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TheFranchise

Rockstar has brought the glitching epidemic upon itself.. Honestly, I sympathize with the people who got reset. Here's why.

 

When this game came out, it was fun. Sure you had to grind a bit to afford stuff, but it wasn't a grinding/ delivery boy simulator. Cars and vehicles were not insanely expensive. Fast forward 7 years later and look where we are? 

 

Cars can cost several million dollars. It can take hours to grind just for one vehicle. People have jobs. Longtime fans of this series have kids and families and careers. They do not have the time grind day in and day out. People have lives. Sure you can buy a shark card, but those are ripoffs anymore as well. 8 million for a $100? Are you kidding me? 

 

Rockstar and T2 have made hundreds of millions, if not over a billion, in Shark Card revenue over the last 7 years. And that's not enough apparently, considering the way they operate their business! T2 has been consumed by greed. This game is designed to irritate and railroad you into buying shark cards. And, the shark card money they give you for the amount you fork over isn't worth sh*t. 

 

So yeah, I sympathize with the people who got reset because Rockstar and T2 greed have made my sympathize. This game shouldn't feel like a 2nd job and yet it does. So anytime someone finds an exploit or a glitch that earns them money, my hats off to them. Rockstar has only themselves to blame. The economy they have built encourages it. I hope when they reopen the character transfer tool for the PS5 and XBX, they get rammed up the ass again with people bringing over hundreds of millions in illicit money, just like what had happened with last gen to current gen. I have no sympathy for Rockstar. 

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FuturePastNow

I doesn't directly affect me, I have plenty of money which is all as legit as it needs to be. Everything in the game is so expensive, and most activities in the game are so unrewarding, that I can't blame anyone for doing glitches to get money. They don't hurt me any. I did it plenty in the distant past- enough that I got money (but not properties, they weren't doing that yet) wiped a few years ago.

 

I also have no sympathy for Rockstar, but clearly, if they're now doing character resets- effectively bans without the ban- these glitches have become too dangerous. Except the Bogdan one, which they seem unable to detect and stop. The game design of GTAO, from a time/reward standpoint, really sucks.

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Posted (edited)
16 hours ago, The Jungz said:

It is different and in no way a generalization. I've given Rockstar 60$ and at the time, it was a deserved purchase. Over the years, however, they've made it very clear that they want all of my money, not just a mere sixty bucks. And so they haven't gotten anymore out of me. They won't get me to buy the Remastered Remaster version and I won't be getting the next Grand Theft Auto because I already know its going to be a product of inferior quality to what we currently have, if that's even possible. I'm far from being the problem. If anything, the only problem I'm giving Rockstar is me glitching millions over and over again and them not being able to do a thing about it.
 

It's not hard to predict what Rockstar's plans are. Just like I knew Red Dead Online was going to be an unmitigated disaster before the game even released. I knew Rockstar were just going to lazily copy & paste the formula of GTA Online and apply it to Red Dead and that it obviously wouldn't work. I knew they'd still support GTA much more than Red Dead instead of trying to make both work on a similar scale. 
 

I think it's pretty clear where Rockstar are headed and the only way to make them understand that the direction they're taking isn't the right one for fans of their games is to stop shoveling money at their face. If you see the writings on the wall, then stop buying shark cards because if not, you're letting Rockstar know that what we have at the moment is perfectly acceptable. 

You said that people who buy shark cards have no place critiquing the game, but why do you think your opinion matters to Rockstar when you still do glitches? I could understand someone who have done a glitch before and has since stopped or someone who didn't buy shark cards neither did he do glitches, but I don't get where you going with this, are you saying you are finally done with Rockstar? or do you want them to change? But does that have to happen while you are busy glitching?

 

If the shark cards buyers wouldn't have a place, would you have one? If yes, is it because there's an ounce of hope you would stop doing glitches and come back to them, thus Rockstar should reserve the place and keep it clean and tidy until that moment when they finally regain your contentment?

