Send your vehicle modification request to Rockstar - together we have the power

[el carlitos]

Hello everyone,

 

as many of you, I like cars in GTA and I am into the car community of GTA Online.

As we know R* made a lot of unlogic decision when it comes to vehicle and modifcations.

 

I am talking about simple modifications that are quite stupid to limit just to few cars. Like interior color opions and suspension (stance) option. I am sick of shooting my car just to get a good wheel fitment. This should be an option. Why these options are limited to little number of cars, they should be available to quite all vehicle.

 

To change this I am asking for your help. We have the power to change it.

I am asking you to send a request to R* feedback page. The link:

https://www.rockstargames.com/GTAOnline/de/feedback?step=01396082

Choose vehicle - vehicle modification and send them a massage with your request.

Example:

 

"Dear Rocktar-Team,

please add following options to all cars. There is no reasson to limit these options to little few number of cars.

- interior color option

- low (stance) suspension option

- Interior option like stearing wheels and seats

- Motor block options (some cars do have low resolution engine and that´s a no go, latest with the enhanced version)

Additional request regarding vehicle modifications:

- Wheel size option

 

Thank you and best regards,

Your SC name"

 

Just bomb them with your feedback. Feel free to add your wishes, but please limit this thread with vehicle modifications.

Please don´t add vehicle wishlist to this thread.

Edited December 3, 2020 by el carlitos

[éX-Driver]

Unless it affects the bottom line, they don’t care how much you whinge to them. They’re not gonna do anything unless it makes them money. The “rah rah 99%” stuff don’t work unless you back it up with force. 

[el carlitos]

2 hours ago, éX-Driver said:

Unless it affects the bottom line, they don’t care how much you whinge to them. They’re not gonna do anything unless it makes them money. The “rah rah 99%” stuff don’t work unless you back it up with force. 

I don´t think so.

Rockstar is actually listening to the feedback. People asked for Biker stuff, we got Biker DLC. People whined for Yachts, we got Yachts. One person whined for Hunter Helicopter, we got Hunter. People whined for Mad Max style, we got Arena Series with Mad Max style. Quite a lot of requests got realized and you can´t deny that.

Did they make money with that, sure. But with new additional vehicle customisation it would be the same case.

 

So send your requests to R*.

Yes, we (GTA car community) can

[OscarMikeDetroit]

19 minutes ago, el carlitos said:

I don´t think so.

Rockstar is actually listening to the feedback. People asked for Biker stuff, we got Biker DLC. People whined for Yachts, we got Yachts. One person whined for Hunter Helicopter, we got Hunter. People whined for Mad Max style, we got Arena Series with Mad Max style. Quite a lot of requests got realized and you can´t deny that.

Did they make money with that, sure. But with new additional vehicle customisation it would be the same case.

 

So send your requests to R*.

Yes, we (GTA car community) can

Dude ive been submitting for years to just allow bennys wheels as an option to all cars... Its super simple... Its already coded in the game, you just have to add it to the coding of the vehicle to allow wheels to be put on. If they can add liveries to cars we dont even care about anymore they can easily add wheels to the cars considering bennys is a dead spot on the game... Good luck. I gave up on submitting any request to cock*

[éX-Driver]

34 minutes ago, el carlitos said:

I don´t think so.

Rockstar is actually listening to the feedback. People asked for Biker stuff, we got Biker DLC. People whined for Yachts, we got Yachts. One person whined for Hunter Helicopter, we got Hunter. People whined for Mad Max style, we got Arena Series with Mad Max style. Quite a lot of requests got realized and you can´t deny that.

Did they make money with that, sure. But with new additional vehicle customisation it would be the same case.

 

So send your requests to R*.

Yes, we (GTA car community) can

That was also 2015-2016. R* have shifted away from community-requested goodies in favour of blatant unashamed monetisation.

[Hegedus.Roberto]

Sorry, but your requests, with upgrading all 500 cars models of the game with moddable engineblocks, and interior colors is sadly just not a realistic one. It's a good request for GTA 6, but you basically asking them to turn every car into Benny's versions. If doing that to 4-5 cars takes them 7-8 months, then you can't expect them to go remodel every single car that's already in the game.

 

I've sent dozens of suggestions to them.

