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New CPU's come with a heatsink with preapplied thermal paste. For the moment I don't think you'd need to use anything else.

 

Think of it like building Lego's :) Remember to stand on something non conductive, like a wood floor or something while building.

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So I've completed a Mini-ITX build for my mother. Decided to do my first ever LGA-based Intel build with a MSI H81I and a Pentium G3258. I must say the level mechanism is quite scary to be honest. The lever itself can be seen being bent around as I apply a bit of force to it.

 

Intel stock cooler sucks ass though. AIDA64 stress test shows 87 degrees celsius on CPU+GPU load, at stock speeds. Turn off GPU stress test and it only drops to 83c.

 

For giggles, I overclocked that chip to 4.0 GHz, and it pretty much throttles on CPU+GPU load. But damn, this little chip can be quite a beast overclocker. Still gotta learn more about "Ring Ratio" or whatever the hell that thing is.

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The only thing I hate about Intel stock coolers (and many other after market coolers) is that they use push pin setups.. f*cking ridiculous, imo. What happened to using screws? I actually just sent my Hyper T2 cooler back to Amazon for a refund. I spent over an hour trying to get it to stay connected to the motherboard.

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Still gotta learn more about "Ring Ratio" or whatever the hell that thing is.

It's the multiplier for the processor's cache. Personally I don't see much use in touching it unless you're chasing a few extra points in some benchmarks.

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Heh. Never mind what I said. Apparently there was an error on the site I purchased the parts from. They did assemble my PC but they accidentally gave my money back for the service. They took it back again when I pointed out the error.

 

Good news then. I can't wait to get my hands on my new PC. I've been waiting for a week and this is the first powerful rig that I've bought.

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The only thing I hate about Intel stock coolers (and many other after market coolers) is that they use push pin setups.. f*cking ridiculous, imo. What happened to using screws? I actually just sent my Hyper T2 cooler back to Amazon for a refund. I spent over an hour trying to get it to stay connected to the motherboard.

I know that feel... I accidentally broke one of four push pins in my old heatsink. Now the whole heatsink is useless. :/

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The only thing I hate about Intel stock coolers (and many other after market coolers) is that they use push pin setups.. f*cking ridiculous, imo. What happened to using screws? I actually just sent my Hyper T2 cooler back to Amazon for a refund. I spent over an hour trying to get it to stay connected to the motherboard.

 

I spent like, 30 minutes trying to figure out how someone would remove the stock heatsink during the build process. That sound of plastic pins grinding on the motherboard is enough to give me the chills.

 

Forgot something, there was like, a metal bar that extends from the left side to the right side of the chassis that has been bugging me during the build process. Then after the whole thing was set up, I found out that there was 2 screws holding that bar (I thought that the bar is a permanent part of the chassis).

 

Still gotta learn more about "Ring Ratio" or whatever the hell that thing is.

It's the multiplier for the processor's cache. Personally I don't see much use in touching it unless you're chasing a few extra points in some benchmarks.

 

 

Aye thanks. It's currently left at Auto, which I believe is 3200 MHz?

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The only thing I hate about Intel stock coolers (and many other after market coolers) is that they use push pin setups.. f*cking ridiculous, imo. What happened to using screws? I actually just sent my Hyper T2 cooler back to Amazon for a refund. I spent over an hour trying to get it to stay connected to the motherboard.

 

I spent like, 30 minutes trying to figure out how someone would remove the stock heatsink during the build process. That sound of plastic pins grinding on the motherboard is enough to give me the chills.

 

Forgot something, there was like, a metal bar that extends from the left side to the right side of the chassis that has been bugging me during the build process. Then after the whole thing was set up, I found out that there was 2 screws holding that bar (I thought that the bar is a permanent part of the chassis).

 

Still gotta learn more about "Ring Ratio" or whatever the hell that thing is.

It's the multiplier for the processor's cache. Personally I don't see much use in touching it unless you're chasing a few extra points in some benchmarks.