 

The way I see it, shark cards buyers have a place to critique the game, the same place you currently reside in as a glitcher. Yes, I do agree with you that they should stop buying shark cards if Rockstar doesn't listen, but if a fool keeps doing that, he's probably holding on the ounce of hope that one day Strauss Zelnick will show up, give him a hug and claim he was right all along, the same dream you had when you were busy glitching.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Pedinhuh said:

The Adder was ALWAYS viable for highway races all the up until the Cuning Stunts update, where it was dethroned by the 811.

In fact, it was the undisputed supercar king on those races...For all the other tracks it was sh*t but it's also worth to add that the Adder was actually a fair and balanced car, because the supercar class was balanced.

 

The Club is overpriced AND overpowered as hell, seriously, it's 4 seconds faster than the previous fastest compact car in the class, and that car didn't cost you an arm and a leg to purchase.

 

Fair point and I won't dispute that since I never enjoyed grinding contact missions, but if you're considering "Heists done right" here, then I'll mention that heists are present in this game since 2015.

 

One Pacific Standard heist and the host should have enough money(assuming a 70/10/10/10 cut) to buy ALL of the Compact cars and get the fastest one maxed out.

 

Nowadays, with doing a heist that PAYS MORE, you can buy ONE compact.

Please tell me where you can find a competent heist crew that takes 10% each and let the host walk away with 70?

I personally don't heist with randoms for less than 15, and I see plenty of randoms who won't take less than 20 or leave.

And yes, even with friends, and even though I don't need the money, I always take 15 just because time is money.

I will only do prison break for free because no one grinds that, even when double.

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Pedinhuh
2 minutes ago, AirWolf359 said:

Please tell me where you can find a competent heist crew that takes 10% each and give the host 70

Friends and crews, I used to do them back to back with a crew I was in up until the moment I did the Criminal Mastermind challenge, then I quit the OG heists for a lot of time, nowadays I only bother to do the Casino heist.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, NChabb said:

Is this the first time a mass character wipe is occuring on consoles?

Not at all.

 

The only time I personally had money deducted was because of the same reason most if not all of the First-Gen players had, when Bounties were getting modded to be worth $2b+ combined with people using the Share Cash option to give other players Shark killer money. This was the first major money issue the game had ever seen, but by the time Rockstar got around to putting an end to it, players had already bought out the entire Warstock catalogue, which is why there's never been an option to sell those. Back then, they didn't send the servers back in time, but they amazingly removed the exact amount of money that was a modded bounty or gifted to you, leaving you with with any legit money you had and had earned since.

 

In recent times, the first major case of anyone who partook in a money glitch getting Thanos Snapped, rather than just Money Wiped was the Lester Locate A Plane Refund Glitch, (the one where mass groups of players would stand around in a hangar at LSIA in passive mode). Now, anyone who can take a telling could see Rockstar were not f*cking around with major money exploits like that anymore, even though the payout was a mere GTA$200 every few seconds... so imagine the hysterical levels of hysteria when a few months later, players who didn't take said telling decided it'd be a great idea to perform an exploit where the Casino would repeatedly cash out Chips at the same rate the previous glitch refunded you the $200.

 

Yes.... what you had was players suddenly glitching themselves any amount of money they wanted ($1, $100, $1,000,000 or even more) every few seconds, and the salt was unlike anything GTA Onlne had ever seen when they got Character Wiped a few weeks later. This was happening of course despite how amazingly popular the Lester Refund glitch was and the way Rockstar "fixed it" was simply to make vehicle spawning services cost $0, rather than the standard $200.

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42 minutes ago, TheFranchise said:

Rockstar has brought the glitching epidemic upon itself.. Honestly, I sympathize with the people who got reset. Here's why.

 

When this game came out, it was fun. Sure you had to grind a bit to afford stuff, but it wasn't a grinding/ delivery boy simulator. Cars and vehicles were not insanely expensive. Fast forward 7 years later and look where we are? 

 

Cars can cost several million dollars. It can take hours to grind just for one vehicle. People have jobs. Longtime fans of this series have kids and families and careers. They do not have the time grind day in and day out. People have lives. Sure you can buy a shark card, but those are ripoffs anymore as well. 8 million for a $100? Are you kidding me? 

 

Rockstar and T2 have made hundreds of millions, if not over a billion, in Shark Card revenue over the last 7 years. And that's not enough apparently, considering the way they operate their business! T2 has been consumed by greed. This game is designed to irritate and railroad you into buying shark cards. And, the shark card money they give you for the amount you fork over isn't worth sh*t. 

