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nicktestbranch

GTA VI Rumored Map Analysis Thread

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Sepp303

Why the new picture from the map is blurry again.

For me it looks like  afake again because of the blurry look even with a bad camera/smartphone how is it possible to make those bad quality pictures.

 

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Volatollotalov
33 minutes ago, ArthurZussman said:

@Arthur Bell I think I found some inconsistencies on the map. The two highways leading to the city, they seem to just fade out of the map, with the left making a sudden curve to the left. Ok, the right one might be a tunnel, but the left one too?

I was looking into it, but got tired of looking to pixels in a screen, but it seems that some buildings are over the road, and this is even more noticeable on the inverted map. Later I'll keep looking at it, but I would appreciate it if someone took a look at these inconsistencies.

 

Yep, I see what you mean. Also, way too many buildings seem to have almost the same color of roof, a very narrow band of white shades. 

 

IF it's a legit map, all those white shapes might not yet even be detailed buildings, just placeholders for them. 

 

Compare that to the final GTA5 map and the more natural variety of building shades and deeper colors, two console generations earlier. 

 

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YNNEL
37 minutes ago, cokebloke said:

ever since it came out, this is the only leak that got me excited during these hard times and I love seeing it again, blowing up this time, kinda reconfirms my belief in it. I keep thinking about that first tweet in 2018 that dropped the first pics, it really doesn't seem like the usual leak. I mean, the guy dropped it in style imo, just a quick short tweet with pics, a year and that's it, no other attention seeking bullshxt, no drama. 1985. you see all these super detailed stories leaking around, accompanied by all sorts of keyboard wars and useless arguing and then you have this simple tweet just sitting there peacefully, with 2 comments and 3 likes, just waiting to be discovered by those who really want to see it. it caught my eye the first time I saw it, it just gives you that GTA vibe and just looks like a proper, detailed map in its early stages. then we get the island pic again on the down low, in a 4chan thread with like 10 replies and the same quiet and efficient modus operandi - drop the pic and escape quietly, no drama, no interactions, post the stuff and let whoever wants to believe, believe. even if it turns out to be fake, I'm enjoying it. I feel that pre-V hype again and I love it. 

Yea I agree. This flew under the radar when it was first posted a couple years back. When you see this whole map in combination it just feels right to me. 
 

There was obviously a lot of nonsense leaks that came out but the whole smuggling drugs from Vice City to South America came up a few times. And this map would be perfect for a story like that.

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Analysis Time

 

I could put this into a much longer post, but the truth is, I don't really care too much. But I see a lot of people commenting on the maps style, visuals, how the city looks the same etc. What I'd suggest is what I've always believed: That IF the map were real, it'd likely be something that was leaked in the wake of the Leslie Benzies situation.

 

After he left, a lot of people went with him, North was restructured, and a lot of people were pissed at Rockstar. They then had numerous unprecedented leaks surrounding RDR2. There has to be a reason for those leaks. Again, I'd wager it has something to do with employees not being happy about how Leslie was fired. Story details for RDR2 were leaked. The map was leaked. Later in March 2018, an anonymous source claimed to leak details for the next Grand Theft Auto, detailing Project Americas. Maybe, just maybe it's possible that this map was a very early - perhaps the first- concept of a map for GTA VI. It would explain it's appearance. It may just be a simple and basic mockup of the map. The road layout isn't there, but a general "This part is city, here's an airport, a stadium, here's Vice Beach, and here's the Everglades, etc, etc..." Before approving it and working on an actual design. maybe this was the map that was proposed in 2016, 2017 when an employee left, who would go on to leak it in spite of how Rockstar cast out their friend.

 

I don't know. Again, just operating on the presumption that it's real. It's very likely fake. But since I can't prove it one way or the other... I kinda' don't really care. But what else is there to discuss, so here we are. I hope it's fake, just so the mapping thread doesn't become like RDR2, matching landmarks with the leaked map.

