Get Red Dead Online as a Standalone Game on December 1st + Bounty Hunter Expansion Next Week

[Leftover Pizza]

At this rate of updates, you might as well drop the game and come back 2-3 years later. Perhaps the 2-3 years added content will then be enough to keep you busy for 2 weeks. 
 

Waiting for their "biggest update in the history of all games" sales pitch. The naturalist was supposed to be a Massive update and there was a LOT more to come at the end of the year. Well f*ck, 10 levels of the sh*tty BH role and a new OP. 
 

I wasn't wrong to drop this game yet again. Kudos to those who are still waiting for 'the good sh*t to happen', but this game is dead and done with. 
 

So long!

[Commander S]

...see, as much as I get that it's a bit disappointing for anyone who expected more than meeting the bare-minimum for what qualifies as an 'existing role expansion' (i.e., literally just more of the same tacked on, instead of an evolution of the role), there's a benefit to them doing it like this: if you're fine with the overall implementation of Bounty Hunter stuff in RDO, then nothing changes or gets made worse here.

 

What I mean is, Bounty Hunter as-is has some flexibility for players - you're a hired gun, and so it's up to you whether you're effectively a wannabe lawman, or a ruthless vigilante (mainly down to which bounties you choose to do, and whether you bring them in dead or alive). Imagine the expansion was straight-up 'Deputy', and existing bounty hunters got automatically upgraded - fine if you're more honourable, but probably not for anyone who plays as a full-on outlaw.

 

So if nothing else, it probably won't mess anything up, at least... One thing I do hope to see, though, is a difficulty toggle for Legendary Bounties - there's a point where some of them stop being fun at 4-5 stars (insta-spawning alligators with no radar blips is just a dick move, R*... ), and right now, having them locked at 5 stars just makes them not worth the bother. And it'd be a pretty boneheaded move on R*'s part if they simply added a bunch more, only to have a finite number of replays before the new ones also become cheap and unenjoyable...

[Krommer]

12 hours ago, Jason said:

 

Rockstar m8, the f*ck are you doing?

 

I think trying to make money, which I don't get because it is so easy to make $ and gold in RDO so most people never buy gold in their store.

 

Or just trying to make the game look more successful, for more shareholder value?

 

Or if a million people buy it at $4.99, 1 million x $4.99 in basically free money! So it is pretty smart, really.

 

Might be bad for us, though:

 

Always more crowded lobbies, with a lot more "rabble rousing" new players who are more apt

to think of it as "fornite for cowboys!"

 

Ah, so more to the bounty hunter role WAS "more action." I was hoping it was something without action,

like the Naturalist.

 

"Bounty Hunter Role is enhanced with new criminals to track down and Prestigious level equipment and skills to unlock across 10 more Bounty Hunter ranks.

There will also be new Legendary Bounties and a 100 Rank Outlaw Pass."

 

Oh well, more to do; So that is kind of good, I suppose?

 

"We heard you wanted rancher/bronc buster-horse seller/properties to buy, so we added more

to the underused/not well liked bounty role instead!"

 

 

6 hours ago, blackwolfred said:

Players-  We want housing, heists, private lobbies.

 

 

R*- Have ten more levels of Bounty Hunter.

 

Yes, exactly 

 

 

Edited November 25, 2020 by Krommer

[Direwrath]

2 hours ago, darkmaster234 said:

Fellow horse lover !!! hehehe.. the mention to mane and tail styles additions came from the leak whose reliability isnt certain still, ar least not at 100%. but if they were true,  i would love that they added the hogged and button styles which i think they wont, because they belong to a fancy oriented update in my opinion... i wish they did though, both- specially the hogged, look dazzling in horses with beautiful and unique face shapes like the kladruber, akhal teke and arabian, because it highlights even more the gracefulness of their necks.

 

About the content i wholeheartedly agree with you, this content should be releasead every two months... specially considering they seem  like retreads  and literal extensions, not actual deepenings to the roles which was  what we needed.

Yep that's me. 

Well hopefully the leakers are right on track, and we do get some more options for our horses. I'd love a diamond weave for my Andalusian, that look would really bring out his crest and accentuate his "big" head. And I was thinking the exact thing, my black kladruber, Dragula would look perfect with a hog-braided mane. But they're probably teasing us horse people with those leaks as I can't see where different mane and tail styles would mean much to the average RDR player. That and you're right, they may seem a little too fancy for your typical outlaw. My guy has an excuse for having some of his horses manes tended to like that, his kid sister used to braid his horse's mane all of the time and he'd yell at her for doing it. After she died he does it to feel connected to her again.

