GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 5]

[Daniel Blain]

7 hours ago, rollschuh2282 said:

well...thought i post the code snippet i found of most likely GTA 6 in the RDR2.exe

there is a mention in it of a parachuting file that does not exist in V or the gta5.exe either, so it isn´t a leftover and most likely a parachuting file from GTA 6.

parachute stuff.

 

 

Awesome discovery, dude, well done!

But, may be its just for coming GTA V E&E?  Or its not possible?

[Orthur]

1 minute ago, Daniel Blain said:

 

Awesome discovery, dude, well done!

But, may be its just for coming GTA V E&E?  Or its not possible?

But if it is, it's strange that they'd do new animations for parachuting, I don't expect that many new animations/game mechanics for GTA V e&e because it uses RDR2's version of RAGE, I just expect it to have better graphics. But it's not out of the realm that it could be some kinda new animations for GTA V e&e...

[rollschuh2282]

18 minutes ago, Daniel Blain said:

 

Awesome discovery, dude, well done!

But, may be its just for coming GTA V E&E?  Or its not possible?

no it isn´t.

that line is even in the PC release version included.

and that was 2019.

i really doubt it has something to do with E&E.

my guess is relative simple.

parachuting is something that is implemented into the core base engine itself.

which is why there is a setting in the gameconfig to enable parachuting, but is set to false.

similiar to the crouching in V.

a lot of stuff is part of the base RAGE engine.

and RAGE was originally made for GTA.

so a lot of base code is to make a GTA game.

which is also why the RDR2 vehicle.meta still has that entry for the vehicle manufacturers from V and such or a lot of other stuff.

even some internal stuff has GTA in the name etc.

so that is the reason why that skydiving line slipped into RDR2.

it´s RAGE base code and they probs improved it for GTA 6 at that time, which means in got put into the base RAGE code, which RDR2 also uses.

 

maybe sounds a bit complicated, but it really isn´t.

 

if there are other questions regarding that, just ask

Edited January 15, 2021 by rollschuh2282

[Razed-]

1 hour ago, GRANDHEIST said:

 

 

51 minutes ago, IS90 said:

Also this is for NBA right?
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10471357

 

Close but no cigar. That site sucks btw.

[Len Lfc]

23 minutes ago, rollschuh2282 said:

and RAGE was originally made for GTA.

Was it, though? Rockstar San Diego made RAGE. And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they develop it for their games? It was just first used for Table Tennis, then GTA IV.

[GRANDHEIST]

6 minutes ago, Razed- said:

Close but no cigar.

Gotta light then?

 

The other recent patents seem to be for NBA2K

And the older ones seem too old for VI

[IS90]

12 minutes ago, Razed- said:

 

 

Close but no cigar. That site sucks btw.

I was closer than close:
 

Spoiler

 

[IS90]

Just now, Disclolume said:

Blood, sweat and tears confirmed.

[Disclolume]

7 minutes ago, IS90 said:

Blood, sweat and tears confirmed.

its for NBA

[Zello]

31 minutes ago, IS90 said:

I was closer than close:
 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

NFL

 

TACKLES?

 

 

NFL 2K IS BACK BABY!!!!

[GRANDHEIST]

https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200338450

This could be Huge

+ there are more patents

[Zello]

1 minute ago, Disclolume said:

its for NBA

Nope NFL

 

QB Pocket profile

 

QB= Quarterback 

 

When being a sports fan pays off lmao.

[IS90]

2 minutes ago, Zello said:

NFL

 

TACKLES?

 

 

NFL 2K IS BACK BABY!!!!

OR
You can play for the Vice City Panthers m8

[Zello]

1 minute ago, IS90 said:

OR
You can play for the Vice City Panthers m8

Nope.

It lines up with Take Two and the NFL reaching a deal last year.