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Tried my best to recreate the land shape by guessing each pixel lmao (not including cities or roads because they make no sense at all)

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18 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

Analysis Time

 

I could put this into a much longer post, but the truth is, I don't really care too much. But I see a lot of people commenting on the maps style, visuals, how the city looks the same etc. What I'd suggest is what I've always believed: That IF the map were real, it'd likely be something that was leaked in the wake of the Leslie Benzies situation.

 

After he left, a lot of people went with him, North was restructured, and a lot of people were pissed at Rockstar. They then had numerous unprecedented leaks surrounding RDR2. There has to be a reason for those leaks. Again, I'd wager it has something to do with employees not being happy about how Leslie was fired. Story details for RDR2 were leaked. The map was leaked. Later in March 2018, an anonymous source claimed to leak details for the next Grand Theft Auto, detailing Project Americas. Maybe, just maybe it's possible that this map was a very early - perhaps the first- concept of a map for GTA VI. It would explain it's appearance. It may just be a simple and basic mockup of the map. The road layout isn't there, but a general "This part is city, here's an airport, a stadium, here's Vice Beach, and here's the Everglades, etc, etc..." Before approving it and working on an actual design. maybe this was the map that was proposed in 2016, 2017 when an employee left, who would go on to leak it in spite of how Rockstar cast out their friend.

 

I don't know. Again, just operating on the presumption that it's real. It's very likely fake. But since I can't prove it one way or the other... I kinda' don't really care. But what else is there to discuss, so here we are. I hope it's fake, just so the mapping thread doesn't become like RDR2, matching landmarks with the leaked map.

Completely agree with you, this makes the most sense to me atleast

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ArthurZussman
22 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

The road layout isn't there

That was what I stated. It doesn't seem to have a regular street or layout. Its just everything messed up and with no real, believable layout.

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52 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

Later in March 2018, an anonymous source claimed to leak details for the next Grand Theft Auto, detailing Project Americas. Maybe, just maybe it's possible that this map was a very early - perhaps the first- concept of a map for GTA VI. It would explain it's appearance. It may just be a simple and basic mockup of the map. The road layout isn't there, but a general "This part is city, here's an airport, a stadium, here's Vice Beach, and here's the Everglades, etc, etc..." Before approving it and working on an actual design. maybe this was the map that was proposed in 2016, 2017 when an employee left, who would go on to leak it in spite of how Rockstar cast out their friend.

 

If it's real I totally agree that it can only be a super-early concept map. It wouldn't take more than half a dozen people a few weeks to make an outline of something that presumably would be orders of magnitude better in quality than the potato pics we see here. 

 

Also it would have been drawn-up well before next-gen specs were confirmed to studios. So if it's legit, it represents the headline idea rather than the settled substance of the next game. As I've said before, the more advanced the game gets in development the more people it is exposed to in the ever-expanding tree of development teams and support staff who get involved, up to an eventual cast of thousands and thousands. So, like a stream approaching a waterfall, it speeds up and grows in only one direction and we have an ever-increasing chance that some information or other will splash out of line - information that might or might not confirm what we see today.

 

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RenegadeAngel

Real or not, I'm just happy we have something to discuss. It's been extremely dry lately info-wise; even the speculation thread that's practically always active was on the brink of dying.

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12 minutes ago, small_E said:

Tried my best to recreate the land shape by guessing each pixel lmao (not including cities or roads because they make no sense at all)

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Completely agree with you, this makes the most sense to me atleast

this is very nice. good job. crazy how similar it looks to the map of GTA V. maybe whoever made it was inspired by it?

 

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4 minutes ago, Eternal Moonshine said:

this is very nice. good job. crazy how similar it looks to the map of GTA V. maybe whoever made it was inspired by it?

 

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That’s a nice comparison, It really does look similar to Vs map and I bet whoever made it took inspiration from V as well.

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Volatollotalov
11 minutes ago, small_E said:

That’s a nice comparison, It really does look similar to Vs map and I bet whoever made it took inspiration from V as well.