 

So yeah, I sympathize with the people who got reset because Rockstar and T2 greed have made my sympathize. This game shouldn't feel like a 2nd job and yet it does. So anytime someone finds an exploit or a glitch that earns them money, my hats off to them. Rockstar has only themselves to blame. The economy they have built encourages it. I hope when they reopen the character transfer tool for the PS5 and XBX, they get rammed up the ass again with people bringing over hundreds of millions in illicit money, just like what had happened with last gen to current gen. I have no sympathy for Rockstar. 

 

So much this, I ride my Bati a lot these days during missions and heists and whatnot. I have to actually try again, or get on my rocketbike and close my eyes and its over.

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NChabb
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Zak Ras said:

Not at all.

Yes.... what you had was players suddenly glitching themselves any amount of money they wanted ($1, $100, $1,000,000 or even more) every few seconds, and the salt was unlike anything GTA Onlne had ever seen when they got Character Wiped a few weeks later. This was happening of course despite how amazingly popular the Lester Refund glitch was and the way Rockstar "fixed it" was simply to make vehicle spawning services cost $0, rather than the standard $200.

I don't recall character wipe for that one. But then, I'm not an active glitch seeker neither ahah.

 

I guess I'm just surprised because I was convinced character wipes were PC exclusive. I don't recall them happening on PS4 ever, but I'll take your words for it.

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- I misread that -

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Tez2
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Jenkiiii said:

let's consider Rockstar's buggy code that allowed people to glitch in the first place. Now, I'm not a complete dimwit and I appreciate that if you find an illegal way of making money not originally programmed into the game, you should avoid it and maybe even report it, not exploit it, but it still doesn't excuse Rockstar for releasing code that's not fully bug tested and then getting majorly shirty at people who find glitches. Rockstar made a programming mistake, and their approach to that was to punish people at an overly extreme level. I mean, are Rockstar not partly complicit in all of this by publishing shoddy code in an official DLC?

 

Do you think that Rockstar are that callous to punish gamers for exploiting their own coding mistakes?

I would deduce the game is at such state, because bugs are inevitable, but I do concur with your concern to Rockstar approach to declaring punishments. It is often seen, with every easy-to-do glitch, that there are first timers and for the first offense to be met with a character wipe, only makes things worse ahead by flaming up the public reaction.

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Black-Dragon96
1 hour ago, Ghoffman9 said:

Its not that simple, we don't truly know how long that glitch existed, only when it was discovered. Glitches can go on for years without being discovered. Just check out the speed running community for the many games out there who use glitches that were not revealed until many years later. Decades even.

If they can reset people because they did the glitch they know when they did it. That means they know when it started.

I'm also pretty confident that it happend with the summer update, for the simple reason that they made changes to the propertys.

There is also a second reason. These glitches go viral in mere hours after they are first found, because everybody and their dog scrambles to get some free cash.

 

1 hour ago, Ghoffman9 said:

They can't roll back on an individual basis for every player to a specific point in time long ago, something extremely complicated and most likely not possible or feasible. That requires storing a ridiculous amount of data from millions of players spanning many months.

They can and they did.

The dlc is 20 days old (not many months) so thats 20/21 savegames at most. Savegames are generally not that big so its not a ridiculous amount of data. And they apparently store plenty of data to know who did the glitch.

 

1 hour ago, Ghoffman9 said:

Even games like World of Warcraft don't memorize the items you sell or disenchant going all the way back to the first day you log on. They give you about a two month span before an item is removed completely and cannot even be restored with item restoration. There are limits and Wow is a full fledged MMOPRG with dedicated servers. What do you think the capabilities of a game with peer to peer servers are?

And a game having dedicated servers matters why exactly?

We are talking about cloudsaves here. Something every modern game has, no matter if per to per or on a dedicated server.

Savegames from 2 months ago would be enough considering the dlc came out 20 days ago.

Games like The Division 2 show that it is possible (as pointed out a few posts up) if the developer cares enough about its customers. You can store the needed data, you can roll back individual accounts, you can punish people without going the lazy way and just setting them to zilch.

