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VanCrio

Free Gold - AFK in PvP matches

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VanCrio

Hello Guys,

 

Why isn't Rockstar addressing the AFKers in PvP matches? Especially the Featured Series. The thing is, whatever you do in this match, even AFK you still get the gold. This causes massive amount of people to just AFK and move once in a while to not get kicked. In my last match 14 of 16 people were standing still and not playing at all. What the heck is wrong with the Developers? Dont they see that they lose money? Its so easy to grind, just leave your game online and go do anything else. This is literally breaking this game...

 

Is it bothering anybody else at all?

 

Cheers,

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gtmike

So exactly how much gold can you make doing this per hour? Asking for a friend.

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Direwrath

They do this with the races too? I don't think there's much they can do about it though, if the players wanna be standing targets than that's on them. I suck at the pvp shooting matches and still at least try to make something of it.

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AStiffBreeze

At least it makes some of the daily challenges easier to do 😁

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Lonely-Martin

It really is a shame, more so on team modes as it's really hard to try playing when you're teammates aren't if the opposition outnumbers you so. As @Direwrath said above, if folk wanna just stand around and get killed, that's on them, but it does take all the fun out of it for anyone looking for a game of it.

 

Granted, I don't PvP much and I dislike they way its all basically on rotation rather than pick the modes/races players want that I avoid these modes, but there's definitely room for good PvP modes for those keen in this game of course.

 

It comes from GTA:O and those 2x/3x weekly bonuses and grown since (at least with R*'s games, maybe other games have these issues too). Many saw how expensive things got over there and how the phone nags players until they buy all the content like businesses and this game isn't flawless on that front either though naturally no phone calls, lol.

 

Many probably just feel they need to build a huge stash of cash/gold for future content and as R* haven't done much since GTA:O to address AFK play like this, not that I can think of much they could do, it's only growing really.

 

Plus it's easy and risk free compared to glitching and all that. Grinding, AFKing, griefing, it's all just anti-gaming to me. Not why I play, lol.

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rinzu
4 hours ago, gtmike said:

So exactly how much gold can you make doing this per hour? Asking for a friend.

Made about 200gb this week with 2x bonus. Before this when the hardcore series launched with the 3x bonus made around 400gb.

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I'd rather afk because you can't actually play the pvp modes without a scriptkiddie joining and ruining the game. 

As the person below me explain, only worth it if there's a bonus going on or you're really desperate. Without bonuses lobbies are dead on pc so you can't really afk because you get put in free roam.

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kcole4001
1 hour ago, Direwrath said:

They do this with the races too? I don't think there's much they can do about it though, if the players wanna be standing targets than that's on them. I suck at the pvp shooting matches and still at least try to make something of it.

It's been going on in races since the PC drop in November, likely before that on console.


 

4 hours ago, gtmike said:

So exactly how much gold can you make doing this per hour? Asking for a friend.

You make 0.08G per race/showdown normally.

Max time on a race is 15 or 16 minutes, plus the time for matchmaking in between, so 20 minutes per engagement max?  0.24G per hour?

Payout is small, but minimal effort.

I suppose the amount gained depends on whether they play actively and how long they go without disconnections.

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Rev. Gnash
3 minutes ago, rinzu said:

Made about 200gb this week with 2x bonus. Before this when the hardcore series launched with the 3x bonus made around 400gb. I'd rather afk because you can't actually play the pvp modes without a scriptkiddie joining and ruining the game.

Impressive - PC?

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rinzu
Just now, Rev. Gnash said:

Impressive - PC?

ye got a script that puts me back in a game if I get dc'ed or my game crashes. Plus I only play to do my dailies so its running 24x7. 

 

 

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kcole4001
2 hours ago, Direwrath said:

They do this with the races too? I don't think there's much they can do about it though, if the players wanna be standing targets than that's on them. I suck at the pvp shooting matches and still at least try to make something of it.

Same.

I only play showdowns when I feel like it and then only for dailies, maybe rarely to check out something I haven't tried.

Master Archer is fun...usually.

But then that's a Freeroam event, of course.

I do enjoy target races, especially open target races, quite challenging.

 

When I do play 'em I play to win, I may not be much help, but I do my best.

 

I am aware that real pvp players detest having AFKers in their showdowns, it totally unbalances the teams.

I have experienced this doing an Overrun for a daily with 3 AFKers on my team, we lost hard.

 

It drags out the races unless there's enough players that finish, which is actually beneficial to the AFKers as well.

In races it really doesn't matter if they're there, actually probably helps fill out the races faster than if they weren't, but you have to wait out the timer at the back end.

It may or may not make it quicker, not sure.

 

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4 minutes ago, rinzu said:

ye got a script that puts me back in a game if I get dc'ed or my game crashes. Plus I only play to do my dailies so its running 24x7. 

 

 

The script doesn't flag you as cheating, I assume?

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rinzu
6 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

~snip~

 

The script doesn't flag you as cheating, I assume?

nah. 

edit- removed software name because I am too lazy to read forum rules.

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kcole4001
6 minutes ago, rinzu said:

nah. ahk.

OK.

I wasn't going to do it, just curious.

 

To be clear, I have no ill will against AFKers personally.

As I said, I prefer races, and I don't mind if there are non-participating participants, I just wish the races would finish faster, which would be beneficial to all.

16 minutes is WAY too long to wait for a race that takes 8 minutes max if you crash or are shot a lot.

