Would You Pay For Private Sessions?

[Buddy Hightower]

On 12/20/2020 at 3:00 AM, roggek said:

remember that we paid for the story mode

not the case anymore, rdo is a separate stand-alone product

[DentureDynamite]

4 hours ago, StyxTx said:

They've changed the lobby merging again so that if you leave the area you were in when you logged in you stay on the same server and most of those people are still in that original area. I know it's a pain and most don't want to bother but if you're going to be in an area for awhile you can go to change appearance and come back out and your lobby will now be full of people in your area.

 

Just throwing that out there for people who may not know.

And FWIW, I was running into serious PS4 stutter issues (as in frequent frame-freeze) last night when the player session was 15.

 

(This was just to try and level up my PS4 character to a decent level and finish Outlaw Pass 4; am still playing my main PC character as well.)

[IamCourtney]

5 hours ago, StyxTx said:

They've changed the lobby merging again so that if you leave the area you were in when you logged in you stay on the same server and most of those people are still in that original area. I know it's a pain and most don't want to bother but if you're going to be in an area for awhile you can go to change appearance and come back out and your lobby will now be full of people in your area.

 

Just throwing that out there for people who may not know.

I have an irrational fear of the change appearance feature. I've grown very attached to Bernadette and the thought of somehow accidentally making some irreversible change freaks me out. I've even thought of going in to make a note of all the settings in case some appearance reset glitch ever strikes but I'm too scared.

[StyxTx]

50 minutes ago, IamCourtney said:

I have an irrational fear of the change appearance feature. I've grown very attached to Bernadette and the thought of somehow accidentally making some irreversible change freaks me out. I've even thought of going in to make a note of all the settings in case some appearance reset glitch ever strikes but I'm too scared.

Hm. I just go in and hit the B button to go right back out. I suppose a sudden "glitch" is possible at some point, especially if R* figures out some people use it to populate a server than fast travel to the other side to get away from the players. Not saying I would ever think of doing such a thing........

Edited December 21, 2020 by StyxTx

[djb204]

It’s all really simple......

 

Rockstar has a 0% interest in offering players private sessions, and a 100% interest in obtaining our money. So the way I see it is give something to gain something. If this renting servers option is enough incentive for Rockstar to make it happen, then I would pay to rent private sessions/servers. I mean why not? The chances of Rockstar ever just giving us private sessions for RDO is next to none. If Rockstar had ANY intention on allowing us to play in private sessions it would have been an option at launch.

Edited December 21, 2020 by djb204

[kcole4001]

It truly is sad that players who want populated sessions have trouble getting them, while players who don't often can't have their preference either.

 

Another reason to not pay for private/invite sessions is that they know the game works so much better on real, actual dedicated servers, yet won't fork out the time and money to make it so.

 

You know what would encourage people to pay for things they want and buy gold?

Actually delivering that supposed "unparaleled game experience" that bozo strauss brags about.

[aaronBLUEeyes]

No, I did a private server for a year in DayZ which cost about $250USD and even tho we had a group of players using the server — it got boring with no threat of PvP.

[Lonely-Martin]

4 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

It truly is sad that players who want populated sessions have trouble getting them, while players who don't often can't have their preference either.

 

Another reason to not pay for private/invite sessions is that they know the game works so much better on real, actual dedicated servers, yet won't fork out the time and money to make it so.

 

You know what would encourage people to pay for things they want and buy gold?

Actually delivering that supposed "unparaleled game experience" that bozo strauss brags about.

 

That and we know they have them made already as back up plans. I ain't paying for something they've already announced is the plan B.

 

1 hour ago, aaronBLUEeyes said:

No, I did a private server for a year in DayZ which cost about $250USD and even tho we had a group of players using the server — it got boring with no threat of PvP.

 

And if it worked out at that much a year to do so, that would be an insult indeed. Wow, 250 bucks! Blimey.

[Bi9Daddy68]

You sound like you represent R*?

[FuturePastNow]

Pay? I already paid $60 for the game.

[BulletFly]

Negative.

[kcole4001]

35 minutes ago, FuturePastNow said:

Pay? I already paid $60 for the game.