Yeah, I think that kind of seals the fate of this leak. It's too similar to Five, it's unambitious, too careful. Too lazy and uncreative. 

 

Even if it were presented just as a concept, surely it wouldn't have been good enough even in 2018.

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nicktestbranch
1 hour ago, Eternal Moonshine said:

this is very nice. good job. crazy how similar it looks to the map of GTA V. maybe whoever made it was inspired by it?

 

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That compares nicely, I see why many pointed out its similar, and perhaps uninspiring shape when setup next to GTA V's map. The big killer for me here is seeing where the rivers lead on both maps; they both break off of a large body of water to the west, and into the ocean.

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MrPayne508

I'm hoping this is not real. There are parts that I like. The city, highways, the bay area are all great looking but instead of expanding the map further south I'd be much happier if the north area featured some farmlands and the main city would be situated somewhere in the middle. And some pine forest would be great

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Retitled the thread as it comes off as sounding more like we have a credible leak when I meant to make this more of an analysis for all users to chime in on the rumored leak and continue discussion should other rumored maps come in. This wasn't meant to be an analysis of the map compared to whatever else we have of GTA VI, since the game has not even been officially announced yet. I apologize if it came off as clickbaity yesterday.

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Amazing write-up but my big question is, if this is real, why do the pictures look like they were taken in 2003? The RDR2 map leak isn't crystal clear but you can clearly make out features and words, here it's very difficult to make out anything besides highways and airports. The MSPaint-like outline is pretty hilarious too and not something you would expect from Rockstar at all.

 

That being said, I'm a little more convinced of this being a legitimate leak than when I saw this map in 2018. Who knows, in a couple of years I could be biting my words and this could end up being what we get.

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Volatollotalov
22 hours ago, Arthur Bell said:

Retitled the thread as it comes off as sounding more like we have a credible leak when I meant to make this more of an analysis for all users to chime in on the rumored leak and continue discussion should other rumored maps come in. This wasn't meant to be an analysis of the map compared to whatever else we have of GTA VI, since the game has not even been officially announced yet. I apologize if it came off as clickbaity yesterday.

 

I think you're a victim of your own success.

 

In the absence of any other information you did an an amazing job and this isn't at all clickbaity. 

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RighteousMind369

I bet the map is real. I remember all the experts here dismissing the RDR2 map back then too lmao

 

We gotta acknowledge how f*cking gargantuan the map is tho. Just one island is the size of Vs map and thats not including Cuba or South America.

I feel the distance between VC and South america is perfect too. Really makes it feel like you're travelling from one continent to the other. Drug smuggling missions are gonna be instense and require a lot more preparation and planning than they do in GTAO it seems like. 

 

Im actually kind of hyped :D

8 hours ago, NorthOfVarnen said:

I don’t know, the main island just looks way to small tbh. I would’ve expected more from a next gen GTA game of this sort. This can’t be it.

I dont get posts like these. The main island alone is a little bigger than GTAVs and that map is still considered huge today. With next gen technology, maybe they wanna focus more on actual density and not just having a huge map for hugeness' sake? It seems like the perfect size to me

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1 hour ago, RighteousMind369 said:

I dont get posts like these. The main island alone is a little bigger than GTAVs and that map is still considered huge today. With next gen technology, maybe they wanna focus more on actual density and not just having a huge map for hugeness' sake? It seems like the perfect size to me

If we’re going by Arthur Bell’s own calculations the size difference is close to none. It only takes about 5 minutes to travel from south LS to Paleto Bay with a fast car, even less if you’re flying. That kinda breaks the immersion a bit if you ask me.

 

Bigger map doesn’t have to mean compromises in density and detail. Why can’t there be both?

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57 minutes ago, NorthOfVarnen said:

If we’re going by Arthur Bell’s own calculations the size difference is close to none. It takes about 5 minutes to travel from south LS to Paleto Bay with a fast car, even less if you’re flying. That kinda breaks the immersion a bit if you ask me.

