GTA VI ""Leaks"" Analysis Thread

[nicktestbranch]

2 hours ago, universetwisters said:

 

But why would they model (or make up a fake satellite image) for half of the island while leaving the other half bare af?

I think in the assumption that it's elaborate hoax, it was out of extreme boredom. In the sense that it's real, I think it's because the half of the island that was finished was rendered first and they were working on more as they decided on what to do with that area. I'm not entirely sure yet the justification, but I think they prioritized in making the city and island parts primarily because of how much of the story takes place within them.

[Americana]

Hmm, also the streets aren't random, you can clearly see that highways are connected to each other in the city. 

 

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Edited October 12, 2020 by Americana

[universetwisters]

2 minutes ago, Arthur Bell said:

I think in the assumption that it's elaborate hoax, it was out of extreme boredom. In the sense that it's real, I think it's because the half of the island that was finished was rendered first and they were working on more as they decided on what to do with that area. I'm not entirely sure yet the justification, but I think they prioritized in making the city and island parts primarily because of how much of the story takes place within them.

 

Game devs don’t work like that. They’ll block the whole map out with lowpoly models, simple blocks etc and then detail it as they go along (look at prealpha mafia 3 footage and bully 2 concepts)

 

If anything this just confirms it to be a hoax

[nicktestbranch]

4 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

 

Game devs don’t work like that. They’ll block the whole map out with lowpoly models, simple blocks etc and then detail it as they go along (look at prealpha mafia 3 footage and bully 2 concepts)

 

If anything this just confirms it to be a hoax

I am looking at it again, and I'm now in belief that we don't know the rest of the map even from the image. In looking at the 1985 version, it's just a zoomed in version of what's detailed, and what may be all that existed at the time. Based on your hunch, I would then assume that we don't know what the rest of the map surrounding that corner is, and whoever leaked or faked it drew the low-detail around it. So I still believe the map is likely legitimate, though only part of it is. The low-detail San Andreas-like portion I can't make my mind on since it isn't rendered.

[Middle Class Roadman]

3 hours ago, Arthur Bell said:

This is my best take on this potentially leaked map. The earliest reference I can find of it on the GTA Forums is dating back to December 2018.

This one was the one posted in the thread, showing what we are guessing to be Vice City, swamplands, and an island off the coast to the West.

 

 -snip-

 

Outstanding work - I personally think this is something of substance.

[Eternal Moonshine]

Oh god not this map again. xD I'm tempted to go through satellite photos of the US just to put this one to rest. There's less than zero percent chance that this map is real and I solemnly swear that I will delete my account if I'm wrong

[Middle Class Roadman]

I personally think that the map is 110% real.

[Punkd]

5 minutes ago, Eternal Moonshine said:

Oh god not this map again. xD I'm tempted to go through satellite photos of the US just to put this one to rest. There's less than zero percent chance that this map is real and I solemnly swear that I will delete my account if I'm wrong

Less than 0%? I agree its probably more "fanmade" than "a leak", but i wouldnt say 0%

Just look at the leaked red dead 2 map, it also sth someone could have simply done as "fan art / fan fiction"

[PacVCF10]

7 minutes ago, Eternal Moonshine said:

Oh god not this map again. xD I'm tempted to go through satellite photos of the US just to put this one to rest. There's less than zero percent chance that this map is real and I solemnly swear that I will delete my account if I'm wrong

Just do it, like the slogan, the sooner possible fakes are discovered the better.

I think it may be true, I have been looking for how much the V map measures in width and length, but I have not found anything true, it would be nice to be able to compare both.

[nicktestbranch]

10 minutes ago, Eternal Moonshine said:

Oh god not this map again. xD I'm tempted to go through satellite photos of the US just to put this one to rest. There's less than zero percent chance that this map is real and I solemnly swear that I will delete my account if I'm wrong

Honestly I would love it if people did go through satellite photos of the US to put this one to rest. It would crush my theory that there isn't a satellite image that matches it by much, and I'd be willing to see this thread come to an end. I so far haven't found a satellite image that closely resembles this.

[Americana]

I mean, it does look like some images put together, also it looks like poo... but who knows, the rest of this map is just a picture made in Paint.

 

But... it somewhat looks like a condensed version of Miami.

 

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Edited October 12, 2020 by Americana

[GTAhare]

 I speculate that Orlando could be in the game, and either be markers 1 or 2 on the map. In the case of two that could be taking liberties with Bay Lake. I speculate Orlando could be a smaller, secondary area that’ll have Disneyworld. Rockstar already toyed with a theme park somewhat in GTA 5, it’s very possible they’ll include Orlando as a smaller area just to have a satire on Disney, and Rockstar making fun of them and their park would be golden. There is the issue of a theme park making the lack of children apparent but there already should of been children wanting to go on the roller coaster in 5, so yeah. Of course this entire map could very well be fake but it’s also not impossible for it to be real. If it’s real I’d say there’s a 50/50 chance it’ll have Orlando. As stated above it’ll be a small “secondary city” primarily featured to host Disneyworld, which will be filled with satire about Disney.

