Stupid GTA questions

[Carbonox]

Post stupid questions that you'd like to have answers for, but don't wish to clutter up the site with their own thread. You all know you got some.

 

1. Can anyone confirm if there was or was not a VC radio commercial that featured the 1-866-BURY-ME number? No, I'm not confusing it with Pastor Richards' SAVE-ME ad. I feel so thoroughly convinced that I heard it being mentioned like one time, but neither of the Farewell Ranch ads in the comprehensive video (CLICK!) seem to feature it.

2. Once upon a time, I was a gullible kid who thought you could get to Liberty City in San Andreas by flying a plane east of LV, sinking it, going through the ocean floor and respawning. Needless to say, I just ended up back in eastern LV, and that was that... but why is it that on some occasions, while down in the underwater blue hell, I would get a wanted star out of nowhere?

3. The search is killing me, so can anyone pinpoint to me the Highmen Group commercial from TLAD, from a video that contains it or something? I think it was on Liberty Rock Radio.

Edited October 24, 2020 by Carbonox

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27 minutes ago, Carbonox said:

. Can anyone confirm if there was or was not a VC radio commercial that featured the 1-866-BURY-ME number? No, I'm not confusing it with Pastor Richards' SAVE-ME ad. I feel so thoroughly convinced that I heard it being mentioned like one time, but neither of the Farewell Ranch ads in the comprehensive video (CLICK!) seem to feature it.

This link fron gamefaqs which shows the script for all the commercials seems to suggest it is connected to the Farewell Ranch though it's shown in a seperate phone numbers section and not as part of the commercial script

 

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Below are the phone numbers that appear in Vice City.  They are toll free so you
don't have to worry about the phone bill. Since all of them have letters which
are a pain I will also put the numerical number in brackets.

 

1-866-9SAVEME [1-866-972-8363]-Pastor Richard's Salvation Fund

 

1-866-434SELF [1-866-434-7353]-Jeremy Robard's Think Your Way to Sucess

 

1-866-9BURYME [1-866-928-7963]-Farewell Ranch

 

1-800-BEAHERO [1-800-232-4376]-Army

 

1-866-PILLAGE [1-866-745-5243]-Thor

 

1-866-9SHADEE [1-866-974-2333]-D'Leo and Thurax
 

So the number did exist but here it isn't shown in the commercials I think. Sorry if this was not exactly what you were looking for but it's the best I could do, though you could double check yourself reading the script as I may have missed something

Edited October 24, 2020 by Utopianthumbs

[Carbonox]

1 hour ago, Utopianthumbs said:

This link fron gamefaqs which shows the script for all the commercials seems to suggest it is connected to the Farewell Ranch though it's shown in a seperate phone numbers section and not as part of the commercial script

 

So the number did exist but here it isn't shown in the commercials I think. Sorry if this was not exactly what you were looking for but it's the best I could do, though you could double check yourself reading the script as I may have missed something

I think I've already scoured all the gamefaqs scripts, but it's entirely possible I just took notice of how similar the numbers were, and for whatever reason imagined the other one   being said out loud in the voice of Richards or some generic announcer too. (Definitely not the redneck doing the Farewell Ranch ones lol)

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lol, Carbonox I scoured YouTube for the Highmen group commercial and man I feel your pain. Whether it be going through entire radio stations or continually searching for EFLC exclusive commercials which seem to be notoriously hard to find compared to the mainline game commercials, to even going through the TV shows for the commercials there lol, seems like I've found every commercial except that one . Hopefully someone else has better luck with that

 

Anyways a question for y'all. Assuming Johnny doesn't spare Brian in their first encounter what do you think Brian's neighbours made of Johnny occupying the house? Like, their neighbour was heard to have a died a violent death and the door is boarded up but there is still activity in the house and some large dude keeps getting spotted going to and fro the back door, idk if I was the neighbour it would seem pretty suspicious to me. Perhaps the neighbours reported Johnny to the authorities which forced him to flee to Los Santos which lead to his fate 

Edited October 25, 2020 by Utopianthumbs

[LowTierDude]

1 hour ago, Utopianthumbs said:

Anyways a question for y'all. Assuming Johnny doesn't spare Brian in their first encounter what do you think Brian's neighbours made of Johnny occupying the house? Like, their neighbour was heard to have a died a violent death and the door is boarded up but there is still activity in the house and some large dude keeps getting spotted going to and fro the back door, idk if I was the neighbour it would seem pretty suspicious to me. Perhaps the neighbours reported Johnny to the authorities which forced him to flee to Los Santos which lead to his fate 

looking at the district where the house is located in his neighbors were probably just a bunch of crackheads and junkies

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43 minutes ago, DownInThePMs said:

looking at the district where the house is located in his neighbors were probably just a bunch of crackheads and junkies

What if we assume his neighbours were honest blue collar workers? 