 

26 minutes ago, Commander S said:

So if nothing else, it probably won't mess anything up, at least... One thing I do hope to see, though, is a difficulty toggle for Legendary Bounties - there's a point where some of them stop being fun at 4-5 stars (insta-spawning alligators with no radar blips is just a dick move, R*... ), and right now, having them locked at 5 stars just makes them not worth the bother. And it'd be a pretty boneheaded move on R*'s part if they simply added a bunch more, only to have a finite number of replays before the new ones also become cheap and unenjoyable...

Right, I can't even have lower level players help me with my bounties because I am stuck at five star bounties.

Edited November 25, 2020 by Direwrath

[Krommer]

"public or private games of Poker,"

 

Dang, made me think that was something "new", as in I could play poker with NPCS.

I think it just is talking about current game stuff, as in you can have a "private" game

with other players but still not just YOU.

 

 

[Ring Dang Do]

13 hours ago, Lemoyne outlaw said:

im surprised that they did not hype it up. one screenshot and some vague details is stupid. yet with gta o. they did teasers and added a new island. i know that gta has the bigger community. but red dead deserves better than this.

Probably because they know it’s below the bar. Hard to advertise a sandwich that has no filling 

[Commander S]

I'm amused by all the straps and pouches (RIP the circulation in that dude's arm...) - someone needed to remind the R* art team that they're designing for the 1890s, as opposed to this:

 

 

 

Edited November 25, 2020 by Commander S

[Tails Prower]

So one is guessing that R* are really desperate to get people to play Red Dead Online by releasing the standalone game and offering it cheap to tempt people in.

 

Not going to lie here when I say that this does actually make me think about the game since I do like the various style character looks and outfits I have seen in the threads around here and one presumes that this will also probably mean they are planning to do a similar approach to GTA Online and offer a free upgrade for PS5 expanded and enhanced edition of the game but I shall see what comes with the update by reading here first before I make any final decisions as to if I become a gunslinger online.

Edited November 25, 2020 by Tails Prower
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[Lonely-Martin]

5 hours ago, Commander S said:

...see, as much as I get that it's a bit disappointing for anyone who expected more than meeting the bare-minimum for what qualifies as an 'existing role expansion' (i.e., literally just more of the same tacked on, instead of an evolution of the role), there's a benefit to them doing it like this: if you're fine with the overall implementation of Bounty Hunter stuff in RDO, then nothing changes or gets made worse here.

 

What I mean is, Bounty Hunter as-is has some flexibility for players - you're a hired gun, and so it's up to you whether you're effectively a wannabe lawman, or a ruthless vigilante (mainly down to which bounties you choose to do, and whether you bring them in dead or alive). Imagine the expansion was straight-up 'Deputy', and existing bounty hunters got automatically upgraded - fine if you're more honourable, but probably not for anyone who plays as a full-on outlaw.

 

So if nothing else, it probably won't mess anything up, at least... One thing I do hope to see, though, is a difficulty toggle for Legendary Bounties - there's a point where some of them stop being fun at 4-5 stars (insta-spawning alligators with no radar blips is just a dick move, R*... ), and right now, having them locked at 5 stars just makes them not worth the bother. And it'd be a pretty boneheaded move on R*'s part if they simply added a bunch more, only to have a finite number of replays before the new ones also become cheap and unenjoyable...

I agree with you here, and if anything it shows R* still might not be able to fully fix the game still too.

 

I mean, I'm happy there's less in a lobby of course, as I want lobby choices to GTFO of public, lol. But them adding basically some 'more if the same' doesn't disrupt the game further than it already is, which feels like it's pushing to its limit right now, and let's them leave things as they are.

 

It could also elude to R* feeling they need to string it out longer until new gen grows over 2021 and they can drop this generation asap to push forward with more fixes to the stability of lobbies etc before they start adding more significant stuff.

[RyuNova]

3 hours ago, Commander S said:

I'm amused by all the straps and pouches (RIP the circulation in that dude's arm...) - someone needed to remind the R* art team that they're designing for the 1890s, as opposed to this:

 

 

Who was that one artist who was obsessed with pouches? Used to draw his character with really small feet and the women were just less defined muscular men?

