What's wrong with the lobbies?

[Lonely-Martin]

3 minutes ago, hugh750 said:

yep, i was in a 3 player lobby today.

Marvellous!

[ALifeOfMisery]

Aside from all of the gameplay benefits of low population lobbies I've been very pleasantly surprised by the character of other players since this started.

 

It does seem to have driven most griefer types away from the game, unsurprisingly, I guess.

 

On the very rare occasion I see another player (which feels like a random event in itself now, which I like) they aren't usually rushing around, usually keep to themselves and sometimes are genuinely friendly.

 

I can't think of a single negative to these small lobbies, the game is stable, I don't get disconnected, there's more to do because everything works as it should and when I do meet another player they aren't a d*ckhead.

 

I can't help but feel like R* could have tried to "fix" small lobbies and have chosen not to. I hope that they just leave it alone.

[StyxTx]

2 hours ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

Aside from all of the gameplay benefits of low population lobbies I've been very pleasantly surprised by the character of other players since this started.

 

It does seem to have driven most griefer types away from the game, unsurprisingly, I guess.

 

On the very rare occasion I see another player (which feels like a random event in itself now, which I like) they aren't usually rushing around, usually keep to themselves and sometimes are genuinely friendly.

 

I can't think of a single negative to these small lobbies, the game is stable, I don't get disconnected, there's more to do because everything works as it should and when I do meet another player they aren't a d*ckhead.

 

I can't help but feel like R* could have tried to "fix" small lobbies and have chosen not to. I hope that they just leave it alone.

I had one player kill me last night (the only other one on the server) when I was finishing clearing a revenuer check point. I spawned back in, went into defensive, went back to them, watched them try to aim while I zig zagged around. Next thing I know they are taking off to give themselves time to leave the server. What's the word for those types of people? lol

 

Overall, the few I do see are ok. Just doing their thing. Even posses. I've even had time to emote a few. Not used to that.

 

I've been considering setting up my settings for free aim so I get into free aim lobbies. I'm not too bad with it and the rolling block is my weapon of choice and I love using the scope on the others. The only reason I hesitate is because it's really hard to knock off 5 wolves coming at you or even the cats since they hop around alot when running. But there is no law that says I can't just run away. The advantage is that many griefers avoid free aim lobbies. Wonder why. Got free aim plus defensive mode that negates paint it black. Could that play a part?

 

They say they want a challenge. Free aim adds a whole new challenge that is missing in auto aim. Those bounties aren't so easy. Neither is trying to fight a bunch of lawmen. Trying to shoot up towns can turn out real bad too. I find it kinda fun really.

Edited September 30, 2020 by StyxTx

[Nuclearranciddog]

People who whine about griefers suck, it's a game. You get experience for killing other players. Suck it up. I for one am looking forward to lassoing the next player I see.

 

Fix the game. What is the point of playing online if you never come across anyone except for the mundane events?

Seriously, I went on vacation and came back to my game being almost unpleasant. And especially during a time where human contact is so low, who wants to roam a barren map alone in a game meant to be played with friends?

[StyxTx]

10 minutes ago, Nuclearranciddog said:

People who whine about griefers suck, it's a game. You get experience for killing other players. Suck it up. I for one am looking forward to lassoing the next player I see.

 

Fix the game. What is the point of playing online if you never come across anyone except for the mundane events?

Seriously, I went on vacation and came back to my game being almost unpleasant. And especially during a time where human contact is so low, who wants to roam a barren map alone in a game meant to be played with friends?

In your own words, suck it up. You get a lot more experience from just about everything else in the game so that is a really lame excuse.

 

Now tough guy. Do you use auto aim and PIB? I'm sure you do. Takes a lot of skill, doesn't it? Psht. I bet you also cry "cheater" when you lose a fight. Probably leave the server if it looks like it may happen. How does your lassoo work with players in defensive? It doesn't but I'm sure you think those people are using some kind of cheat.

 

You know, if it's so bad just don't play. I doubt anyone will miss you.

Edited September 30, 2020 by StyxTx

[Nuclearranciddog]

5 minutes ago, StyxTx said:

In your own words, suck it up. You get a lot more experience from just about everything else in the game so that is a really lame excuse.

 

Now tough guy. Do you use auto aim and PIB? I'm sure you do. Takes a lot of skill, doesn't it? Psht. I bet you also cry "cheater" when you lose a fight. Probably leave the server if it looks like it may happen. How does your lassoo work with players in defensive? It doesn't but I'm sure you think those people are using some kind of cheat.

A very adolescent response. I do nothing you accuse me of. The game is certainly boring without as many people like you to bully in it.

Nobody would grief you if you weren't such a crying little girl about it LOL

[Direwrath]

56 minutes ago, Nuclearranciddog said:

A very adolescent response. I do nothing you accuse me of. The game is certainly boring without as many people like you to bully in it.

Nobody would grief you if you weren't such a crying little girl about it LOL

You like to bully random players in a video game? And you complain that @StyxTx had an adolescent response to your comment? 

 

No, griefers are not as common in this game. But when they do show up, most of the time they have to cheat or worm their way around because they cannot hack it in real game play. 

All of the ones I've encountered have done so, using the mechanics of the game in a way it was not meant to be used, shooting from cover with a sniper, or trying to pot shot unsuspecting players in the back to get a quick kill. Lol, and

the ones that try to lasso me in defensive end up hating the bolas with a passion.

 

You might find that kind of play fun, others find it annoying. Some find it rather boring. So your opinion does not supersede the opinions of the players that don't like any type of "bully" behavior in this game. And given that most pvp players are amongst those who hate true griefing players, should R* pass an honest pvp lawman role, it might make the game a little less fun for the opportunists.