 

Also the game shouldn't put players right into an already ongoing race/showdown, just wait for the next one to start.

There are insignificant benefits from being a late entry, and the daily challenges don't count either, so it's a complete waste of time except for that measly 0.08 payout.

I have actually started a race almost 12 minutes in once, more than 5 minutes in many, many times.

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rinzu
10 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

OK.

I wasn't going to do it, just curious.

 

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Yea I agree with you, I personally love pvp. My previous forum posts agree with that. But when 90% of the players are afk-ing, other 5% are script-kiddies and the last 5% are legit players you might as well join the afk players.

The second/third day of the 3x bonus when I found out about the new pvp mode(first week of naturalist update?) the first game I joined everyone was already afk-ing. 

 

Just clicked this now lmao

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kcole4001
7 minutes ago, rinzu said:

Yea I agree with you, I personally love pvp. My previous forum posts agree with that. But when 90% of the players are afk-ing, other 5% are script-kiddies and the last 5% are legit players you might as well join the afk players.

The second/third day of the 3x bonus when I found out about the new pvp mode(first week of naturalist update?) the first game I joined everyone was already afk-ing. 

 

 

 

I think maybe that just goes with the 2 or 3X territory, same in GTA.

Maybe things will even out a bit after the bonus is gone?

 

I do know some prominent pvp youtubers are petitioning R* to do something about it.

 

I mostly doubt if anything will be done, but since it's earning gold it might.

They certainly have no interest in preventing cheaters, just catching them after the fact, and that's absolutely NOT the same thing.

 

if you could pick the mode you enter it would be much better, just don't join team modes so AFKers don't effect you, but we're likely not going to get that option.

 

Hardcore mode looks like it would be decent, I'm waiting until it's settled in a bit before I try it.

So much depends on the skill level of the others.

If it's mainly mediocre players I have fun, but if it's too hard or too easy it's boring.

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rinzu
4 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

I think maybe that just goes with the 2 or 3X territory.

Maybe things will even out a bit after the bonus is gone?

 

I do know some prominent pvp youtubers are petitioning R* to do something about it.

 

I mostly doubt if anything will be done, but since it's earning gold it might.

They certainly have no interest in preventing cheaters, just catching them after the fact, and that's absolutely NOT the same thing.

if you could pick the mode you enter it would be much better, just don't join team modes so AFKers don't effect you, but we're likely not going to get that option.

 

Hardcore mode looks like it would be decent, I'm waiting until it's settled in a bit before I try it.

So much depends on the skill level of the others.

If it's mainly mediocre players I have fun, but if it's too hard or too easy it's boring.

If it doesn't get patched next major update I'll actually be really surprised. Hardcore is f*cking awesome bro, Its just filled with scriptkiddies on pc. Also OnlyPvPCat is goat.

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kcole4001
1 minute ago, rinzu said:

If it doesn't get patched next major update I'll actually be really surprised. Hardcore is f*cking awesome bro, Its just filled with scriptkiddies on pc. Also OnlyPvPCat is goat.

Yeah, next update is likely December, so at 200+ gold per week a lot of people are gonna be ready.

 

Hardcore has been heavily requested, good to know it's living up to expectations, I've seen mixed reviews, but on what basis of qualifiers it's hard to say.

 

PvPCat certainly knows his sh*t!   🙂

He's really good for a lot of reviews and comparisons.

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VanCrio
7 hours ago, Direwrath said:

They do this with the races too? I don't think there's much they can do about it though, if the players wanna be standing targets than that's on them. I suck at the pvp shooting matches and still at least try to make something of it.

I am sure there are a lot of ways to patch it up. But from what I can see Rockstar just doesn't care. There are so many bugs that are just there for months and not fixed. Its a shame that they do not put so much effort in this game like in GTAV. Probably coz RDR2 doesn't make so much money as the latter I reckon.

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No Homing

I understand low lvls do this, but I have seen lvl 600s do this and I don't understand why they need more gold? Surely they have enough? And I've seen them before so they do it more often.

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kcole4001
5 hours ago, No Homing said:

I understand low lvls do this, but I have seen lvl 600s do this and I don't understand why they need more gold? Surely they have enough? And I've seen them before so they do it more often.

When I used to do races regularly I'd see many of the same names, most were mid level, but there were a significant number higher than me.

I'm at 445 now, pushing on to 2000 gold, but it's entirely from putting in the hours and actually playing.

I actually enjoy the variety of activities I do that bring in gold, i do the dailies I like and ignore the ones I don't.

 

Same with GTA, I never AFK'd, I just can't see me doing that, I'd rather play, and if I don't want to play, then I do something else.

I didn't buy these games to farm money/gold, I did it to enjoy the content, naturally you need the money/gold to be able to use the content, but I like roaming through the game world and being familiar with it's places, I absolutely love both maps, but that's just me.

 

To each their own.

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pariah87

People actually play PvP modes on open world games?

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Grottomacy

this happened in destiny 2 as well add a spicy reward to a god awful unbearable gamemode and its a recipe for disaster people dont wanna play but its easy gold

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fryday
7 hours ago, pariah87 said:

People actually play PvP modes on open world games?

Simple answer: yes, they do 😉

21 hours ago, No Homing said:

I understand low lvls do this, but I have seen lvl 600s do this and I don't understand why they need more gold? Surely they have enough? And I've seen them before so they do it more often.

With Money Comes greed 😉 but I was Farming Dollars in GTA too, its Kind of addictive...

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