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[suicidal_banana]

Has anybody done a serious comparisons between cayo perico trailers (including the still's of that cryptic one) and in-game yet? i remember the overal quality looking much nicer and here we are with weird massive hitbox concrete plants (for first few days anyway, sorta improved now) and so-so looks. Kinda felt like newer engine was being teased during that first trailer aswell.

[eejyool]

18 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Btw with this post if people missed it I was trying to imply the Periscope intro videos that are 2 seconds are not recorded in V current gen but likely in V next gen. Skybox is different, water is different, and if you see it in motion the water is even reflecting the stars which doesn't happen in current gen GTA V...

Wait, are you talking about the cutscene with Pavel? Or the trailer? I don't get it

[Spider-Vice]

3 minutes ago, LodwigRedemption said:

Wait, are you talking about the cutscene with Pavel? Or the trailer? I don't get it

Pavel sub intro.

[eejyool]

2 minutes ago, suicidal_banana said:

Has anybody done a serious comparisons between cayo perico trailers (including the still's of that cryptic one) and in-game yet? i remember the overal quality looking much nicer and here we are with weird massive hitbox concrete plants (for first few days anyway, sorta improved now) and so-so looks. Kinda felt like newer engine was being teased during that first trailer aswell.

Eh, to be honest the advertising team for GTA Online has always done a good job in making the game look better than it actually does, through high-end PC graphics, filters and the likes. I think we would have noticed if it was the next gen version in the trailers

[rlm_gta]

3 minutes ago, LodwigRedemption said:

Wait, are you talking about the cutscene with Pavel? Or the trailer? I don't get it

Same, I'm lost now 

Edit: oh I see, the first time cutscene when you go inside the Kosatka...interesting

Edited January 25, 2021 by rml_gta

[fryday]

iiivcsavb4vi...where doe this Code come from?

[philipg193]

Spider-Vice is taking about this: 

 

[Classique]

7 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Which would mean...

It goes from a "wroom wroooom" to a "WRROOOOOMM, brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrrbrrrbr"

[rlm_gta]

1 minute ago, philipg193 said:

Spider-Vice is taking about this: 

 

Sh*t that's true, it looks a lot like RDR2 water physics...it's different from the actual GTA V water physics, ok this is so interesting

[Spider-Vice]

I'm just talking about the Periscope videos, not the trailer. Regardless, Cayo Perico itself has very different assets from the rest of the game in terms of vegetation etc so this thing is definitely next gen ready.

[RubenGass]

Considering that GTA Online has a life beyond GTA 5, and that 'classic' single player has gone out of fashion (read: it doesn't make as much money as sharkcards), Rockstar could be remaking one of the older games/maps for it to be added to GTA Online. This way an actual remake could be justifiable.

 

I do sincerely hope Rockstar will find a nice hybrid between the current Online and Story Mode. They seem to already have gone that way with Cayo Perico but it is definitely not yet perfect. In GTA 5 Story Mode nearly every single asset is custom made and often contains some kind of easter egg to something. In GTA Online old and completely irrelevant assets are being reused in ways that don't make sense, just to fill a void somewhere. 

[CyberRock]

33 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Btw with this post if people missed it I was trying to imply the Periscope intro videos that are 2 seconds are not recorded in V current gen but likely in V next gen. Skybox is different, water is different, and if you see it in motion the water is even reflecting the stars which doesn't happen in current gen GTA V...

But it's not recorded
see:

 

[seth297]

anyone thinking this 3 vc sa remakes are going to be rdr 2 gta v next gen 6 quality need to get off fantasy island . 

i will put this question to the the forum if that was the case they are putting that  much effort into old ps2 games to bring to that standard . 

 

why would they be bothering with six or this gta remaster they could just use those maps for the next gen for online if that was the case. 

 

and  if this was to do with updating engines for online it would make more sense to update gta 4 . 

 

this is a small project being handled by rockstar dundee like ther bully remaster was from ps2 to 360 or la noire remaster was . 

 

obviously a bigger  job because you are going 2 gen generations up from ps2 to ps4/5 . 

 

be better looking yes but full hd remakes not a chance 

[Classique]

4 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

I'm just talking about the Periscope videos, not the trailer. Regardless, Cayo Perico itself has very different assets from the rest of the game in terms of vegetation etc so this thing is definitely next gen ready.

They even used a few RDR2 props for the Heist - the safe that you have to break into is directly ported from RDR2 (with minor changes, such as LED display), just to name an obvious one.

