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REVENGE777
1 hour ago, FanEu7 said:

 

A balance would be good, I think a new GTA game every 7 years or so would be good. I don't want a new one every two years/every year like COD/AC etc. there is no hype for their new installments and people get sick of it. I prefer GTA being a more special experience.

 

Also they are no doubt working on GTA VI


i was 11 when gta IV came out

I was 16 when gta V came out

i don’t want to be f*cking 26 years old when the next gta game comes out. That’s a long f*cking time. 7 years between games is ridiculous when they used to make great games consistently every year. Not just gta but other IPs as well. 

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6 minutes ago, SonofLosSantos said:


i was 11 when gta IV came out

I was 16 when gta V came out

i don’t want to be f*cking 26 years old when the next gta game comes out. That’s a long f*cking time. 7 years between games is ridiculous when they used to make great games consistently every year. Not just gta but other IPs as well. 


Well the PS2 Era was different, back then video games in general didn't take much development time. So unless you just want copy & pasted games its not possible to deliver a new great games that fast.

 

Also we got RDR2 two years ago (5 years after GTA V) and unlike with Ubisoft, all Rockstar studios worked on it. Getting GTA VI 5 years after RDR2 makes sense to me 

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11 minutes ago, FanEu7 said:


Well the PS2 Era was different, back then video games in general didn't take much development time. So unless you just want copy & pasted games its not possible to deliver a new great games that fast.

 

Also we got RDR2 two years ago (5 years after GTA V) and unlike with Ubisoft, all Rockstar studios worked on it. Getting GTA VI 5 years after RDR2 makes sense to me 


nobody said anything about wanting a new gta every single year but f*ck, 2 games a decade is bullsh*t. Who the f*ck wants that?? I don’t see how people are just “cool” with that. They don’t engage with their community, the don’t give a f*ck about their fans in reality. It’s just all an amalgamation of sh*tty business practices, and outdated development philosophies. RDR2 was a great game but so many of the mechanics are outdated and gameplay is restricted for story reasons. It was a great story but I wouldn’t play it frequently after completing the story. Same with GTA V but I’m getting a bit off topic.

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57 minutes ago, SonofLosSantos said:


nobody said anything about wanting a new gta every single year but f*ck, 2 games a decade is bullsh*t. Who the f*ck wants that?? I don’t see how people are just “cool” with that. They don’t engage with their community, the don’t give a f*ck about their fans in reality. It’s just all an amalgamation of sh*tty business practices, and outdated development philosophies. RDR2 was a great game but so many of the mechanics are outdated and gameplay is restricted for story reasons. It was a great story but I wouldn’t play it frequently after completing the story. Same with GTA V but I’m getting a bit off topic.

 

To each their own, I care more about quality than quantity. GTA V and RDR2 are some of the best games of the last decade and I replay them regulary. I would rather have that than the Ubisoft formula where they release new Assassins Creed & Far Cry games every year/every two years and they are completely forgettable. 

 

Its not just Rocktar who take longer now. Look at Bethesda, they only had Skyrim and Fallout 4 in the last decade and we won't be getting another TES game for like 15+ years (its already been almost 10 and Starfield will come out before that).

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REVENGE777
5 minutes ago, FanEu7 said:

 

To each their own, I care more about quality than quantity. GTA V and RDR2 are some of the best games of the last decade and I replay them regulary. I would rather have that than the Ubisoft formula where they release new Assassins Creed & Far Cry games every year/every two years and they are completely forgettable. 

 

Its not just Rocktar who take longer now. Look at Bethesda, they only had Skyrim and Fallout 4 in the last decade and we won't be getting another TES game for like 15+ years (its already been almost 10 and Starfield will come out before that).


 

GTA V was a major downgrade in terms of quality from GTA IV. Cyberpunk was in development for 9 years and game out as hot trash. development time doesn’t always determine the quality of a game. Like I said before, RDR2 is great and all, but it doesn’t provide the same experience as a GTA game. I mean you you’re fine being 45 years old waiting for the next gta game then be my guest but it’s just depressing how

stagnant everything has gotten, especially in media as a whole but especially with rockstar products. With all the remakes out here you’re telling me they couldn’t remake any of the old GTA 3 era games? They couldn’t throw us a bully 2 or a new midnight club?

