GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 5]

[Impeccable]

Just now, Gentle_Shelby said:

You don't really think they will make the map the same or similar size to the one in 2002 game, do you? 

I didn't say that.

[Gentle_Shelby]

5 minutes ago, Impeccable said:

By the way, the city i live is bigger than your country.:)

Lmao I couldn't care less about that.

[DexMacLeod]

3 minutes ago, Black_Jesus said:

I mean not to sound a bit pretentious I think the game developed specially level design has got a lot easier these days and I don't think that's a hassle to create especially like I'm a one guy and I could do that s*** on epic engine or unity 3D engine or even zbrush or cinema 4d or any of that cuz it's simple freaking map and to procedural generate the map with this buildings of certain heights and from there I can start inputting real life buildings or get someone else to do it and just generate it from there. Pretty much code that s*** from the ground up and doing a level will be an easy thing like I kind of do that right now kind of you know just proceed to generate levels. 

 

And there's plenty of tutorials how to make similar GTA V games in like the matter freaking minutes I mean hours you know you ever heard of accelerating change?

 

I'm pretty sure Rockstar doesn't use prebuilt assets. I imagine each building in RDR2 took several days or more just to model and a few more just to texture. I'm pretty sure they spend weeks on cars for GTA Online.

[uNi]

22 minutes ago, Black_Jesus said:

And there's plenty of tutorials how to make similar GTA V games in like the matter freaking minutes I mean hours you know you ever heard of accelerating change?

 

Is that why there's so many good open world games competing with GTA V right now? Yeah.

[marquuard]

4 minutes ago, uNi said:

 

Is that why there's so many good open world games competing with GTA V right now? Yeah.

 

[Spider-Vice]

Every game dev in the world, indie and AAA, just had a collective stroke reading that crock of sh*t lmao.

[BAGS00]

5 hours ago, Dourvas said:

Well symbolically speaking dog people would be take two?? 

We need an image of a dog in Strauss body, Dog Zelnick.

I am not home atm so someone please be my guest.

Time to reveal the truth guys, I'm a Rockstar developer

[victm92]

10 minutes ago, uNi said:

 

Is that why there's so many good open world games competing with GTA V right now? Yeah.

He literally couldn't have lesser idea of how a game is made, how many systems there are behind, and how complex are the interrelations of them, specially in a game of this genre. 

[victm92]

Rockstar is literally the very only entity in this world that can make a piece of work like GTA or RDR. Other game companies have the means but do not want to take the risks. Same with companies from other industries that might have much more resources and power.  Elon Musk could have done his own GTAVI. But he'd had to have started in 2013, as well. 240,000 devs don't make a GTAVI in a month... 

Edited April 4, 2021 by victm92

[tsto]

5 minutes ago, victm92 said:

Rockstar is literally the very only entity in this world that can make a piece of work like GTA or RDR. Other game companies have the means but do not want to take the risks. Same with companies from other industries than might have much more resources and power.  Elon Musk could have done his own GTAVI. But he'd had to have started in 2013, as well. 50,000 devs don't make a GTAVI in a month... 

 

It's a darn shame that other big publishers/developers don't even attempt to compete with the behemoth that is Rockstar in the open world genre of this magnitude. Ubisoft, EA, Activision, SquareEnix... they all have the resources to build something at this level, if they just freakin' tried. Competition is good for the consumer... alas.

[marquuard]

27 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Every game dev in the world, indie and AAA, just had a collective stroke reading that crock of sh*t lmao.

 

[RedDagger]

39 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Every game dev in the world, indie and AAA, just had a collective stroke reading that crock of sh*t lmao.

m8 it's easy

[Gentle_Shelby]

I don't know about you guys but I'm at a point where I'm not sure I would believe an official announcement from Rockstar themselves.

[B_E_N_1992]

On 4/2/2021 at 9:25 AM, marquuard said:

Ricardo Espinoza & Kacey De Santa

It's actually Ricardo Philips. (Miami Vice Nod to the character/actor).

