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GTA VI ""Leaks"" Analysis Thread


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Just to give my opinion, I believe the city is too dense for a videogame like GTA, even for 2020 (or 2018) standards, and that's not even mentioning the size of the map. Can Rockstar add enough content in the game to justify that size and density? The game would not only have to be huge in terms of story, but also have a huge plethora of side content and activities so the map can be used efficiently. Now judging by the content in RDR2, that wouldn't be a big problem, however no previous Rockstar game has seemed to have a city as dense as this, which would require the content to be handled in a different way. Due to this reason alone, and without analyzing the map in detail which would certainly reveal other problems, I'm inclined to believe it is a fake leak.

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On 10/16/2020 at 7:39 PM, Viceportcoke said:

Lol hey neighbor... Im only 5 mins away from there and its not that bad.

Lol sup neighbor... Im basically on 441 and Sheridan and that beam messes me up sometimes... 

 

My girl like to go outside and starfaze and there goes that beam lol... On cloudy nights it looks like aliens lol

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Updating the thread. I began analyzing this a month ago but lost interest, and seeing the Forum is spinning its wheels again I felt like bringing up another highly-likely fake leak that I cannot corroborate to anything.

 

This comes from a post that showed up on the fifth page of this thread a month ago. I may end up analyzing this for fun and hearing every reason it's not real. See below:

 

  

On 10/14/2020 at 3:59 PM, The Mexican From Vice said:

 

The URL leads to this image:

 

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Something I somehow didn't catch the last time was that the "Mexican from Vice" is referring to a supposed character leak that I will source later in this spoiler box.

 

At this time I really, really doubt this map's credibility. "Miami/Vice" is literally the same satellite image I grabbed from Google Maps to compare it to the map in the first spoiler box. When I tested the Vestawa map out in Paint.NET to adjust brightness settings, and what struck this as an unusual attempt at a fake is that it's nearly impossible to see the monitor frames, let alone the rest of the room. If we pretend it's a Rockstar Employee, they purposely lit up their screen bright and dimmed the brightness on what is presumably a phone. It's pretty bad though. The image consists of two shots of the same screen, combined into one composite I guess to give it some variables in case one blurrier shot makes it harder to analyze how fake it is?

 

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The island on the bottom left corner is Marquesas Keys/Mooney Harbor, slightly west of Key West itself. Again, I'm not sure why it's being referenced with a convenient yellow circle as I don't believe it lines up with anything on Vestawa Island either.

 

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There's not really as much to look into deeply. I'd like to see someone colour-correct the island and eliminate the squares, or redraw the map as well as its remote islands. I can't tell if Vestawa Island is supposed to be a central American location. Out of curiosity, I talked to GTA_VI_LEAK on Reddit (I don't believe they're credible, just an oddly dedicated fan keeping the lie open) about this map, asking if the system used in squaring was based on anything similar he saw in his "line of work."

 

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"The Map." I think previously GTA_VI_Leak debunked the older map based on the one he had seen; I don't have a source for it. However, he says he has seen the map consisting of Carcer City, Liberty City, and Vice City, which can be flown or driven to. Similar to the zoom out effect on the three characters in GTA V, the camera system detects how far you've driven/flown to those locations, and basically teleports you when you've past the coordinates. It reminds me a bit of how flying to Liberty City in GTA San Andreas in the one mission teleports you to the interior for the remainder of it. So GTA_VI_Leak still posts promising a "big update" in a few days or so (sound familiar?) and I implore someone who has experience with drawing fan maps to reach out to him.

 

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Now, I'm not asking for someone to troll him. Instead, I would actually like to see their vision laid out as they claim it looks, and in the best GTA Forums presentation we can give it. Whether it's real or fake, it gives us something regardless. What else do you think armchair detectives do when police release a sketch of someone? This is what their map looks like currently. Totally detailed.

 

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For context, click this spoiler, it's sourced from this post:

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I get this is not the standard most people were expecting, but, as I’ve mentioned before, I’m no artist. This is really good by my standards ‘:).

Edit: let me explain it briefly. The city to the bottom left is Vice City. To the right is Cottonmouth. There is no briefer between me, that’s my impression of the highway between them. Swamp lands are to the south and surrounding areas. There’s a lot of country land around the state.