 

Of course however we could just be getting a couple small towns bigger than the ones in GTA 5.

 

And if this map is fake I’d still say that if GTA 6 will contain other parts of Florida then just Vice City, it’s still very possible. A Disney parody already exists in the HD universe (Fred Quincy.) I actually speculate that the Quincy stuff in GTA 5 meant that very early on Rockstar was at least considering Anaheim on the drawing board but it got dropped.

6 minutes ago, Arthur Bell said:

Honestly I would love it if people did go through satellite photos of the US to put this one to rest. It would crush my theory that there isn't a satellite image that matches it by much, and I'd be willing to see this thread come to an end. I so far haven't found a satellite image that closely resembles this.

Congrats on being open to the map being fake. I know some people would dogmatically assert a fake map is real because they spent time speculating but you on the other hand are being honest about it. Thanks!

[Eternal Moonshine]

16 minutes ago, Punkd said:

Less than 0%? I agree its probably more "fanmade" than "a leak", but i wouldnt say 0%

Just look at the leaked red dead 2 map, it also sth someone could have simply done as "fan art / fan fiction"

Have you seen the mountains in the drawing? They look like they were drawn by a 10 year old. I refuse to believe that Rockstar employ children to lower the cost of designing their games. I'm only half joking. RDR2 map seemed fake because it looked like someone took RDR1 map and built upon it to make it more believable. Understandably it was sus.

But this just looks like a kid's drawing. I'm yet to see any argument that would convince me otherwise

 

 

15 minutes ago, PacVCF10 said:

Just do it, like the slogan, the sooner possible fakes are discovered the better.

I think it may be true, I have been looking for how much the V map measures in width and length, but I have not found anything true, it would be nice to be able to compare both.

I already did that a couple of months ago but i couldn't find anything that would prove it was made from satellite photos, So I gave up. To cross-reference it with satellite photos of Miami is a huge task in itself. If I wanted to go state wide it would probably be faster to just wait for Rockstar to release GTA 6

Edited October 12, 2020 by Eternal Moonshine

[ArthurZussman]

3 minutes ago, Eternal Moonshine said:

Have you seen the mountains in the drawing? They look like they were drawn by a 10 year old. I refuse to believe that Rockstar employ children to lower the cost of designing their games

But the drawings completing the map were supposed made by the leaker itself to complement the map, not a Rockstar employee

 

[anizawa]

This might be our big break after all, great post, OP.

[Eternal Moonshine]

2 minutes ago, ArthurZussman said:

But the drawings completing the map were supposed made by the leaker itself to complement the map, not a Rockstar employee

 

Supposedly. But even ignoring the drawing, the map looks too much like a satellite photos montage and not like it was rendered using a game engine. Plus the city has a weird layout, doesn't look like something designed by Rockstar 

[Punkd]

7 minutes ago, Eternal Moonshine said:

Have you seen the mountains in the drawing? They look like they were drawn by a 10 year old. I refuse to believe that Rockstar employ children to lower the cost of designing their games. I'm only half joking. RDR2 map seemed fake because it looked like someone took RDR1 map and built upon it to make it more believable. Understandably it was sus.

But this just looks like a kid's drawing. I'm yet to see any argument that would convince me otherwise

 

 

I already did that a couple of months ago but i couldn't find anything that would prove it was made from satellite photos, So I gave up. To cross-reference it with satellite photos of Miami is a huge task in itself. If I wanted to go state wide it would probably be faster to just wait for Rockstar to release GTA 6

 

3 minutes ago, ArthurZussman said:

But the drawings completing the map were supposed made by the leaker itself to complement the map, not a Rockstar employee

 

This. we have this "1985" map the leaker took a quick photo of, the rest of the map is just a quick drawing he made of how the rest of the map looks like, but he couldnt take a photo of the rest. And now the new picture got leaked what is showing us a high detailed island and what looks exactly like what he tried to paint earlier

[Collibosher]

3 minutes ago, Punkd said:

Less than 0%? I agree its probably more "fanmade" than "a leak", but i wouldnt say 0%

Just look at the leaked red dead 2 map, it also sth someone could have simply done as "fan art / fan fiction"

There's nothing obvious wrong about the leaked rdr2 map itself, while here the whole map design is insane and nothing like the previous GTA maps or video game maps in general. That city is huge and except for the airport and arena, consists nothing but buildings, while usually GTA maps have varying "texture" around the city. 

[Americana]

Also, there are many parks in Rockstar's cities, and here there are... none?