 

Trevor's gonna be pissed to find out his Dad isn't Canadian.

[marquuard]

19 minutes ago, Gentle_Shelby said:

I don't know about you guys but I'm at a point where I'm not sure I would believe an official announcement from Rockstar themselves.

Same here, this game is either the biggest, most sophisticated and tailored thing in the entire gaming industry or a well-served scam.

[Zello]

1 hour ago, tsto said:

 

It's a darn shame that other big publishers/developers don't even attempt to compete with the behemoth that is Rockstar in the open world genre of this magnitude. Ubisoft, EA, Activision, SquareEnix... they all have the resources to build something at this level, if they just freakin' tried. Competition is good for the consumer... alas.

EA apparently was going to back in 2015 but that went nowhere they love to cancel projects and close studios all the time. Activision had True Crime and were going to release True Crime Hong Kong and then later cancelled it until Square Enix brought it back as Sleeping Dogs since then Activision hasn't cared they have CoD and WoW and print money every year. Ubisoft has Watch Dogs I guess... they just need to give it a bit more love and not give it the usual Ubisoft treatment.

 

I'm disappointed that neither Microsoft or Sony haven't attempted a first party exclusive GTA like game. Sony had The Getaway way back then but they've forgotten about it and Microsoft has all these studios that they've purchased and very deep pockets Microsoft could easily make a first party open world GTA competitor if they wanted to.

Edited April 4, 2021 by Zello

[tsto]

6 minutes ago, Zello said:

Ubisoft has Watch Dogs I guess... they just need to give it a bit more love and not give it the usual Ubisoft treatment.

 

They need to hire some guys who actually know how to build a proper physics engine or source out one similar to Euphoria, or Rockstar's in-house replacement. Their open world games have some of the worst driving mechanics and physics the industry has ever seen. I have yet to finish WD Legion due to how irritating that game can be.

[Zello]

Just now, tsto said:

 

They need to hire some guys who actually know how to build a proper physics engine or source out one similar to Euphoria, or Rockstar's in-house replacement. Their open world games have some of the worst driving mechanics and physics the industry has ever seen. I have yet to finish WD Legion due to how irritating that game can be.

Just poach some people from R* who are hungry for a promotion and put them in leadership positions.

[tsto]

3 minutes ago, Zello said:

Just poach some people from R* who are hungry for a promotion and put them in leadership positions.

 

I'd love that. But I think Ubi rather just keep pumping out useless MTX for single player games and braindead seasonal events that add nothing of value.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, seth297 said:

 

yeah rockstar are going to rebuild a map 40 plus years apart lmao

I assure you that nothing is impossible

[Space Cowboy]

24 minutes ago, Zello said:

I'm disappointed that neither Microsoft or Sony haven't attempted a first party exclusive GTA like game. Sony had The Getaway way back then but they've forgotten about it and Microsoft has all these studios that they've purchased and very deep pockets Microsoft could easily make a first party open world GTA competitor if they wanted to.

Maybe neither Sony nor Microsoft see a potential in another crime game that could rival GTA. While GTA is almost universally agreed to be a great series, I imagine other developers have a hard time coming up with a crime series that can truly set itself apart from GTA and be something unique and at the same time popular. They can, of course, create a GTA clone basically, but that way they will be judged against Rockstar, a developer that has decades of experience in making such games. It perhaps just isn't worth for them pursuing this genre, so they focus on other kinds of games.

Maybe I am in a minority here, but I am glad that the market doesn't have many games like GTA now. I like Rockstar games because of their open worlds and attention to detail and not necessarily due to crime themes. For me a crime theme (similar to GTA) alone would have to be paired with R* level of quality to be enjoyable. 