 

 

Aye thanks. It's currently left at Auto, which I believe is 3200 MHz?

 

Yes, is it 3200MHz by default. The Pentium is definitely not a bad CPU.

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The only thing I hate about Intel stock coolers (and many other after market coolers) is that they use push pin setups.. f*cking ridiculous, imo. What happened to using screws? I actually just sent my Hyper T2 cooler back to Amazon for a refund. I spent over an hour trying to get it to stay connected to the motherboard.

 

I know that feel... I accidentally broke one of four push pins in my old heatsink. Now the whole heatsink is useless. :/

 

That's what I thought I was gonna do.. so I just said "f*ck it" and used my older heat sink. It's pretty old, but it's still holding up. I figured with new parts, I could include a new cooler as well.. *sigh*.

 

 

The only thing I hate about Intel stock coolers (and many other after market coolers) is that they use push pin setups.. f*cking ridiculous, imo. What happened to using screws? I actually just sent my Hyper T2 cooler back to Amazon for a refund. I spent over an hour trying to get it to stay connected to the motherboard.

 

I spent like, 30 minutes trying to figure out how someone would remove the stock heat sink during the build process. That sound of plastic pins grinding on the motherboard is enough to give me the chills.

 

Forgot something, there was like, a metal bar that extends from the left side to the right side of the chassis that has been bugging me during the build process. Then after the whole thing was set up, I found out that there was 2 screws holding that bar (I thought that the bar is a permanent part of the chassis).

 

I never even got to the point of where they would grind on the motherboard. They wouldn't even go in, despite doing everything the instructions and videos said.. I just don't get it.

 

It's a shame you don't find many decent heat sinks that use the screw in method anymore.

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You just turn the plastic the other way with a screwdriver, its easily removable (the Intel stock ones)

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Hello Guys, I need some help.

 

The thing is I have asked my relatives in USA to buy a Gaming Graphics Card for me. It is my first time. They have asked me to give the name of card as they are gonna buy it in a next couple of days or so. It is gonna be a GTX 980 Ti which is fixed. But, I don't know which Custom Solution I should go with.

My likes are towards Asus Strix (3 Fans), but I am afraid if I would be able to find out a proper cabinet to fit it in India. I keep searching about the new graphics cards and other Tech stuffs, but I am unable to take a decision.

 

Could you guys help me with your opinion. Being my first time, I don't wanna make mistake. Please give the Link of card from Amazon or New Egg (May be PM me if it breaks rules of forums).

 

+ Money Range: 650$ to 690$.

+ Would prefer higher Clock Speeds

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You just turn the plastic the other way with a screwdriver, its easily removable (the Intel stock ones)

 

I tried that as well, with a flat tip driver. Didn't wanna stay in. Pins look fine last time I saw them.. I don't think I broke them

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Hello Guys, I need some help.

 

The thing is I have asked my relatives in USA to buy a Gaming Graphics Card for me. It is my first time. They have asked me to give the name of card as they are gonna buy it in a next couple of days or so. It is gonna be a GTX 980 Ti which is fixed. But, I don't know which Custom Solution I should go with.

My likes are towards Asus Strix (3 Fans), but I am afraid if I would be able to find out a proper cabinet to fit it in India. I keep searching about the new graphics cards and other Tech stuffs, but I am unable to take a decision.

 

Could you guys help me with your opinion. Being my first time, I don't wanna make mistake. Please give the Link of card from Amazon or New Egg (May be PM me if it breaks rules of forums).

 

+ Money Range: 650$ to 690$.

+ Would prefer higher Clock Speeds

Unless you're gaming on a 4K monitor, a GTX 980Ti is a complete waste of money. I'd suggest going for something cheaper such as a GTX 960 or GTX 970 and investing the saved money elsewhere in your build.
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I will be going with a 1440p monitor as I don't think the card will be able to handle 4K games maxed for long and I am going with Zotac 980Ti Amp! Extreme knowing the fact that Asus Strix 980Ti OC are currently available nowhere for 700$. Some sellers have overcharged it above 900$ on amazon.

