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CosmicBuffalo
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This is their model...happened with some casino glitch recently.  R* knows you are under monetized.  Quit using in game methods to make money in their 7 year old boring game...buy a shark card instead.  

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This is a situation that kept escalating over the years. Most importantly, you have to bear in mind that Rockstar deals with instances like this at a global scale, and if the worst case were to happen, that is if the character wipe were to sweep legitimate players of all progress, then Rockstar would respond back with a global-scale restitution process.

 

The policies against such acts kept changing and becoming much harsher and more detailed over time. It was only last year, that a new policy was established, in which Rockstar dipped into the specifics of acts like glitching and pledged severe penalties to whoever abuse such methods, and no one took it seriously.

 

Just like how Rockstar deals with such instances globally, the severity of the wipe is considered on a global scale basis. Even if Rockstar were to set aside the legislation, which is extremely unlikely to happen, the response to the casino chip glitch was evident enough for players to think twice before participating in such act.

To be clear, I'm not resenting you or anything, I too would have preferred it if Rockstar chooses the proper sentence for such acts based on the severity of the exploitation, but I can't blame them for something a player should have thought twice before doing.

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Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

This is a situation that kept escalating over the years. Most importantly, you have to consider that Rockstar deals with instances like this at a global scale, and if the worst case were to happen, that is if the character wipe were to sweep legitimate players of all progress, then Rockstar would respond back with a global-scale restitution process.

 

The policies against such acts kept changing and becoming much harsher and more detailed over time. It was only last year, that a new policy was established, in which Rockstar dipped into the specifics of acts like glitching and pledged severe penalties to whoever abuse such methods, and no one took it seriously.

 

Just like how Rockstar deals with such instances globally, the severity of the wipe is considered on a global scale basis. Even if Rockstar were to set aside the legislation, which isn't likely to happen, the response to the casino chip glitch was clear enough for players to think twice before participating in such act.

To be clear, I'm not resenting you or anything, I too would have preferred it if Rockstar chooses the proper sentence for such acts based on the severity of the exploitation, but I can't blame them for something a player should have thought twice before doing.

Makes sense

 

Just hoping in the December update they finally do something about the massive god mode issue. I bet more people know about how to get in godmode than knew about this apartment glitch. :D No way they don't know about the god mode situation. :D

 

So when will they go after the players who spam doing the heist finales over and over again? Its much faster than lester plane glitch was. Its a big money exploit really. 

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36 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

The policies against such acts kept changing and becoming much harsher and more detailed over time. It was only last year, that a new policy was established, in which Rockstar dipped into the specifics of acts like glitching and pledged severe penalties to whoever abuse such methods, and no one took it seriously.

They should keep things laconic;

 

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So even though those players got wiped, would they still get $1 mil per month for playing once per month? Think they could still get like $8 million by the time the game releases on 9th gen. Be funny they "cheat" and get account wiped than get $1 mil per month for free lul 

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1 hour ago, Xiled said:

Makes sense

 

Just hoping in the December update they finally do something about the massive god mode issue. I bet more people know about how to get in godmode than knew about this apartment glitch. :D No way they don't know about the god mode situation. :D

They actually fixed a solo god mode glitch a few days ago (but glitchers were quick to find a workaround), are you referring to the Speedo custom glitch? If so, they have been aware of it for a long time now, but the fix is complicated, I would say it even requires a drastic change to the design aspect of the feature. The thing is the situation inside their studios is a race of resource consumption pressured by priorities and dealing with the unknown, that is all the issues we as players are unaware of.

I'm not trying to justify their reasoning to overlook such glitch for years now, it truly sucks, but I think Rockstar wants to abide by their standards or what is called professionalism, to fix the bug while maintaining the same layout, which at this point, I would consider Mission Impossible.

Rockstar would have fixed the issue if they were to set aside "professionalism" and just disable people from exiting the nightclub garage with the Speedo custom, simple as that. It's a stupid fix, but hey, there are much worse things in this game that is worth your frustration than not being able to exit your nightclub garage with your Speedo custom.

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13 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

Rockstar would have fixed the issue if they were to set aside "professionalism" and just disable people from exiting the nightclub garage with the Speedo custom, simple as that.

