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Jenkiiii

Since recent account resets, GTA online feels worthless

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Jenkiiii

Hey, folks.

 

This thread is in danger of being a repeat moan about recent account resets, so apologies in advance if it comes across as another B&M.

 

I am having problems with my mindset over the last couple of weeks and would like to ask for your collective help and opinions. Two weeks ago, many of my online friends had their accounts wiped and reset by Rockstar, sending them back to zero. However, two weeks on, most of them are back to 'normal' and have raked in fifties of millions. I am fine with this because they are my online friends and I want them to have all of the vehicles and properties that they need to play the game the way I do, but the cheating has gone overboard on console and other players who were not involved in previous glitches are doing so as well. The reset has had the effect of making people more determined than ever before to generate as much glitched cash as possible, which is disturbing.

 

I know this could come across as me being peevish or jealous, or maybe even contradictory to my previous opinions (feel free to say so) but the amount of cheating makes the game seem more and more worthless to me now. Doing simple things like Headhunter or a Business Battles for small change feels pointless. Literally, I have more cash than I can realistically spend (sorry for the boast), but seeing everyone generate a million or more in minutes and then repeat that over and over again, doing speed runs and competing with each other in the process, makes anything associated with the grind seem pathetic. I have no incentive to sell my bunker or nightclub or grind yet more cash, and I wanted to reach out to people on these forums and ask their opinion about this?

 

I feel like it could be time to take a significant break from this game and only play it on specific days and maybe disconnect from certain people, or maybe just relax and accept the game as economically broken and corrupt?

 

Whatever your thoughts, in-game glitching has gotten much worse since the account resets.

 

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Timsalabimbo
12 minutes ago, Jenkiiii said:

 or maybe just relax

This, and just do something you actually LIKE to do, whether it's in this game or another.

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Jenkiiii
7 minutes ago, Timsalabimbo said:

This, and just do something you actually LIKE to do, whether it's in this game or another.

I think you're right. GTA online (at least on console) is focused on making money, which means that most people grind or glitch all the time depending on their financial situation. Having fun and doing what you want means that you quickly fall behind, which is what happens when you spend all your time in creator, for example: you come out of it and you have no cash. The same goes for racing lobbies: you finish the playlist and have only a small amount cash. This leaves people with few options: buy shark cards or go for a starter pack? Sure, that's a good option at first, but not for regular players who just want to log on and play. It's an endless conundrum: I care about this game because I've been playing it for 20 years, and I also have many friends in various crews, but I don't think I should play any of Rockstar's games any more because they're so economically imbalanced.

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Quinn_flower

I agree take a break or walk away. That's what I did. This game didn't help my depression. 

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AirWolf359
3 minutes ago, Quinn_flower said:

I agree take a break or walk away. That's what I did. This game didn't help my depression. 

I have seen this with some of my in-game friends. They play this game to escape their sh*tty real life, but it doesn't work that way. The more they played, the more depressed they got. For those who think this game cures depression: it doesn't, only causes more. Take a break, play something else or go outside.

 

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Midnight Ryder

Do whatever makes you happy.  I know that sounds redundant but you will be much better served in the long run.  If anything depresses you keep away from it as much as possible.

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Hazzardtohimself
45 minutes ago, Timsalabimbo said:

This, and just do something you actually LIKE to do, whether it's in this game or another.

 

11 minutes ago, Quinn_flower said:

I agree take a break or walk away. That's what I did. This game didn't help my depression. 

Quoted both for truth. 

 

I have long since abandoned GTA for 'playing it the way Rockstar intend' because I have little to no interest (and little to no talent!) in pandering to what used to be a drive-em-up with occasional shootouts, and accepting it as a Battle Royale against glitching players, aimbot NPCs, and action pieces that even Michael Bay would consider "A bit excessive". 

 

I log on occasionally, never load into a publicly-open lobby, and just drive around or have some airborne fun. And then I step away and do something new or more enjoyable. 

 

GTA is a game first and foremost. It's not a lifestyle or a drug to become addicted to. 

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SummerFreeze
1 hour ago, Jenkiiii said:

Whatever your thoughts, in-game glitching has gotten much worse since the account resets.

It probably has, but it also depends who you're playing with. For me, nothing really changed, because nobody I regularly play with did the glitch. (I also would have told them not to do it, if they had found out about it.)

 

If they had done the glitch though, got reset, and are now glitching heist finales non-stop, then yeah, I'd probably not play the game until the December DLC. Or maybe once a week. I don't think this game is worth it as a solo experience.