 

This DLC pretty much sums up R*'s attitude towards RDO, Christmas and the cusp of a new Gen and we get LESS? This was their one chance to do something big and it's worse than Naturalist, f*ck off.

[DentureDynamite]

3 hours ago, Tails Prower said:

So one is guessing that R* are really desperate to get people to play Red Dead Online by releasing the standalone game and offering it cheap to tempt people in.

 

Not going to lie here when I say that this does actually make me think about the game since I do like the various style character looks and outfits I have seen in the threads around here and one presumes that this will also probably mean they are planning to do a similar approach to GTA Online and offer a free upgrade for PS5 expanded and enhanced edition of the game but I shall see what comes with the update by reading here first before I make any final decisions as to if I become a gunslinger online.

Tails! Long time no see.

 

And yeah, my guess is that R* is trying hard to appease Take Two by trying to drum up income from RDO that simply hasn't been there... (big surprise on that lol)

Edited November 25, 2020 by DentureDynamite

[DentureDynamite]

12 hours ago, ram_pete67 said:

really? this is what they have been working on for what ? like 3 month. Of course - the fuken bounty hunter. the one bloody role which was a bloody grind and i haven't touched anymore since i reached lvl 20. luckily there is a gta update to come. this is a big pile of shyte - i speak for myself of course, i want to buy a property for f*cks sake ....

 

It's easy to think that R* wants everyone playing GTA Online--even those who would rather play RDO.

 

But I have to ask: just how long is a small island going to engage players? It's going to need some seriously new/unique game play elements to keep players coming back after it's explored.

 

Like most everyone else, I used to think that opening up the casino would be amazing... until it actually happened. Frankly, it's dullsville.

Edited November 25, 2020 by DentureDynamite

[korhan332]

Why ? I Still don't get the reason whatever it's r* after all. So One question, Can I Still play online when update comes or am I Have to buy it separately, if I Have to buy separately it's bulls**it 

[Tails Prower]

23 minutes ago, korhan332 said:

Why ? I Still don't get the reason whatever it's r* after all. So One question, Can I Still play online when update comes or am I Have to buy it separately, if I Have to buy separately it's bulls**it 

 

If you already have the main game and online it'll just be as normal I guess.

 

59 minutes ago, DentureDynamite said:

Tails! Long time no see.

 

And yeah, my guess is that R* is trying hard to appease Take Two by trying to drum up income from RDO that simply hasn't been there... (big surprise on that lol)

 

You're late! Was expecting you might spot this earlier! 

 

No big surprise as you say but I am always a 'cheapskate' so offering it at that price is something I shouldn't ignore the possibility whilst it's there and I don't expect it will amass my 10,800 hours of playtime on GTA V (thanks PS5, love that new Time Played total), as my new challenge if GTA Online Stand Alone can ever equal that number, 

Edited November 25, 2020 by Tails Prower
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[Rev. Gnash]

I hope, we get rival bounty hunters, with this role expansion.

 

James Langton and his boys or someone in the mold of Klaus Kinski's character in the Great Silence.

 

 

 

 

 

Spoiler

DC comics had some fun with that character also:

 

 

 

Edited November 25, 2020 by Rev. Gnash

[jackedbanan]

I'd rather start playing this game again when I can have solo sessions, no bueno for me

[Lemoyne outlaw]

3 hours ago, Rev. Gnash said:

I hope, we get rival bounty hunters, with this role expansion.

 

James Langton and his boys or someone in the mold of Klaus Kinski's character in the Great Silence.

 

 

 

 

 

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DC comics had some fun with that character also:

 

 

 

what is that comic series called? i have been looking for a western comic to read.

[Rev. Gnash]

27 minutes ago, Lemoyne outlaw said:

what is that comic series called? i have been looking for a western comic to read.

All Star Western Vol. 1 - 4

 

 

The last 20 years, the industry has published, some solid comics in the  Western genre.

 

Spoiler

Right now I am reading Blueberry - an old classic from the European market (they know how to write a western).

 

 

 

[dieseltech20]

11 hours ago, DentureDynamite said:

It's easy to think that R* wants everyone playing GTA Online--even those who would rather play RDO.

 

But I have to ask: just how long is a small island going to engage players? It's going to need some seriously new/unique game play elements to keep players coming back after it's explored.