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4 minutes ago, SonofLosSantos said:


 

GTA V was a major downgrade in terms of quality from GTA IV. Cyberpunk was in development for 9 years and game out as hot trash. development time doesn’t always determine the quality of a game. Like I said before, RDR2 is great and all, but it doesn’t provide the same experience as a GTA game. I mean you you’re fine being 45 years old waiting for the next gta game then be my guest but it’s just depressing how

stagnant everything has gotten, especially in media as a whole but especially with rockstar products. With all the remakes out here you’re telling me they couldn’t remake any of the old GTA 3 era games? They couldn’t throw us a bully 2 or a new midnight club?

 

And yet its still better than any other similiar open world game, just compare GTA V with Mafia 3 or the Watch Dogs series. And Cyberpunk 2077's real development only started once the last TW3 dlc was finished back in 2016. Its still unpolished but thats more because of CDPR's lack of experience, Rockstar always releases complete games though.

 

 I would like to see some remakes of 3D Era games as well (VC and SA especially since I like them both a lot but they have aged) but they would basically require the effort of creating completely new games. Overall when I look back at the last 10 years and RDR1, GTA V and RDR2 are among my favourite games of all time + MP3 was really good as well. So I really can't complain as long as Rockstar delivers like this. I still get your point though, the GTA era in the 2000s was crazy. So many great games

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REVENGE777
7 minutes ago, FanEu7 said:

 

And yet its still better than any other similiar open world game, just compare GTA V with Mafia 3 or the Watch Dogs series. And Cyberpunk 2077's real development only started once the last TW3 dlc was finished back in 2016. Its still unpolished but thats more because of CDPR's lack of experience, Rockstar always releases complete games though.

 

 I would like to see some remakes of 3D Era games as well (VC and SA especially since I like them both a lot but they have aged) but they would basically require the effort of creating completely new games. Overall when I look back at the last 10 years and RDR1, GTA V and RDR2 are among my favourite games of all time + MP3 was really good as well. So I really can't complain as long as Rockstar delivers like this. I still get your point though, the GTA era in the 2000s was crazy. So many great games


 

I know they’re capable of so much more than what they’re giving us now. It frustrates me because they know they’re unmatched and have no real competition, and with that, they have cornered the market and can do as they please. It’s ridiculous. if they had competition I think they’d be much more aggressive and engaged but they’ve just gone mellow and quiet.

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8 minutes ago, SonofLosSantos said:


 

I know they’re capable of so much more than what they’re giving us now. It frustrates me because they know they’re unmatched and have no real competition, and with that, they have cornered the market and can do as they please. It’s ridiculous. if they had competition I think they’d be much more aggressive and engaged but they’ve just gone mellow and quiet.

 

Yeah more competition would be good. But I don't see anyone stepping up to that level in the forseeable future. Many have tried, no one succeeded. If the likes of the Watch Dogs Series or Mafia 3  or Cyberpunk 2077 (I like it but clearly in terms of open world it doesn't come close) were better then things would be different

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other GTA fans: man i can't believe they are screwing up the GTA lore by adding flying bikes and aliens!

 

TLAD fans who have had to put up with the retconning of johnny and the lost mc WAAAY back in 2013:

 

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2 minutes ago, Niobium said:

other GTA fans: man i can't believe they are screwing up the GTA lore by adding flying bikes and aliens!

 

TLAD fans who have had to put up with the retconning of johnny and the lost mc WAAAY back in 2013:

 

 

 

My 13 year old nephew has recently been deemed mature enough to play GTA V and just got past Trevor's first appearance/missions. He hates him, he's his least favourite of the protagonists and he didn't enjoy his missions. Thought you might be pleased to know this lol.

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36 minutes ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

He hates him, he's his least favourite of the protagonists and he didn't enjoy his missions.

I don't blame him.

 

I may not hate GTA V as much anymore, but I still have a vendetta against Trevor Philips.