All you have to do is to get off your arse and give a single f*ck about your customers.

 

R* could do it aswell, but as a matter of fact they dont care enough to do so since there is no money in it. That was apparent the day they stoped temp bans and instead started resetting first time offenders along with their "no appeal" policy that f*cks false positives over.

 

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The Jungz
1 hour ago, Fun 2 said:

You said that people who buy shark cards have no place critiquing the game, but why do you think your opinion matters to Rockstar when you still do glitches? I could understand someone who have done a glitch before and has since stopped or someone who didn't buy shark cards neither did he do glitches, but I don't get where you going with this, are you saying you are finally done with Rockstar? or do you want them to change? But does that have to happen while you are busy glitching?

 

If the shark cards buyers wouldn't have a place, would you have one? If yes, is it because there's an ounce of hope you would stop doing glitches and come back to them, thus Rockstar should reserve the place and keep it clean and tidy until that moment when they finally regain your contentment?

 

The way I see it, shark cards buyers have a place to critique the game, the same place you currently reside in as a glitcher. Yes, I do agree with you that they should stop buying shark cards if Rockstar doesn't listen, but if a fool keeps doing that, he's probably holding on the ounce of hope that one day Strauss Zelnick will show up, give him a hug and claim he was right all along, the same dream you had when you were busy glitching.

I do not find myself living any metaphorical dream and your arbitrary assumptions have brought, so far, nothing substantial to the conversation. 

 

I'm a very vindictive individual I'll admit and I get a hell of a kick in glitching money when I know Rockstar hates that. There is something very satisfying in playing a game a way you aren't supposed to.


Do I cling on to a hope that one day Rockstar will magically revert into the company that they once were? No. I've long since accepted that they'll never deliver us games of the same quality as they once did. The departure of Dan Houser and Lazlow further cementing this sentiment.

 

And you're absolutely right, my opinion holds no ground to Rockstar, yours as well. Or any shark card customer for that matter. The only thing that they care about is money. 

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MaddenedGhost

I'm late to this, I have seen the people whining and complaining about their stuff being taken away.

This is the exact same thing as the Casino chips, only difference is this one was a lot riskier because the game is constantly registering your transactions, highly traceable glitch, probably the same as the Lester glitch from last year.

 

So all in all it was a highly risky glitch and people paid for their ambition, the only thing I find stupid about this is that there's this whole belief that Rockstar has killed their game by banning the entire playerbase, which I find pretty funny, yeah a big number of players did this, but I would imagine that a giant portion wasn't even aware that it exists, glitchers make up a small percent of the playerbase, otherwise Rockstar wouldn't be making the amount of money they're making with this game.

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Posted (edited)
32 minutes ago, MaddenedGhost said:

ambition

"Stupidity" is more the correct word.

 

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/FEGNX4cZ1GEGqrwozeSXrj9xGb0i0sFEdRrb8KeLctfWewUvwZsvi7D2gmm6QkdS88207tCmfQnBOvdfYioH3Mz5pkM93mT3IM7O8-umkIEJ2GAEK1zBYBOZzRPUyXUKegjIvmFk5kCTGK0M0lUsS-wBPJMnIJSqNh0

 

EDIT: inb4 the kids who've never actually played GTA 4 think this is some kind of hint that Niko is returning.

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The people laughing at "cheaters" but forget they are the reason we haven't gotten a new GTA in 7 years. 

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MaddenedGhost
1 hour ago, Zak Ras said:

"Stupidity" is more the correct word.

 

For some yeah, but I know some of them who took it as "I don't care what happens"

1 hour ago, Xiled said:

The people laughing at "cheaters" but forget they are the reason we haven't gotten a new GTA in 7 years. 

Take that same logic and apply it to the Red Dead franchise, they took 8 years to make the latest installment, despite the previous one having no profitable live service.

Also, the people laughing at cheaters here hardly ever contribute to the commercial success of this game, most of them are hardcore "no cheats AND no shark cards".

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Day one, 748-level player here. Did the glitch to buy the new cars - didn`t glitch billions, just enough to buy everything I wanted. 