[Zello]

1 minute ago, Utopianthumbs said:

What if we assume his neighbours were honest blue collar workers? 

No snitching.

 

They probably don't trust the police anyway and wouldn't call them.

[LowTierDude]

1 hour ago, Zello said:

No snitching.

 

They probably don't trust the police anyway and wouldn't call them.

That or selling out their mothers for their next fix

Edited October 25, 2020 by DownInThePMs

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Speaking of neighbours, Niko and Luis live in the same block or atleast one of Niko's safehouses is there. You think they ever ran into each other after the Gracie and diamonds episode and if they recognized each other, how would you imagine they interact with each other if at all? 

 

A somewhat less hypothetical question - Does Luis run faster than Niko and Johnny run slower or is it the same speed, or? 

Edited October 25, 2020 by Utopianthumbs

[GhettoJesus]

2 hours ago, Utopianthumbs said:

Speaking of neighbours, Niko and Luis live in the same block or atleast one of Niko's safehouses is there. You think they ever ran into each other after the Gracie and diamonds episode and if they recognized each other, how would you imagine they interact with each other if at all? 

i think they would try to avoid eye contact and walk by each other as fast as they can.

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16 minutes ago, GhettoJesus said:

i think they would try to avoid eye contact and walk by each other as fast as they can.

Funny thing is I imagine if they took the time to get to know each other they'd probably bond over their hatred towards Bulgarin and to a lesser extent Gracie lol. Think for Niko anyone that took out Bulgarin is automatically a friend of his. I even think they'd laugh off the bank and museum incidents after the fact

 

Of course all this is just hypothetical, but I think Niko and Luis would gel well if they got to know each other as both are just trying to stay sane and survive in a mad city, unlike say Johnny who though is level headed and business like, I feel his outlaw shtick wouldn't gel as well with them, just imo

Edited October 25, 2020 by Utopianthumbs
Added a bit

[JetNormalGuy]

5 hours ago, Utopianthumbs said:

 

A somewhat less hypothetical question - Does Luis run faster than Niko and Johnny run slower or is it the same speed, or? 

pretty sure they that all 3 of them have the same speed when sprinting, its just the animations that give the illusion that Johnny's a bit slower

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I don't mean to make this thread exclusively into  'Utopian's stupid GTA questions'  but well I thought of another one and I want to ask before I forget lol

 

In Vice City's last mission why did Lance make a whole show of going from Tommy to Sonny's side when a more efficient way would have been to shoot Tommy in the back. Lance of all people should have known how dangerous Tommy was to take head on. Is there any way to justify Lance not doing this other than that it would be an anticlimax lol

[.Ryan.]

During “cleaning the hood” if you use a shotgun and blow the drug dealer’s head off how does Ryder know who he is?

[Americana]

"Damn, CJ! Now we can't recognize him!"

 

*WOOSH*

 

MISSION FAILED.

 

CJ beheaded the drug dealer.

 

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1 hour ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

During “cleaning the hood” if you use a shotgun and blow the drug dealer’s head off how does Ryder know who he is?

Probably by his distinctive neck tattoo that says RYDER=BUSTA

[GhettoJesus]

6 hours ago, Utopianthumbs said:

I don't mean to make this thread exclusively into  'Utopian's stupid GTA questions'  but well I thought of another one and I want to ask before I forget lol

 

In Vice City's last mission why did Lance make a whole show of going from Tommy to Sonny's side when a more efficient way would have been to shoot Tommy in the back. Lance of all people should have known how dangerous Tommy was to take head on. Is there any way to justify Lance not doing this other than that it would be an anticlimax lol

I don't know but this whole "let me give you a speech before I kill you" cliche is so overused in any media. Books, movies, games. When you think about it same can be said for 3 and San Andreas as well.

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9 minutes ago, GhettoJesus said:

I don't know but this whole "let me give you a speech before I kill you" cliche is so overused in any media. Books, movies, games. When you think about it same can be said for 3 and San Andreas as well.