Some of them were made like "pls give us colored headlight options" and "pls make a Benny's version of the Vapid Peyote"

But waaaay more were never addressed like "pls give us more window color tints" and "pls make a Benny's version of the Obey 9F"

One thing that definitely showed that we have power as a community is when hundreds of players begged them to hold back and fix the Jester Classic which was originally added to the game in Southern San Andreas Super Sport Series DLC in March, but was only released once fixed in the After Hours DLC in July. It does make me hopeful, that R* listens but only if there are legit arguments, and a good consistent plan that we can get behind.
Here was the imgur post that I believe saved the Jester Classic:

https://imgur.com/a/sxxy0vQ

 

So the community has power, but the request has to be reasonable. If making liveries and bodykits to a car like the Jester classic took several months, you can't ask them to redo all other cars... not before 2040.

[el carlitos]

13 minutes ago, Hegedus.Roberto said:

Sorry, but your requests, with upgrading all 500 cars models of the game with moddable engineblocks, and interior colors is sadly just not a realistic one. It's a good request for GTA 6, but you basically asking them to turn every car into Benny's versions. If doing that to 4-5 cars takes them 7-8 months, then you can't expect them to go remodel every single car that's already in the game.

 

I've sent dozens of suggestions to them.

Some of them were made like "pls give us colored headlight options" and "pls make a Benny's version of the Vapid Peyote"

But waaaay more were never addressed like "pls give us more window color tints" and "pls make a Benny's version of the Obey 9F"

One thing that definitely showed that we have power as a community is when hundreds of players begged them to hold back and fix the Jester Classic which was originally added to the game in Southern San Andreas Super Sport Series DLC in March, but was only released once fixed in the After Hours DLC in July. It does make me hopeful, that R* listens but only if there are legit arguments, and a good consistent plan that we can get behind.
Here was the imgur post that I believe saved the Jester Classic:

https://imgur.com/a/sxxy0vQ

 

So the community has power, but the request has to be reasonable. If making liveries and bodykits to a car like the Jester classic took several months, you can't ask them to redo all other cars... not before 2040.

Maybe you are right.

Still I have to try.

I am not sure if it it takes much time to add detailed engine blocks, which already is in game and replace these at existing models. Same for other stuff. 

Yes, they let us wait months for a car, but I think that has other reasons, not because they are working that long on it.

 

So if we make them notice our request there is hope imo.

[Pedinhuh]

Eh, I signed the petition for the removal of the advanced handling flags that makes the SSASSS DLC cars drive slower and handle badly and make the Arena War DLC vehicles bounce like they had no suspension.

 

Me and over 70000 other players did.

 

And the only thing we got was the cars bouncing less.

 

So I won't keep my Hope's up that this will ever work on the way the petition is expecting it.

Edited December 3, 2020 by Pedinhuh

[OscarMikeDetroit]

8 minutes ago, el carlitos said:

Maybe you are right.

Still I have to try.

I am not sure if it it takes much time to add detailed engine blocks, which already is in game and replace these at existing models. Same for other stuff. 

Yes, they let us wait months for a car, but I think that has other reasons, not because they are working that long on it.

 

So if we make them notice our request there is hope imo.

I'm going to be blunt with you here, but I honestly dont think you know how coding works and 3D development, this sounds like a super small just pop this into place and roll onto the next one deal but its not easy. Its a waste of time for them to do. There not worried about making the game more customizable for the player sake, there thinking about how they can make the company more money by getting more players to play the game. Hence the island, yes its a huge deal and it takes a sh*t ton of time to create... But think of the revenue they will receive from it and the amount of new players and returning players this will bring because its diverse for everyone. You have to stand at the business end of Rockstar and figure out what makes sense and what doesn't. My request to allow Benny's wheels on all cars isn't an easy fix to the game but because its already coded in the game and we know it already works because of glitches it could possibly be an easy thing to add at Los Santos Customs but its never going to happen because it isn't a profitable add on to the game. They discovered this once they added kits and liveries to existing cars, it was cool at first then died fast right after and they never did it again because it didn't cause near as much affect that they were looking for.

[CrashCarTV]

More customization for the rancher xl. I love the older Chevy suburbans.

[Hegedus.Roberto]

1 hour ago, el carlitos said:

Yes, they let us wait months for a car, but I think that has other reasons, not because they are working that long on it.

Like Oscar said, your idea of how this would be done is very far from reality.
There are things that can be done by altering a line of code, like flipping a switch. And the are things that need extensive work, 3D sculpting and texturing.

The engine model of each car is built into its model, it's not something that can be exchanged without changing the model. And changing the model means that the players will need to redownload it, meaning that every player would need to redownload atleast 60 GB-s of data for all cars to get interior colors (a thing many players aren't really caring about because we drive in 3rd person 90% of the time). Do you see how the work recources needed to do the task that you wan't don't have a good enough payoff?

