiltrate another submarine, but it has air support that will shred you quick. So fast travel your own sub near to its' location, then drive it manually right up close underwater. You can then use your sub's scuba gear to swim to theirs without ever having to surface and getting hit by their helicopters. For a solo player, I would recommend maintaining stealth and restarting if you break cover - unless you're a confident shooter you can get quickly overwhelmed. Also, once inside the compound the guy with the minigun will very actively hunt you down if the alarm is going off. If you haven't done the armour disruption prep, that can be a bit of a problem. Once you've got the primary target and escaped the compound it matters less though, just leg it. Edited January 10, 2021 by Jimbatron Rotorhead359 and Taterman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Dragon96 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Taterman said: I tried that but it just turned the nightvision on and off. I picked the googles in the set-up menu when I launched the heist Yeah if you have nightvision equiped the rebreather will not be useable because they are using the same equipment slot. ChiroVette and Taterman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taterman Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Thanks again my scooter brothers. I'm gonna give it another try in a few. If I break cover and try to flee the island when I'm done, do I have to leave by the chosen exit point or can I just take off anywhere quickly however I can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Taterman said: Thanks again my scooter brothers. I'm gonna give it another try in a few. If I break cover and try to flee the island when I'm done, do I have to leave by the chosen exit point or can I just take off anywhere quickly however I can? You can leave any way you can... swim, fly, boat... whatever. As long as you "Escape Cayo Perico". Rotorhead359, Taterman and Nefarious_Poundcake 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious_Poundcake Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Taterman said: If I break cover and try to flee the island when I'm done, do I have to leave by the chosen exit point or can I just take off anywhere quickly however I can? You can leave any way you want. ^^^^ YES! Finally. I’ve been 🥷 Edited January 11, 2021 by Nefarious_Poundcake Rotorhead359, Taterman and Gaffa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said: Yeah if you have nightvision equiped the rebreather will not be useable because they are using the same equipment slot. Wow I had no idea. You learn something new every day, I guess. Out of curiosity, why do people have night vision for this heist? I am guessing it's not very important and one should probably remove it from their inventory when going into a Finale for Cayo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Dragon96 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 hours ago, ChiroVette said: Wow I had no idea. You learn something new every day, I guess. Out of curiosity, why do people have night vision for this heist? I am guessing it's not very important and one should probably remove it from their inventory when going into a Finale for Cayo? Well its part of some of the outfits you can choose and as far as I am aware you can not unequip it during the heist. ChiroVette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taterman Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 44 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said: Well its part of some of the outfits you can choose and as far as I am aware you can not unequip it during the heist. Yeah, I found that out the hard way. I picked it in the heist set-up screen because I tried going in at night. Anyways, thanks for all the help everyone. I tried again tonight a couple times and just can't get it. Not even sure how I broke cover the first time. Just too frustrating, and I'm probably too old and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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