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billiejoearmstrong8
11 minutes ago, Fake Lilina said:

I don't blame him.

 

I may not hate GTA V as much anymore, but I still have a vendetta against Trevor Philips.

Opposite for me, haha

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1 hour ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

 

My 13 year old nephew has recently been deemed mature enough to play GTA V and just got past Trevor's first appearance/missions. He hates him, he's his least favourite of the protagonists and he didn't enjoy his missions. Thought you might be pleased to know this lol.

 

He may like him more once he gets to LS. I don't like Blaine County Trevor either, especially because of the Johnny scene + he is just too OP. He can just beat any gang easily and lacks any sort of human relationships (Wade and Ron are jokes).

 

Once he gets to LS he becomes more human, we see his relationship with Michael who is someone he can't bully + actually cares for + he shows concern for Jimmy and Tracy and also has great interactions with Franklin and Lamar. 

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1 hour ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

 

My 13 year old nephew has recently been deemed mature enough to play GTA V and just got past Trevor's first appearance/missions. He hates him, he's his least favourite of the protagonists and he didn't enjoy his missions. Thought you might be pleased to know this lol.

 

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33 minutes ago, FanEu7 said:

Once he gets to LS he becomes more human, we see his relationship with Michael who is someone he can't bully + actually cares for + he shows concern for Jimmy and Tracy and also has great interactions with Franklin and Lamar

He becomes more comic relief which I like

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You guys really prefer the flanderized version of himself that Trevor becomes once he reaches Los Santos? I always wished he was the same character that he was in Blaine County, and based on the devkit beta cutscene audio, that was the case at one point.

 

Yeah, he'd have been even more of a piece of sh*t, but it would be interesting going back and forth between Michael and Trevor. Playing as "the antagonist."

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GTA-Biker
On 12/30/2020 at 2:16 PM, FanEu7 said:

 

Not really since all their studios work on one game. That's how you get a masterpiece like RDR2


Sure they could go the Ubisoft way and just release half assed rehashed games every two years but I wouldn't be a fan of that and I can see the threads here already with people complaining about how Rockstar is milking GTA. Look at how Ubisoft handled AC, it was milked so much that they got rid of its identity and made it a Witcher rip off

I know making a triple A videogame takes more time than around 15-20 years ago,but if they could make at least one game a year back in the 2000s (both GTA and other titles) and have most of them turn out good,I'm sure they could still release a new game every two to three years and make it good.

Also,as SonofLosSantos already said,they are milking GTA already,and many players have been complaining about it for years.Instead of finally making GTA 6 or Bully 2 or whatever,they are still focusing on GTA Online after over 7 years,and are rereleasing GTA 5 on new console generation.

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Thelema93

The dead horse you beat for a quick fix.. but it's getting too battered and it's not as fun as it used to be.. unless you take a big break, in which case the decay sets in even further and you're left with barely anything to enjoy anymore. 

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The fact that GTA VI might never happen

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blacklemon173
On 11/5/2020 at 11:47 AM, Aquamaniac said:

Given that GTA Online is set in LA/Hollywood it does not feel that out of place, wonder how it would work in a New York or Miami Setting. Already single player hat some fancy and alien related stuff.

 

I bother more about stupid masks and face paintings, players looking like demons and stuff like that, that really kills immersion and doesn't fit the setting.

Agreed, 50% of every session is just players with black / red eyes and weird ass demon make up

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Saint's row 4 called, they want their style back.

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CynicalMexican

I can't believe I'm making this comparison, but R* and GTA 5 is comparable to what Nickelodeon did to SpongeBob... yeez.