Edited January 25, 2021 by Classique

[Kernel]

Kernel's curiousity has been piqued

[Piro]

38 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Btw with this post if people missed it I was trying to imply the Periscope intro videos that are 2 seconds are not recorded in V current gen but likely in V next gen. Skybox is different, water is different, and if you see it in motion the water is even reflecting the stars which doesn't happen in current gen GTA V...

Wait, I think I need a picture comparison cause it looks exactly the same to me... (maybe because I play on PC so I don't see anything "next gen" about this). When does this video play exactly? 

 

20 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Which would mean...

...that my theory about the enhanced edition was probably right. Just small background visual changes like new weather effects and volumetric clouds copied from RDR2, right?

But probably nothing that actually changes or improves the basic mechanics of the game. Cause that would require waaay to much work. Messing with the old code and all that.


Funny enough, I remember suggesting a visual shader enhancement couple years ago. Saying there are some amazing pc shaders that don't even affect FPS at all (or just slightly, depending what u want). I remember shearing this pic as an example:




And back than, @Mach1bud kept arguing with me that it never gonna happen lol.

Well, it turns out we probably gonna get something slightly better than just a simple color reshader. Most people don't realize how much new weather effects can change the look of the game.  
  

1 hour ago, Dourvas said:

No offence but you realize that if its NOT a mafia 1 style remake you lose all credibility that you currently have?

Posting things like that and flexing the supposed info is really risky.

Not for me, nobody gives a damn about me i am just a dude chilling in the forum, a non insider simpleton.

I could post a gta Vi leak right now nobody would care.

But for you people that supposedly have inside info, if that info turns out to be wrong then people will have a hard time believing your next "leak".

"Credibility"? Since when he had creditably? He never was a leaker lol. All he ever did here was read the code thats already in the game files. And usually he's just wrong about his conclusions, yet he always acts like he's 100% sure what he's talking about is right (No offence Roll, just pointing out that you always act so sure about your interpretations, even if they are usually wrong. Happens all the time). 

So in a similar way, he probably heard one thing from mods circlejerk, misinterpreted it and now he's acting like he knows more than he does. They always do that kind of sh*t here lol. 

And later those wanna be "leakerz" will come up with some flawed illogical excuses like WildBrick always does to justify his behavior in here. (and by behavior I mean bragging for the sake of bragging that you know something without actually saying anything and acting like a little kid who needs extra attention) 

"IF wE tOlD yOu rIgHt aWaY wHaT iT wAs eXaCtLy, yOu GuYs WoUlD oVeRhYpE iT. So we left cryptic clues that can be interpreted in many different ways, mostly in way cooler way than the actual thing will be."  (lol wat)

Cause yeah... that makes perfect logical sense, right? 

I've been here long enough to see this happen over and over again.
 

On 1/24/2021 at 4:27 PM, Johnny GTA Watson said:

I’m really enjoying the new WhatsApp group that I got invited to by the mods and leakers. It’s really great to hear all the rumours and talk about people on the forums. Thanks for the invite and keep up the good work

Talking behind peoples back, stunning and brave 

Edited January 25, 2021 by Piro

[rlm_gta]

1 minute ago, Classique said:

They even used a few RDR2 props for the Heist - the safe that you have to break into is directly ported from RDR2 (with minor changes, such as LD display), just to name an obvious one.

Yeah, and the Panther itself, it's quite obvious that is ported from RDR2, even I think it uses the same attack physics

[Spider-Vice]

3 minutes ago, CyberRock said:

But it's not recorded
see:

 

lol the files are literally in the game. The periscope previews, lasting 2 seconds, are pre-recorded. Not the whole intro. Just the periscope part. It adjusts to day or night depending on current session time.

Just now, Piro said:

Wait, I think I need a picture comparison cause it looks exactly the same to me... (maybe because I play on PC so I don't see anything "next gen" about this). When does this video play exactly? 

 

Water and sky are completely different, I also play on PC at max settings and 8x MSAA.

[Classique]

1 minute ago, Piro said:

Talking behind peoples back, stunning and brave 

That's gonna be a yikes from me dawg.

1 minute ago, rml_gta said:

Yeah, and the Panther itself, it's quite obvious that is ported from RDR2, even I think it uses the same attack physics

Maybe the panther model (I can't remember), but the animations are from the original mountain lion from GTAVs single player.

[VCPR]

anway, since folks said we should wait 90 days, I set up the timer to hold them accountable

[CyberRock]

2 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

it adjusts to day or night depending on current session time.

Oh, that's explains it, pretty interesting.

[Piro]

7 minutes ago, Classique said:

They even used a few RDR2 props for the Heist - the safe that you have to break into is directly ported from RDR2 (with minor changes, such as LED display), just to name an obvious one.