You've just reminded me of that one actual glitch during either After Hours or Arena War that if you had a Personal Vehicle active and left it parked outside a property then tried to drive out of said property with another vehicle, it wouldn't let you leave. So it's already possible in a sense. Is there anything as simple as; [Vehicle_Exit_Property; True] in the code for garages and the like or would they need to alter and add a few things?

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It would still be easily usable without driving it out of the club. You can spawn it with interaction menu in vehicles tab or using it to sell nightclub stuff. 

 

Is it the same professionalism they used when they blocked a 15 second shortcut with a boulder? :D

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Or the same professionalism when Rockstar created a janitorial cart to prevent you from taking a shortcut in the casino heist.

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4 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

 

I'm not trying to justify their reasoning to overlook such glitch for years now, it truly sucks, but I think Rockstar wants to abide by their standards or what is called professionalism

And they're doing a really great job with that with their focus on mostly patching money and merge glitches while leaving game breaking bugs in the game for ages..

One can argue that if they didn't need to patch those kind of glitches they would have more time to patch other things but that is just a priority thing, doesn't matter if the game is playable or not as long as the money is flowing in, this character reset situation just shows that 

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Black-Dragon96
6 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

It was only last year, that a new policy was established, in which Rockstar dipped into the specifics of acts like glitching and pledged severe penalties to whoever abuse such methods, and no one took it seriously.

I personally didn't even know this policy existed.

I thought we were still on the (I believe) 2017 policy were they introduced the resets for temp ban (Another stupid decision that only affects the false positives.)

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1 hour ago, kenmy13999 said:

And they're doing a really great job with that with their focus on mostly patching money and merge glitches while leaving game breaking bugs in the game for ages..

One can argue that if they didn't need to patch those kind of glitches they would have more time to patch other things but that is just a priority thing, doesn't matter if the game is playable or not as long as the money is flowing in, this character reset situation just shows that 

This character reset situation happened because it was both easy to track and easy to solve. There's the complexity of the glitch to consider when attempting to patch it.

I agree, we do often see them patching most money glitches, but if we were to argue that money glitches is at the pinnacle of their priorities, we would have seen them doubling down on the bogdan money glitch and fixing it as soon as possible, but it's still working to this day and it just shows that it's as complex as the Speedo custom glitch.

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I've checked my email and Social club account and I've logged on the game for the past week and haven't been affected as I've never gotten that email from R* and my Social club stats are still intact since I never have never will money glitch let alone doing the Casino chip glitch or the latest apartment glitch but I still fear getting reset because some legit players report getting reset and never participated in the apartment/garage glitch. If I did get banned and reset, I would change my GTAForum title to "Former Passionate Solo Grinder" but first I'll immediately close the application if I got that "WELCOME" message and not go on for a few days but even that won't work or the people who claim it restores everything are BS.

 

To be honest, I'm very worried that I will get reset despite never glitching money and legitimately grinding knowing how buggy R* automated system and causing false positive resets is and another reason I believe I may get reset is because I've been grinding soo much money legitimately with the Casino Heist with my friend and also did plenty of Headhunter, Sightseer, Terrorbyte missions and vehicle cargo in a solo public lobby. I've also sold my Bunker and MC Businesses a lot this past week so the money I legitimately earned my tick off the buggy R* anti cheat system this is despite not receiving an email about getting resetted.

 

I'll log on later today and see if I been resetted.

 

Edit: I can't log in via story mode but I can log in via the loading screen via selecting online and everything except the crew I'm in are all unaffected for now at least. I'll log back in tomorrow to see if I got falsely banned and wiped and I've been nervous the whole day since I don't want to lose all my hard work grinding legitimately. I just got the EULA screen which I accepted to TOS and submitted it (the WELCOME screen is the one I'd be closing app ASAP which I didn't get thank goodness).

 

 

I think the reason why they did a full ban because R* know that people will buy lots of garages and businesses and buy lots of Deluxos to sell later if they get money wiped but an account reset prevents this as their properties and vehicles also get deleted.

