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[AZAZEL]

Don't think this will work either.

 

 

[sivispacem]

16 hours ago, AZAZEL said:

Don't think this will work either.

 

 

It will once you take the cooler off! The PCB on them is no bigger than the 3090 IIRC

[AZAZEL]

10 hours ago, sivispacem said:

It will once you take the cooler off! The PCB on them is no bigger than the 3090 IIRC

Yah, it's quite small when the cooler's off. Won't get my EK block for another month though, so was looking to do a temporary mount until then. Might try making it work vertically, and just run the CPU on the loop.

[Miss Malevolent]

This seems like the thread for this question.

 

PS5 SSD upgrade...trying to decide between this:

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09G2P4PYP/

 

or this:

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0977K3N1M

 

Trying to get the best read/write speed with the maximum storage.

 

[sivispacem]

The FireCuda is the faster of the two when it comes to paper specification but in reality the difference between the two will be completely and totally unnoticeable in anything but synthetic benchmarks. I'd save 10% and get the Sabrent, although you would save another ten bucks going for the 4+ G which is again identical in performance, though I don't know if it's PS5 certified. 

[Miss Malevolent]

Ignore the price in the corner. It is on sale for $399.99. Or at least that was the price before Black Friday. Friend bought two, one for his PS5 and one for mine. Installed and ready to go... left GTA5 and COD: MW2 on the original drive, moved everything else to the SSD. With this and my External 4TB for PS4 games. I should be good for the life cycle of this system.

 

You can buy the drive at Microcenter. They do ship.

 

 

Edited November 28, 2022 by Miss Malevolent

[Craigsters]

 

more  here

[sivispacem]

Yeah there's AIB cards floating round on Amazon and at least two other UK retailers below their MSRP at the moment. 

[Mexicola9302]

Ugh meh im not lucky lately with my HDD's, today another one died. I had a few HDD's die on me lately. Today a 1.5 TB Seagate Barracuda died, a few weeks ago a 2 TB Western Digital Green died, before that another 2 TB WD Green died, and before that a 500 GB Toshiba. It's been like 2-3 years between the 2 WD Green deaths.

 

Well they all were old sure, HDD's just die at some point, but it sucks losing 2 in less than 4 weeks. Well one thing is for sure, i will never buy a WD Green anymore lol.  

Edited December 5, 2022 by Mexicola9302

[Index]

17 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Ugh meh im not lucky lately with my HDD's, today another one died. I had a few HDD's die on my lately. Today a 1.5 TB Seagate Barracuda died, a few weeks ago a 2 TB Western Digital Green died, before that another 2 TB WD Green died, and before that a 500 GB Toshiba. It's been like 2-3 years between the 2 WD Green deaths.

 

Well they all were old sure, HDD's just die at some point, but it sucks losing 2 in less than 4 weeks. Well one thing is for sure, i will never buy a WD Green anymore lol.  

 

My Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD from 2014, when I first got my PC build, is still going strong, lol. It's only once made the click of death sound.

[Mexicola9302]

The thing with my Barracuda is, my TV can still read the HDD and play the videos that are on it, but if i connect it to my PC, i can't read or write anything on it. But i have to press "repair" in the TV menu to be able to play the videos.

 

The next HDD i will buy will probably be 18 TB large and it will be a Seagate again, the last few years i only bought WD's but it's time for a change again. Man i wish SSD's were cheaper, it would be awesome getting a 18 TB SSD for like 300€ or something, just like a HDD. At least SSD's don't have mechanical parts that can break. But the largest SSD's that exist are only 8 TB large. That is not enough IMO. And it's expensive af.

 

I probably get a Seagate Exos X20 18 TB next. The largest one i currently have is a 16 TB WD Gold.

Edited December 5, 2022 by Mexicola9302

[sivispacem]

Have a look at Toshiba, they've always had a better reputation than Seagate or WD when it comes to drive failure rates. 

[Straypuft]

I had a hell of a night last night trying to solve my internet speed problem, Yesterday my ISP sent a tech over to do something about my signal which they said was originating from my apartment or something like that, I thought this would fix my internet speed problem Ive had for the past few months as I was mulling over them sending a tech over since then.

