Maibatsu Manchez Scout Appreciation and Discussion Thread

[SummerFreeze]

Maibatsu Manchez Scout

 

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Price: $225,000

Status: Released
Site: Warstock Cache & Carry

Class: Motorcycles
Capacity: 1

Inspiration IRL: @crsN https://gtaforums.com/topic/966268-maibatsu-manchez-scout-appreciation-and-discussion-thread/?do=findComment&comment=1071432521

 

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Spoiler

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Broughy1322 testing videos:

 

 

Edited February 17, 2021 by SummerFreeze

[SummerFreeze]

This thing is fun!

 

It might just pop the best wheelie in the game... at a high angle, never-ending on a flat surface, and allowing a relatively large degree of steering.

 

You can wheelie into a random car in traffic and do a backflip off it: https://imgur.com/CYTeBTK

 

I managed to hit 140 mph on the piece of highway where Broughy tests top speed, but don't quote me on that. I will include his testing videos once the bike releases.

 

Not sure why this is a Manchez tho... it looks more like the Enduro, and drives more like the BF400.

Edited December 19, 2020 by SummerFreeze

[EkaSwede]

Looks good, but the 1 capacity sucks ass for the heist if you're with a friend.

 

Super good if you're solo, though.

[Bravado Buffalo]

Well since this bike has its own thread...

 

[Need For Madness Auto]

I Want To Know What Its Real Life Counterpart Is?

[Angry Akula]

the assholes at c* can't design a motorcycle if their lives depended on it

[crsN]

8 minutes ago, Need For Madness Auto said:

I Want To Know What Its Real Life Counterpart Is?

I can't tell you exactly, but it can be a combination of the following motorcycles:

HAYES M1030

 

Kawasaki KLR250

 

Armstrong MT500

 

Harley Davidson MT350

 

I tested it on the circuit on a FiveM server and it's super fun. I can't wait for this motorcycle to be released. I used it all the time in the new heist.

 

[Need For Madness Auto]

15 minutes ago, crsN said:

 

Armstrong MT500

 

 

 

I think this one possibly 

[SummerFreeze]

1 hour ago, crsN said:

I can't tell you exactly, but it can be a combination of the following motorcycles:

Thanks! I linked your comment in the OP.

[AUScowboy]

It's not the 500cc two stroke monster I've been begging for, but it'll do for now. I own a KDX and this looks a lot like it aside from being 4 stroke, definitely giving her a bright green paint job.

[éX-Driver]

8 hours ago, crsN said:

 

Armstrong MT500

 

Harley Davidson MT350

 

Technically the Armstrong and Harley are the same bike. Harley built them under license, and the only thing they changed was to give it an electric starter and disc brakes. The Scout has disc brakes, so it’s more like the Harley. 

[Need For Madness Auto]

 

[Vill3m]

Would have loved for something more vintage like most of the other vehicles found on the island, maybe even with a sidecar with a mounted machine gun as an option. 

[SummerFreeze]

3 hours ago, Vill3m said:

Would have loved for something more vintage like most of the other vehicles found on the island, maybe even with a sidecar with a mounted machine gun as an option.

Would have been nice but it probably would have also been sh*t to drive like the existing 3-wheelers in the game.

[Z_E_B_R_A_3]

I didn't expect this and i love it already ! This update was great in term of offroad content !

 

 

On 12/27/2020 at 4:33 PM, Vill3m said:

Would have loved for something more vintage like most of the other vehicles found on the island, maybe even with a sidecar with a mounted machine gun as an option. 

 

 

On 12/27/2020 at 8:12 PM, SummerFreeze said:

Would have been nice but it probably would have also been sh*t to drive like the existing 3-wheelers in the game.

 

 

They would need to come up with an all new kind of handling... Heaven would be to be able to attach and ditach the sidecar like a trailer on a truck.

That could grant us the ability to have two completely different handlings and be able to switch between them at any time we want.

A more dashy kind of ATV handling would be present when the bike would be attached to the sidecar and a normal bike handling would come back when we would pop the thing off...

And vice versa...

 

 

Now a little question to anyone who may have the possibility to play with this bike early...

 

 

As i was (like i usually do) searching for videos of the vehicles i'm interested in before buying them,

i saw that in one of the videos of customization of the bike, the guy's mod menu was taking a bit of time before showing the modification selected...

 

Which deleted for a little moment the mudguard...

 

 

Can somebody please try out to see if we can glitch out the mudguard ?

 

That would be perfection for these much needed Fury Road Rock Rider builds in my Mad Max dirt bikes garage...

 

 

 

 

All it takes is a bit of imagination and any vehicle can be everything you want it to be !

[SummerFreeze]

10 minutes ago, Z_E_B_R_A_3 said:

Can somebody please try out to see if we can glitch out the mudguard ?

I just tried it and it doesn't appear to be possible.

 

I've noticed myself that at low FPS when switching through modifications, you can temporarily see the affected piece completely removed. (Like for example the hood when cycling through hood upgrades.)

 

But what these body part removal glitches all have in common is that the part in question is defined as an "extra" in the files, and the Manchez Scout doesn't have that.

 

- - -

 

I also think it makes sense to have a front fender / mudguard on an off-road motorcycle.

Edited January 6, 2021 by SummerFreeze

[Z_E_B_R_A_3]

18 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

I just tried it and it doesn't appear to be possible.

 

I've noticed myself that at low FPS when switching through modifications, you can temporarily see the affected piece completely removed. (Like for example the hood when cycling through hood upgrades.)