 

https://newsroom.2k.com/news/2k-announces-partnership

 

 

 

[wise_man]

6 minutes ago, GRANDHEIST said:

https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200338450

This could be Huge

+ there are more patents

- road network

- list of regions

- vehicles

- ambient traffic

- NPCs

- [0032] .. classification (e.g., a highway, a road, a private driveway, private land, and so on), supported vehicles (e.g., big vehicles, work vehicles, buses, sedans, motorcycles, bicycles, and so on), limitations (e.g., tunnel, low headroom) ...

 

I'm not an expert, so it could be a coincidence in keywords use.

And I never thought video game could be this complex, prop to the devs.

Edited January 15, 2021 by wise_man

[rollschuh2282]

49 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

Was it, though? Rockstar San Diego made RAGE. And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they develop it for their games? It was just first used for Table Tennis, then GTA IV.

Yes.

RAGE was primarily made for GTA.

Table tennis was actually just a tech demo they released as a game iirc.

And like i said, even internal code has GTA in the name.

Like render stuff is iirc gtarenderthread for example.

 

[deadasdisco]

39 minutes ago, GRANDHEIST said:

https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200338450

This could be Huge

+ there are more patents

Yeah the other recent patents, while relevant are mostly the original or progressions of RDR2's tech. 

[Disclolume]

48 minutes ago, GRANDHEIST said:

https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200338450

This could be Huge

+ there are more patents

[0063] "By way of example, start/end nodes can be on different "islands" of the virtual world. " Vice City confirmed (I know LC have same island system)

Edited January 15, 2021 by Disclolume

[GRINCH ASS BITCH]

59 minutes ago, GRANDHEIST said:

https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200338450

This could be Huge

+ there are more patents

Holy moly, that virtual top down view of the map is interesting: 

[Finn_E]

1 minute ago, GRINCH ASS BITCH said:

Holy moly, that virtual top down view of the map is interesting: 

thats OBVIOUSLY just a basketball court 

[GRINCH ASS BITCH]

4 minutes ago, Finn_E said:

thats OBVIOUSLY just a basketball court 

I assume it's just a placeholder for the sake of the patent, but interesting nonetheless.

[Zello]

5 minutes ago, Finn_E said:

thats OBVIOUSLY just a basketball court 

No man that looks like food.

 

Its the realistic steak getting cooked.

[GRANDHEIST]

https://uspto.report/patent/app/20190134511

 

GTA seems to be going MMO direction (emphasis on Massive)

[Middle Class Roadman]

Pretty obvious GTA VI will be intertwined with Online somehow

[Finn_E]

[DarkDayz]

20 hours ago, Patrizio said:

I understand your argument about realism. I'd like to think with new consoles and ten years of preparation they could pull of two different cities with countryside and small towns in between. In my opinion, a single city location again would be a disappointment. I'd buy it - don't get me wrong. But it comes across a bit unambitious and "resigned to the fact" in my opinion.

 

Regarding Chicago, what I mean about major is in terms of their cultural and global appeal. I see you're also from the UK. I reckon if you asked the average Brit what were major US cities they'd say:

 

New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Franciso, Las Vegas, and Washington DC. Possibly then Boston, Philadelphia and San Diego. Out of all of those I'd say Chicago could hold its own in a game (as a single location, even though I don't want that..) as could NYC and LA. Chicago to me is the one major, MAJOR US city they haven't done. Regarding an other IP I see your point but I'd just find it sad if we have a never ending cycle of LC, LS and VC - y'know? VC needs its turn but then they shouldn't shy away from other major US locations. Chicago being the the big one missing.

 

Regarding Miami's size - point taken. Its less relevant now than it was in the past but Vice City has become a staple of GTA lore and canon and that's why it should remain. It has a cultural recognition and unlike other major cities mentioned is tropical and therefore provides a different feel  that other cities can't do (in before VC is too much like LS!).