 

I wonder if EVGA 980Ti Classified is any good. :whistle: Really wanted to go with Asus Strix though.

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I wonder if EVGA 980Ti Classified is any good.

They're some of the best cards on the market tbh, especially when it comes to overclocking. If there isn't a huge cost between the AMP extreme and the classified, it'd definitely jump on the classy.

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So I ordered parts for a new PC on Friday and I apparently botched the order such that I'll have to assemble it myself. How hard could it be? The thing I'm worried the most about is the CPU. Do I need thermal paste for it?

 

Edit: Apparently it comes preapplied with the CPU (plus heatsink). Here's hoping I don't mess anything up and that all of the parts work.

Be very careful and work slowly if possible when handling the cpu and the heatsink, you could accidentally slip and end up getting some thermal paste on your fingers, on top of that, it is possible that you could unwittingly touch those fingers to the motherboard and have the paste come in contact with the board and cause a short which could kill the whole computer when you power it on for the first time, I have been lucky when this happened to me, it just made the computer not want to start up, but you can clean the paste off the board and hope for the best. Also, touching the thermal paste and having some of it come off on your fingers can ruin the way it spreads when you tighten the heatsink to the board.

 

Good luck! :)

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I will be going with a 1440p monitor as I don't think the card will be able to handle 4K games maxed for long and I am going with Zotac 980Ti Amp! Extreme knowing the fact that Asus Strix 980Ti OC are currently available nowhere for 700$. Some sellers have overcharged it above 900$ on amazon.

 

I wonder if EVGA 980Ti Classified is any good. :whistle: Really wanted to go with Asus Strix though.

 

I'm using a Titan X for 1440p. The 980Ti will let you play the majority of games maxed at 60fps at that resolution. Only game that doesn't do that for me is The Witcher 3. Plays at a solid 60fps in 1080p though.

I've only ever used EVGA cards for as long as I've been PC gaming. My first card was an EVGA 9800GT 1GB which I still have. Their customer service is out of this world and you'll be taken care of if you ever have any problems with your card.

 

All that said though, the Zotac version should give you a higher boost clock out of the box than the EVGA version which is always a good thing :^:

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I'm using a Titan X for 1440p. The 980Ti will let you play the majority of games maxed at 60fps at that resolution. Only game that doesn't do that for me is The Witcher 3. Plays at a solid 60fps in 1080p though.

I've only ever used EVGA cards for as long as I've been PC gaming. My first card was an EVGA 9800GT 1GB which I still have. Their customer service is out of this world and you'll be taken care of if you ever have any problems with your card.

 

All that said though, the Zotac version should give you a higher boost clock out of the box than the EVGA version which is always a good thing :^:

 

 

Titan X is a nice card. :^: I have heard that 1425 MHz is the maximum you can push with it.

Gigabyte G1 Gaming comes much closer to Zotac AMP! Extreme. Coil whine problem is a major one with most of 980Ti's out their.

 

So, what do you prefer, Factory Overclocked card (Moderate Company Zotac) or Overclocking at home (Good Company EVGA)? Their is just a 30$ difference.

 

 

I still think I should go with Classified because it is a Custom Build Card (Cherry Picked), although the clock speeds are low

 

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My Titan X is the EVGA Superclocked edition, so out of the box it will boost to around 1387 Mhz. The boost on the 980Ti Classy could probably boost just as high or higher (since it has a better cooler) with just a small bump to the core clock in Afterburner as well as raising the power target.

However the Titan X and 980Ti both have a thermal limit around 65C that will downclock the core by 13Mhz no matter what. Trying to keep a reference Titan X under 65C even on stock is pretty difficult. I had to flash a custom BIOS to get rid of the limit, so now it boosts to 1405 Mhz and won't throttle past 65C anymore.