 

I enjoy the grind of the game tbh, I love gliding around the city in my cars while chasing some poor bastard who made my hit list just because SecuroServ told me to wipe him and his bodyguards off. Kinda reminds me of the good ol' 3D-era games.

 

I came back after a 2 year hiatus and I even ended up liking destroying griefers... whenever there's one following me, he`s dead on arrival. I learned every little dirty trick they do, so I always find a way to counter whatever they throw at me. I have a 2.1 K/D just because I defend myself from griefers in almost every lobby I get into ... surely my 748 level is an *sshole magnet for some reason. Still, I've always managed to adapt to all the bad stuff you can face in a public lobby. 

 

Over the last 7 years I have glitched money like 2 times probably, this time and when the MC faggio glitch showed up. I have never felt guilty of doing so. When R* decides to charge 1+ million for a f*ckin 80`s Volkswagen, you stop caring about the consequences. I think the economy in this game made the money glitches worse, because everything is too f*ckn expensive, so like others have said, you either grind or glitch money to get what you want. Usually I'm on the grinders side, cause getting stuff for free is nice and all but kind of takes the soul of the game away (the money-making/building a criminal empire aspect). But in the last 2 months I've been feeling resentful towards R*'s game design and how they treat their playerbase (looking at you, RDO post-update fiasco).  Told myself I wouldn't spend my time grinding to get the stuff I wanted and glitched instead, as some sort of payback for what was happening with RDO. I know it's stupid, but still, don't really care that much nowadays. 

 

I feel R* is just as responsible for the current state of the game as most glitchers/cheaters/griefers. And considering that, they should've acknowleged the problem with this glitch started on their end. Obviously as a player you have the choice to either glitch or grind, so you shouldn't complain when the sh*t hits the fan. But still, their decision was distasteful... like most of the stuff they've done in the last 7 years. 

 

 

 

 

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I Am Illenium

Everyone complaining about the glitch saying EVERYONE partook in this needs to recheck their facts, I didn't partake...quit trying to make your money illegitimately, see where cheating gets you now? 

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Xiled
11 minutes ago, I Am Illenium said:

Everyone complaining about the glitch saying EVERYONE partook in this needs to recheck their facts, I didn't partake...quit trying to make your money illegitimately, see where cheating gets you now? 

Remembers when they got all those false positives on pc version when the anti cheat bugged out. Around the time of the Hermes incident. 

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Ahaahahahahahaha hahaha ha ha hahaha. 

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Tez2
6 hours ago, The Jungz said:

I do not find myself living any metaphorical dream and your arbitrary assumptions have brought, so far, nothing substantial to the conversation. 

 

I'm a very vindictive individual I'll admit and I get a hell of a kick in glitching money when I know Rockstar hates that. There is something very satisfying in playing a game a way you aren't supposed to.


Do I cling on to a hope that one day Rockstar will magically revert into the company that they once were? No. I've long since accepted that they'll never deliver us games of the same quality as they once did. The departure of Dan Houser and Lazlow further cementing this sentiment.

 

And you're absolutely right, my opinion holds no ground to Rockstar, yours as well. Or any shark card customer for that matter. The only thing that they care about is money. 

Listen, I simply fail to see your point, since I believe there's much more to it than just blaming shark cards buyers.

 

Let's say these people who buy shark cards are the obstacle in the way, and if we somehow gain superpowers and stop all those people, that would surely force Rockstar to stop supporting GTA Online right? Then Rockstar would be forced to release the next GTA title much earlier than expected, but what if it releases and becomes a massive hit in no time and they come up with GTA Online 2 and their version of Battle Royale packaged with some sort of Battle Pass system, and at some point they will ditch that title, and show up later on with GTA 7. Before you know it, Rockstar became Activision, releasing a new title every year while their quality of delivering magnificent single-player experiences decreases gradually, and at some point, Take-Two executives will be pleading Rockstar to hold into the Battle Pass system and all sorts of editions, the "Take your progress from GTA Online 2 to GTA Online 3" edition, costs the same as the standard edition, but with extra 20 bucks. And don't even forget the Playstation exclusive "My K/D is 2, get gud" edition where you actually start your online journey with 2 K/D ratio, it costs the same as the standard edition, but with extra 5 dollars.