 

Bigger map doesn’t have to mean compromises in density and detail. Why can’t there be both?

Because the map IS bigger and looks to be considerably dense and better designed than the V map.

 

The issue you pointed out with the time it takes to get to PB from LS is due to poor map design. V's map is literally just and oval with a highway encompassing it. They lead nowhere but back to LS or PB. And we dont know how vehicle speeds will fare in GTAVI as compared to V so that argument is pretty much null and void.

 

Take into account that we are comparing just ONE island. and that alone is the size of GTAV and the highways look better designed and more thought out than they were in GTAV

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11 minutes ago, RighteousMind369 said:

Because the map IS bigger and looks to be considerably dense and better designed than the V map.

 

The issue you pointed out with the time it takes to get to PB from LS is due to poor map design. V's map is literally just and oval with a highway encompassing it. They lead nowhere but back to LS or PB. And we dont know how vehicle speeds will fare in GTAVI as compared to V so that argument is pretty much null and void.

 

Take into account that we are comparing just ONE island. and that alone is the size of GTAV and the highways look better designed and more thought out than they were in GTAV

 

I agree. You could cross the entire GTA 5 map with the highway but in this case you’ll literally have to fly a plane or drive a boat to get to other parts of it. The island that has Vice City already is nearly as big as all of GTA 5, and Vice City looks FAR more dense than Los Santos. Whereas Los Santos had wide streets, this is far more comparable to Liberty City.

 

Plus let’s not forget things like interiors, the amount of depth, side activities, random events, etc. Had Los Santos simply had several more interiors it would’ve felt twice as large in my view. If Red Dead Redemption 2 is anything to judge by, GTA 6 will probably have more interiors than GTA 5. Also GTA 6 won’t be made under the intense technical limitations GTA 5 faced. So with much better hardware Rockstar will be able to make more content instead of cramming everything into 256 MB of RAM. That leaves room for more interiors, more things going on, etc. that’ll make the world more alive and feel bigger.

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Collibosher
19 minutes ago, RighteousMind369 said:

Take into account that we are comparing just ONE island. and that alone is the size of GTAV and the highways look better designed and more thought out than they were in GTAV

What highways are better designed?

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GTAhare
Just now, Collibosher said:

What highways are better designed?

Unlike GTA 5 where you could literally go around the entire map with the highways, with this map to reach the other islands you’ll need either a plane or a boat. GTA 5 had a fairly large map even for today’s standards, it’s just that it was very easy to cross with the highway. Here you won’t be able to do that, so already the map will not only be bigger but FEEL bigger too

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10 minutes ago, GTAhare said:

 

I agree. You could cross the entire GTA 5 map with the highway but in this case you’ll literally have to fly a plane or drive a boat to get to other parts of it. The island that has Vice City already is nearly as big as all of GTA 5, and Vice City looks FAR more dense than Los Santos. Whereas Los Santos had wide streets, this is far more comparable to Liberty City.

 

Plus let’s not forget things like interiors, the amount of depth, side activities, random events, etc. Had Los Santos simply had several more interiors it would’ve felt twice as large in my view. If Red Dead Redemption 2 is anything to judge by, GTA 6 will probably have more interiors than GTA 5. Also GTA 6 won’t be made under the intense technical limitations GTA 5 faced. So with much better hardware Rockstar will be able to make more content instead of cramming everything into 256 MB of RAM. That leaves room for more interiors, more things going on, etc. that’ll make the world more alive and feel bigger.

I would kill for more interiors. It made me sad that we couldn’t enter places like Burger Shot in GTA V. Hopefully as you say this won’t be a problem now with the new hardware.

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GTAhare
Just now, NorthOfVarnen said:

I would kill for more interiors. It made me sad that we couldn’t enter places like Burger Shot in GTA V. Hopefully as you say this won’t be a problem now with the new hardware.

 

I agree. GTA 5 would feel a lot bigger with more interiors. Hopefully GTA 6 will fix that issue!

