Ghoffman9 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 If for whatever reason you need to leave your submarine to do other things or even do things in its interior there is a way to have it completely protected. If you possess a Yacht activate its defense systems and park your submarine next to it so that any asshole on an Opressor or any other vehicle approaches to be an asshole and tries to blow it up will get shot out of the sky. doktorfuxx, Kerminator369, Ethereal_NYC_ and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volatollotalov Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 There doesn’t seem to be an easy way to protect it if you’re somewhere else on the map doing other things. The best you can do is position it in a place at sea that most people don’t usually visit, so hopefully it will be ignored by the broomstick kids in favor of all the sitting duck subs off Vespucci. While you’re in the sub, again the best hope you have is to place it somewhere on the map that’s away from a griefer hotspot. Then dive so you’re invisible to the jets and flying bikes, and hope for the best! Anthony145 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Leave it deep underwater. When at the Helm hold Right on the D-Pad to activate Autopilot then press Y on Xbox or Triangle on Playstation. It will remain at that depth until you deactivate Autopilot. You can then use the Submersible or exit and get another vehicle. SummerFreeze and Anthony145 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridl0k Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Air defence is a good plan but it turns off when you get a wanted level, which you do for lobbing cruise missiles at people. So use someone else's yacht IsekaiExpress, SummerFreeze, MisFit-138 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 4:40 AM, RyuNova said: Leave it deep underwater. When at the Helm hold Right on the D-Pad to activate Autopilot then press Y on Xbox or Triangle on Playstation. It will remain at that depth until you deactivate Autopilot. You can then use the Submersible or exit and get another vehicle. That can work but that locks off your helicopter. It needs to be on the surface to launch and really comes in handy for the preps since you can immediately take flight after starting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tails Prower Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 So there is no privacy settings for the sub or preventing people from access in public lobby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NULL AND VOID Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Tails Prower said: So there is no privacy settings for the sub or preventing people from access in public lobby? There is privacy settings for the helm and...and...something else. But at first glance I was unsure if hostiles could still enter the sub and be restricted to some certain areas. But no, randoms cannot jump on your sub and launch a missile if that's what your asking. Tails Prower 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 Even if the defense systems shut off, the Yacht being parked next to the sub will still act as a phycological deterrent. You might know it is off, but they do not and are not willing to get near it to find out. Tails Prower 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Ghoffman9 said: That can work but that locks off your helicopter. It needs to be on the surface to launch and really comes in handy for the preps since you can immediately take flight after starting it. Well yes, leaving it underwater would mean you cant use the Sparrow... You can't have it both ways, protected and fully operational. I suggest the Toreador for rapid transportation AND Sub Stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony145 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 As others have said go deep and put it into auto pilot. Still wont protect you from roaming subs with sonar but better than constant air attack. Leave some where well off shore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) On 12/16/2020 at 6:03 AM, Gridl0k said: Air defence is a good plan but it turns off when you get a wanted level, which you do for lobbing cruise missiles at people. I didn't know this, but honestly it makes sense to me that this is the case. I mean, what's that old saying? "If you live outside the law, you lose the protection of the law." Maybe hahaha if you're attacking other players, is it really fair to expect any in-game protections around the very vehicle you're using to attack people with? That said, I hope they do add a protection for the sub like they have with the yacht. Because I am not a griefer, and I have no intention to use either as a shield while I attack or battle other players. Edited December 18, 2020 by ChiroVette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridl0k Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 They changed Yacht Defences a while back to be "unavailable during a mission", which includes escaping the police. I think people were sitting in their hot tubs with a 5* wanted level, and rockstar can't have that. Taterman, theEwing1979, mute! and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 My strategy in action. theEwing1979, Taterman, dieseltech20 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I know it's being greedy but I would not have minded an extra seat in the bridge that controlled