 

If that ever happens, I'll be waiting here for our 2.0 next-gen remastered, "tastes the same, but extra spicy" conversation of who is gonna take the blame this time.

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Arrows to Athens

I haven't even been playing at all lately. All I've heard is that there's this new money glitch and some people, including innocents, have had their characters completely reset, and that there is a God mode pandemic going on.

 

Sometimes it's just great to take a break from this broken game. Looks like I won't be visiting this game anytime soon. PSN's expired and have no desire to renew it. 

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Jimmy

So people actually think that Shark Card buyers have no rights to leave crictisism or feedback on the game? What are you guys smoking even? At this point both the people and R* should have known this better. Most of the game is based around a cyclic cashflow and that means overlooking stuff like a property glitch until it comes to bite them back in the ass in form of loss of money. It's pretty obvious that R* won't be lenient of anyone who's costing them serious money. The whole point being at that the game needs a re-written core inorder to be fixed and knowing R* it'll never happen. Meanwhile, these resets are all what we get.

 

P.S: Shark Card buyers are the biggest supporters of the game right now since they are basically upholding the game financially. They have every right to leave feedback, whine, complain support and what not.

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The Jungz
1 hour ago, Fun 2 said:

Listen, I simply fail to see your point, since I believe there's much more to it than just blaming shark cards buyers.

 

Let's say these people who buy shark cards are the obstacle in the way, and if we somehow gain superpowers and stop all those people, that would surely force Rockstar to stop supporting GTA Online right? Then Rockstar would be forced to release the next GTA title much earlier than expected, but what if it releases and becomes a massive hit in no time and they come up with GTA Online 2 and their version of Battle Royale packaged with some sort of Battle Pass system, and at some point they will ditch that title, and show up later on with GTA 7. Before you know it, Rockstar became Activision, releasing a new title every year while their quality of delivering magnificent single-player experiences decreases gradually, and at some point, Take-Two executives will be pleading Rockstar to hold into the Battle Pass system and all sorts of editions, the "Take your progress from GTA Online 2 to GTA Online 3" edition, costs the same as the standard edition, but with extra 20 bucks. And don't even forget the Playstation exclusive "My K/D is 2, get gud" edition where you actually start your online journey with 2 K/D ratio, it costs the same as the standard edition, but with extra 5 dollars.

 

If that ever happens, I'll be waiting here for our 2.0 next-gen remastered, "tastes the same, but extra spicy" conversation of who is gonna take the blame this time.

I must say, you have quite the creative mind to come up with all these elaborated straw man arguments. Unfortunately, I fail to see how any of them link back to the conversation at hand.

 

That being said, I do hope whatever Rockstar has planned in the future is to your liking and does not disappoint. 

21 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

P.S: Shark Card buyers are the biggest supporters of the game right now since they are basically upholding the game financially. They have every right to leave feedback, whine, complain support and what not.

You just cement my point even further.

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Thanks you for catching the cheaters now get the ones who go into god mode at the arena wars stadium, bogdon glitch , and Pacific heist .. especially ppl who do it 20-30 times in a day..t

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1 hour ago, The Jungz said:

I must say, you have quite the creative mind to come up with all these elaborated straw man arguments. Unfortunately, I fail to see how any of them link back to the conversation at hand.

 

That being said, I do hope whatever Rockstar has planned in the future is to your liking and does not disappoint. 

I finally realized you were going after the 1%, the people who buy 100 shark cards a year. Excuse my foolishness before. I agree, those people should stop.

All the best to you too.

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10 hours ago, SummerFreeze said:

I was thinking of actual races though, not driving down a highway.

Back then highway races was what the majority of players were racing up until the cuning Stunts update came around and made everyone immigrate to stunt races, so I don't see your point here.

 

And I will reinstate: The Adder was king on highway races because of it's top speed, but otherwise the car was balanced by having a fairly mediocre acceleration off the line and garbage handling.

 

The BF Club is busted, has the highest top speed, fastest acceleration, best handling in the class and it doesn't deform as hard as the other cars...It's way too expensive and overpowered.

 

10 hours ago, SummerFreeze said:

The OG heists don't compare to what a dedicated two-person crew can earn from the casino heist.