 

Edited April 4, 2021 by 0909090

[evelpod666]

7 hours ago, VCPR Official said:

 

Its just a preacher Truth, not a date,,, "Music Locker"

[Zello]

4 hours ago, 0909090 said:

Maybe neither Sony nor Microsoft see a potential in another crime game that could rival GTA. While GTA is almost universally agreed to be a great series, I imagine other developers have a hard time coming up with a crime series that can truly set itself apart from GTA and be something unique and at the same time popular. They can, of course, create a GTA clone basically, but that way they will be judged against Rockstar, a developer that has decades of experience in making such games. It perhaps just isn't worth for them pursuing this genre, so they focus on other kinds of games.

The Getaway was actually supposed to come out before GTA III in 2000 but it got delayed unfortunately as we know GTA III took off and the Getaway didn't.

 

Microsoft has the Initiative which has some former R* devs and apparently wants to make AAAA games. Their first game is a perfect dark reboot so maybe down the line they might be interested in a GTA competitor.

4 hours ago, 0909090 said:

Maybe I am in a minority here, but I am glad that the market doesn't have many games like GTA now. I like Rockstar games because of their open worlds and attention to detail and not necessarily due to crime themes. For me a crime theme (similar to GTA) alone would have to be paired with R* level of quality to be enjoyable. 

 

I'm the opposite I want more GTA clones. With how long it takes R* to make games I want a game that I can enjoy in between these long ass waits. There's also the possibility of being let down or disappointed when the next GTA does eventually release and because GTA is the only game in town you're either going to love it or hate it. Just look at all the arguments we have on this forum on a daily basis modern vs past, realistic/serious/dark vs fun/arcadey/light, online vs singleplayer, etc. If the next GTA goes in one direction some people are not going to like it and because it's the only thing around with no other options you're pretty much screwed.

 

Also they tend to explore themes or locations that R* won't ever touch. True Crime let you play as a cop, The Getaway and Watch Dogs Legion were set in London. Sleeping Dogs was set in Hong Kong.

 

 

There's a reason why Saints Row 2 did so good in 2008 a lot of people were disappointed with the direction that GTA IV went in and Saints Row offered them a better alternative.

Edited April 5, 2021 by Zello

[Gentlebreeze]

2 hours ago, uNi said:

 

Is that why there's so many good open world games competing with GTA V right now? Yeah.

Don't need to compete with GTA V to be a good open world game. Just stating that they're is code out there that could get someone started on a simple third person game action game which regardless of quality would be consider a "GTA clone". 

[Volatollotalov]

37 minutes ago, 0909090 said:

Maybe neither Sony nor Microsoft see a potential in another crime game that could rival GTA. While GTA is almost universally agreed to be a great series, I imagine other developers have a hard time coming up with a crime series that can truly set itself apart from GTA and be something unique and at the same time popular. They can, of course, create a GTA clone basically, but that way they will be judged against Rockstar, a developer that has decades of experience in making such games. It perhaps just isn't worth for them pursuing this genre, so they focus on other kinds of games.

Maybe I am in a minority here, but I am glad that the market doesn't have many games like GTA now. I like Rockstar games because of their open worlds and attention to detail and not necessarily due to crime themes. For me a crime theme (similar to GTA) alone would have to be paired with R* level of quality to be enjoyable. 

 

 

I see what you mean, but I'm not sure having just one franchise (GTA) totally dominate a whole genre is really a good thing for us in the long run. At least some viable competition from another studio to keep Rockstar on its toes would be a very healthy thing. I'd say that the most recent DLC possibly hints at a little of that complacency creeping in, both creatively and in terms of QA - although rocket science is probably easier than adding more content to GTA5 after all those years and layers of updates.

 

I'm not saying we need a rival GTA clone on the market, R* games definitely have a distinct look and feel that would seem crass if it were simply copied by another studio. We almost need a gaming equivalent of a paradigm shift to push out more innovation in new directions.