I always thought thats just a reference to rdr2, just like with all of those painting inside the mansion
 

4 minutes ago, rml_gta said:

Yeah, and the Panther itself, it's quite obvious that is ported from RDR2, even I think it uses the same attack physics

Huh, you sure? I always though thats just a reskinned cougar from SP 
 

3 minutes ago, Classique said:

That's gonna be a yikes from me dawg.

You taking my jokes waaay to seriously lol

Edited January 25, 2021 by Piro

[Spider-Vice]

Btw, using RDR2's weather system would still require some core engine changes, which would make GTA V next gen use RDR2's version of RAGE. Mechanics don't necessarily have to change, they could, but not  necessarily. I assume there's gonna be some enhanced stuff on that front too though.

 

Those clouds and water physics are definitely from a more recent version of RAGE, it even reflects the damn stars.

[Darth_Cruiser]

3 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Btw, using RDR2's weather system would still require some core engine changes, which would make GTA V next gen use RDR2's version of RAGE. Mechanics don't necessarily have to change, they could, but not  necessarily. I assume there's gonna be some enhanced stuff on that front too though.

 

Those clouds and water physics are definitely from a more recent version of RAGE, it even reflects the damn stars.

So all the building textures, pedestrians, vehicles, vegetation graphics will be rdr 2 level too right?

[rlm_gta]

4 minutes ago, Classique said:

That's gonna be a yikes from me dawg.

Maybe the panther model (I can't remember), but the animations are from the original mountain lion from GTAVs single player.

Yeah you could be right, they are similar too, maybe it's just reused... but I'm sure that Nessie in Cayo Perico it's ported from the cut RDR2 easter egg that references were found in RDR2 files about a river monster, I think they share the same texture model if I'm not wrong, like rivermonster or something like that, but interesting that they shared a lot of things of RDR2 in this update, maybe because the updated RAGE that they are(supposing) using in GTA V next gen?

[suicidal_banana]

5 minutes ago, Piro said:

I always thought thats just a reference to rdr2, just like with all of those painting inside the mansion

Yeah there's this and a few more references to rdr2, couldnt find them all
 

 

[UnfurledComet]

Spider-Vice spoon feeding us hints because we're too f*cking stupid or excited to read between the lines

[Piro]

22 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Water and sky are completely different, I also play on PC at max settings and 8x MSAA.

Well looks like you have much better eyes than I do. On the other hand, I don't even remember the last time I played GTA V so my memory might be cloudy.

Still, I would love if someone would make a picture comparison if they are "completely different" cause for now, it looks kinda the same to me. Very minor details.  
 

17 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Btw, using RDR2's weather system would still require some core engine changes, which would make GTA V next gen use RDR2's version of RAGE. Mechanics don't necessarily have to change, they could, but not  necessarily. I assume there's gonna be some enhanced stuff on that front too though.

 

Those clouds and water physics are definitely from a more recent version of RAGE, it even reflects the damn stars.

Well when they were making RDR2, they started with GTAV engine as a base, right? its the same engine, just improved.

So porting parts of those improvements (like new weather effects for example) shouldn't be that hard. 

While messing with core features seems more complicated. Sure, they can change some small things but I wouldn't expect much.


If I would have to place a bet? I don't know. Maybe they will allow us to jump instead of rolling just like in rdr2, maybe they will add lassos or horses. Or dual wielding?  Thats my "best case scenerio" imo.

Edited January 25, 2021 by Piro

[Cavot]

1 minute ago, Piro said:

Well looks like you have much better eyes than I do. Ont he other hand, I don't even remember the last time I played GTA V so my memory might be cloudy.

Still, I would love if someone would make a picture comparison if they are "completely different" cause for now, it looks kinda the same to me. Very minor details.  
 

Well when they were making RDR2, they started with GTAV engine as a base, right? its the same engine, just improved.

So porting parts of those improvements (like new weather effects for example) shouldn't be that hard. 

While messing with core features seems more complicated. Sure, they can change some small things but I wouldn't expect much.


If I would have to place a bet? I don't know. Maybe they will allow us to jump instead of rolling just like in rdr2, maybe they will add lassos or horses.  Thats my "best case scenerio" imo.

Best way to make a comparison would be for someone on PC with high settings to try and mimic that night time periscope shot in open water with similar weather. Any takers?

[rlm_gta]

2 minutes ago, Piro said:

maybe they will add lassos or horses

Wow that would be so cool, even they were cut from the original GTA V release too, I think the unique leftover (apart from audios of horses sounds) it's just a low poly model of a "horse") They were supposed to be very important in the game (I'm looking at you, the lost Sharmoota Job ehem...)