With San Andreas at least they sort of give a reason why Tenpenny didn't shoot Carl in the back, cause he didn't know if Sweet and Cesar were hiding around so he was to paraphrase CJ, feeling a lil exposed (though it's not such a strong argument yeah, but kind of a reason is given anyway) 

 

With Vice City, I liked Lance's betrayal but story wise it's kinda funny, like here's this maniac that's gunned down scores of criminals, I'm about to betray him what do I do? Not shoot him in the back when I can but dramatically walk to the others guys side and try to gun him down after making my betrayal plain and clear to Tommy, he couldve  just shot him at the back of the head and saved a whole lot of trouble and his life, lol

 

Yeah I agree overall the baddie speech is kinda cliche but kinda entertaining too. But still stupid

Edited October 27, 2020 by Utopianthumbs

[billiejoearmstrong8]

I mean Vice City is heavily influenced by Scarface and is a parody of those type of cheesy 80s movies that aren't exactly hyper realistic. Not only do I not mind some cliched stuff like that being in VC, I actually find it fitting and like it  

[Americana]

14 hours ago, Utopianthumbs said:

In Vice City's last mission why did Lance make a whole show of going from Tommy to Sonny's side when a more efficient way would have been to shoot Tommy in the back.

 

"...and Tommy... you should've never turned your back one me..." *POW* ...

 

Rockstar Games...

 

Lead Writer...

 

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Edited October 27, 2020 by Americana

[cerdopalo]

why pulaski didnt kill cj in high noon gta sa mission

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I think the real reason is so the story doesn't end abruptly but if you want an explanation strictly in terms of the story then this explanation by Rhoda is as good as any on this subject I think. 

 

On 3/12/2020 at 5:35 PM, Rhoda said:

Pulaski never had it in him to kill, at least not without Tenpenny holding his reins. He was all mouth. If you think back to the course of the story, Pulaski was really good at being bullish, brutish and loud. Tenpenny was the colder, more calculated conductor. As soon as Pulaski was given a job to do without Tenpenny's supervision, it was curtains. He didn't intend on killing Hernandez. Watching the cutscene again, Pulaski accidentally fired when tackled, and the stray shot happened to kill Hernandez. It was at this point I assume things got "too real" for Pulaski and thought he could just run away, even away from Tenpenny. By the time Tenpenny realised CJ was in fact still alive, Pulaski would be long gone.

 

[Americana]

Grand Theft Auto San Andreas' story doesn't seem that stupid when described like that, but when you play the game it's all so freaking unbeliveably stupid.

 

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On 10/24/2020 at 10:57 PM, Carbonox said:

3. The search is killing me, so can anyone pinpoint to me the Highmen Group commercial from TLAD, from a video that contains it or something? I think it was on Liberty Rock Radio.

I was searching for this too today, and I had no luck. But I did notice that the TLaD guide in gamefaqs was made by a user RARusk, and there is a user with the exact same name here. So @RARusk extremely sorry for bothering you like this but if by chance it is you who made that TLaD guide in gamefaqs, could you help out Carbonox in finding this commercial(if it's possible and not inconvenient for you)? 

 

Anyway another annoying question. In the mission That Special Someone whats the story logic behind Niko and Darko mostly speaking in English? They do speak Serbian in parts but I think the scene would have been interesting if they both spoke entirely in Serbian, I don't think they spoke in English to each other in the war and it would feel more natural and authentic imo if they spoke their native tongue to each other in that mission, though it's not a big or even small deal, just a stupid thought I had

 

Obviously it's more convenient for the player if they speak in English but they could just have had mandatory English subtitles for that conversation anyway. 

[billiejoearmstrong8]

19 minutes ago, Utopianthumbs said:

I was searching for this too today, and I had no luck. But I did notice that the TLaD guide in gamefaqs was made by a user RARusk, and there is a user with the exact same name here. So @RARusk extremely sorry for bothering you like this but if by chance it is you who made that TLaD guide in gamefaqs, could you help out Carbonox in finding this commercial(if it's possible and not inconvenient for you)? 

 

Anyway another annoying question. In the mission That Special Someone whats the story logic behind Niko and Darko mostly speaking in English? They do speak Serbian in parts but I think the scene would have been interesting if they both spoke entirely in Serbian, I don't think they spoke in English to each other in the war and it would feel more natural and authentic imo if they spoke their native tongue to each other in that mission, though it's not a big or even small deal, just a stupid thought I had

 

Obviously it's more convenient for the player if they speak in English but they could just have had mandatory English subtitles for that conversation anyway. 

I think the real reason is just for convenience, they included as much Serbian as they could get away with and still have the scene be followable/make sense without subtitles on. But I guess it could be reasoned that Niko had become very accustomed to speaking English, including with Roman who is apparently more comfortable speaking English than Serbian now, and they'd just been having a conversation in English the whole way there. So it could be that he only switched to Serbian for Darko's benefit and/or because he was feeling particularly emotional at first. But once he became more composed, and also realised Darko can understand English, he happens to continue in English since it's just a natural thing for him to speak in either language now. 