 

Or, as I've mentioned before, maybe the sun is setting on the golden era of gaming. As player demands and technical complexities grow ever-exponentially, maybe only a handful of the biggest, best and wealthiest studios are realistically able to continue making decent new AAA games. Even if it takes them ten years to do so.

 

[Gentlebreeze]

2 hours ago, victm92 said:

He literally couldn't have lesser idea of how a game is made, how many systems there are behind, and how complex are the interrelations of them, specially in a game of this genre. 

 

3-5 second google search. Also every game dev isn't on the same level of expertise but I wouldn't expect everyone on here to know the difference and also I'm pretty sure I know a lot more about game developement, more connections to developers and have more opportunities in the industry than quite a few in here. Whether you like it or not, felt offend or insecure it's your problem. Pretty sure I worked for AAA gaming companies before, know more people at Rockstar Games than you and currently get paid to make and teach games whether you like it or not I am that dude, confidently. 

 

 

Edited April 4, 2021 by Black_Jesus

[victm92]

16 minutes ago, Black_Jesus said:

 

3-5 second google search. Also every game dev isn't on the same level of expertise but I wouldn't expect everyone on here to know the difference and also I'm pretty sure I know a lot more about game developement, more connections to developers and have more opportunities in the industry than quite a few in here. Whether you like it or not, felt offend or insecure it's your problem. Pretty sure I worked for AAA gaming companies before, know more people at Rockstar Games than you and currently get paid to make and teach games whether you like it or not I am that dude, confidently. 

 

 

Source: of self esteem for you to say that bollocks. 

 

I don't have time right now of watching that video but I can safely assume that it's not directly related with our topic and under no circumstances serves as a proof of nothing. 

 

Edited April 4, 2021 by victm92

[Spider-Vice]

11 minutes ago, Black_Jesus said:

3-5 second google search. Also every game dev isn't on the same level of expertise but I wouldn't expect everyone on here to know the difference and also I'm pretty sure I know a lot more about game developement, more connections to developers and have more opportunities in the industry than quite a few in here. Whether you like it or not, felt offend or insecure it's your problem. Pretty sure I worked for AAA gaming companies before, know more people at Rockstar Games than you and currently get paid to make and teach games whether you like it or not I am that dude, confidently. 

Man, this almost sounds like a copy pasta.  I think you're delusional sir, might want to take off those VR glasses or something.

 

3 minutes ago, victm92 said:

I can safely assume that it's not directly related with out topic

Also this.

[Volatollotalov]

18 minutes ago, Black_Jesus said:

 

3-5 second google search. Also every game dev isn't on the same level of expertise but I wouldn't expect everyone on here to know the difference and also I'm pretty sure I know a lot more about game developement, more connections to developers and have more opportunities in the industry than quite a few in here. Whether you like it or not, felt offend or insecure it's your problem. Pretty sure I worked for AAA gaming companies before, know more people at Rockstar Games than you and currently get paid to make and teach games whether you like it or not I am that dude, confidently. 

 

 

 

Um, that's splicing together a load of third party pre-made packages that presumably took weeks or months for other people to make. That game probably has the sophistication of a single mission in GTA3, albeit with mediocre modern-era graphics.

 

It's kind of like saying "I've made an awesome pizza in just 5 minutes" after buying one down the supermarket, taking it home and putting it in the oven. But as an AAA dev I'm sure you know that already.

 

Edited April 4, 2021 by Volatollotalov

[MaccerKuntPaul]

15 minutes ago, Black_Jesus said:

 

3-5 second google search. Also every game dev isn't on the same level of expertise but I wouldn't expect everyone on here to know the difference and also I'm pretty sure I know a lot more about game developement, more connections to developers and have more opportunities in the industry than quite a few in here. Whether you like it or not, felt offend or insecure it's your problem. Pretty sure I worked for AAA gaming companies before, know more people at Rockstar Games than you and currently get paid to make and teach games whether you like it or not I am that dude, confidently. 

 

 

Yo delete your account