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Kubigz

Location of [SPOILER] home is silly

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Kubigz

I'm talking about Marston and Beecher's Hope. Don't you think it's dumb to build a house 5 minutes from the town where you participated in slaughter 7 years ago? And John also got there a huge loan. Lmao.

I know it's forced by the events of RDR1, because later story probably wasn't in scripters heads yet, but they could think about it and move Blackwater Massacre to somewhere else.

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Dan_1983

John isn't the sharpest tool in the box.

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TheShape2020

The best place to hide is under their noses. And besides the Pinkertons didn't know he was there until he killed Micah 

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Kubigz

He could've got exposed in many ways, for example someone might recognize him. Don't forget there was a bounty on him. Everybody knows "hide in plain sight' rule, that's why John shouldn't be using it.

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McAgent

Let's not forget that John borrowed money from the bank using his real name. It's a wonder he didn't get caught almost immediately.

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TheShape2020

One thing I never understood is why did Edgar Ross wait 4 years to make a move on John when he found him at the end of RDR2? 

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Red_hot_redemption
9 minutes ago, TheShape2020 said:

One thing I never understood is why did Edgar Ross wait 4 years to make a move on John when he found him at the end of RDR2? 

 Could it be because that's how long it took him to track down Dutch? When John kills Mica, Dutch just walks off and could have gone anywhere, and then resurfaces a few years later in Cochinay

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TheShape2020
4 minutes ago, Red_hot_redemption said:

 Could it be because that's how long it took him to track down Dutch? When John kills Mica, Dutch just walks off and could have gone anywhere, and then resurfaces a few years later in Cochinay

Yeah that makes sense. Maybe they didn't know the exact location of bill or Javier either.   

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Mysterious hero
9 hours ago, TheShape2020 said:

One thing I never understood is why did Edgar Ross wait 4 years to make a move on John when he found him at the end of RDR2? 

It all has to do with Nate Johns'. He wants to clean the local areas of crime so that he can be Governor of West Elizabeth.

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Dan_1983
9 hours ago, TheShape2020 said:

Yeah that makes sense. Maybe they didn't know the exact location of bill or Javier either.   

Didn't Javier mention that Dutch was in Colombia at one point?

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Mirror Park Resident
10 hours ago, Red_hot_redemption said:

 Could it be because that's how long it took him to track down Dutch? When John kills Mica, Dutch just walks off and could have gone anywhere, and then resurfaces a few years later in Cochinay

Exactly. They didn't want John per se, and had no purpose in getting him right away.

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Kubigz
22 minutes ago, Dan_1983 said:

Didn't Javier mention that Dutch was in Colombia at one point?

I think he was just lying to John in order to save his own ass.

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TheShape2020
1 hour ago, Kubigz said:

I think he was just lying to John in order to save his own ass.

Yeah they clearly weren't riding together anymore, so like was Dutch and Javier sending each other messages or something lol  

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GroveStGTAV

I think reason of tracking down john marston after 4 years is; Bill williamson and dutch.

Bill created his own ruthless and rapist gang terrorized new austin region.

Dutch recruited natives and maybe remaining members of the skinner brothers and a new Dutch’s gang returned in the tall trees area.

If these two was lie low like charles and sadie; federal agents could leave john alone

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Darealbandicoot
On 9/3/2020 at 7:42 AM, Kubigz said:

I'm talking about Marston and Beecher's Hope. Don't you think it's dumb to build a house 5 minutes from the town where you participated in slaughter 7 years ago? And John also got there a huge loan. Lmao.

I know it's forced by the events of RDR1, because later story probably wasn't in scripters heads yet, but they could think about it and move Blackwater Massacre to somewhere else.

Because Dutchs gang didn't have anything to do with the massacre in RDR1. It's honestly very silly they retconned this into Dutchs gang doing it 

On 9/4/2020 at 9:43 AM, Red_hot_redemption said:

 Could it be because that's how long it took him to track down Dutch? When John kills Mica, Dutch just walks off and could have gone anywhere, and then resurfaces a few years later in Cochinay

In RDR1 they didn't track him down until 1911. Rdr2 retconned this into 1907 but they didn't do anything until 1911 for whatever reason 

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RJX74
On 9/3/2020 at 2:42 AM, Kubigz said:

I'm talking about Marston and Beecher's Hope. Don't you think it's dumb to build a house 5 minutes from the town where you participated in slaughter 7 years ago? And John also got there a huge loan. Lmao.

I know it's forced by the events of RDR1, because later story probably wasn't in scripters heads yet, but they could think about it and move Blackwater Massacre to somewhere else.

John actually left the Southern US (the game map) for 7 years and lived in the Yukon for a bit. Should have just stayed away.

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Mysterious hero
10 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

In RDR1 they didn't track him down until 1911. Rdr2 retconned this into 1907 but they didn't do anything until 1911 for whatever reason 

Archer: I hope you're ready to finish this mess.

John: Anything to get you sons-of-bitches off my back.

Archer: There's always somebody watching, Mr. Marston. I thought you'd have gleaned that much by now.

John: You think you're so clever, don't you?

Archer: No, it's you who thought you were clever. You thought you could just walk away from your old life. Make no mistake, we have been watching.

 

Sounds like to me they've been watching him for a while. Like I said, the reason why Ross made John hunt down Dutch and Bill in 1911 was for Nate Johns' campaign to become Governor.

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Cutter De Blanc
19 hours ago, RJX74 said:

John actually left the Southern US (the game map) for 7 years and lived in the Yukon for a bit. Should have just stayed away.

I got the impression that Johnny Dipsh*t couldnt keep his gun in his pants, and ended up getting them in trouble up north

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SneakyDeaky
On 9/6/2020 at 7:13 PM, Cutter De Blanc said:

I got the impression that Johnny Dipsh*t couldnt keep his gun in his pants, and ended up getting them in trouble up north

John/Jim was so stupid about it even Sadie knew he had killed a man up North. He's an idiot. 

 

Then he walks into a bank and uses his real name and signs papers. I love John but it's pitiful. 

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