 

Issue was: Steam wasnt downloading at my 500 megabit advertised speeds that I know I was supposed to be getting as Ive seen that speed before, Plugging my computer into my modem directly gave me the speeds I was supposed to have, so I did some major cable swapping trying to find my best cables. I do wish to mention that speedtest sites should not be trusted entirely, I tried several and they showed me the speeds I was supposed to be getting, but, using steam to download large games to test this out, I was averaging ~200 megabits, I had to limit Steam to 175 megabits in order to be able to use the internet while downloading at the same time, Now I just dont trust speed test sites over that.

 

Even the ISP tech said they used speedtest.net, Some troubleshooting and google searches later, I saw I should downgrade my routers firmware(Netgear Nighthawk R7000)(latest up to date firmware as of last night), one of the posts I came across was 5 months old and pointed to a firmware from around then so I tried that particular firmware and it fricken worked. Now Steam gives pretty much full speed Im supposed to be getting and the area behind my model is cable hell and might be that way for the future to come.

[DEALUX]

I don't like mechanical keyboards. I think optical and hall effect switches, especially in ultra low profile formats, have made mechanical keyboards obsolete due to the god tier levels of comfort and speed in video games. This takes that idea to the next level.

 

 

[kipakolonyasi]

I have this stutter problem with my new gaming laptop which is a Lenovo ideapad gaming 3. (i5 11320H, 16 RAM, RTX 3050 TI) The stutter starts after around 3 to 5 hours of running (after startup) and it depends on acivity too, if i push it harder with games it may start earlier etc. And when it starts it doesn’t go away until restart. And it’s a full system stutter not only in games, desktop stutters as well. It’s a very periodic stutter, if it’s every second it’s every second. Sound is not affected. But it doesn’t show up in my nvidia fps counter. Frame rate always looks fine. I’ve never changed anything in BIOS or don’t use anything that changes any system settings, it’s a clean installation of Windows 11. And i formatted the PC 2 times as well, don’t install anything other than the Steam and the games. Only program i use besides them is Lenovo Vantage. Tried installing drivers form Lenovo website myself once, tried leaving drivers to Windows Update in my other fresh install of Windows… Tried a lot of things but I’m at the end of my own wit at the moment. What can be causing this?

[Jason]

On 4/6/2023 at 9:35 PM, DEALUX said:

I don't like mechanical keyboards. I think optical and hall effect switches, especially in ultra low profile formats, have made mechanical keyboards obsolete due to the god tier levels of comfort and speed in video games. This takes that idea to the next level.

 

That's a lot of really cool looking gimmicks for something most users won't look at or use. There's been a ton of gimmicky mice and keyboards over the years that have said they're reinventing them or evolving them and yet despite that we're still rocking mechanical keyboards because simplicity and feel is king.

 

"Gaming modes" on keyboards are pretty laughable as well, go look at the best CSGO players in the world and you'll find that most are using not only mechanical keyboards but wireless as well (wireless mice too are very popular). Wireless technology is simply that good now, and it's convenient, and it's not like the tech behind mechanical keyboards is still the same as it was 20 or 30 years ago, there's been a ton of work put into better switches to ensure there's no performance hit in games, and that performance hit was always pretty negligible anyway.

 

How you want your keyboard to feel is always going to be a personal preference but from a technical point of view there's no right or wrong, you won't be better with a optical keyboard or whatever in games and you probably won't type faster either. If you're serious about wanting to type faster than you'd want to look at other key layouts (aka moving away from qwerty) or looking at some of those wacky typing focused keyboard designs.

[Geisterfaust]

On 4/12/2023 at 2:58 PM, Jason said:

That's a lot of really cool looking gimmicks for something most users won't look at or use. There's been a ton of gimmicky mice and keyboards over the years that have said they're reinventing them or evolving them and yet despite that we're still rocking mechanical keyboards because simplicity and feel is king.

Yeah, these things were popping up for decades and yet, mechanical market is on the rise last 5-6 years. More DIY kits are being offered, more switches are available, more of everything. Prices are mostly going down seriously. Years ago top tier Corsair or Razer models were priced around $200 or even more, but now you can get sublime product for just over $100 if you know what are you doing. All the recent models are looking better, feeling better, built better and offer more variety than ever.