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RighteousMind369
8 minutes ago, Collibosher said:

What highways are better designed?

i was just talking about the fact that it isnt a nascar track encompassing homer simpson's head. That alone seems to be a major improvement but alas it still to early to tell and we dont even know definitively if this map is legit or not

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1 minute ago, GTAhare said:

Unlike GTA 5 where you could literally go around the entire map with the highways, with this map to reach the other islands you’ll need either a plane or a boat. GTA 5 had a fairly large map even for today’s standards, it’s just that it was very easy to cross with the highway. Here you won’t be able to do that, so already the map will not only be bigger but FEEL bigger too

What do you think about that "airport" on this fake map, even the 3D era Vice City has more realistically shaped runway? This fake airport only consists of runaway and nothing else, no hangars or anything. A map that size, with such a large "city" the airport should be massive, not a size of the sandy shores desert runaway.

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Just now, Collibosher said:

What do you think about that "airport" on this fake map, even the 3D era Vice City has more realistically shaped runway? This fake airport only consists of runaway and nothing else, no hangars or anything. A map that size, with such a large "city" the airport should be massive, not a size of the sandy shores desert runaway.

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I actually think that (if this is real) Rockstar once again pulled a Zelda team and overcorrected. GTA 5 was criticized for having a massive airport whereas the actual city area was moderately sized so they could’ve decided to make the airport smaller and focus more on urban areas.

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31 minutes ago, NorthOfVarnen said:

If we’re going by Arthur Bell’s own calculations the size difference is close to none. It takes about 5 minutes to travel from south LS to Paleto Bay with a fast car, even less if you’re flying. That kinda breaks the immersion a bit if you ask me.

 

Bigger map doesn’t have to mean compromises in density and detail. Why can’t there be both?

I'd say usually bigger maps have to compromise in detail and many other stuff related to gameplay and graphics presentations if the development time is not enough or technology is not there to justify it.For example some people still complain about gta v's map feel too empty to this day despite having a bigger one than iv's,games like assassin's creed odyssey featuring a map several times over unity's but the detail of its cities and natural environment feeling quite lame,and the graphics is not that good in certain areas,even comparing to its fellow ac origins, the lod and map detail design of odyssey is a joke,let alone facing a "small" map size game like rdr2....While ubisoft's problem may can't be resolved without increasing essential development time,I think we can't say the same can't be applied to r*'s works either.And when coming down to gta games there have to be more compromises:since in this game you can literally travel to everywhere seamlessly,ruining life of thousands of npcs from vice city to carcer city nonstop,escaping from cops and soliders by planes with your teammates while a rapid hurricane is approaching you,all requires insane game assets loading in realtime,if the details and destiny is vastly increased I really can't imagine the insane requirements of development time and technology stuff.I hope with new generation machines many scenes won't be a wild dream anymore.

But seriously,if someone tells me next game featuring a map which is only a bit bigger than gta v's,no matter what you want to justify it even it's fill with things to do,it will be one of the biggest disappointment of generations.Cities&wildness smaller than gta v's,distance almost non-existent from countrysides to cities,it's not red dead auto vi(rdr2's map is actually a bit small if I have to say),you seriously think you won't get bored of it after less than one year after wait the damn game for 10 years?Come on...

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To everyone assuming this absolutely can't be fake because it has a throwback to an alleged leak from two years ago: remember when people thought this map was real because the outline of the main island fitted in with the ripped out portion of the "Liberty City, it's over!" poster? Because yeah, anyone can remember an older leak / speculative topic and replicate it to add an extra layer of credibility.

 

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1 hour ago, ADropInTheOcean said:

To everyone assuming this absolutely can't be fake because it has a throwback to an alleged leak from two years ago: remember when people thought this map was real because the outline of the main island fitted in with the ripped out portion of the "Liberty City, it's over!" poster? Because yeah, anyone can remember an older leak / speculative topic and replicate it to add an extra layer of credibility.

 

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But you can tell this is fake from the street layout 

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