an AA Gun suicidal_banana 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic_Al Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Maybe in 5 or 10 years we'll be able to purchase the naval base in San Fierro and buy a new sub that can be docked safely there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsallup Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Magic_Al said: Maybe in 5 or 10 years we'll be able to purchase the naval base in San Fierro and buy a new sub that can be docked safely there. That surely will come before gta6. docpain222, Magic_Al and Ethereal_NYC_ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsekaiExpress Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Naval defenses of the Yacht can be unfortunately bypassed by Submarine Missiles and the Sparrow (not the Sea Sparrow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 If you hold the button to sink until only your periscope is out of the water press and hold Right on the D-Pad to activate Autopilot and your Sub will stay underwater but your periscope will be usable. It won't make you off the Radar but it will hide your Sub from the naked eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NULL AND VOID Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Magic_Al said: Maybe in 5 or 10 years we'll be able to purchase the naval base in San Fierro and buy a new sub that can be docked safely there. They should connect San Fierro and Los Santos for next gen? Current gen? What generation are we in anymore? LS + SF in freemode? Plus going to Cayo for a heist? Put a dick in my ass for that one. docpain222 and DeltaV20 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docpain222 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Has anyone had their sub surface when doing prep missions? I have auto pilot engaged and leave via mini sub or sub car and when I come back, she is sitting on top ready for greifers. Also, more places to travel via online would be nice. I hope, really really hope, that online becoming its own thing will mean new maps in the future alongside gta 6, when ever that comes. I picture it as online getting the new map for gta 6 (wherever it is) and we are able to travel to it and set up new businesses. Then travel between LS and wherever else through loading screens. No clue how this will work, or if it will ever happened, but that would be a best case scenario. And best case scenario don't happen often in gta online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JairoDM Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 If you move away from the yacht, the yacht's defense systems will shut down and your submarine will remain unprotected, it also does not serve as a deterrent, if they want to access your yacht, for example, by sea, they will do it, and they will be able to destroy it anyway, there is no safer method than leaving it very deep (below 140 m) and going out with the Avisa or with a diving suit, in fact, at that depth it will resist even attacks with the orbital cannon. 38 minutes ago, docpain222 said: Has anyone had their sub surface when doing prep missions? I have auto pilot engaged and leave via mini sub or sub car and when I come back, she is sitting on top ready for greifers. Also, more places to travel via online would be nice. I hope, really really hope, that online becoming its own thing will mean new maps in the future alongside gta 6, when ever that comes. I picture it as online getting the new map for gta 6 (wherever it is) and we are able to travel to it and set up new businesses. Then travel between LS and wherever else through loading screens. No clue how this will work, or if it will ever happened, but that would be a best case scenario. And best case scenario don't happen often in gta online. I don't worry about that because I do the prep missions in invite only sessions. docpain222 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaV20 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 10:59 PM, Gridl0k said: They changed Yacht Defences a while back to be "unavailable during a mission", which includes escaping the police. I think people were sitting in their hot tubs with a 5* wanted level, and rockstar can't have that. They probably changed it on Pivacy prevention Vip work aswell i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JairoDM said: If you move away from the yacht, the yacht's defense systems will shut down and your submarine will remain unprotected, it also does not serve as a deterrent, if they want to access your yacht, for example, by sea, they will do it, and they will be able to destroy it anyway, there is no safer method than leaving it very deep (below 140 m) and going out with the Avisa or with a diving suit, in fact, at that depth it will resist even attacks with the orbital cannon. I don't worry about that because I do the prep missions in invite only sessions. Most people only make the effort to destroy a submarine if its easy. Which is just doing a fly by spamming missiles and machine gun fire. If they gotta make the effort to drive a sea vehicle over there and spam the hell out of it explosives, its not such an appealing means of doing so. This is the Gta community we are talking about here, if it requires effort they won't do it. They always take the path of least resistance. Combined with the fact its owner can just immediately respawn it back in makes them even less inclined to