The a lot of people in the community has been crying for Rockstar to rework the car-balance system (I have seen posts on reddit, on twitter, I made a topic about it myself:

Creating a few more car classes and moving a few cars to a proper class so they are balanced would only take coding, not modeling, it would barely be a few Megabytes to update and it would have a ton on payoff:
+Now we have 6 classes people like to race in -Super, -Sports, -Muscle, -Off-Road, -Compacts, -Sport Classics. Each class has over 30 cars, but since nearly in all of these classes there are 1 or 2 cars that are unbeatable, anyone wanting to win just needs those 4 cars. > But with a new bigger class system, where each class only has 10 cars, people would need to be more ready to race in other classes, which is good for Rockstar since people would buy and upgrade more cars.
+A better more balance racing would give reason for people to actually play races. I haven't played races in ages since its booring and unbalanced. If more people would be racing, thats more time spent playing the game, more people playing the game means more money for R*

 

But despite that we, the community, have already done the math for R*, already created balanced car classes for them, and despite how profitable and good it would be for them, they still don't take the minimum effort to implement it into the game.
You really think that they will do the hard work of remodeling every single car when there isn't even any guaranteed pay off? Be more realistic man, like

37 minutes ago, CrashCarTV said:

More customization for the rancher xl. I love the older Chevy suburbans.

Ask a Benny's version for 1 car. That is a realistic wish that they could include if enough people ask for it.
Enough people asked for the Peyote Custom. I can only hope that enough people are asking for the Sentinel Retro Custom. I know I do

Edited December 3, 2020 by Hegedus.Roberto

[Arrows to Athens]

I swear we've been doing this for years. It just falls on deaf ears.

[HamwithCheese]

5 hours ago, el carlitos said:

Rockstar is actually listening to the feedback. People asked for Biker stuff, we got Biker DLC. People whined for Yachts, we got Yachts. One person whined for Hunter Helicopter, we got Hunter. People whined for Mad Max style, we got Arena Series with Mad Max style. Quite a lot of requests got realized and you can´t deny that.

Did they make money with that, sure. But with new additional vehicle customisation it would be the same case.

All these things you listed are attached to blatant monetization tactics.

 

Bike clubs: attached to clubhouses and Warehouse

Mad Max warrior cars: attached to a pointless garage and unlock system

Yachts: Are worth on average 40 bucks or more in cards

Hunter: Can only be owned and customized with a useless hangar

 

So yes, they do listen but only when it actually benefits them. 

[éX-Driver]

3 hours ago, Hegedus.Roberto said:

...Here was the imgur post that I believe saved the Jester Classic:

https://imgur.com/a/sxxy0vQ

 

“Saved” is a strong word. It’s still f*ck ugly and has woeful performance. It’s just now a 4/10 instead of a 2/10.

[Hegedus.Roberto]

6 minutes ago, éX-Driver said:

“Saved” is a strong word. It’s still f*ck ugly and has woeful performance. It’s just now a 4/10 instead of a 2/10.

Based on just the looks I give the Jester Classic a 7/10, they could've tried to make it better but they probably were not willing to take the risk seeing how Toyota went completely against allowing games to use their likeliness.

It's performance is really sh*t though, but that is the fault of the Advanced Handling flags. People have been asking those to be removed from the game entirely too, the Jester Classic would have a pace near the regular Elegy and Paragon R without them.

[éX-Driver]

52 minutes ago, Hegedus.Roberto said:

Based on just the looks I give the Jester Classic a 7/10, they could've tried to make it better but they probably were not willing to take the risk seeing how Toyota went completely against allowing games to use their likeliness.

It's performance is really sh*t though, but that is the fault of the Advanced Handling flags. People have been asking those to be removed from the game entirely too, the Jester Classic would have a pace near the regular Elegy and Paragon R without them.

The sculpt is still very 360/PS3, even lower quality than a lot of GTA4 cars. Low poly, a lot of 2D textures, scaling is wrong, fit and finish is wrong. It’s not that they were trying to duck copyright, it’s that the person tasked with making it couldn’t care less about Supras. This is the game that has stuff like the Futo which is a 95% accurate replica of a zenki Levin 2 door, and the Rebel which is a near-perfect late 70s Hilux. Toyota being dodgy about copyright isn’t the issue. 
Even without the flags, the handling would still be off. The JZA80 is a big heavy car with a big heavy sledgehammer of an I6 motivating it. The JC instead feels like it weighs nothing and goes [and sounds] as if it has a dinky I4 under the bonnet. They’d need to increase the weight and the power and preferably give it the Elegy RC’s exhaust note for it to be closer to reality. Brake not too well, slide around a lot in corners, but still go like a scalded weasel in a straight line.