 

About the Flux thing, it's a gimmick for a very limited market of youngsters. It would be impossible to properly work on this thing if it will distract you, plus who on Earth is looking at the board when typing?

 

@kipakolonyasi: check your thermals plus make sure that your storage is not being cached by Windows, watch for 100% disk usage.

 

[kipakolonyasi]

On 4/22/2023 at 4:21 PM, Geisterfaust said:

Yeah, these things were popping up for decades and yet, mechanical market is on the rise last 5-6 years. More DIY kits are being offered, more switches are available, more of everything. Prices are mostly going down seriously. Years ago top tier Corsair or Razer models were priced around $200 or even more, but now you can get sublime product for just over $100 if you know what are you doing. All the recent models are looking better, feeling better, built better and offer more variety than ever.

 

About the Flux thing, it's a gimmick for a very limited market of youngsters. It would be impossible to properly work on this thing if it will distract you, plus who on Earth is looking at the board when typing?

 

@kipakolonyasi: check your thermals plus make sure that your storage is not being cached by Windows, watch for 100% disk usage.

 

CPU never goes over 75 degrees, GPU never goes above 80 degrees; i think these should be fine, right? And no, disk usage is always normal. And ram also.

[Shankhy]

Can anybody give me suggestion of good rtx 3060 laptop with 140 w power and processor minimum i7 12700H. Thanks.

Edited April 26, 2023 by Shankhy

[Geisterfaust]

2 hours ago, kipakolonyasi said:

CPU never goes over 75 degrees, GPU never goes above 80 degrees; i think these should be fine, right? And no, disk usage is always normal. And ram also.

Those should not be really bad temps by the laptop standards indeed. I could have suspected the PSU, but let's exhaust the last option: are you sure your power plan is okay, not power saving? I've Googled the issue with your model and it seems to happen both on Intel and AMD machines with various suggestions on how to fix it in AMD case and little to nothing in case of Intel. Are there any proprietary Lenovo utilities to control the power? You may want to check them out. If still nothing, contact support if you're still covered by warranty.

[kipakolonyasi]

31 minutes ago, Geisterfaust said:

Those should not be really bad temps by the laptop standards indeed. I could have suspected the PSU, but let's exhaust the last option: are you sure your power plan is okay, not power saving? I've Googled the issue with your model and it seems to happen both on Intel and AMD machines with various suggestions on how to fix it in AMD case and little to nothing in case of Intel. Are there any proprietary Lenovo utilities to control the power? You may want to check them out. If still nothing, contact support if you're still covered by warranty.

Performance mode is selected in Lenovo Vantage program. And Windows doesn't give me much power options in my power plan settings. There's no setting other than balanced and when i click "change advanced power settings" there's very few options, nothing about CPU or anything like that. But i have "thermal modes" in Vantage and it's always been on performance mode. By the way do you mean the power adapter by PSU? Can it be that? It's a 180W power adapter that came with the laptop. 

[Geisterfaust]

11 hours ago, kipakolonyasi said:

Performance mode is selected in Lenovo Vantage program. And Windows doesn't give me much power options in my power plan settings. There's no setting other than balanced and when i click "change advanced power settings" there's very few options, nothing about CPU or anything like that. But i have "thermal modes" in Vantage and it's always been on performance mode. By the way do you mean the power adapter by PSU? Can it be that? It's a 180W power adapter that came with the laptop. 

Yeah, theoretically it could be faulty but it's a very long shot. If you are covered by the warranty, go there. The issue seems serious enough and if it's a hardware one it won't get better. I could assume Win 11 issues, but once again it's a guesswork and you better off contacting the manufacturer at least via internet. We could suspect a lot of issues, but you will need more resources to properly exclude potentially faulty parts: swapping drive, memory, power adapter... Unless you have all these things laying around, there's only one road - official support.

 

There's an exotic suggestion though: if you're using single channel memory configuration, that could be the culprit under some heavy load. It's not supposed to be, but it could be.