 

18 minutes ago, AirWolf359 said:

I have seen this with some of my in-game friends. They play this game to escape their sh*tty real life, but it doesn't work that way. The more they played, the more depressed they got. For those who think this game cures depression: it doesn't, only causes more. Take a break, play something else or go outside.

I think it's the other way around. Depression leads to video game addiction. GTA Online is designed to be addictive, but it doesn't affect everyone who plays it, therefore it can't be the sole cause.

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The Jungz
1 hour ago, Jenkiiii said:

The reset has had the effect of making people more determined than ever before to generate as much glitched cash as possible, which is disturbing.

Rockstar is incredibly foolish for thinking their actions would lead to any other outcome.

 

This game is cancer, go play something else. Revisit old classics even and try to remember why you fell in love with gaming in the first place.

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URSLOR

Oh, geez. Not again...

 

Since you asked,

 

1) Why create another topic? :twak:

 

2) take a break already.

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kenmy13999
1 hour ago, Jenkiiii said:

I know this could come across as me being peevish or jealous, or maybe even contradictory to my previous opinions (feel free to say so) but the amount of cheating makes the game seem more and more worthless to me now. Doing simple things like Headhunter or a Business Battles for small change feels pointless. Literally, I have more cash than I can realistically spend (sorry for the boast), but seeing everyone generate a million or more in minutes and then repeat that over and over again, doing speed runs and competing with each other in the process

I know this might not be the answer you're looking for but imo you have absolutely no reason to complain about people making easy money since some of the cash you have more of than you can spend comes from some of the same activities as they do now 😊

 

It shouldn't come as a surprise people went this route now either, can't imagine a large % of the players that got a reset actually would want to start from scratch in this grindy game without any possibilities of boosting their income like this, this is all on R* for making the game the grindy mess it is now.  For everyone saying it's easier than ever to make money, try starting from scratch with a new character and log how many hours it takes you to get set with all properties and businesses you need to make all that "easy" money 😊

 

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Jenkiiii
34 minutes ago, The Jungz said:

This game is cancer...

That's a bit strong, isn't it :D.

 

Yeah, Rockstar got it all wrong with the resets IMHO. They took action that has actually galvanized the player base into cheating even harder than before, which makes an already very grindy and repetitive game even more sigh inducing.

 

They can't ban people because we are their customers and may never buy their products ever again.

 

However, the game will still be here in a year from now and people will still be cheating on it, unless they sort out their mess. Let's imagine buying the game for the first time in 2020 and buying a supplementary shark card to boost things along. Then what? Literally thousands of hours of grind, which seemed OK in 2013 to 2015, or cheat your way to the top? Or go full on rebel and migrate to fiveM or something similar? Either way, the game is financial nonsense when all you have to do is repeat Bogdan all night to earn tens of millions. Why would anyone in their right mind buy shark cards or grind when you can play like that?

 

22 minutes ago, URSLOR said:

Oh, geez. Not again...

Get out of here, you love it 😁.

 

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halapeno71

I play on my own, so whenever I read about stuff like this, it's like I'm reading news reports from foreign countries.   "God-mode?  God-Mode?!?  Man, sucks to be the people living in Freeroamia, Publiclobbyslovakia, I guess."

 

Money-exploits don't exist in this game when you don't acknowledge them.  If your friends won't allow for this then maybe you ought to consider keep different company. 

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Hellbendzor

I used to be a grinder as well, but since six months I took a drastical cut in playing GTA online. My kids play on my PC and it just grew on me. Don't feel the  need to play it and when I do it feels repetitive. I keep my cash around 100M and that's good enough for me. I'm back in my solo public sessions and I just

organize my stuff and keep my balance up. After 5500 in this game I think it's the right and only decision. There's more stuff than online gamine and working for online cash. 

 

The free GTA giveaway didn't help with the moneydroppers and scammers. Alot of my son's friends have multiple accounts, participate in the moneydrop sh*t and after a few days get banned. They just switch to another account and repeat. I keep my sh*t legit,but I can't justify investing too much time in this game anymore. It's all about balance and I spent way too much time in GTA. STill love the game, but on a much more healthy level (30 mins a day instead of 4-5 hrs)...

 

So yeah, Jenk... I understand your point... 🙂

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URSLOR

Yes, I love incessant whining about other peoples problems. You caught me.