 

I've always gone with EVGA, and if I absolutely had to buy a 980Ti I still would've bought an EVGA card. I just trust their build quality and their customer service is pretty good; although I've never had to call/email them about anything before

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Guys, I finally made a decision abt. my Graphics card and I choosed to go with EVGA 980Ti Classified ACX 2.0+. My relative in North Dakota has already ordered it and will be getting it soon. I will be able to touch my first graphics card on this month's end around 30th October when he will be visiting India.

I am much excited about this. Will be thinking about the other parts to go with, for the build.

 

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I want to thank all of you guys for helping me out in making my decision. (Specially to TheMcSame and both Ryan's from Z)

 

Thanks again.

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Here is a pic of my 980 Ti which just arrived in US couple of days ago from Newegg. My luck must be bad because one day after we ordered it, Newegg came up with free game with this Gfx card which was not the case when we ordered it. Really wanted that Rainbow Six Siege so bad.

 

 

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Ordered a Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2 PCI-E SSD yesterday which I've been eyeing to replace my Samsung 830 Pro 128GB SSD as my system drive. The plan was to then keep my two remaining 1TB HDD's, one of which I use for games, and the other for media.

 

As my luck would have it, I booted up my computer today and it appears my games drive is dying as it is making strange clicking noises and reading and writing abnormally slow. So since I didn't already spend enough money on SSD's this weekend, just ended up buying a Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD that was on sale for $200 to replace my games drive.

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Ordered a Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2 PCI-E SSD yesterday which I've been eyeing to replace my Samsung 830 Pro 128GB SSD as my system drive. The plan was to then keep my two remaining 1TB HDD's, one of which I use for games, and the other for media.

 

As my luck would have it, I booted up my computer today and it appears my games drive is dying as it is making strange clicking noises and reading and writing abnormally slow. So since I didn't already spend enough money on SSD's this weekend, just ended up buying a Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD that was on sale for $200 to replace my games drive.

 

I really can't wait to sink my teeth into an SSD. I still haven't made use of them. They had Samsung EVO 500GB's on sale at Newegg for $150 last weekend. I passed on them and still have yet to pounce. Looking to get 2 and run them in RAID 0.

 

As for this weekend, I finally have everything I need to watercool my 290 OC. These Hawaii GPU's run very hot, and it's just so damn annoying to hear the fans kick in on full load, so I decided to watercool this sucker with a G10 bracket, Corsair H55, a Noctua fan and some copper heatsinks for the VRM.

 

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The 850 Evo is a good SSD, though it's more of an economical option for those looking for large capacity SSD's. If you want something more performance oriented, you'd probably be better off looking at an 850 Pro.

 

Ultimately though, both are solid SSD's and would be a definite improvement over an HDD.

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The 850 Evo is a good SSD, though it's more of an economical option for those looking for large capacity SSD's. If you want something more performance oriented, you'd probably be better off looking at an 850 Pro.

 

Ultimately though, both are solid SSD's and would be a definite improvement over an HDD.

I have a pretty old motherboard, so my inclination was to run RAID 0 with two was because I only have SATA II ports. Would I need to buy a PCI SATA III card to see the benefits of a Pro card in lieu of an EVO?

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For some weird reason now whenever i click on a program it ask me to give Admin Permission for this program to change setting on my PC when those programs have never asked before such as Games and other stuff...

 

This only started within the last few days...

 

Short of turning the setting all the way off is there anyway to put it back so it doesn't ask me that for every program i use even Chrome?

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Fecking lol @YouTube Red.

 

For $12 a month you can save videos , have background audio, and watch youtube free of ads.

 

With jail breaking you can do all of that free.

 

I've had "youtube red" for the past year now( with ads, I like ads for certain reasons).

 

If they do ever find a way to prevent jailbreaking im gonna have to switch to another phone that provides the same functionality.

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