djb204 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 For months prior to tier 2 Bounty Hunter DLC, we saw leaks, rumours, etc, regarding a Lawman DLC. Then Rockstar suddenly reveals the next DLC will be a Bounty Hunter expansion. What happened? Did the content of this new DLC not live up to the hype? Did they decide to delay or scrap the Lawman DLC and just release what they already created as an expansion for the Bounty Hunter role instead? In the upcoming legendary bounty ‘Carmela “La Muneca” Montez’ mission, the wanted poster informs us at the bottom to use caution, referring to the players as marshals. The unlocks in both the Outlaw Pass 4 and Bounty Hunter tier 2 were lack lustre. Was there originally supposed to be some cool Lawman content that we could unlock? Maybe this explains why what we received was hardly exciting? Maybe the original unlockables were replaced last minute once it was obvious the Lawman role wasn’t ready? I look at some of these new bounty hunter posters, and can’t help but wonder if they were designed with a Lawman perspective in mind. DentureDynamite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rez090 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, djb204 said: For months prior to tier 2 Bounty Hunter DLC, we saw leaks, rumours, etc, regarding a Lawman DLC. Then Rockstar suddenly reveals the next DLC will be a Bounty Hunter expansion. What happened? Did the content of this new DLC not live up to the hype? Did they decide to delay or scrap the Lawman DLC and just release what they already created as an expansion for the Bounty Hunter role instead? In the upcoming legendary bounty ‘Carmela “La Muneca” Montez’ mission, the wanted poster informs us at the bottom to use caution, referring to the players as marshals. The unlocks in both the Outlaw Pass 4 and Bounty Hunter tier 2 were lack lustre. Was there originally supposed to be some cool Lawman content that we could unlock? Maybe this explains why what we received was hardly exciting? Maybe the original unlockables were replaced last minute once it was obvious the Lawman role wasn’t ready? I look at some of these new bounty hunter posters, and can’t help but wonder if they were designed with a Lawman perspective in mind. How would we be lawmen if we are still wanted criminals? Buddy Hightower, IamCourtney, 4eyedcoupe and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamCourtney Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Yeah, assuming they even still care about such things, they would need to wrap up Madam LeClerk's storyline in way that clears our character's names for an official Lawman role to make any sort of sense. DentureDynamite, Rev. Gnash, Nerfgoth and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmaster234 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, IamCourtney said: Yeah, assuming they even still care about such things, they would need to wrap up Madam LeClerk's storyline in way that clears our character's names for an official Lawman role to make any sort of sense. Thats exactly why it makes more sense to be a pinkerton in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rez090 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, darkmaster234 said: Thats exactly why it makes more sense to be a pinkerton in my opinion. Except the Pinkertons would either kill us or turn us over to the Marshals. We are still WANTED CRIMINALS. That has not changed. Buddy Hightower and Rev. Gnash 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupidis Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Rez090 said: How would we be lawmen if we are still wanted criminals? Because no lawmen has ever never been criminals as well? Edit: Sorry, missed the "wanted" part. However. Pretty sure that wouldn't be a problem either. Edited December 7, 2020 by Stupidis Direwrath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4eyedcoupe Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, djb204 said: For months prior to tier 2 Bounty Hunter DLC, we saw leaks, rumours, etc, regarding a Lawman DLC. Did we though? Maybe rumors & speculation, but we didn't receive any valid leaks saying we were going to get a Lawman DLC. Anybody to have previously claimed they had leaked info that we were getting a lawman dlc in this update basically just proved they are not a leaker or trusted source Edited December 7, 2020 by 4eyedcoupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTx Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, djb204 said: For months prior to tier 2 Bounty Hunter DLC, we saw leaks, rumours, etc, regarding a Lawman DLC. Then Rockstar suddenly reveals the next DLC will be a Bounty Hunter expansion. What happened? Did the content of this new DLC not live up to the hype? Did they decide to delay or scrap the Lawman DLC and just release what they already created as an expansion for the Bounty Hunter role instead? In the upcoming legendary bounty ‘Carmela “La Muneca” Montez’ mission, the wanted poster informs us at the bottom to use caution, referring to the players as marshals. The unlocks in both the Outlaw Pass 4 and Bounty Hunter tier 2 were lack lustre. Was there