Exactly!

I really don't approve of this trend towards baking in recurrent spending to cover the higher costs of making games, just charge more up front, if it's worth it we'll pay.

If it's not worth it devs should be ashamed of ripping people off constantly with weak product and shoddy customer support.

Apparently the marketing is working very well, the buying public puts up with plate loads of steaming sh*t and then defends it.

They shouldn't be allowed to get away with this scam.

 

It all started with skimming content off the top to sell later as paid dlc.

And people bought into this bullsh*t.

Now there's lootboxes and pay to win mtx everywhere.

 

Like the recording industry it will likely all fall apart eventually and they'll whine that it's the fault of the consumers.

[Dest45]

You already can pay for private sessions.

[djb204]

8 hours ago, aaronBLUEeyes said:

No, I did a private server for a year in DayZ which cost about $250USD and even tho we had a group of players using the server — it got boring with no threat of PvP.

PvP threat isn't the issue for me. Hell I'm often thrown into full RDO sessions and 95% of the time there is no PvP threat. The majority of players greet others with wave and move on. The only PvP threat I've encountered as of late was from noobs who probably just purchased the RDO standalone version, and they in all honesty are far from a threat for most players who've been playing a while. Renting servers/lobbies, sessions etc is more about getting the full experience and/or a different experience (if customizable options were optional). The majority of activities in RDO don't load consistently in a packed lobby, and Trying to locate free-roam bounties, gang hideouts, ambushes, legendary animals, etc can be a tedious task.

[djb204]

6 hours ago, Bi9Daddy68 said:

You sound like you represent R*?

If I had any influence, ties, or pull at Rockstar I would push for free private sessions. Unfortunately I don't so the only thing I can do is start discussions on the matter and hope they gain enough traction to get those who are in charge of RDO to raise an eyebrow and look our way. The only way we will ever get private sessions is if there is enough threads like this, enough discussions like this, enough brain-storming on ways to make it happen. Hell it worked in Redemption1. I remember when the first Red Dead Redemption came out. The online version was straight auto-aim, everyone was constantly visible on the map, but players wanted a different experience. We voiced our concerns, ideas, wishlist, etc on sites like this, and we eventually got Hardcore Free Roam. I'm sure there are Redemption vets here who remember that. Anyway, here we are 2 years into Red Dead Online for Redemption2 and Rockstar still hasn't provided the private session and/or Hardcore Free-Roam. Maybe we haven't been loud enough? If you as a player have any desire for either of these optional modes then maybe it would be more effective to jump on board and petition along side us in our efforts instead of accusing us of being apart of the company that we are trying to get the attention of.

[StyxTx]

27 minutes ago, djb204 said:

Renting servers/lobbies, sessions etc is more about getting the full experience and/or a different experience (if customizable options were optional). The majority of activities in RDO don't load consistently in a packed lobby, and Trying to locate free-roam bounties, gang hideouts, ambushes, legendary animals, etc can be a tedious task.

That's been my biggest problem with the way things are set up right now.

4 minutes ago, djb204 said:

If I had any influence, ties, or pull at Rockstar I would push for free private sessions. Unfortunately I don't so the only thing I can do is start discussions on the matter and hope they gain enough traction to get those who are in charge of RDO to raise an eyebrow and look our way. The only way we will ever get private sessions is if there is enough threads like this, enough discussions like this, enough brain-storming on ways to make it happen. Hell it worked in Redemption1. I remember when the first Red Dead Redemption came out. The online version was straight auto-aim, everyone was constantly visible on the map, but players wanted a different experience. We voiced our concerns, ideas, wishlist, etc on sites like this, and we eventually got Hardcore Free Roam. I'm sure there are Redemption vets here who remember that. Anyway, here we are 2 years into Red Dead Online for Redemption2 and Rockstar still hasn't provided the private session and/or Hardcore Free-Roam. Maybe we haven't been loud enough? If you as a player have any desire for either of these optional modes then maybe it would be more effective to jump on board and petition along side us in our efforts instead of accusing us of being apart of the company that we are trying to get the attention of.