do it this way. Griefers go for whats easy, not what is hard. I checked my Yacht's defense setting frequently and most times it remained on, even long distance and even during some missions. Edited December 22, 2020 by Ghoffman9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docpain222 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 5 hours ago, JairoDM said: If you move away from the yacht, the yacht's defense systems will shut down and your submarine will remain unprotected, it also does not serve as a deterrent, if they want to access your yacht, for example, by sea, they will do it, and they will be able to destroy it anyway, there is no safer method than leaving it very deep (below 140 m) and going out with the Avisa or with a diving suit, in fact, at that depth it will resist even attacks with the orbital cannon. I don't worry about that because I do the prep missions in invite only sessions. I use pictures solo lobbies, but wvery once in awhile I run into a stranger or two coming in to the lobby, and then they want their own lobby do they attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedinhuh Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I think they hotfixed the Submarine Guided Missiles + Yacht Air Defenses strat, because everytime I park my Submarine within the Yacht's radius(which is where the location changes from "pacific ocean" to the name of your yacht), turn on autopilot so it remains at emerged at surface level and get inside the Submarine, I can only fire a single guided missile and then I get a message that I can't use the missiles while submerged...Even though I didn't submerged the sub. When I get back on controls, the Submarine is somehow partially submerged...I get it back to surface level again, go inside and get on the missiles, only to be greeted by the same message that says I can't use the missiles, and again the sub gets partially submerged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 The problem is you do not activate the submarines autopilot on the surface. It always partially submerges the submarine making things such as launching missiles impossible. Just put it into position and do not activate autopilot. The main purpose of auto pilot is to keep your submarine submerged at the desired depth you parked it at without it floating to the surface. Pedinhuh and Gridl0k 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedinhuh Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 16 hours ago, Ghoffman9 said: The problem is you do not activate the submarines autopilot on the surface. It always partially submerges the submarine making things such as launching missiles impossible. Just put it into position and do not activate autopilot. The main purpose of auto pilot is to keep your submarine submerged at the desired depth you parked it at without it floating to the surface. Ok this is very counterintuitive but knowing R*, might as well be true. I'll try this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutduster Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Protecting the sub when you're not in it is pointless. It will respawn wherever you want with a simple interaction menu option. People can blow mine up, it's barely an inconvenience; in fact, half the time when I leave it, even for a prep mission, I immediately return it to storage and just call for it again when I want to go back. Thomas Veil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nutduster said: Protecting the sub when you're not in it is pointless. It will respawn wherever you want with a simple interaction menu option. People can blow mine up, it's barely an inconvenience; in fact, half the time when I leave it, even for a prep mission, I immediately return it to storage and just call for it again when I want to go back. Its a pain in the ass to respawn, especially if enemy players are deadset on blowing it up every time they see it. Regardless of whether you're in it or not. Many repeatedly blow up submarines with the intent of preventing you from progressing through your Cayo Perico heist preps. Secondly its humorous watching them fly in, expecting an easy target, only to get shot out of the sky. My Yacht has already claimed the lives of many griefers and they learn to give my submarine a wide berth if they know whats good for them. My most favorite is broomstick griefers since if they get blown up, they gotta pay the full 20k themselves to get their broomstick back. Edited January 19, 2021 by Ghoffman9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutduster Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Ghoffman9 said: Its a pain in the ass to respawn It's a simple interaction menu option. A few button presses. 9 hours ago, Ghoffman9 said: Many repeatedly blow up submarines with the intent of preventing you from progressing through your Cayo Perico heist preps. Spawn it by Elysian Island or even Palomino Highlands. Nobody goes to those spots and it's hardly any farther than the beach (in fact on certain preps it's closer). If you're having fun trolling the trolls, by all means don't let me stop you. I'm just saying that this is really unneeded effort. When I do keep mine spawned, it's off Elysian Island and no one bothers it there. And of course you can always prep in invite-only sessions, as well. Thomas Veil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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