originally supposed to be some cool Lawman content that we could unlock? Maybe this explains why what we received was hardly exciting? Maybe the original unlockables were replaced last minute once it was obvious the Lawman role wasn’t ready? I look at some of these new bounty hunter posters, and can’t help but wonder if they were designed with a Lawman perspective in mind. It was more than rumor. Long ago when they put out the roles R* discussed how roles would expand and they mentioned bounty hunter expanding to lawman. Not sure why people claim it was "leaked" other than as click bait. lol This was not an expansion on the role, just adding more of the same stuff that it's always been. Edited December 7, 2020 by StyxTx kcole4001, darkmaster234 and djb204 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netnow66 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I have maxed bounty hunter and, in the last 4 1/2 hours, I have run in to three bounties while I was just out "cowboying" around. Bounty hunting is not even close to being a favorite of mine but finding the bounties while out minding my business compelled me to do them. If these keep popping up, I'll probably complete them (my attitude about legendaries also) BOUNTY SPOILER---------One bounty had taken two people prisoner and had them tied up. They were all next to a smashed up stagecoach. I hogtied him, freed the two people and they ran away. Then, I noticed the back of the stagecoach gave me an option to "Break," I believe it said. I did so, the compartment opened and I was able to grab a few items, no money or gold. I did purchase that lock breaker early on so I guess that's why I was given the option(?). This is the second time I have used it (one of the board bounties has a building with a side door that gives you that option). Another bounty was on the east coast of the map, above San Denis. Once I hogtied him, a "friend" showed up, ignored his hogtied body and came straight for me. Be careful out there... Rev. Gnash, DentureDynamite, kcole4001 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DentureDynamite Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) On 12/6/2020 at 9:08 PM, Rez090 said: How would we be lawmen if we are still wanted criminals? Easily explained with R* logic. lol On 12/6/2020 at 6:28 PM, djb204 said: For months prior to tier 2 Bounty Hunter DLC, we saw leaks, rumours, etc, regarding a Lawman DLC. Then Rockstar suddenly reveals the next DLC will be a Bounty Hunter expansion. What happened? Did the content of this new DLC not live up to the hype? Did they decide to delay or scrap the Lawman DLC and just release what they already created as an expansion for the Bounty Hunter role instead? [snip] IMO, too much game play overlap between the lawman and bounty roles to make it worthwhile. Edited December 8, 2020 by DentureDynamite kcole4001 and Direwrath 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 The LeClerk storyline seems like Chapter 1 in our characters stories. Once that wrapped up she seems like she has the money and influence to get our escaped prisoner status wiped clean which would open the way for stuff like Lawman, Shopfront owner, legally purchasing homes/property. Direwrath and kcole4001 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcole4001 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 9:25 AM, StyxTx said: It was more than rumor. Long ago when they put out the roles R* discussed how roles would expand and they mentioned bounty hunter expanding to lawman. Not sure why people claim it was "leaked" other than as click bait. lol This was not an expansion on the role, just adding more of the same stuff that it's always been. Yeah, not an expansion but an extension. Expansion intimates a broadening of scope of the role rather than more of the same. Greedstar probably doesn't know the difference, but it is significant. darkmaster234, Direwrath and StyxTx 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceHeartache Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I think something that they dont know how to implement well in this hypotetic "Outlaw role" is the honor system in the game, at the moment it only work for story missions, so in our characters perspective we already robbed a train and one of the best banks in the country in Saint Denis ( Dutch plans sucks lol) so it kinda makes sense if some outlaw out there see potential in us and want us in his gang, and after that is all about being their minion for a time, or giving us the option to form an outlaw gang on their own. (And i can see this as part as an expansion in the role lol so well... more time to wait i guess) But for honorable players? Yeah, they could just add the option and "be an outlaw, no matter of your choices in the game role because here is and the role is 21 gold bars so go ahead." The thing is it feels kinda meh, maybe they want to implement something in the LeClerk role that could give a reason for an honorable player to go into the Outlaw path, or maybe they lock the role only if you have a bad honor character, and that could be good for me but i can see people complain about that so i don't know i