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kenmy13999
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34 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

This character reset situation happened because it was both easy to track and easy to solve.

Edit: was this so much easier to track than the Lester refund glitch that it warrant a full on reset instead of just a full money wipe? 

Do you think they'll try and be even more strict on all kind of money glitches in the future or just the ones that are this easy to track? 

 

34 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

There's the complexity of the glitch to consider when attempting to patch it.

I agree, we do often see them patching most money glitches, but if we were to argue that money glitches is at the pinnacle of their priorities, we would have seen them doubling down on the bogdan money glitch and fixing it as soon as possible, but it's still working to this day and it just shows that it's as complex as the Speedo custom glitch.

Tbh I don't think the Bogdan glitch or any other heist replay glitch for that matter is an solid argument against money glitches being their top priority when it comes to "fixing" things in the game. 

I know you are or at least have been visiting the sinful place and you've probably noticed how many money glitches they patch on a weekly basis there while leaving other bugs in game as long as it doesn't benefit the players when it comes to money, so I'm not easily convinced that patching money glitches isn't their top priority 😊 

Imo one argument that is better than the finale heist replay glitch not being patched is them patching the merge glitches so fast and often, that can hardly be considered money glitches since people have used more money on customising their vehicles than they save on the upgrades when merging. Doesn't seem to cause any problems having worn crew colours and Benny's/F1 wheels either so I'm putting that on the no fun allowed account 🤣 joke aside, do you have any insight on why they're so adamant on patching the merge glitches? 

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Cruel company what are you exptected9c5021f7a668c1a73f553617d0082719.gif

Hey @Fun 2are you co-employee of Rockstar that leaks information about everything?d9c1ce5978866249cb104140e607f41b.gif

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Fun 2
8 minutes ago, risefox said:

Hey @Fun 2are you co-employee of Rockstar that leaks information about everything?d9c1ce5978866249cb104140e607f41b.gif

No, I don't even work for them.

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43 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

No, I don't even work for them.

aa, it just seemed to me so. But you rightly drain the information about game,news,etc keep it up😉

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f*ck up once, you lose two teeth

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suicidal_banana
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16 hours ago, Jenkiiii said:

Hi, everyone.

...

(paraphrasing) "Creators deserve salary"

...
I therefore have mixed feelings as I know that people crossed the line and sufficient warning had been served in the past, but the severity of this wipe on good people who create great content for Rockstar is bordering on the obscene.

Hey,

I wasnt affected in any way but just wanted to pitch in.

 

I agree that creators should get some kind of in game salary for their efforts, but then how do you decide the height of that salary? is it based on how many tracks they make? when the made their last track? how many likes their tracks got this week? all of the above?? Wouldn't any of these make it real easy for people to start 'cheating' that system and getting a 'salary' they dont deserve?

Besides that nothing against your friends/crew-members, but i strongly disagree with "they made tracks so R* should cut them some slack", its exactly as you said, people that have gotten the more serious wipes (losing ALL money, or even more) got them because they have been warned/in trouble in the past, with the new version of the game around the corner it was pretty obvious the moment the apartment glitch was found (by the general public anyway, the actual glitch has been around for a few months) that they would be acting on that, so anyone getting into trouble for it can only blame themselves. Ofc R* wasnt going to let people make 2mil in 2mins (or whatever the exact tagline was) and get away with it.

 

I doubt anybody that has gotten any form of wipe agrees, but imo its commendable of R* that they only wiped the glitched funds of first offenders, a few years ago they would've just instantly banned everybody involved regardless of severity and history, the fact that they are essentially letting first offenders off the hook (only taking away what was gained from the glitch and nothing else) is kinda nice in a way, i feel like people should be a little more grateful, focus on that bit (you got caught yet R* doesn't really blame you) rather then focus on your now 'missing' funds.

People that got wiped should draw a lesson from this:
Rockstar is and likely always will be lack-luster about glitches and cheats, but they are not completely incompetent & when they want to they can easily see what accounts have illegal funds/flags, dont ever forget this wake-up call. Only you can prevent forest fires getting your account wiped

 

  

1 hour ago, xInfected_Virus said:

I've checked my email and Social club account and I've logged on the game for the past week and haven't been affected as I've never gotten that email from R* and my Social club stats are still intact since I never have never will money glitch let alone doing the Casino chip glitch or the latest apartment glitch but I still fear getting reset because some legit players report getting reset and never participated in the apartment/garage glitch.