 

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Edited October 12, 2020 by Americana

[Punkd]

2 minutes ago, Eternal Moonshine said:

Supposedly. But even ignoring the drawing, the map looks too much like a satellite photos montage and not like it was rendered using a game engine. Plus the city has a weird layout, doesn't look like something designed by Rockstar 

You know this game called gta 5 ? Where r* intentionally used a "google maps/satelitte" view for loading the map or switching the characters?

[Eternal Moonshine]

Just now, Punkd said:

 

This. we have this "1985" map the leaker took a quick photo of, the rest of the map is just a quick drawing he made of how the rest of the map looks like, but he couldnt take a photo of the rest. And now the new picture got leaked what is showing us a high detailed island and what looks exactly like what he tried to paint earlier

But as I said, this part doesn't look like a rendering. It looks like a digitally altered satellite photo

[Midnight Hitman]

Are you guys serious? The transition between city and countryside looks awful. Fake is hell.

[Eternal Moonshine]

1 minute ago, Punkd said:

You know this game called gta 5 ? Where r* intentionally used a "google maps/satelitte" view for loading the map or switching the characters?

Satellite photo

Satellite view rendered in a game engine

 

Two completely different things.

[DennyMcClane]

guys, irrefutable proof that this is a real map from Rockstar will be an object resembling a phallus or tits... so let's look closer
Like it was on rdr2 leaked map

Edited October 12, 2020 by DennyMcClane

[Midnight Hitman]

8 minutes ago, DennyMcClane said:

guys, irrefutable proof that this is a real map from Rockstar will be an object resembling a phallus or tits... Like it was on rdr2 leaked map

 

Maybe this time it will be a nice pink female balloon knot.

[Americana]

Yeah, well - to be honest, this Red Dead Redemption II leaked map looks fake, too.

 

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[Razed-]

I believe that the "GTAVI" map shared in this thread is completely fake. As someone that lives in Miami, I feel like the scale is completely weird. Miami is supposed to stretch way further down past the Miami Beach / Key Biscayne islands on the right. The transition between city and countryside seems fake with little to no effort put into it. If Rockstar were doing a re-imagined Vice City then they would most likely add the surrounding areas as well and scale it properly like they did with Los Santos. It would probably be more like this as opposed to the images posted on that twitter account in which the city cuts off and there is a really long stretch of land to the bottom. The long stretch of land should only be towards the left of the map. The Los Santos map is accurate in terms of shape when put next to the Los Angeles map so that's why I think Rockstar wouldn't mess this up.
 

7 hours ago, Arthur Bell said:

This image was also posted on the same day, December 19, 2018. Noticeably, only part of the map is detailed with the rest being laid out in what appears to be an inconsistent style that looks like the beginning of a fanmade GTA San Andreas map. However, this image recently came up again, and the following picture came out on October 9, 2020 on a 4chan thread. 

What's the source on that 4chan thread? (https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/527916903/an-island)

It was created on Oct 9, 2020 and only has ten posts with zero references to GTA in the entire thread. There is a very, very slim chance that someone saw it in the sea of dozens of threads that get posted every second and went "Oh! That's from the GTA VI map leak on Twitter! Let me post it on GTAForums and Reddit for everyone!". This means that whoever provided the source is the person behind this fake leak. So I'm curious about the source now.

Edited October 13, 2020 by Razed-

[Lysoformic]

are we really arguing if it's fake or real? It's mega fake for the love of god! Hahaha

Edited October 13, 2020 by Lysoformic

[universetwisters]

4 hours ago, Arthur Bell said:

I am looking at it again, and I'm now in belief that we don't know the rest of the map even from the image. In looking at the 1985 version, it's just a zoomed in version of what's detailed, and what may be all that existed at the time. Based on your hunch, I would then assume that we don't know what the rest of the map surrounding that corner is, and whoever leaked or faked it drew the low-detail around it. So I still believe the map is likely legitimate, though only part of it is. The low-detail San Andreas-like portion I can't make my mind on since it isn't rendered.

 

I'd also like to think that the transition between city + countryside looking fake as hell (like someone played with the opacity setting in photoshop) and seemingly nonsensical city map being very reminiscent of the "unreachable" parts of the NFS Undercover map (i.e. just random top down city pics) are other big indicators of it being a blatantly obvious fake.

[RedDagger]

8 hours ago, Arthur Bell said:

Honestly I would love it if people did go through satellite photos of the US to put this one to rest. It would crush my theory that there isn't a satellite image that matches it by much, and I'd be willing to see this thread come to an end. I so far haven't found a satellite image that closely resembles this.

It's unlikely to be taken from one specific place, you can spend a couple hours in photoshop and bash together various sources to create something like this - you don't have to care about the details since, well, the image is blurred to hell and back, so quality isn't going to be a barrier here.