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Thanks to the people who contributed to this thread 

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Haribokart

They knew the risks, no sympathy.

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Jenkiiii
Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, Haribokart said:

They knew the risks, no sympathy.

Complete character wipe?

 

OK, there are too many smart-asses who tucked away their glitched cash in vehicle bonds, thinking they wouldn't be caught, but why didn't Rockstar remove all cash and vehicles and leave it at that? Why remove all properties and methods of making future income?

 

Either way, I'm looking for feedback and insight on this to better understand it, so thanks for your feedback, much appreciated.

 

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HamwithCheese
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What was this glitch? Must've been easy and profitable for wipes to be made 

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Black-Dragon96

Well I was not affected since I did not take part in it.

 

All I can say on the matter is, that people should have known better. At this point R* or better TakeTwo (they are practicly the same company so you could say both) are only in it for the money. 99% of the content in this game is pretty much set up to railroad people into recurrent consumer spending. So you can bet your a$$ that they will do everything to keep the cashflow going. If that means whipeing everybody who takes part in any  form of moneyglitch, they will do it.

And they could not give any less of a f*ck if the people who got whiped come back or not, either. The people who got whiped werent making them any cash anyway (since they got their cash through glitching), so from a bussiness standpoint they are practicly nonexistant.

 

And no offense, if people are using something as heavily monitored as the propertys to glitch metric f*cktons of money, that pretty much calls for a darwin award.

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Standard Deluxe 59

It didn't affect me none. No one i knew did it, nor did I do it. 

 

Sucks for whoever got caught up in this though but glitches like these are too risky and easily tracked. However I will say that I'm glad I didn't trade in any properties like I thought about doing. Not because of the glitch because I didn't even know about it or how it worked, but because I considered moving some of my garages in the industrial district to ones in the nicer parts of the city. Still, I find their statement on the matter about (paraphrasing) "taking steps to punish those to exploit the game to get an unfair advantage over other players" hypocritical since they're so quick to patch anything that is money related but other things like God mode Speedos and God modes in general rarely get attention.  

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halapeno71

You were expecting R* to march through what had to be an enormous list of offenders to determine which players created content for the game and which didn't?  And then be lenient on whose who did?

 

That would have been a colossal waste of time to spend just as a courtesy to a minority of players who, at the end of the day, still willfully exploited a glitch.  And then what message are you sending the rest of the player base?  Create some content and we'll let you go ahead and take advantage of money exploits?

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dieseltech20

When they pay godmode any attention the players just release a new one in seconds. The core of the game is broken and R* are unable to fix it so those glitches will be around forever. 
 

 

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Mexicola9302
16 minutes ago, Haribokart said:

They knew the risks, no sympathy.

^^ 100% agree.

 

I was just glad we were able to buy some new properties, i maxed my number out, for the garages, i haven't even visited my new properties yet. Always only called the mechanic or talked to my assistant to get my cars. :D 

 

Glitchers/Exploiters deserve to be wiped, period.

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Lonely-Martin
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No impact here, I've not done any of these money glitches, nor has my lad. I'm far too far in to even consider these risks but they just aren't for me anyway. I either play or don't depending on enjoyment, and I enjoy GTA, lol.

 

I did glitch a lost van though, but have done so knowing if I get caught out and wiped for it, I'd have no complaints. It's on me.

 

Not sure about all of my friends list but the main guys I play with seem ok as I do tend to add up those equally not keen on doing glitches really, though I'm sure some have but they accept the risks (I think some duped cars long ago and got away with it or carried over big bounty money from old gen, I dunno. Don't really ask, lol). The lad has a couple of mates that have been wiped but they hardly played. A fair cop they say. Fair enough. But they're low ranks anyway and either don't care or will just start over.

 

Being honest, the only part I can sympathise with a little is how it's had an effect on the crew. For those that have been wiped of your crew Jenkiii, if they stop playing because of this, it is very unfortunate for those that didn't use the glitch and play legit to potentially lose teammates over it is a shame. If I got wiped for that van, I'd feel more sad for my lad and mates that may lose me, lol.

 

Maybe stronger leadership of the crew is needed to help dissuade players doing this so the crew isn't impacted if the worse happens. I don't mean that to sound like a dig or cheap shot though so apologies if it comes accross like so. Just feel a crew that could be so impacted should have rules or guidelines to help the crew thrive and not be so heavily impacted in a scenario like this.