...

 

Its safe to assume that no legit player was affected, thats just one of those typical responses people have, "oh shi i gotten wiped / banned, how am i going to tell my gta buddies/crew/whatever, oh i know, i'll just claim to be a false positive"

Like has been mentioned in this thread before, R* doesn't really make mistakes when doing these wipes, because of what they have to do if they f- up (roll back the whole thing & try again, while also having to give some kind of bonus to the players they wrongly wiped before, and possibly deal with lawsuit-culture-americans) they will be more inclined to give somebody the benefit of the doubt vs banning cases they are unsure about (which is why some people will successfully 'fly under the radar' and keep their funds) so what this really means is they will be able to justify the wipes and bans that do happen in court. Think about that for a moment, theres no way they just blindly swing the ban hammer, that would cause them a lot of trouble.

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I think they do that because Rockstar doesnt receive moneys from Shark-Cards and they are afraid that their company will go into crisis3de52b61b2bf8f517063da3aa75527c3.gif

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Just another source of amusement for honest players.

 

Last night dropped into a session where a level 10 griefer was flying about killing all and sundry in a jet, a quick look showed a K/D of over 5 so was obviously a butt-hurt idiot with a reset account. Called in my Akula and took him out & got called a "noob". He went passive and headed to Fort Zancudo (original) so I hovered over the marshes and took him out as he nicked another Lazer .....twice.

 

There followed another message "haha you have no ground skills"

Me: "haha you got reset"

Him "That's not funny"

Me "Yes it is, shouldn't cheat"

Him "I did't cheat"

Then he tried stealing another lazer which worked out as well for him as the other 2 attempts before leaving the session. 😁😁

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9 minutes ago, dragosani00 said:

Just another source of amusement for honest players.

 

Last night dropped into a session where a level 10 griefer was flying about killing all and sundry in a jet, a quick look showed a K/D of over 5 so was obviously a butt-hurt idiot with a reset account. Called in my Akula and took him out & got called a "noob". He went passive and headed to Fort Zancudo (original) so I hovered over the marshes and took him out as he nicked another Lazer .....twice.

 

There followed another message "haha you have no ground skills"

Me: "haha you got reset"

Him "That's not funny"

Me "Yes it is, shouldn't cheat"

Him "I did't cheat"

Then he tried stealing another lazer which worked out as well for him as the other 2 attempts before leaving the session. 😁😁

The irony here is that he actually played the game the way R* intended 🤣🤣

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12 hours ago, halapeno71 said:

They're not going to do that.  There's a reason they went with account resets.  Because of shark card customers.  Neither a money wipe nor an outright ban would have been in R*'s best interest in that regard.

 

If shark card customers who did the exploit invested all of their glitched money in Deluxos, a money wipe would have been ineffective and those customers likely would never have bought another shark card again.  They wouldn't have needed to.  Conversely, if R* outright banned those players, then they definitely wouldn't be buying shark cards again.

 

At least with account resets, there's a chance, however slim, that some of those players might become paying customers again.  A lot of players have slammed down the "That's it!  I'm never playing this game again!" gauntlet as a result of getting reset, but I can scarcely believe that most of them actually mean it.

Thanks, halapeno71 - saved me typing out that exact response. 

 

@Jenkiiii to echo the very first reply: they cheated, they knew the risks, no excuses, no sympathy.

 

As far as their contributions to the community, I give you this: Lance Armstrong raised awareness and millions of dollars for cancer. He cheated, got caught and was stripped of everything - awards, titles, records, sponsors. Again, he knew the risks, no sympathy from me.

 

There are consequences for breaking the rules. Break them hard enough, any previous contributions cannot offset the wrongdoing. In the case of GTA, these people broke the one rule that R* cares about more than any other thing in the universe - they f*cked with R*'s bottom line. 

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Tomtomsengermany

I didnt took part but i am still effected.