The top left city is Carcer City. I’ve used boxes to represent the towns and cities. Across the bridge to the right is Liberty City. To the north, there’s a small forest and mountainous range. To the very right from Cottonmouth to Liberty is an extremely long highway. From the size of the rest of the map, I can only assume this highway is ginormous. You can drive across this, but it’s very rigid. You can’t stray off. Attempt to fly over and you’ll zoom.

The other highways and roads with the lines over them will zoom you when you attempt to drive on them. When you zoom between the North and South, toke will pass six hours.

I didn’t draw it because I’m not sure what it will look like, but underneath the South is South America. In between the two is an expansive sea.

Edit Edit: I don’t know what the town between Carcer City and Liberty City is. I’ve seen the map (though I’m sure it will change slightly before the final version is released), and there was no explanation for that range.

Edit Edit Edit: to whomever suggested this was actually a marketing strategy and I was supposed to ‘leak’ this information, hopefully this crude sketch will show you otherwise.

Edit Edit Edit Edit: I might get a friend to create the map digitally in good detail if that’s something you guys would be interested in.

 

Back to the Mexican from Vice. It's a one-day profile, came for a visit just to post that image, and left. Since I can't see their IP address or analyze origin, nothing will come up. Reverse searching Vestawa Island comes up nothing.

 

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I still believe that concept is bogus but it's fascinating, would love to see fan renditions of it. So much for this post dedicated to Vestawa Island, but I'm left with only three possibilities:

 

1. It's fake

2. It's real

3. It's real, but it's actually the map for Far Cry 6.

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On 10/22/2020 at 10:19 AM, José_Sócrates said:

Just to give my opinion, I believe the city is too dense for a videogame like GTA, even for 2020 (or 2018) standards, and that's not even mentioning the size of the map. Can Rockstar add enough content in the game to justify that size and density? The game would not only have to be huge in terms of story, but also have a huge plethora of side content and activities so the map can be used efficiently. Now judging by the content in RDR2, that wouldn't be a big problem, however no previous Rockstar game has seemed to have a city as dense as this, which would require the content to be handled in a different way. Due to this reason alone, and without analyzing the map in detail which would certainly reveal other problems, I'm inclined to believe it is a fake leak.

You're forgetting one thing...GTAO2.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if whatever we do get is even more dense. They're going to make the main city as future-proof as possible since they know this time around the GTAO formula has immense staying power.

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I like a lot of what that reddit guy is saying but some of it sounds way too BS to me. Carcer City in GTA...A female protagonist, who’s a corrupt cop? How is that even gonna work? That’s just asking for ludonarrative dissonance. Also LC and VC in the same map? Makes no sense at all. VC is way too far from LC, I know maps are condensed but not that condensed it would hurt believability. 

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31 minutes ago, Cheatz/Trickz said:

I like a lot of what that reddit guy is saying but some of it sounds way too BS to me. Carcer City in GTA...A female protagonist, who’s a corrupt cop? How is that even gonna work? That’s just asking for ludonarrative dissonance. Also LC and VC in the same map? Makes no sense at all. VC is way too far from LC, I know maps are condensed but not that condensed it would hurt believability. 

ludonarrative dissonance is something that rockstar does. Or you think Michael or Franklin goes on a killing spree without apparent reason?

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15 minutes ago, ArthurZussman said:

ludonarrative dissonance is something that rockstar does. Or you think Michael or Franklin goes on a killing spree without apparent reason?


Michael and Franklin (hell, even Trevor) would not do it for no reason, but as all are criminals Rockstar are not asking for the dissonance.
 

But having a cop is asking for it, because unlike all previous protagonists a cop is supposed to stop criminal behaviour not cause it.

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1 hour ago, wise_man said:

A map leaks can happen, but details about gameplay, story, and characters are very unlikely to be leaked.

Why is there higher chance to map leak instead of f.e. characters name leak ?

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Someone I believe on Reddit sent me this in a PM, but I wasn't able to find the source who sent it this morning. I think this is a pure coincidence, and the circles really don't match to anything on the "leaked" map from 2 years ago. No idea why someone would analyze this unless I'm missing something:

 

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15 minutes ago, nicktestbranch said:

Someone I believe on Reddit sent me this in a PM, but I wasn't able to find the source who sent it this morning. I think this is a pure coincidence, and the circles really don't match to anything on the "leaked" map from 2 years ago. No idea why someone would analyze this unless I'm missing something:

 

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I thought the coords were in Virginia 

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They are in Virginia, that's where the picture is alluding to. The dot on the first two images in the collage are the exact coordinates as seen in the teaser, and the island's orange circle is where that dot should be. I think someone's grasping at straws with this picture, I don't see anything that stands out to me.