 

P.S. Check your BIOS and if there are newer options, update. A lot of issues could be resolved via BIOS update.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Geisterfaust

[kipakolonyasi]

On 4/27/2023 at 1:06 PM, Geisterfaust said:

Yeah, theoretically it could be faulty but it's a very long shot. If you are covered by the warranty, go there. The issue seems serious enough and if it's a hardware one it won't get better. I could assume Win 11 issues, but once again it's a guesswork and you better off contacting the manufacturer at least via internet. We could suspect a lot of issues, but you will need more resources to properly exclude potentially faulty parts: swapping drive, memory, power adapter... Unless you have all these things laying around, there's only one road - official support.

 

There's an exotic suggestion though: if you're using single channel memory configuration, that could be the culprit under some heavy load. It's not supposed to be, but it could be.

 

P.S. Check your BIOS and if there are newer options, update. A lot of issues could be resolved via BIOS update.

I’ve tried Windows 10 too, I’m on 10 at the moment and stil have the issue. And no, the memory is dual channel i’ve checked with CPU-Z. And yes, I’ve updated BIOS several times since i got the laptop, Vantage always checks for new BIOS updates.

 

I just don’t want to go with warranty because i know the most they are going to do is just clean the fans reapply the thermal paste and send it back. Lenovo service in Turkey is just bad. I’ve already spoke with them and they checked thermals, installed some drivers remotely and told me, let’s see if the problem persists; we’ll call you again in one week, and didn’t even call. They don’t know the issue. They do the most standard things. 
 

I’m thinking if it can be something that’s related to switchable graphics because yesterday the stutters started before my own eyes just when i launched a game. Like they started the moment it switched from intel graphics to the dedicated card. It was the first time i saw when they started.

[Geisterfaust]

7 hours ago, kipakolonyasi said:

I just don’t want to go with warranty because i know the most they are going to do is just clean the fans reapply the thermal paste and send it back. Lenovo service in Turkey is just bad. I’ve already spoke with them and they checked thermals, installed some drivers remotely and told me, let’s see if the problem persists; we’ll call you again in one week, and didn’t even call. They don’t know the issue. They do the most standard things. 

Insist on returning it, complain constantly and in writing. Take advantage of your customer support laws, local ones could be on your side. Do not expect to get calls from support, write them yourself and on a regular basis. You're dealing with a faulty device and it's interfering with your workflow, it's not what you have paid for. Bad service or not, ask for a refund or for another machine. You have exhausted every line that was possible, I think and it's either a massive compatibility/ driver issue that could or could not be fixed or you're dealing with a bad hardware. And trust me, it will only get worse if the HW is faulty. Anyway, push the support and don't forget to write to the head company if the locals are not cooperating.

 

Document the stutters with a standalone camera, use it as a proof, I mean several stutters so they won't be able to dismiss it as a fluke. Like 5-6 of them, no ambiguity should be seen there. Push, push and push. They will stall to make sure the warranty runs out, you need to escalate things instead. The issue with the machine you have will prohibit you from properly selling it and will force you to forfeit the costs when you will want to upgrade. Faulty crap should be replaced and that's your right.

[kipakolonyasi]

On 5/2/2023 at 5:25 PM, Geisterfaust said:

Insist on returning it, complain constantly and in writing. Take advantage of your customer support laws, local ones could be on your side. Do not expect to get calls from support, write them yourself and on a regular basis. You're dealing with a faulty device and it's interfering with your workflow, it's not what you have paid for. Bad service or not, ask for a refund or for another machine. You have exhausted every line that was possible, I think and it's either a massive compatibility/ driver issue that could or could not be fixed or you're dealing with a bad hardware. And trust me, it will only get worse if the HW is faulty. Anyway, push the support and don't forget to write to the head company if the locals are not cooperating.

 

Document the stutters with a standalone camera, use it as a proof, I mean several stutters so they won't be able to dismiss it as a fluke. Like 5-6 of them, no ambiguity should be seen there. Push, push and push. They will stall to make sure the warranty runs out, you need to escalate things instead. The issue with the machine you have will prohibit you from properly selling it and will force you to forfeit the costs when you will want to upgrade. Faulty crap should be replaced and that's your right.

You are 100% right. I’ll try this.

[Cluckin Bell CEO]

On 4/12/2023 at 5:28 PM, Jason said:

 

That's a lot of really cool looking gimmicks for something most users won't look at or use. There's been a ton of gimmicky mice and keyboards over the years that have said they're reinventing them or evolving them and yet despite that we're still rocking mechanical keyboards because simplicity and feel is king.