 

Havent been obliterated for days now. Lol.

 

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

The thing is the situation inside their studios is a race of resource consumption pressured by priorities and dealing with the unknown, that is all the issues we as players are unaware of.

I'm not trying to justify their reasoning to overlook such glitch for years now, it truly sucks, but I think Rockstar wants to abide by their standards or what is called professionalism, to fix the bug while maintaining the same layout, which at this point, I would consider Mission Impossible.

Just a reminder that those "professionals" had a look of the stock Willard Faction, update it's hitbox to make the rear tires larger and patched a texture that leaves the windows up when you remove the T-tops, but didn't bothered to fix the two biggest problems it has:

 

The collision issue caused by a active lowrider flag on it's handling.meta which can be easily disabled without altering anything else on this car or any other lowrider for that matter.

And the hilarious texture bug that makes it's stock plain hood turn into a turbo bulge hood when you detach it from the car.

 

Also the downright ridiculous tailight bug bug on the Lampadati Casco, caused by a mere typo on its rear light Corona, fixed by merely correcting the typo...

 

 

But apparently those so called "professionals" are unable to do any of that since 2015.

 

15 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

Rockstar would have fixed the issue if they were to set aside "professionalism" and just disable people from exiting the nightclub garage with the Speedo custom, simple as that.

They already replaced how features worked in the past because of bugs related to it, them removing the ability from the Speedo Custom to leave the Nightclub Garage directly through the customization menu would not be something new to them at all.

 

They don't fix the issue because they are either incompetent, negligent or both...After all the Speedo Custom can't really be used as a money cheat, and it's not even a 100% foolproof god mode glitch.

 

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I didn't do it so I also did not got affected. One thing I can assume is that it hit people with money that traded properties during this time, because of the two new slots. I was aware of it, thought about it, but in order to do it I had to buy two or three new properties, which made me lazy. Then thought a bit more, looked at my bank account and said to myself "I have so much money, why would I want to do this thing that can have consequences?" and left it like that.

 

Money, cars and property wipe PLUS a character reset seems way, way too excessive, though. I'd say empty the bank account and removing all vehicles is fair enough of a punishment (as properties are not that expensive anyway, but buying cars is a "proven" method of laundering money) and if you had a lot of modified Arena vehicles - brrr. Hits really hard. Could R* do this to some characters, that were created recently and got like 1 or 2 billions? 1000%. But resetting years old characters is just brutal.

 

Now, imagine what will happen if they decide to do the same to all the players that ever did the Bogdan glitch or ever did the Gold glitch retroactively. You don't do such extreme things for a reason, especially when your game is constantly broken in so many other aspects and players are abusing with or are simply being nasty to other players (griefing or raising their KDR by any means).

 

I don't think that the message that R* sent had the effect they intended it to have.

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5 minutes ago, Pedinhuh said:

Just a reminder that those "professionals" had a look of the stock Willard Faction, update it's hitbox to make the rear tires larger and patched a texture that leaves the windows up when you remove the T-tops, but didn't bothered to fix the two biggest problems it has:

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They don't fix the issue because they are either incompetent, negligent or both...After the Speedo Custom can't really be used as a money cheat, and it's not even a 100% foolproof god mode glitch.

Kinda comes across as "i think ~10 people all work on every single aspect of the game together and they communicate everything all day every day" but its more like "100+ people all work on their own small piece in little teams that never talk to each-other"

 

The perceived (in)competence or negligence shown in some parts of the game say nothing about the other parts of the game, just because some person in team A is stupid/smart doesnt mean the same can be said for team B, C, etc. Yes it would be superb if the devs all had the same skill level and would communicate better and be more active towards preventing bugs and patching glitches of all kinds, but sadly thats just not how big companies function. Monthly road-maps are written by the higher-ups (and most likely with heavy involvement from Take2, so focused on 'making money') and teams will have to deliver on those road-maps or get sacked, so everybody focuses on their own work (little communication with other teams) and might at times even push a 'sub-optimal version' of something live just to meet the deadline, big software companies are a difficult working environment.