 

But what these body part removal glitches all have in common is that the part in question is defined as an "extra" in the files, and the Manchez Scout doesn't have that.

 

 

Well thank you very much nonetheless for trying and thanks for the extra knowledge about the "extra" parts of certain vehicles.

 

 

21 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

I also think it makes sense to have a front fender / mudguard on an off-road motorcycle.

 

 

Indeed, i never really understood why this part was removed in Fury Road... There is probably an hidden meaning behind it or a simple practical reason that i'm not aware of...

 

Anyway it's nice to know that my Rock Riders collection will be greatly improved with this one !

 

I really appreciate the design of their costumes too. A lot of thought was put in all the little details of that movie wich makes it so simple yet rich at the same time.

 

[SummerFreeze]

6 hours ago, Z_E_B_R_A_3 said:

Indeed, i never really understood why this part was removed in Fury Road... There is probably an hidden meaning behind it or a simple practical reason that i'm not aware of...

Probably just because it is a movie and it looks cooler.

[White Shark]

NOW R* need to allow us to set our favourite bike manually so we get the riding bonus. Otherwise, new bikes feel almost pointless.

[LL Cool L]

this thang been released yet????

[SummerFreeze]

32 minutes ago, LL Cool L said:

this thang been released yet????

No, haha.

 

I'll update the OP when it is released.

[crsN]

Manchez Scout is now available. 

 

[DeadVentSeven]

front drum brake and rear disc?  wat  [edit: this is incorrect - it has a shrouded front disc]

 

also the glaring visual errors with the rear disc drive me absolutely insane every time it look at it while riding.

(the rear disc doesn't spin with the wheel, PLUS it drops downwards towards the ground, straying FAR away from the middle of the wheel every time to wheelie or even accelerate hard.

 

WTF, rockstar?

 

don't get be wrong.  this bike rides amazingly well, so far and it an absolute wheelie monster - moreso than the original manchez, even.   but jesus christ.  it hurts me to look at while in motion.

Edited January 14, 2021 by DeadVentSeven
i jumped the gun and posted incorrect information

[Max 1985]

The stock wheels can be painted? on this Manchez.

[AUScowboy]

3 hours ago, DeadVentSeven said:

front drum brake and rear disc?  wat

 

also the glaring visual errors with the rear disc drive me absolutely insane every time it look at it while riding.

(the rear disc doesn't spin with the wheel, PLUS it drops downwards towards the ground, straying FAR away from the middle of the wheel every time to wheelie or even accelerate hard.

 

WTF, rockstar?

 

don't get be wrong.  this bike rides amazingly well, so far and it an absolute wheelie monster - moreso than the original manchez, even.   but jesus christ.  it hurts me to look at while in motion.

Front is disk as well, look at it with your phone/sniper from the opposite side of the shroud. 

 

It's not the 2 stroke 500cc Sanchez Retro I've been begging for but it's something. Actually, due to the KLR influence and beveled front fender option, I can make this thing look very close to my IRL KDX. The only stuff that throws off the look is the 4 stroke pipe, ugly seat and ugly metal piping. Love the way it rides, fast for a dirt bike, excellent wheelie control which is actually kinda silly for an adventure bike.. anyways, it's a new motorcycle and that's a start. Now please, give us a brap worthy 2 stroker R*.. record a new engine note for it. If VI is set in the 80s, they probably already have a 2 stroke engine note.

[GTA-Biker]

While I would have been more happy with something like Freeway, Angel, Hellfury or NRG900,I'm glad R* finally released a proper new bike in GTA Online,all "bikes" we've been getting since 2016 were trikes, reskinned Gargoyles and Oppressors.I'll buy this bike when I renew my PS Plus subscription,I like the old school late 80s/90s dirt bike looks.

Edited January 14, 2021 by GTA-Biker

[Cutter De Blanc]

I'm torn between this or the Rat Bike

[DeadVentSeven]

35 minutes ago, AUScowboy said:

Front is disk as well, look at it with your phone/sniper from the opposite side of the shroud. 

 

confirmed!   

 

went back to it after getting a little more sleep.

 

that said, it's even worse than i thought!

 

that front disc not only doesn't spin, doesn't move up and down in relation to the wheel (in fact it's resting position is a bit off centre)  but it also DOES NOT TURN when you steer the bike.

you turn the forks, the front disc stays parallel to the rest of the bike, clipping through the shroud.

 

who the hell greenlit this mess of a bike?

 

i'm honestly probably going to sell mine because despite it's performance, i hate looking at it so much, i just can't.

 

 

[DeadVentSeven]

1 hour ago, AUScowboy said:

Now please, give us a brap worthy 2 stroker R*.. record a new engine note for it. If VI is set in the 80s, they probably already have a 2 stroke engine note.

if they released an RZ350 with the proper sound and hilariously squirrley powerband, that would be just about the best thing ever.

 

[SummerFreeze]

2 hours ago, Max 1985 said:

The stock wheels can be painted? on this Manchez.

No, they are chrome.

 

1 hour ago, DeadVentSeven said:

who the hell greenlit this mess of a bike?

 

i'm honestly probably going to sell mine because despite it's performance, i hate looking at it so much, i just can't.

I'm not sure what you mean by performance... it has bad understeer and is only fast when you wheelie. But that wheelie wow... it's ridiculous and at least from my testing gives a higher top speed than the BF400. The Scout doesn't look good, has those weird features you mention, but the carelessness seems to have expanded to the drive physics because the stunts you can do with this are crazy.

Edited January 14, 2021 by SummerFreeze