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2 minutes ago, nicktestbranch said:

They are in Virginia, that's where the picture is alluding to. The dot on the first two images in the collage are the exact coordinates as seen in the teaser, and the island's orange circle is where that dot should be. I think someone's grasping at straws with this picture, I don't see anything that stands out to me.

We could think that Rockstar is master at trolling, and found a place that coincidentaly resembles the leaked map, with a VI shaped road. Just for the troll /s.

edit: Or maybe the guy who made the fake map took inspiration from that area?

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Which is why if they faked the map, it only asks more questions than answer them. How would they know to look for that curve in the road before that teaser came out? I'm left with a few possibilities

 

1 - The faker was extremely lucky and just happened to find the curve and make an island out of its geography.

2 - There's an insider who knows what they're doing and has made a bad proof-of-concept outside of work after seeing Rockstar's attention to those coordinates way back when

3 - Rockstar is deliberately making a red herring, so it's fake and it gets people hyped for a moment, and when the real map comes out they're in for a surprise

4 - Rockstar really is taking inspiration from that spot and leaked their map on purpose.

 

4 makes no sense at all because the leaked map doesn't look like it's even from a video game, just a weird photoshop that's hard to pick apart due to its blurriness. 

3, I know Rockstar does teases but nothing on this "scale" if you will. 

2 There would have to be someone who works in the map design department who committed to the leak, and somehow snuck out with that leaked island, sharing it online, putting his job and potential colleagues at risk.

1 You would need to win the lottery to believe this coincidence.

 

I'm honestly guessing it's 2, but I'm not convinced it's real and I find it coincidental after the fact.

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Sorry if this is breaking this threads peace but Id like to show what i’ve been working on for the past hour, D62npm3.jpg

Mapping out the supposed map leak from 2018 with educated guesses and patterns from the image Ir1UOR7.jpg

The area this is based off specifically is Oleta State River Park, Biscayne Bay Campus, Sunny Isles Beach, Golden Beach, Hollywood Beach, and Hollywood

Same part of the map on my past map 

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Planning to make the map in 4k resolution (maybe even 8k but i need a photo sharing site that won’t compress it to hell)

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nvm

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Are we able to scale the map and guess how large the game is going to be? 

 

Compared to 5 & red dead 2 

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57 minutes ago, Oldboy_ said:

Are we able to scale the map and guess how large the game is going to be? 

 

Compared to 5 & red dead 2 

We could do with 5 roughly by matching up the thickness of the highway, I'd guess. They should be around the same width.

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certainly an odd map, either way I have faith whatever rockstar makes will be better

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On 10/22/2020 at 5:19 AM, José_Sócrates said:

Just to give my opinion, I believe the city is too dense for a videogame like GTA, even for 2020 (or 2018) standards, and that's not even mentioning the size of the map. Can Rockstar add enough content in the game to justify that size and density? The game would not only have to be huge in terms of story, but also have a huge plethora of side content and activities so the map can be used efficiently. Now judging by the content in RDR2, that wouldn't be a big problem, however no previous Rockstar game has seemed to have a city as dense as this, which would require the content to be handled in a different way. Due to this reason alone, and without analyzing the map in detail which would certainly reveal other problems, I'm inclined to believe it is a fake leak.


I think Rockstar’s answer to a “moderately sized release” could perhaps be a really detailed city and a countryside. I’d prefer one Liberty City to three Los Santos. Despite both being about the same size Liberty City feels several times bigger due to various things that boil down to more resources being put into it whereas GTA 5 put a lot of emphasis on the countryside. After complaints about the lack of interiors plus most people staying in the city, and talk of a “moderately sized release” this map seems almost eerily like a case of correction. There’s a REALLY dense city that would probably feel much bigger than Los Santos, plus a countryside that while less diverse seems like it would feel more barren. Lots of complaints about 5’s countryside not feeling barren enough.