 

But as you said folk were warned about future glitching, they've also bought it on themselves and knew the risks to be fair. A glitch that easy had trouble written all over it IMO. In general I don't sympathise with those that take these kind of risks and have even been warned over past indiscretions too. Just a shame to see a crew get potentially split up over it really.

 

With regards to the issue where players felt they should glitch because they used their time creating content, I do disagree. It's an optional extra to choose to go creating and if a player is spending that much time creating stuff that they're missing out on other gaming aspects here, they need to manage their time a bit better really or as it's a crew thing, share the load or the better creators teach the rest of the crew how to help create new modes for the crew to enjoy. After all, all of the crew gets to play the modes that are created, get everyone to chip in and spread the load while everyone gets time to make money too.

 

It's no different to a player only living to fight in freemode and equally not earn much money then go on to glitch and get caught out I feel really. They choose to fight and not earn or earn little in comparison so it's on them to mix it up more or accept they may have friends with more toys/cash.

 

Sorry for the long one and I hope you don't lose good friends or crewmates over it as that would be a real shame for you. :)

 

Edit: I misread a part. I do think that if a player is in creator, their passive businesses should still make progress. But with the same conditions as freemode in that if they're inactive for 15 minutes, they get kicked offline. My bad for misreading that part. (I've never used the creator, lol).

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Arsewipercareerman20

It didn't, because I didn't do that glitch

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slowburn29

Dupes made me lazy so I didn't take advantage, but after the Lester phone thing you should have known they'd come for your account

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kenmy13999
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Jenkiiii said:

Complete character wipe?

 

 

 

A complete character is more than I could've imagined, if anything I would've expected a money wipe and that's why I don't do these kind of glitches. The people that got a full reset have my sympathy but at the same time there's always a risk and this time R* really went over bord and upped the stake to much imo. 

 

I've spent quite a few hours in the creator myself but just peanuts compared to a lot of other creators and I think it would be good idea as @Lonely-Martin said and let the businesses still produce in the background when being in the creator 

 

Edit: there's been several apartment glitches, was this the one that came with the latest update that you could basically just trade in an apartment and get two million back or something? 

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Gunbladelad

To be honest they need to take harsher measures than just character wipes against glitchers - account bans would be a good place to start - and if the glitchers keep on making new accounts, ban the system they're playing on entirely.

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Hazzardtohimself

(on PC so unaffected - but thought I'd offer my opinion) 

 

You make some good points, Jenkiiii - I'm sorry that some of your creator crew might be stepping away due to the punishment they've received. 

 

As others have said, I agree that a reset is extreme but it is justified in this case. It's small comfort to say "Well, at least it's not a complete ban" for those that have received the bad news recently. Some players will give up for sure, but some others may decide that the reset was 'so unfair' that they'll return to GTA to actively find glitches or use menus etc. just to stick it to Rockstar and their player-base. Not helpful, but they'll feel justified in their decision. 

 

2 hours ago, Jenkiiii said:

There are people who do deserve every wipe and ban that they receive, but there are also other people out there who are stalwart Rockstar fans and produce so much great content for them.

Does Rockstar celebrate player-created-content? Heck, no. They should though (and no, the ugly 'Rockstar Verified' stunt tracks added 3-4 years ago still don't count!)
Would people buy / play GTA:O without player-created-content? The majority of casual players would, but the hardcore racing / parkour / deathmatch-fans would have jumped ship. 
TLDR: Rockstar don't care what players create - as long as it doesn't lose them money. 

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Mayochiki

The what? Still sitting with 400m on several accounts lol

Although I haven't glitched money since the DM in Online from 2018. I'm guessing they're caring now that the PS5 release is getting close.

 

In any case, people who glitch should know by now there's always a risk to be reset and complaining about it is stupid. They will not consider your commitment because all kinds of players glitch their way through. If you are a legit player you really have no reason to glitch money, especially if you've been playing for years. I did it because I love the meta aspect of getting illegal money (like, you know... a criminal) and because I don't want to grind to get the next business. I don't think glitching is bad as long as you don't screw others, but asking for sympathy is out of the question

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REXX

Those that were banned/reset knew what would happen if they performed the glitch. What annoys me most is those that glitched are pissed at Rockstar for actually resetting or banning them. Like, wot de akchule fuq m8...🤦🏻‍♂️

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halapeno71
8 minutes ago, Gunbladelad said:

To be honest they need to take harsher measures than just character wipes against glitchers - account bans would be a good place to start - and if the glitchers keep on making new accounts, ban the system they're playing on entirely.

They're not going to do that.  There's a reason they went with account resets.  Because of shark card customers.  Neither a money wipe nor an outright ban would have been in R*'s best interest in that regard.