 

I'm quite glad it switched to English for another reason - Michael Hollick's Serbian wasn't the greatest so if they'd done the whole thing in Serbian the overall delivery wouldn't have been as good. They included enough of him speaking in his native language that it still made an impact, but then switching to English for the majority of the dialogue meant his acting could be totally 100% without pronuncation struggles or not fully feeling the meaning as he said the words. 

Edited October 28, 2020 by billiejoearmstrong8

[E Revere]

Why didn't Rockstar get some real Serbian actors to do some foreign language lines for the few Serbian characters that exist in GTA IV instead of forcing English-speaking actors to do them with little phonetic accuracy? Would it have been too much to contact some studio in Serbia for at least the cutscene where Niko confronts Darko? That whole scene would've been so much more powerful if it went through almost entirely in Serbian. Darko has moved around Europe a little bit so he may know have some knowledge of English but to hear him speak it with perfect grammar, good vocabulary and even make use of metaphors just breaks the immersion a little. If getting Serbian voice actors is a bit too far, then they could have at least make him speak English like sh*t, you know, as an actual Eastern European would.

 

Also I should to clarify that I'm not trying to nitpick on this scene. I don't think linguistic differences would've changed its effect on the game drastically, it was just one example of a general but small issue.

Edited October 28, 2020 by E Revere

[RARusk]

3 hours ago, Utopianthumbs said:

I was searching for this too today, and I had no luck. But I did notice that the TLaD guide in gamefaqs was made by a user RARusk, and there is a user with the exact same name here. So @RARusk extremely sorry for bothering you like this but if by chance it is you who made that TLaD guide in gamefaqs, could you help out Carbonox in finding this commercial(if it's possible and not inconvenient for you)? 

 

Anyway another annoying question. In the mission That Special Someone whats the story logic behind Niko and Darko mostly speaking in English? They do speak Serbian in parts but I think the scene would have been interesting if they both spoke entirely in Serbian, I don't think they spoke in English to each other in the war and it would feel more natural and authentic imo if they spoke their native tongue to each other in that mission, though it's not a big or even small deal, just a stupid thought I had

 

Obviously it's more convenient for the player if they speak in English but they could just have had mandatory English subtitles for that conversation anyway. 

You rang?

 

I did some searching but have turned up nothing so far. Besides, I haven't touched TLaD in years having moved on to the current Hitman games. The last time I popped in EFLC was to mess around with TBoGT because it has the best weapons.

On 10/27/2020 at 8:18 AM, Americana said:

"Damn, CJ! Now we can't recognize him!"

 

*WOOSH*

 

MISSION FAILED.

 

CJ beheaded the drug dealer.

 

 

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In Badlands you can fail the mission by shooting off the informant's head since you need to take a picture of the body for Tenpenny.

[GhettoJesus]

2 hours ago, E Revere said:

Why didn't Rockstar get some real Serbian actors to do some foreign language lines for the few Serbian characters that exist in GTA IV instead of forcing English-speaking actors to do them with little phonetic accuracy? Would it have been too much to contact some studio in Serbia for at least the cutscene where Niko confronts Darko? That whole scene would've been so much more powerful if it went through almost entirely in Serbian. Darko has moved around Europe a little bit so he may know have some knowledge of English but to hear him speak it with perfect grammar, good vocabulary and even make use of metaphors just breaks the immersion a little. If getting Serbian voice actors is a bit too far, then they could have at least make him speak English like sh*t, you know, as an actual Eastern European would.

 

Also I should to clarify that I'm not trying to nitpick on this scene. I don't think linguistic differences would've changed its effect on the game drastically, it was just one example of a general but small issue.

It would have been a hassle most likely. Having a new actor just for the cutscene would be dumber, negotiating a Serbian studio (finding one in the first place), flying actors to the place of the recording, cast them, fly them back, pay them (and be lucky enough to find someone who is willing to do the act for the whole game) is just a lot of effort. Albeit I agree, I can't understand why Niko, Roman, Florian and Darko don't speak Serbian to their compatriots.

 

This practice is very common in the media though. In lots of movies (and games) you can count on the people speaking a non-major foreign language with a horrible accent.

Edited October 28, 2020 by GhettoJesus

[String]

In GTA IV is it possible to turn off the GPS voice, with or without but preferably without turning off GPS entirely? Cause it plays over the radio and I find that annoying lol

[GhettoJesus]

5 hours ago, Utopianthumbs said:

In GTA IV is it possible to turn off the GPS voice, with or without but preferably without turning off GPS entirely? Cause it plays over the radio and I find that annoying lol

Yes it is. You will still have your route displayed but the voice won't play. Think it is in the audio settings.