think they are still trying to figure how to put that role and work with the game StyxTx, Direwrath and Rev. Gnash 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamCourtney Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I don't know how anybody who isn't shooting cops and/or other players 24/7 can be dishonourable, every little advantageous action gives positive honour. kcole4001, StyxTx and Direwrath 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTx Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 38 minutes ago, IamCourtney said: I don't know how anybody who isn't shooting cops and/or other players 24/7 can be dishonourable, every little advantageous action gives positive honour. Like feeding or brushing your horse. Direwrath and kcole4001 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direwrath Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, IamCourtney said: I don't know how anybody who isn't shooting cops and/or other players 24/7 can be dishonourable, every little advantageous action gives positive honour. Being continually dishonorable in this game is probably the hardest challenge that there is. I like to keep my bounty up and you would think that maybe once it gets to a certain point our honor level would not go up so quickly. But we can run around with a high level bounty and still be max honor? 49 minutes ago, StyxTx said: Like feeding or brushing your horse. I mean, outlaws can have the wish to feed and clean their horses too? Look at Gene "Beau" Finley, that guy is an outlaw but I'll be his horse is the prettiest thing out there. Only the finest for such a dandy man and all. kcole4001 and StyxTx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rez090 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 9 hours ago, netnow66 said: I did purchase that lock breaker early on so I guess that's why I was given the option(?). This is the second time I have used it (one of the board bounties has a building with a side door that gives you that option). Where is this located? I've not had a single time to use the lock breaker yet, almost like it has no actual use, just something to waste money on. netnow66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DentureDynamite Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, IamCourtney said: I don't know how anybody who isn't shooting cops and/or other players 24/7 can be dishonourable, every little advantageous action gives positive honour. As someone who is virtually dishonorable 24/7--while leaving other players alone--it's very simple: Kill NPCs every once in a while... Spoiler Shouldn't be a problem; these days, it seems like every other NPC mouths off to me. Edited December 9, 2020 by DentureDynamite IamCourtney, StyxTx and Rev. Gnash 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DentureDynamite Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Rez090 said: Where is this located? I've not had a single time to use the lock breaker yet, almost like it has no actual use, just something to waste money on. Some places have "Break lock" and some have "Smash" lock: You can find a "Smash lock" option on the back of certain wagons (which you can also shoot off); and if Ft. Wallace happens to be open (presumably fails to close after some kind of mission), there's a small armory inside, with "Break lock" and "Kick" options for the door: Spoiler Edited December 9, 2020 by DentureDynamite kcole4001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netnow66 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 13 hours ago, Rez090 said: Where is this located? I've not had a single time to use the lock breaker yet, almost like it has no actual use, just something to waste money on. If I remember correctly, that bounty with the guy who likes being famous and hires guys to ride with him takes place at a mansion. On the side of the house, one of the doors gives the option to break lock and my character started picking the lock to open it. The other is one of those free roam bounties (they show on the map with their own special icon now) with a broken down stagecoach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodoff Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 In regard to OP's question: No, rumors and speculations don't always turn out, neither did the supposed lawman role. If it's not R' official, don't ever get your hopes up. 4eyedcoupe, Rev. Gnash and darkmaster234 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuturePastNow Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 They're not going to make a "lawman" role, and they never were. darkmaster234 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTx Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 11:34 AM, sodoff said: In regard to OP's question: No, rumors and speculations don't always turn out, neither did the supposed lawman role. If it's not R' official, don't ever get your hopes up. On the other hand, if something is R* official, don't get your hopes up that it won't break the game more than it already is. kcole4001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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