Fine, one Silent and Sneaky heist, undetected on hard with cash loot(most common loot) will net you roughly 2.1 millions, assuming a 75/15 cut and using the cheapest NPC team members it should pay to you about 1.7 millions, give or take.

 

1.7 millions is good enough to buy a single BF Club, max it out and then buy a single Brioso R/A, and I don't even think there will any money left for many upgrades.

 

It's not a good look, with the money you made on the most profitable heist available today, you still can only buy TWO compact cars, this is in 2020...In 2015, with OG heists, you could buy ALL of the compact class cars that were available and upgrade them to the max.

 

Anyway, I was making a comparison between what you could earn and buy back versus what you can earn and buy today, with similar activities and assuming you're playing with friends.

 

Back then you would earn much less, and the jobs were harder, but things were more affordable back then so you had a better incentive for grinding the heists(again assuming you're playing with friends).

 

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46 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

I finally realized you were going after the 1%, the people who buy 100 shark cards a year. Excuse my foolishness before. I agree, those people should stop.

All the best to you too.

I for one have never seen so much dislike towards a minority group who wish to support the game (even though it's truly optional). I for one am not one of those shark card buyers but I parlay some appreciation towards them for helping to keep the game afloat.

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9 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

If they can reset people because they did the glitch they know when they did it. That means they know when it started.

I'm also pretty confident that it happend with the summer update, for the simple reason that they made changes to the propertys.

There is also a second reason. These glitches go viral in mere hours after they are first found, because everybody and their dog scrambles to get some free cash.

 

They can and they did.

The dlc is 20 days old (not many months) so thats 20/21 savegames at most. Savegames are generally not that big so its not a ridiculous amount of data. And they apparently store plenty of data to know who did the glitch.

 

And a game having dedicated servers matters why exactly?

We are talking about cloudsaves here. Something every modern game has, no matter if per to per or on a dedicated server.

Savegames from 2 months ago would be enough considering the dlc came out 20 days ago.

Games like The Division 2 show that it is possible (as pointed out a few posts up) if the developer cares enough about its customers. You can store the needed data, you can roll back individual accounts, you can punish people without going the lazy way and just setting them to zilch.

All you have to do is to get off your arse and give a single f*ck about your customers.

 

R* could do it aswell, but as a matter of fact they dont care enough to do so since there is no money in it. That was apparent the day they stoped temp bans and instead started resetting first time offenders along with their "no appeal" policy that f*cks false positives over.

 

Like I said before, banishment is the most common practice for all online games when its players break the rules. Abusing exploits to gain certain advantages being among them. Its explicitly stated in the terms and the players know its a punishable offense but chose to do it anyway. This is nothing unique to Rockstar. Break the rules, you get banned. That is how online gaming works.

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1 hour ago, Ghoffman9 said:

Like I said before, banishment is the most common practice for all online games when its players break the rules. Abusing exploits to gain certain advantages being among them. Its explicitly stated in the terms and the players know its a punishable offense but chose to do it anyway. This is nothing unique to Rockstar. Break the rules, you get banned. That is how online gaming works.

Break the rules get banned? So what % of the playerbase would they have to ban to get rid of every single rule break? There are many things that players have done, or accidentally done in 7 years that is cheating. Any time you restart your game to exploit something is cheating. I know a few people in the community who say they don't cheat but have restarted their game to avoid the cmm challenge resetting... There are many people who restart their game over and over again trying to win the car off the casino wheel. Any time you get in a public lobby by yourself is technically cheating as well. The game even yells at you that you can find a new lobby. There are those who repeat heist finales over and over and over. There are people who exploit only getting high end vehicles for the export garage. There are players constantly in god mode. There were a few people who teleported to the collectibles around the map instead of traveling between them. There are people who upload "modded" maps. I wonder what% of the playerbase I just hit with these few things I just mentioned. They should all be reset for cheating in various ways. 

 

Technically they could ban fun2's account for uploading that fun "modded" field of screams map years ago. Since your not supposed to be able to make them like he did. Think you got like $80, if you completed it. :D

 

Maybe people wouldn't cheat if R* didn't only go after 1 form of cheating in the game and its anything involving money. 

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