 

Indeed I am from the UK and I know nothing about Chicago other than its Mafia roots in the 20's and a bit further. Yes you are absolutely right about the list, if I were to make a top 5 US cities I know a bit about, Chicago wouldn't be there. It certainly wouldn't be there if I thought of US cities I think could host good narratives for a GTA game. My only knowledge of it really these days is that it is used a lot by the film industry to replicate New York in films. I just don't see an appeal for it globally. I'd be open for them to do it for sure. I'm not against it at all, I just feel as though right now Miami is preferable - infinitely more rich for a game world because of it's drug history and geolocation at the bottom of USA. But yes, eventually they will need to expand out into other cities.

 

 

18 hours ago, Frivolous_Raven said:

Yep, I'm going to agree with this one... I feel like R* tries to expand more in realism and scale than quantity. I do believe we'll get one city, but bigger, denser, more detailed, immersive, and interactive than ever. The quality over quantity way, I feel like that is more like R*.  

Ok, RDR2 had more towns... but those are towns, come on, Rhodes, Valentine, Armadillo, those are a 1 street town, you can't compare that to LC, VC, LS, which are huge metropolitan areas. 

That's my 2 cents on the matter.

 

Exactly. I think there are ample smaller places surrounding Miami, also tropical locations in south of Miami that could be utilised in a realistic way before we jump straight to having a city from mid America randomly next to Vice City. It just doesn't sit with me at all.

 

 

14 hours ago, Zello said:

 

Las Vegas was ran by the Chicago mob for a time. So an LV/Chicago game makes sense even if they are far apart. Mafia families from all over the country had a presence in Las Vegas. New York families, Chicago families, etc.

 

It's what the TV show crime story made by Michael Mann was about. The Chicago Mafia setting up operations in Las Vegas. Ray Luca's journey from Chicago to Las Vegas was based on Anthony Spilotro a real mobster in the Chicago Mafia. It wasn't as good as Miami Vice but the movie Casino took some inspiration from it as well.

 

San Francisco and Las Venturas actually make less sense for me imo. There's really nothing connecting them together like no shared crime history.

 

The geography connects them. I see what you are saying and it would work great in a linear game where the map is not open, where we could witness smaller segments of multiple cities in a linear way. But we are dealing with open world and Rockstar are trying to realistically portray American cities. I just don't think having Chicago next to Las Vegas on the map is plausible in any way at all, even if narratively it makes sense. If they go for a story similar to what you are saying, then they just use VC and Carribean locations because they are seperated by water geographically, so it benefits the narrative and the realism they try to achieve. Just makes more sense to me!

 

Edited January 15, 2021 by darkdayz

[Zapper]

3 minutes ago, Finn_E said:

I wonder which one of these houses is Preacher's?

Edited January 15, 2021 by Zapper

[Finn_E]

Just now, Zapper said:

I wonder which one of these houses is Preacher's?

Probably the barn in the back

[wise_man]

4 minutes ago, Finn_E said:

Rare image of The Last Fish Supper society's headquarter.

[Disclolume]

[0177] This data establishes exactly which parts of the top description of `high end apartment` are to be used to construct the apartment at `53b Main Street.` Added to this data would be any extra parameters which can be used to potentially modify some of the items where desired: [0178] Apartment 53b, Main Street: [0179] Tiled kitchen floor (colour=white) [0180] Kitchen walls (colour=blue) [0181] Message board (message=`To Do`) [0182] Cupboards [0183] Boxes of cereal (type=`Cornflakes`, number=3) [0184] Lounge Walls (colour=red) [0185] TV stand (material=oak) [0186] Large TV [0187] Couch (colour=purple) [0188] Cushion (colour=purple) [0189] Cushion (colour=orange) [0190] Hall walls (colour=magnolia) [0191] Table (material=pine) [0192] Lamp (colour=blue) [0193] Bedroom walls (colour=magnolia) [0194] Standard bed (material=pine)

Edited January 15, 2021 by Disclolume