 

If shark card customers who did the exploit invested all of their glitched money in Deluxos, a money wipe would have been ineffective and those customers likely would never have bought another shark card again.  They wouldn't have needed to.  Conversely, if R* outright banned those players, then they definitely wouldn't be buying shark cards again.

 

At least with account resets, there's a chance, however slim, that some of those players might become paying customers again.  A lot of players have slammed down the "That's it!  I'm never playing this game again!" gauntlet as a result of getting reset, but I can scarcely believe that most of them actually mean it.

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Shiloh Comes
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3 hours ago, Jenkiiii said:

Complete character wipe?

 

OK, there are too many smart-asses who tucked away their glitched cash in vehicle bonds, thinking they wouldn't be caught, but why didn't Rockstar remove all cash and vehicles and leave it at that? Why remove all properties and methods of making future income?

 

Either way, I'm looking for feedback and insight on this to better understand it, so thanks for your feedback, much appreciated.

 

 

Most people detest modders, glitchers and any other kind of cheat. I sit next to you on the grid, having earned my car, while you duped your's. You have no right to be there. If you come first and I don't, you've ripped me off because you shouldn't have even been there. i don't take that well.

 

You are doing yourself no credit at all attempting to defend and justify your pals.

 

As for using the excuse that they deserved the money as some kind of payment from Rockstar for being altruistic, community minded souls, who made lots of tracks for the good of mankind, well I dont know whether to laugh or cry.

 

Do you really need this explaining to you? Actually, if you posted this nonsense in the first place, obviously, yes, you do.

 

1 - You pals are free to mix up making tracks with earning, just like the rest of us do. no one forced them to go broke through OCD track making

2 - No one but you and your pals care about your stupid tracks, we all use the creator and have our own tracks, get over yourself, no one wants your tracks

3 - Rules are rules and punishments are punishments. They are clear, concise, and we all know them, you and your pals included.

4 - If you had a business and someone robbed you, would you insist the cops went easy on them because they were once good customers?

5 - If your pals cheated once, why would Rockstar trust them not to cheat again?

 

If you seriously need feedback from others to understand this, assuming you are not trolling, then I'm not sure anything anyone says will get through to you to be honest because you are currently living on planet Zog.

 

There is right, there is wrong. There are crimes and there is punishment.

 

And then there is denial, mental gymnastics, bargaining with yourself to lessen your self-loathing when you know you are totally wrong but just aren't ready to 'fess up to it, even to yourself.

 

C'mon man, this whole thread is embarrassing. Show some dignity.

 

 

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Aurora11

I would like to tell you my honest opinions. Many people might judge me or get mad for this but I don't care.

 

As someone who used to play this game for like 4-5 years (not continously, I had long breaks time to time too) Online was good at the very first. It was fun. It was made to enjoy people. and I must say I had a quite a fun time ack in those years. After it became kinda mundane to me and saw there are very wonderful mods out there, I decided to leave the Online and wanted to play singleplayer with many many mods installed. Well it was felt wonderful too. Breathtaking graphics, real cars and all that. However I didn't have a good gpu so I couldn't go too far with high quality mods and I stopped playing it, was thinking of it's for good.

 

Well it was "for good" for a couple of years. Then I just saw so so many things sh*tstar added and why not, I wanted to try out the new things. Was hoping it's going to be fun you know. The very first moment I opened the map in Online, I saw weird icons all over the map. Asked a friend of mine what the hell are these. He said they are called oppressor mk2 with insanely op missiles and costs you 10k if you blow them up. I was like a BIG WTF?? Although I didn't know their real purpose. So anyway I continued playing and everything was new to me, every single thing. It was like I'm playing GTAO for the first time. Quickly enough I noticed why. Well, because this wasn't "that" GTA Online I played 1.5 years ago. It was a completely different game now. A game solely and ultimately built for this: "Either pay the f*ck up for our shark cards or grind the f*ck up for a couple of bucks.". and those every op things were purporsely built for ultimate griefing.

 

I mean I get it there may come a time you face with griefers. There were times too in past where people would come to kill me while I'm doing jobs. but it was just car chase with guns blazing and that's all. There weren't any million dollar Krieger that turns corner like f*cking glued on the road. There were just a few super cars and it was up to your and your opponent's driving and driveby shooting skills. If you were good at it, you could either kill him or evade him. It was very fair, balanced and you had many chances to protect yourself. How about now? I mean what kind of chances you have to protect a postop van slower than donkey against a flying mk2 or 20 different type of jets or fast tank or heavily weaponized vehicles? You got none. This is why I said "for a couple of bucks.". Because the game forces you to grind as hell, does everything to ruin your grinding as well.