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JOEsAGGRESSIVE

From personal experience when I took a break from GTA online I was also not here the 2 or so year(s) either. That seemed to enhance my pleasure once I finally got back into GTA online. I've never understood how some people claim to hate GTA and or Rockstar but are always in the GTA online section of this forum complaining about this or that, or seems to just be negative or nasty to those who actually enjoy this game or even dare I say it buy shark cards.

 

I apologize if I seem to be singling you out OP because that wasn't my intention. As far as the game feeling 'worthless' well that's subjective because I never saw anyone say this back in November of 2013 during the billionaire bounty days. People , myself included, saw those times as the most fun and enjoyable because everyone, for a short time at least, was playing the game how they wanted to or what was fun for them, even though there was basically nothing in the game of any substance.

 

So my advice would be that if you choose to break from GTA online you'd also choose to break from the GTA online section of this forum. That's what I did and GTA online has never been better since I came back.

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URSLOR
13 minutes ago, Hellbendzor said:

 STill love the game, but on a much more healthy level (30 mins a day instead of 4-5 hrs)...

I'm confused... do you spend 30 minutes total, or are you not counting the 15 minute cloud sim commercial before you get to play? 🤣

 

Hey, jenk, on a serious note... a few months ago I created a new account. Thing is, I only play it to get free log in gifts, race 2x and 3x events and other bonus stuff. I will play that account this week for 2x bunker event. I've only bought 2 or 3 things not on sale. I don't glitch, just grinding bunkers and nc.

 

Its refreshing bringing up a new character with this approach.

 

Just a thought. 

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Jenkiiii
13 minutes ago, halapeno71 said:

I play on my own, so whenever I read about stuff like this, it's like I'm reading news reports from foreign countries.   "God-mode?  God-Mode?!?  Man, sucks to be the people living in Freeroamia, Publiclobbyslovakia, I guess."

 

Money-exploits don't exist in this game when you don't acknowledge them.  If your friends won't allow for this then maybe you ought to consider keep different company. 

Thanks for your balanced option, I appreciate it.

 

My friends don't bother me; in fact I'm really grateful for them and couldn't got back to playing on my own like you do, but what does bother me is the tit for tat between my friends and Rockstar. Rockstar pull their pants down in public, so they resort to exploiting the game even harder. It's not just about GTA online, but video games in general that have gone way beyond that, as a place to meet up, compete and have fun, and right now I'm not having much fun because of the petty feuding. Rockstar had no right to take such extreme measures, but nor do I condone incessant cheating.

 

3 minutes ago, Hellbendzor said:

So yeah, Jenk... I understand your point... 🙂

Super appreciated, mate. I don't think there's much balance any more in GTA online. As someone else posted earlier today (thread now locked), he just wants to log in and have access to everything, but games have advanced to the point where they're now an industry and we're simply plodding away on the treadmill to reach the juicy peanut. What Rockstar did recently was to accelerate that treadmill and get people's attention, which was a clever/despicable marketing tactic, but it will only make people even more determined to crack their game and get equality. At the moment, many people feel like Rockstar have the upper hand even though they regularly give us incredible deals, 2X payouts, passive income, etc.

 

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suicidal_banana

Please use

or (the last thread you made about this?..)

or even

Thanks! :D 

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1 hour ago, AirWolf359 said:

I have seen this with some of my in-game friends. They play this game to escape their sh*tty real life, but it doesn't work that way. The more they played, the more depressed they got. For those who think this game cures depression: it doesn't, only causes more. Take a break, play something else or go outside.

 

Really depends on person and how is someone affected by depression. For me, this game indeed helped me with some hard times and my state of mind so to speak in february 2018. when i started my career in GTA Online. In some cases things that you perceive as a cure for depression can only amplify it, but for me this game helped and who knows where i would be or if i would be same person if i didn't start playing this game in that time period. I still mostly play online and these days even more than for example 6 months or year ago. You could even say I'm kinda addicted to it, but i really enjoy playing it at least for now and with casino  heist introduction, it's less of a grind than it was before, now only if new heist update this winter could be similar to casino heist, i can continue playing it for multiple hours daily.

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Standard Deluxe 59

Best advice I can give is, step away from the game for awhile. It gets old, tiresome and loses its fun factor the more often you play. Sometimes people you play with get old and you're suddenly less inclined to play with them, I think that's just how it goes as time passes on. It could also be that you're just getting older and gradually losing interest in playing this game as well. 