 

Despite preferring Liberty City to Los Santos I enjoy 5’s map more overall due to the variety in the countryside. Due to years of complaints Rockstar could have one really dense city that feels like a city-Liberty City feels like a city whereas Los Santos feels more like a resort town-plus a more barren countryside. The best of both worlds. I think it’s fake simply due to the rarity of genuine leaks but whoever made it did an eerily good job at doing what Rockstar probably would

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12 hours ago, Ser_Salty said:

We could do with 5 roughly by matching up the thickness of the highway, I'd guess. They should be around the same width.

 

Nice! 

 

5 was a great size, and I dont need a bigger map, I need a similar size map with more going on, like interiors. 

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2 minutes ago, Oldboy_ said:

 

Nice! 

 

5 was a great size, and I dont need a bigger map, I need a similar size map with more going on, like interiors. 

I'm dumb because somebody already matched it up with previous "leak" using the airport runways as reference and it was around 1.25 times as big as V, plus the other two islands and stuff

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Ok so I decided to investigate about that map and realized that it's actually meant to go sideways, like this: http://imgur.com/gallery/eCFu5YB

As you can see there's also a second pic, the blue one without any details, well that's from a leak from some months ago, someone asked gta_vi_leak (yeah the guy from reddit) and he basically said that's the map he has been talking about, however it seems to be a beta version of it since apparently now each island is more separated from eachother and joined by long roads, especially the upper and lower part of the map, so basically it'd be something like this:

 

Upper left island: Carcer City (from manhunt in case you didn't't know)

 

Upper right island: Liberty City (without Alderney for some reason, it's expanded with more green areas surrounding the city)

 

Lower left island: Vice City (roughly the same size of Los Santos, the city part, not the whole map)

 

Lower right island: Cottonmouth (it's meant to be a small town though as you can see in the map leak there's a lot of city in it, maybe it was meant to be a city just like in manhunt 2 but afterwards they decided to change it) and swamps

 

So yeah there you have it, all this map leaks are apparently from a very early version of the map, all of this might be bs at the end but is fun to speculate

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1 hour ago, BAGS00 said:

Ok so I decided to investigate about that map and realized that it's actually meant to go sideways, like this: http://imgur.com/gallery/eCFu5YB

As you can see there's also a second pic, the blue one without any details, well that's from a leak from some months ago, someone asked gta_vi_leak (yeah the guy from reddit) and he basically said that's the map he has been talking about, however it seems to be a beta version of it since apparently now each island is more separated from eachother and joined by long roads, especially the upper and lower part of the map, so basically it'd be something like this:

 

Upper left island: Carcer City (from manhunt in case you didn't't know)

 

Upper right island: Liberty City (without Alderney for some reason, it's expanded with more green areas surrounding the city)

 

Lower left island: Vice City (roughly the same size of Los Santos, the city part, not the whole map)

 

Lower right island: Cottonmouth (it's meant to be a small town though as you can the in the map leak there's a lot of city in it, maybe it was meant to be a city just like in manhunt 2 but afterwards they decided to change it) and swamps

 

So yeah there you have it, all this map leaks are apparently from a very early version of the map, all of this might be bs at the end but is fun to speculate

I'm still on the BS train but I'm always in the mood to look at these maps closely.

 

New analysis coming to this thread soon, and will update the OP as well.

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Fake or not, this is interesting. I wish there were more fake leaks to talk about.

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I do too. As much as I love to sh*tpost, I love to analyze it for hours even if I feel no different by the end of it, and debate is fun.

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31 minutes ago, nicktestbranch said:

I'm still on the BS train but I'm always in the mood to look at these maps closely.

 

New analysis coming to this thread soon, and will update the OP as well.

Looking forward to it, it's fun to speculate and discuss stuff

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I remember that island's elevation map, forgotten somewhere in speculation forum. But it looks fake for me, as if the creator just make use of the 85's map leak to make it believable.

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looks real xd take it with a grain of salt

what do you think guys?

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Recently someone on Reddit apparently leaked the GTA 6 map further the same one we received in 2018 and a few days ago we received an updated version of it on 4chan. Below are the photos uploaded by the "leaker"

 

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4 minutes ago, shaqqy10 said:

looks real xd take it with a grain of salt

well we will know a while if the leaker gives mods prrof or not, the post has been locked on reddit

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