 

So what did I do? Since the game was already dead to me, I didn't give 2 sh*ts about my account after that point and wasted 30$ to buy a mod menu. Yes I bought a mod menu. Not saying this to encourage anyone though and my honest opinion is don't waste any money to mod menus either, but definetly don't waste anything to game. Go buy yourself some iced mocha instead, gives a lot more satisfaction at the long term. Anywho. I bought the menu and then just added myself 10 billion dollars. Then I went and just started buying whatever I want. I saw my money being drained too quickly so I decided to have some more money. Left it at auto before going to sleep and woke up with 160 billion dollars. Yeah I added 160 billion dollars too because why the f*ck not. Must say felt really good at first, quite a hype I had when I was just pressing Purchase button on everything I like. I modified cars too, did many roleplayings with my friends too, went to many griefer hunting with god mode Ruiner 2000 too. Then it just bleh again. 1 more fun month and then what? I mean am I just going to keep driving my cars or riding bicycle at Vespuci beach? or am I going to bother mysel going after griefers? You see what I'm getting at, the thing is.. What's the damn point??? It's already a dead game man. If you ask me this isn't even a game. I just wasted hundred of hours and 30 $ for nothing... I mean don't think you will have any satisfaction at the real. Surely the nice looking car you finally bought with your barely grinded money going to give you some excitement. But how long? Just drive it a couple of days and then you will be just "puff what the hell". This is why they keep adding new things to the game after all these years instead of GTA 6. So you can always have some things to buy in your mind and wish and you continue grinding and grinding and grinding. It's a well hidden psycological warfare with you and they are good at winning it. Because people can't see the long future in there. Why? Always too much occupied with overwhelming amount of things.

 

Now as for you and your friends who creating playlists. I know this is just a passion for you guys. You just doing it because you have a passion for it. But what you are doing in the big picture is giving them more cows for milking. I know you people passionate about this, but don't waste your passion on dead ends. There are a lot many different games, good games. Not too much, but they still exist. You can create content for those games instead. The games that have developers that appreciates your creations.

 

As for myself lastly if anyone wondering, I doubt it but just saying it away. Now I have a good gpu and seeing many beautiful mods out there. So I'm playing singleplayer with those mods, it feels a lot more realistic to drive around, do missions now. Some times doing roleplays just by myself. Sometimes boring sometimes exciting. Taking photos too. Creating some small scenes for myself mostly for my roleplays. Am I wasting time? Well, ultimately yes. but for the time being, it's making me happy. So I'm just doing something that makes me happy and not giving any cows for those greedy sh*tstars. Yeah I know it was a very "whatever" thing to say, but it's just a whatever, I don't have high expectancies...

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Mirror Park Resident

Didn't take part in it so, unaffected. Was it even available on PC?

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Black-Dragon96
1 hour ago, Gunbladelad said:

To be honest they need to take harsher measures than just character wipes against glitchers - account bans would be a good place to start - and if the glitchers keep on making new accounts, ban the system they're playing on entirely.

No offense, but even I think thats stupid.

Heck I think that the full on resets are a little harsh even if the people who did this specific glitch should recieve a darwin award for their stupidity. Take the cash they glitched and the stuff they bought since they got detected, in addition give them a temp ban for a month, problem solved. Next time they do it, all of the above with a 2 month temp, the next time one month more and so on. Thats how moneyglitches should be punished.

Resetting accounts is pretty much the lazy "we dont give a f*ck about you unless you pay us money and even then we dont care" way of doing it.

 

Before they ban people for glitching cash, they should consider banning godmode jets and speedos. And before that happens, I personally could not give any less of a f*ck about people who glitch their cash.

 

39 minutes ago, Shiloh Comes said:

You have no right to be there. If you come first and I don't, you've ripped me off because you shouldn't have even been there. i don't take that well.

I hope you think the same about the people who buy cashcards.

There is pretty much only one diffrence between glitched and bought cash, the real world money forked over to R*.

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Xiled

If only they would of done this in early 2014 and scared people to begin with to not "cheat" money. Instead they waited years to finally do something. Mind you it took them like 2 years to finally go after that cash they let players transfer to 8th gen. Kinda scary when they do nothing for like 6 years than suddenly take the nuclear option. Much like their publisher who goes Defcon 1 on anyone or anything that is using their work without their permission without asking questions first.