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VintageRebelXX

I am a Grinder or used to be I will never buy an Oppressor I am more of a Car Enthusiast for me Gtao was do grinding work like real life maybe a heist get myself a McLaren or Jag or Merc then rince repeat. I had a Hydra one based on the Harrier two flew my mates before wanted one three I am British and wanted the Harrier so I could rock up to it in my DB5 step out. Anyway In Public Sessions Hydra means die instantly deppressor guy killed me 10 times. All I wanted to do was fly from the City to Sandy or Paleto Beach to collect some money out of my arcade. Now I've had to restart And The cash grabbing is blaintly obvious can't do most grinds because you need money there are save issues which have lost money there was that One Mil R* failed to give to many Players in January I was one of them. Gtao should be about if your angry or had a had a Bad day you hop with your mates run some peds over lose the Cops then ride in a Van or clapped out hatchback in Tracksuit tops with Balaclavas on and a Shotgun Rob a shop or Bank lose the police change into a suit get into your nicest car go to the Strip Club Casino, Horse Racing if it was added see some girls, gamble or just get smashed at a night club and repeat. When they added the LSCM it was welcomed cus you can't hold a car meet at any place without some 12 year old on an Oppressor called xxFaze_usuck__xx blowing you and the meet up. Then resulting in Car Meets being ruined your fresh new car destroyed and everyone killing each other or trying to kill the griefer. One thing I don't get We have insurance to get our car back, make sure we know where we left it so on. But if A crash was not caused by me AI the game should give me money If I am on a bike and die we will say get injuried then 10K plus cost of bike. If I'm in a car under 100K you get 1K. A Car between 100K and 500K 3K a Car between 500K and 1 Mil 5K and then anything over a mil 7K. Then the Mechanic payments should not be Daily someday I barely use him and he takes payment I once tried to not use him for a I'm game week R* then got a Truck to put my T20 in a ditch. The Mechanic should be fined If he puts your car in a stupid position I once had Brought a Shlagen GT was my 2nd day of owning it was by the Power Station requested it Mechanic spawns it in front of a Car or Truck the back end I'd ruined yet I pay 500 dollars. The Mechanic could be used differently ie we have a Workshop area we can't access at the back of 10 car Garages he should be based there if I want mods to my car or cleaning or repairs it should be free as I own the property the Mechanic does the Work tuning whatever Then he gets Paid for that. He stops working if you don't pay him yet my CEO assistant doesn't. Rockstar would never do it though which is know why I very rarely grind or do heists I am an RP guy mostly or chill. Gtao should have heists so you can add to your car collection basically be the Mafia I had a Peaky Blinders one set up as I am from the Black Country where it is filmed and wanted to own a lot of things. But World Ending and Island Robbing Heists are stupid do Casino, Bank and maybe like Cash In Transit Van/Train Robberies or Rob Cargo from Airport or Docks that would be realistic if I wanted World Ending heists COD or stuff Is for that Gta is about having illegal dangerous chaotic fun in a virtual world 

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Wolfman_

I know this is terrible for us, the fans, but GTA V is most likely a dream come true for R* as a company. Actually it would be a dream come true for any company out there. It's a golden goose, probably one of the most profitable entertainment products ever.

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1 minute ago, Wolfman_ said:

I know this is terrible for us, the fans, but GTA V is most likely a dream come true for R* as a company. Actually it would be a dream come true for any company out there. It's a golden goose, probably one of the most profitable entertainment products ever.

 

In fact it is the most profitable entertainment product of all time (that's at least till GTA VI is out).

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ddarko12
1 hour ago, Wolfman_ said:

I know this is terrible for us, the fans, but GTA V is most likely a dream come true for R* as a company. Actually it would be a dream come true for any company out there. It's a golden goose, probably one of the most profitable entertainment products ever.

This may come as a surprise to many however... you can actually pour your heart and soul in and make a quality, well-rounded product and still come out on top. That is what got GTA here in the first place. The problem with many companies that reach success though, is they get big-headed, they let their clueless CEO and accountants do all of the thinking and they start pushing out rubbish because they know the title sells itself, they don't really have to do anything spectacular anymore because they already built up a quality fanbase. And you know what happens? They stay successful for a while, maybe a couple decades... and then people start to not care because something better finally came along. And when that happens, a company better wake up else they're headed down the same path of many great companies who are no longer great and get bought out or file for bankruptcy.

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Lioshenka
2 hours ago, VintageRebelXX said:

I am a Grinder

Completely off topic, but I noticed that a lot of people are talking about grinding in gaming context recently; what does it mean?