 

Like most everyone else, I used to think that opening up the casino would be amazing... until it actually happened. Frankly, it's dullsville.

2 maybe 3 days MAX. Of course that assumes I can visit it whenever I want to. If it's only tied to a heist, I doubt I will ever see it.

 

So true about that damn Casino. Basically a Yacht on land.

Edited November 26, 2020 by dieseltech20

[Lemoyne outlaw]

1 hour ago, Rev. Gnash said:

All Star Western Vol. 1 - 4

 

 

The last 20 years, the industry has published, some solid comics in the  Western genre.

 

  Hide contents

Right now I am reading Blueberry - an old classic from the European market (they know how to write a western).

 

 

 

thanks. do you know of any western comics that are still being written?

[Rev. Gnash]

9 minutes ago, Lemoyne outlaw said:

thanks. do you know of any western comics that are still being written?

The Sixth Gun, is pretty damn good, publication ended 2016.

[Direwrath]

14 hours ago, DentureDynamite said:

It's easy to think that R* wants everyone playing GTA Online--even those who would rather play RDO.

 

But I have to ask: just how long is a small island going to engage players? It's going to need some seriously new/unique game play elements to keep players coming back after it's explored.

 

Like most everyone else, I used to think that opening up the casino would be amazing... until it actually happened. Frankly, it's dullsville.

I just cannot get into GTA Online, used to play the other GTA series a lot but even with my own characters it's just not my thing. And after they reset my son's arcade after we literally just finished doing all of the tasks to get to the big job I just never got back into it.

And the casino is just another building, barely anything to do and after the arcade mess I just didn't feel like wasting time trying to get to the heist if it was going to fall apart as well. So if I'm not playing RDO than it's off to Valhalla for me.

 

8 hours ago, Rev. Gnash said:

I hope, we get rival bounty hunters, with this role expansion.

 

James Langton and his boys or someone in the mold of Klaus Kinski's character in the Great Silence.

Now that would be fun! Can you imagine being stalked by a group intent on taking away your bounty, or having them stop you on the road like they did in Story mode. Just having guys ride up and shoot at you isn't all that great when it happens all of the time.

[Rev. Gnash]

18 minutes ago, Direwrath said:

...or having them stop you on the road like they did in Story mode. Just having guys ride up and shoot at you isn't all that great when it happens all of the time.

Amen. The mission with Sadie and John, having a gunfight with Langton's posse, was epic.

[Direwrath]

20 minutes ago, Rev. Gnash said:

Amen. The mission with Sadie and John, having a gunfight with Langton's posse, was epic.

That's what I am hoping for, some better resistance to deal with. Having no name NPCs swarm us in waves just isn't that much fun.

[Leftover Pizza]

Bets on Invite Only/Solo sessions only available in the paid Stand Alone version?

[RyuNova]

18 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

Bets on Invite Only/Solo sessions only available in the paid Stand Alone version?

 

Its stuff like this that I want to know about. Is the "Stand Alone" version an actual Xbox Series and PS5 version or just the same BC version with the Story Mode locked out?

[GRANDHEIST]

75% off, so standalone online is really about 30$ 

 

do they really think the online is half the value of the full game?

[Tails Prower]

1 hour ago, RyuNova said:

 

Its stuff like this that I want to know about. Is the "Stand Alone" version an actual Xbox Series and PS5 version or just the same BC version with the Story Mode locked out?

 

I will report for you next week as I have made my decision! I am going to buy the stand alone game whilst the offer is available so I will report if any change or Invite/Solo lobbies are present.

[RyuNova]

1 minute ago, Tails Prower said:

 

I will report for you next week as I have made my decision! I am going to buy the stand alone game whilst the offer is available so I will report if any change or Invite/Solo lobbies are present.

 

To be honest, I am tempted to throw down the four pounds myself just so I don't need to keep swapping out my disk.

[Tails Prower]

11 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

To be honest, I am tempted to throw down the four pounds myself just so I don't need to keep swapping out my disk.

 

Fair enough, I see the reasoning in that one. One reason I bought the digital version of the PS5 though I didn't really think it was a benefit at the time but having everything on the machine and not having to put disc in/out of the console

is quite a saving for me since my machine is far from my seat in my flat.

 

Second hand store is probably going to wonder what hit them once the current UK lockdown restrictions end and I offer up a huge pile of PS4 games...