 

"Gaming modes" on keyboards are pretty laughable as well, go look at the best CSGO players in the world and you'll find that most are using not only mechanical keyboards but wireless as well (wireless mice too are very popular). Wireless technology is simply that good now, and it's convenient, and it's not like the tech behind mechanical keyboards is still the same as it was 20 or 30 years ago, there's been a ton of work put into better switches to ensure there's no performance hit in games, and that performance hit was always pretty negligible anyway.

 

 

Don't wireless keyboards have input lag? And wireless headphones especially have noticeable sound delay last I used one

[Jason]

3 hours ago, Darth_Cruiser said:

Don't wireless keyboards have input lag? And wireless headphones especially have noticeable sound delay last I used one

 

Headphones I'm not so sure about but mice are at a point where the top tier wireless mice are as responsive as anything, some are even more responsive than cheaper mice. I'd assume keyboards are the same tbh, pro players use them, albeit they could be plugged in.

 

Wireless tech has come along massively in the past 10 years though so it wouldn't surprise me if full wireless is fine in terms of input lag.

[kipakolonyasi]

On 5/2/2023 at 5:25 PM, Geisterfaust said:

Insist on returning it, complain constantly and in writing. Take advantage of your customer support laws, local ones could be on your side. Do not expect to get calls from support, write them yourself and on a regular basis. You're dealing with a faulty device and it's interfering with your workflow, it's not what you have paid for. Bad service or not, ask for a refund or for another machine. You have exhausted every line that was possible, I think and it's either a massive compatibility/ driver issue that could or could not be fixed or you're dealing with a bad hardware. And trust me, it will only get worse if the HW is faulty. Anyway, push the support and don't forget to write to the head company if the locals are not cooperating.

 

Document the stutters with a standalone camera, use it as a proof, I mean several stutters so they won't be able to dismiss it as a fluke. Like 5-6 of them, no ambiguity should be seen there. Push, push and push. They will stall to make sure the warranty runs out, you need to escalate things instead. The issue with the machine you have will prohibit you from properly selling it and will force you to forfeit the costs when you will want to upgrade. Faulty crap should be replaced and that's your right.

So i did this. Sent the laptop all the way to İstanbul to Lenovo service from where i live. They looked at it. They replaced the motherboard and they’re sending it back to me. Under warranty and free of charge of course. I said if you found it to be a defective motherboard then that means the product is a faulty product and why don’t i have the right to return it, they said you only have that right in the first 6 months (but my laptop is 7 months old) but i looked at the law and i do have the right for the first two years. But it seems Lenovo doesn’t implement it that way and they know most people aren’t going to go through the hassle of suing them. But i’ll look at what i can do. I’m curious to see if the motherboard replacement solved the problem also. Maybe it’s good now and i will not bother.

[Geisterfaust]

6 hours ago, kipakolonyasi said:

So i did this. Sent the laptop all the way to İstanbul to Lenovo service from where i live. They looked at it. They replaced the motherboard and they’re sending it back to me. Under warranty and free of charge of course. I said if you found it to be a defective motherboard then that means the product is a faulty product and why don’t i have the right to return it, they said you only have that right in the first 6 months (but my laptop is 7 months old) but i looked at the law and i do have the right for the first two years. But it seems Lenovo doesn’t implement it that way and they know most people aren’t going to go through the hassle of suing them. But i’ll look at what i can do. I’m curious to see if the motherboard replacement solved the problem also. Maybe it’s good now and i will not bother.

If the board is indeed working, you're out of woods. Unless the defect is very widespread and it will return like it was on some older MacBooks from early 2010s with defective graphic chips. However, you probably don't need to sue them, you should have some kind of customer protection agency in Turkey and you may try to contact them and ask for help. This usually works, big corporations don't like noise or interacting with government agencies because they can easily punish local branches for crappy behavior.

 

I'm glad that at least something was done and your issue could be resolved.

[DEALUX]

I just ordered the RTX 4070. I'm hoping my aging CPU won't bottleneck it too much lol. Originally I was planning to get a new monitor which required a GPU with DSC support but I'll wait to see how the 1440p OLED market evolves.