 

Long story short, take a break for awhile and come back when the desire to play returns. 

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Lonely-Martin

It's why I didn't gel with my attempts to crew up. I do admire the positives it can bring, but I much prefer to play my game of it and add up players that are similar.

 

I love co-op and team play of course, but I love my alone time too. I tend to gel best with players that are pretty independent and in a less committed way so no one gets miffed, frustrated, bored, compromised (like this by doing more glitching for example), or left out in situations like glitching or grinding or just doing anything they don't fancy while we each understand we'll all be back together again soon enough, sometimes a bigger group of us, other times we pair up alone or whatever takes our fancy. Take this week for example, I'll likely lose a couple buddies temporarily that'll want to maximise the bunker, I'll get back in touch with a few that wanna boost diamond loot from the casino, and it just changes about all the time given the weekly bonuses and what we fancy at the same time.

 

Was bad enough that I did grind for the Go-Go Blista, and though I tried the one glitch (the lost van), it's why I don't glitch cash or grind any either, it's boring. Take cash out of it, I can't just do the same activity all the time regardless, I have to mix it up, lol. And as I enjoy GTA, money will come like it always has. I've played long enough to know it's easy if you ignore the money aspect and just play for fun. 

 

On call can be awesome. If I do fancy some co-op and friends aren't available for any reason, on call I go. That or when I've had a busy spell and fancy a break, off I go too. My mates are the same and we know we'll hook up again soon enough. I prefer adding folk of similar mind and that are at home playing a bit of whatever but content alone too if I'm not or they're not in the mood for anything specific. No one gets grumpy, no one feels compelled to join in on activities they dislike or are bored of, you know?

 

I'd take a break or go it alone for a bit and let them figure it out for themselves for a spell. You didn't get wiped as you read your warning and opted not to glitch further, if they don't understand that you can help here and there but not full time, it'd be a shame, but you need to assert your limits on this somewhat as it'll hurt your game of it more and more. Potentially leading to fallout as friends become more expectant of you helping too.

 

But outside of you and your group, forget about others and how many there are glitching or grinding. I give it no thought and its never affected my game and won't, unless I want it to like I showed above where I tried a small grind or a little glitch.

 

To me, in general glitchin' and grindin' just don't exist in my GTA:O, I tune out if any buddies talk of any, and skip over posts here that highlight any too. I'm sitting on $164m and change, hundreds of unlockables like this week's Kill Bill outfit and more, all the toys I built up along the way too and I love being in this position and enjoy helping players hit co-op goals, but I still just like to play my game all too much. My main goal currently us $175m, then I'll rethink that probably to $200m, lol. (Though I would like a good stash for next gen just in case the worst happens and lobby choice go from the game and it becomes more like RDRO - I never, ever ever ever, want to rely on public businesses, lol).

 

When ya jump on next, hide 'offline' and just mix it up and have some alone time. Smash some noobs on races, the arena or DMs, add up a complete noob that's stuck on a Fleeca or something and teach them to not rely on glitches as best as, or chip away at a few awards or other goals you might fancy. It helps to play your game for you at least a little. :)

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Jenkiiii
8 minutes ago, Standard Deluxe 59 said:

Best advice I can give is, step away from the game for awhile. It gets old, tiresome and loses its fun factor the more often you play. Sometimes people you play with get old and you're suddenly less inclined to play with them, I think that's just how it goes as time passes on. It could also be that you're just getting older and gradually losing interest in playing this game as well. 

 

Long story short, take a break for awhile and come back when the desire to play returns. 

Good advice to everyone, buddy, thanks.

 

Recent weeks have made me realize just how anal this game is. As an observer, I'm totally exhausted.

 

And thanks @Lonely-Martinfor the added perspective. Much appreciated, man.

 

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Mayochiki
1 hour ago, SummerFreeze said:

I think it's the other way around. Depression leads to video game addiction. GTA Online is designed to be addictive, but it doesn't affect everyone who plays it, therefore it can't be the sole cause.

Depression leads to escapism, it doesn't have to be this game or even videogames. The problem comes when you're playing a sh*tty game that treats you like an asshole and make it a part of your routine. You wanted to escape your routine, not create a new one.