One of the higher ups at R* stated they did not want the player base separated. They want players to intermingle and that solo lobbies would be a last resort. Fine, but at the cost of losing so much content? It amazes me that they would go through the effort to create content then make it impossible for players to use it.

Edited December 23, 2020 by StyxTx

[djb204]

4 hours ago, Dest45 said:

You already can pay for private sessions.

Would you care to elaborate?

[kcole4001]

32 minutes ago, djb204 said:

PvP threat isn't the issue for me. Hell I'm often thrown into full RDO sessions and 95% of the time there is no PvP threat. The majority of players greet others with wave and move on. The only PvP threat I've encountered as of late was from noobs who probably just purchased the RDO standalone version, and they in all honesty are far from a threat for most players who've been playing a while. Renting servers/lobbies, sessions etc is more about getting the full experience and/or a different experience (if customizable options were optional). The majority of activities in RDO don't load consistently in a packed lobby, and Trying to locate free-roam bounties, gang hideouts, ambushes, legendary animals, etc can be a tedious task.

Yes!!!!

That is exactly the point: getting the game to spawn everything properly.

Anyone who has ever been in a solo session for any length of time knows the difference, even when they turn down the occurrence because of dailies.

Hideouts, ambushes, rescues, random shine missions out the hoop FFS, random bounties, even the dog you have to follow pops up all the time.

 

Anyone remember the hunt for a boat last year during the snow period when it was a daily to row for 1000 ft?

How many people could NOT find a boat at all without knowing specific stranger missions to get one?

I roamed around for 6 hours that day and saw ZERO boats.

The day before and the day after, there were boats everywhere again.

 

During solo sessions you don't have any trouble getting these things done.

Animals are abundant no matter what you need them for, loot is far more abundant and useful, meaning far more collectibles and treasure maps looted.

Not to mention it would keep cheaters out.

 

It's a completely different game, and greedstar knows it, as do those playing on stadia with proper dedicated servers (yeah, it's a different type of system but it works, and it apparently works well).

If they won't switch to dedicated servers, then solo/invite sessions will definitely fix these issues unless a lot of players are invited.

Edited December 23, 2020 by kcole4001

[djb204]

6 hours ago, FuturePastNow said:

Pay? I already paid $60 for the game.

Exactly. I'm all for FREE private sessions but it doesn't look like Rockstar has any intention on making that happen. Perhaps if we give them incentive to make it happen (offer our willingness to pay for such a feature) they might concider moving a head with it. I don't see Rockstar willingly giving us this option for RDO unfortunately. Rockstar seems content with the current RDO format, but if we push for change it MIGHT  be possible.

Edited December 23, 2020 by djb204

[StyxTx]

9 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

It's a completely different game, and greedstar knows it....

That's why I really feel they are the scum of the Earth by selling the online game knowing damn well so much of the content doesn't work. Oh the reviews the new players are giving. Pretty heavily positive. They have no idea just how screwed up the game is and R* is picking their pocket knowing they are screwing those people.

Edited December 23, 2020 by StyxTx

[kcole4001]

2 minutes ago, StyxTx said:

That's why I really feel they are the scum of the Earth by selling the online game knowing damn well so much of the content doesn't work. Oh the reviews the new players are giving. Pretty heavily positive. They have no idea just how screwed up the game is and R* is picking their pocket knowing they are screwing those people.

All the while bragging that they are delivering "unparalleled gameplay"...yeah, unparalleled alright, only topped by Bethesda utter bullsh*t.

And the media either is braindead enough to believe it or they are being heftily paid off.

My bet is the latter.

$60 billion buys a lot of payola.

[bevlian89]

Regarding PC "private sessions", there is a guy on YouTube that shows how to modify your original startup.meta file in the x64 folder that comes with the game, to just open in notepad and add your desired amount of characters (like a passcode) to your online game. The modified files are taken from a startup screen skip and was found by accident. Anyone else, say friends, posse members for example, with the same characters added to their startup.meta file can join you without hassle/interruption.

 

Literally been a lifesaver as a new "5 dollar player". Gamermanh if anyone was curious.