 

Wiping players years of progress is a lazy way of going about all this. They should of instead taken the money from the pool they made from this glitch and given a temp ban. Something they should of done with the locate plane glitch with lester. Giving players a temp ban would of scared them into not doing the chips glitch and apartment glitch. People didnt think they were serious since they showed that "we caught you" screen. This just proves they care more about the damn money the instead of anything else that happens within the game. Think there is a reason they keep losing top employees left and right. 

 

Players making people quit the game for good from griefing them badly enough? 
R* Uh, lets add something that lets them grief even more that we can also heavily monetize. 

 

Players using godmode speedo for about 2 years and other god mode glitches, even a godmode glitch that is working as we wipe players for "cheating"?

R* Uh, everything's under control. Situation normal.

 

Players "cheating" money in a 7 year old game where a majority of players have cheated in someway since launch?  

R* OMG CHEATER WIPE WIPE - Our poor defenseless game balance. How could our players ever do this?????

 

The money cards should also count as cheating since its just a paid version of something you could exploit for money. Paid cheating is just as bad as free cheating. 

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lkrooked

I don’t think anyone in my crew was affected, but I could see someone waiting to “quit” without making it obvious that they were wiped. 

 

Either way, I have no sympathy. The glitch was easy, and a lot of the people I’ve seen complaining expected their balance to be adjusted, but seeing all these “I had all my garages filled with Deluxos/PR4s” it makes sense that R* went with full wipes. They’re not stupid, adjusting bank accounts when people have millions in cars wouldn’t have done anything. 

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DuhBritishTea

Didn't participate but R*'s statement on "maintain a healthy game environment for all players"  is hilarious considering they let mod menus on pc run free and leave god mode glitches unpatched. Honestly I feel the same frustration about R* being money-hungry and not really caring about anything else.

 

People knew the risk and took it anyway. You're better off doing b2b casino/bogdan anyways since I don't see any reports of people being wiped for that.

And on pc I have a bad feeling people are just going to download mod menus to recover back their lost account progress anyway. Why not when it's clear R* doesn't give a single f*ck about cheaters on pc.

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Zak Ras
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5 hours ago, HamwithCheese said:

What was this glitch? Must've been easy and profitable for wipes to be made 

From what I can guess from the one tutorial I looked up to see how stupidly obvious it would be to the Anti-Cheat systems, it's something to do with the property in the sixth slot having the value of an Office applied to it by buying a FREE garage then loading into creator and then going back into GTA Online... same kinda logic as the clothing transfer.

 

There seemed to be an obsession with having purchased the Criminal Enterprise Starter pack, I'm not sure if it's tied to what properties that thing gives you... but now those players have been wiped...

 

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Rockstar must be going (cause I sure as hell am);

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Pedinhuh

I didn't used this glitch because I knew R* was watching, also because i dont do glitches unless its for trolling...This glitch came RIGHT AFTER a update and way too many idiots were making over 100 millions a day by using only that glitch.

 

Of course a money wipe was happening, it was only natural...Just like the Lester's locate a airplane glitch.

 

Anyway, I don't feel any pity. Whoever was glitching knew the risks.

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HamwithCheese
39 minutes ago, Zak Ras said:

From what I can guess from the one tutorial I looked up to see how stupidly obvious it would be to the Anti-Cheat systems, it's something to do with the property in the sixth slot having the value of an Office applied to it by buying a FREE garage then loading into creator and then going back into GTA Online..

Brutal. Sounds similar to the office glitch I used a couple years back, luckily (or unluckily rather) I was never touched. I guess the good news is, almost anything r* adds will be subject to a money glitch lol

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I don't care if others glitch money.

 

I'm an avid glitcher but I grinded enough money before I got into glitching so I never did a money glitch, not even the heist finale replay glitch aka Bogdan. (I have participated in the duped gold glitch from the casino heist but only when receiving 15% cut.) For example, I figured out an aircraft / special vehicle merge for PC to get access to customization that is otherwise unavailable.

 

I did enjoy grinding but I can totally see why others don't. Even if you only want to buy a few vehicles it means serious grinding. That's why money glitches are so popular in the first place. Maybe Rockstar should consider lowering prices and/or increase income instead of wiping people who glitch money. I think Rockstar went with the wipe because they figured glitchers don't spend money on sharkcards anyway, but there are some who improve the gaming experience for others.

 

The casino heist is definitely a good way for wealthy players to help poor players make money though, and can even be glitched like Bogdan, so maybe that's a solution for your crew members, @Jenkiiii.

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