 

Not that the above justifies the state of the game/their current (perceived?) disinterest on cheats & certain glitches, but you have to understand that 'average joe the developer' simply cant be blamed for that, they cant just go "oh today ima fix some random bugs because why not", heres how a big software/gaming company works: First day the manager will go "wtf", after you convince him you already finished your roadmap for the week and this is a good use of your time the next day some random guy you never seen before comes to your desk asking why you're working on his files, after you manage to sort of talk your way out of that (politely tell somebody their code is sh*t is always fun) later that day theres a 'serious meeting' with multiple teams & managers where even if you get to continue fixing the specific issue the bottom line is bscly "dont do stuff without us telling you too" (yes this is from experience at a similar company lol)

 

Point is in a company this size theres no room for initiative & the person that has to say 'fix this thing' for it to be allowed has never met the person that fixes said thing, the developer is certainly not going to be able to say 'i need another few hours to look into this issue with the windows too' if that wasnt on the ticket. Theres like 3 levels of managers between them and none of them really care for "oh i saw a bunch of people on a forum complain about x so i figured i'd do something about it", thats not using your working hours to make them money, thats using their hours to do what you want.

To summarize, companies like these are (in their own way) a rough working environment and people that want to keep their job just do as they are told, if you want to be mad at somebody be mad at upper management & Take2, not at whoever made the Willard or whoever f-ed up the 'repairs'

 

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septimoose

Nobody "stumbles" into a glitch. Every person who did this glitch knew what they were doing, took the risk, and unfortunately paid the price.

 

I think when considering doing a glitch, you kinda have to do a risk assessment, looking at the notoriety, difficulty and earning potential.

 

Car duping tends to fly under the radar because there are controls and measures to prevent people making crazy money off it in a short period of time (i.e. vehicle sell limits), and there's usually a larger setup required (needing an MDC, spawn locations, timing, alert screens etc). Even things like the Bogdan glitch have a setup required, and also need the people in the mission to be on the same page. 

 

However, when you look at things like this glitch, the Casino Chips glitch and the Orbital Cannon glitch, they're fast, give infinite cash, require very little setup, and they're posted by every clickbait YouTuber out there. So for most of us with well-established accounts and high levels it really wouldn't be worth doing it, because it didn't take a genius to realise that a cash reset was inevitable.

 

However, I do not think the punishment fits the crime. Cash "adjustment" would be fair. Cash adjustment and 30-day ban would be acceptable. To me, a character reset would be the equivalent of a permanent ban. I wouldn't return to the game, and I'd be a bit gutted at the loss of all the memories I've made in this game.

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To everyone saying a complete wipe & reset is too harsh, bare in mind this is EXACTLY why Rockstar updated their EULA. We ALL had to accept the splash screen warning us  we could get RESETTED. That was our WAKEUP CALL THEN. C’mon now- NO EXCUSES. I for one took it seriously, and said to myself I would never try a property or frozen money glitch- especially since they wiped everyone who did the Casino chip glitch. I’m even contemplating retiring from glitching duped cars now, which always had a history of being “safe.” It’s just not worth it. I even went to that “Sinful Place” and made a post on the ORIGINAL apartment glitch thread, warning others they could be resetted and wiped. I used those EXACT words. What followed my post in that thread? A bunch of misinformation spread from various members about purchasing deluxos as “assets” in case of a wipe and don’t glitch “too much.” I’m sorry, it sucks but it’s not harsh. They warned us and made examples of players before. Don’t get annoyed with Rockstar now for laying a heavier hand this go around. Wouldn’t you be harder on someone who disrespected you for the second time- someone you already punished before, for doing it the first time? And after that punishment you warned them not to to that sh*t again by making it crystal clear?? Enough people. 

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3 hours ago, suicidal_banana said:

Its safe to assume that no legit player was affected, thats just one of those typical responses people have, "oh shi i gotten wiped / banned, how am i going to tell my gta buddies/crew/whatever, oh i know, i'll just claim to be a false positive"

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

We know their Anti-Cheat-Bot is sh*t and that false positives have happened in the past. We also dont know what exactly triggered the bot so there is a possibility that people were wrongfully caught up in the wave.

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