 

In any case, I've found this game is best enjoyed when you stop taking it seriously. I certainly didn't use exploits back then for some sense of superiority, I just wanted to get rid of the paywall limitations so I could truly play the game. When people turn this into a war to screw R*ckstar is when you start to take things seriously. It's a f*cking videogame, you're losing against the big corporate the second you play, anyway. Some people found a way to enjoy the game by making glitching their playstyle and that's valid. I still find rewarding when I get 500k with missions than 100 million with a glitch I've been repeating mechanically over and over. I think it's all valid as long as you don't interfere with how others play. I don't care about godmode abusing or money/RP exploits, just don't use them to affect others.

 

The glitching community has an entitled attitude that I just don't like. It's not even a matter of low payouts, people just want the easier way. Of course the wipe affected and made some people drop the game whereas others had to go back to glitching, but that was to be expected.

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11 minutes ago, Jenkiiii said:

My friends don't bother me; in fact I'm really grateful for them and couldn't got back to playing on my own like you do, what does bother me is the tit for tat between my friends and Rockstar.

I didn't suggest you play on your own.  I suggested you consider keeping different company.  You say that your friends don't bother you, but their pissing match with R* clearly does.  Well, there's nothing you can do about R*, but you can attempt to meet new players.

 

Although, to be honest, I'm not even sure why any of this bothers you in the first place.  If it was a situation where your buddies stopped doing things with you that you enjoy because they're now too preoccupied with money glitching, then that I could understand.  It seems though, like you're more annoyed because the money glitching is, to your mind, devaluing your own in-game wealth.  And you seem be laying the entirety of the blame for that at R*'s feet. 

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gtmike

Sounds like a sad grinder thought he was finally going to stick it to his glitcher friends, but is now salty that they easily recovered, and are still having more fun than him....

 

Grinding has always been a worthless pursuit.

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5 minutes ago, gtmike said:

Sounds like a sad grinder thought he was finally going to stick it to his glitcher friends, but is now salty that they easily recovered, and are still having more fun than him....

 

Grinding has always been a worthless pursuit.

"Stick it" is a bit harsh, but you've hit the nail on the head, thanks. Last night we were joking about maybe resetting my account back to zero too, but I instead bid my farewells and watched a film instead :D.

 

To give you and others more perspective: I play in a regular racing crew and we have regular events and playlists on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. I'm now feeling more inclined to log on, do the events and then log off again, which is great, as I really don't want to get caught up in the battle for cash against corporate T2 greed. I've helped out and offered my support, but it's dragging me down a bit, although I do enjoy the chat and shallow banter with my online mates.

 

Thanks, folks, I appreciate all the gentlemanly and ladylike conduct.

 

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YELLOW ZOOMER WITH DRONE

I mean, I can understand why you friend's pissing contest with R* may aggravate you because of how ultimately pointless it is, but at the end of the day why do you let that bother you, your relationship with your friends and your enjoyment of the game?

 

At the end of the day, as long as they don't really affect anyone (except maybe themselves?), there's nothing for you to worry about, but if you still feel worried about it, maybe the best course of action would be for you to take a break, maybe when you (hopefully) come back, you'll do it with a new perspective and less worries.

 

I've taken several breaks in the past from this game, some voluntary and some not so much (I still miss my PS4 😢 ) and every time I come back I do it with a new attitude or at least less bored that last time lol

 

Nowadays the only things I do is to spin the Lucky Wheel, drive around and kill NPCs in Business Battles (while not even caring about the Cargo itself most of the time), I rarely sell, I rarely even help others sell (even if I'm im a grinding crew, go figure), I don't even fight back when attacked most of the time (because if I do, it quickly degenerates into tryhard nonsense and that sh*t bores me to death) and honest to dog, I don't give a f*ck anymore and I enjoy the game more than ever.

 

That doesn't mean that I suddenly don't care about the problems of this game, far from it, I still recognize them and talk about them, I just don't let them annoy them that much anymore in the game itself, I reserve my vitriol for this forum instead (not really lol)

 

Just my $0.02, as always.

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URSLOR
1 hour ago, Jenkiiii said:

 I play in a regular racing crew and we have regular events and playlists on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. 

Oh. You're in CRE8. #metoo

 

Didn't know that crew was full of cheaters. (Shut up, they are cheaters if they were glitching.)

 

Holy sh*tballs!

 

You're almost level 1,500!!

 

/respect 🤘

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You might well have set out to be apart from the original B&M but unfortunately the replies have been less than constructive, especially towards the back-end of the topic. It feels redundant to link it but just in case people don't know, there is an entire topic where you can let off some steam. At this point, there's no point in keeping this topic open because we all know where this is going to end up.

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