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blacklemon173
On 8/24/2021 at 9:13 PM, Lioshenka said:

Completely off topic, but I noticed that a lot of people are talking about grinding in gaming context recently; what does it mean?

Basically working your ass off in a videogame with the goal to get a lot of in-game currency. In GTA Online for example this would be playing a lot of heists over and over again for hours

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Irish O'African

Honestly, because of the direction that GTAO has taken since Doomsday (when officially stopped playing GTAO). I started playing FiveM when i got my first gaming rig and haven't looked back since. I know that some on here might dislike FiveM for various reasons, but I have found enjoyment and solace in FM over what GTAO can even provide nearly a decade later. Glad I enjoyed GTAO while I could. I don't miss it now.

 

And uh...

 

  

On 8/24/2021 at 9:49 AM, VintageRebelXX said:

I am a Grinder or used to be I will never buy an Oppressor I am more of a Car Enthusiast for me Gtao was do grinding work like real life maybe a heist get myself a McLaren or Jag or Merc then rince repeat. I had a Hydra one based on the Harrier two flew my mates before wanted one three I am British and wanted the Harrier so I could rock up to it in my DB5 step out. Anyway In Public Sessions Hydra means die instantly deppressor guy killed me 10 times. All I wanted to do was fly from the City to Sandy or Paleto Beach to collect some money out of my arcade. Now I've had to restart And The cash grabbing is blaintly obvious can't do most grinds because you need money there are save issues which have lost money there was that One Mil R* failed to give to many Players in January I was one of them. Gtao should be about if your angry or had a had a Bad day you hop with your mates run some peds over lose the Cops then ride in a Van or clapped out hatchback in Tracksuit tops with Balaclavas on and a Shotgun Rob a shop or Bank lose the police change into a suit get into your nicest car go to the Strip Club Casino, Horse Racing if it was added see some girls, gamble or just get smashed at a night club and repeat. When they added the LSCM it was welcomed cus you can't hold a car meet at any place without some 12 year old on an Oppressor called xxFaze_usuck__xx blowing you and the meet up. Then resulting in Car Meets being ruined your fresh new car destroyed and everyone killing each other or trying to kill the griefer. One thing I don't get We have insurance to get our car back, make sure we know where we left it so on. But if A crash was not caused by me AI the game should give me money If I am on a bike and die we will say get injuried then 10K plus cost of bike. If I'm in a car under 100K you get 1K. A Car between 100K and 500K 3K a Car between 500K and 1 Mil 5K and then anything over a mil 7K. Then the Mechanic payments should not be Daily someday I barely use him and he takes payment I once tried to not use him for a I'm game week R* then got a Truck to put my T20 in a ditch. The Mechanic should be fined If he puts your car in a stupid position I once had Brought a Shlagen GT was my 2nd day of owning it was by the Power Station requested it Mechanic spawns it in front of a Car or Truck the back end I'd ruined yet I pay 500 dollars. The Mechanic could be used differently ie we have a Workshop area we can't access at the back of 10 car Garages he should be based there if I want mods to my car or cleaning or repairs it should be free as I own the property the Mechanic does the Work tuning whatever Then he gets Paid for that. He stops working if you don't pay him yet my CEO assistant doesn't. Rockstar would never do it though which is know why I very rarely grind or do heists I am an RP guy mostly or chill. Gtao should have heists so you can add to your car collection basically be the Mafia I had a Peaky Blinders one set up as I am from the Black Country where it is filmed and wanted to own a lot of things. But World Ending and Island Robbing Heists are stupid do Casino, Bank and maybe like Cash In Transit Van/Train Robberies or Rob Cargo from Airport or Docks that would be realistic if I wanted World Ending heists COD or stuff Is for that Gta is about having illegal dangerous chaotic fun in a virtual world 

Holy lack-of-formatting, Batman! Ain't no-one gonna read that malarkey.

 

  

On 8/23/2021 at 12:05 PM, sefus said:

Saint's row 4 called, they want their style back.

Oh boy, don't remind me of the reboot announcement... ugh.

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