 

3 hours ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

Aside from all of the gameplay benefits of low population lobbies I've been very pleasantly surprised by the character of other players since this started.

 

It does seem to have driven most griefer types away from the game, unsurprisingly, I guess.

 

On the very rare occasion I see another player (which feels like a random event in itself now, which I like) they aren't usually rushing around, usually keep to themselves and sometimes are genuinely friendly.

 

I can't think of a single negative to these small lobbies, the game is stable, I don't get disconnected, there's more to do because everything works as it should and when I do meet another player they aren't a d*ckhead.

 

I can't help but feel like R* could have tried to "fix" small lobbies and have chosen not to. I hope that they just leave it alone.

It has honestly made meeting the other players in the server more meaningful. I've been able to actually emote the ones we have encountered and had an honest greeting instead of them pushing through town as fast as they could just to get back out of dodge should the next trigger happy fool come around.

I did have one in Tumbleweed pull his gun when I approached to get the dig by the church, but I tipped my hat and moved on my way. I think the player was relieved because they did the same and they were gone. 

[GrungeNinja]

2 hours ago, StyxTx said:

I doubt anyone will miss you.

He is the exact type of player I miss since low pop lobbies  


Hey @Nuclearranciddog, if you ever see me online, please come bully me!   

nick is LayneStal

Edited September 30, 2020 by GrungeNinja

[StyxTx]

9 hours ago, Nuclearranciddog said:

A very adolescent response. I do nothing you accuse me of. The game is certainly boring without as many people like you to bully in it.

Nobody would grief you if you weren't such a crying little girl about it LOL

Talk is cheap. Anytime you find me, come bully me. I'm cowering dude. Catch me in free aim. Same name I have in here. Oh wait, you won't be in those lobbies. I was looking forward to it. LOL

 

I am sorry that you get bullied in real life and feel the need to go into a game to let off frustration from your inability to protect yourself. Ever consider taking a self defense course?

 

Edited September 30, 2020 by StyxTx

[TheEMP1978]

10 hours ago, Nuclearranciddog said:

People who whine about griefers suck, it's a game. You get experience for killing other players. Suck it up. I for one am looking forward to lassoing the next player I see.

 

Fix the game. What is the point of playing online if you never come across anyone except for the mundane events?

Seriously, I went on vacation and came back to my game being almost unpleasant. And especially during a time where human contact is so low, who wants to roam a barren map alone in a game meant to be played with friends?

You're playing a wild west game & are complaining about how lonely it is saying it's meant to be played with friends. Yeah you can still play with your friends nobody is stopping you, what you expect the population of Times Square in RDR2? Again you're playing a wild west game so these small lobbies are more accurate, go play GTA5 if you want constant griefer stupid sh*t.

Edited September 30, 2020 by TheEMP1978

[StyxTx]

19 minutes ago, TheEMP1978 said:

You're playing a wild west game & are complaining about how lonely it is ..

A good point. It was pretty lonely in the old west. In fact, it still is in much of the west. When I drove a truck I drove through thousands of miles of nothingness out west. I enjoyed being away from the heavy traffic and high population areas.

[Buddy Hightower]

This game is far worse with small lobbies. 

I can understand some like it and there should be an option for invite only sessions, however, I don't think I would ever use it.

I want 20+ people in the session AND I want all the content to work properly.

 

There's no excuse for this false choice of small lobbies with working content VS large lobbies without working content.

[Gettin up]

24 minutes ago, Buddy Hightower said:

This game is far worse with small lobbies. 

How so?

[Lonely-Martin]

29 minutes ago, Buddy Hightower said:

This game is far worse with small lobbies. 

I can understand some like it and there should be an option for invite only sessions, however, I don't think I would ever use it.

I want 20+ people in the session AND I want all the content to work properly.

 

There's no excuse for this false choice of small lobbies with working content VS large lobbies without working content.

I agree with the bottom paragraph, but unfortunately it's a R* online game and we're all too used to it being compromised.

 

GTA:O is compromised in favour of the PvP/griefer element (more so regarding businesses), RDRO currently the opposite. Neither game really offers all playstyles the game they want, only the game R* wants us to play their way.

 

I long for true competition for this company to push them to be more creative, offer much more freedom, and actually address all the petty beta-esque bugs their online games still have.

 

But they've got a stranglehold on things too much and aren't pushed like they need to be to truly deliver. They're so complacent.

 

16 hours ago, Nuclearranciddog said:

People who whine about griefers suck, it's a game. You get experience for killing other players. Suck it up. I for one am looking forward to lassoing the next player I see.

 

Fix the game. What is the point of playing online if you never come across anyone except for the mundane events?

Seriously, I went on vacation and came back to my game being almost unpleasant. And especially during a time where human contact is so low, who wants to roam a barren map alone in a game meant to be played with friends?

Although this horsesh*t never fails to entertain, lol.

 

Some really believe everyone should be sheep and think the same, want the same, and be the same. Almost as if 'preference' or 'opinion' are words removed from their vocabulary.

 

Look those two words up young man, humans have always had different opinions and wants from their entertainment. Suck it up, that's life.

 

15 hours ago, Nuclearranciddog said:

The game is certainly boring without as many people like you to bully in it.

You seek people to bully? How tragic!

 

I hope you find the help you need and peace you so desperately want. Be well. 

Edited September 30, 2020 by Lonely-Martin
Wording and autospell fail.

[Buddy Hightower]

1 hour ago, Gettin up said:

How so?

Because they aren't enough other players around.

 

[hugh750]

1 hour ago, Buddy Hightower said:

Because they aren't enough other players around.

 

at least we don't have to worry about getting attacked by griefers (even in defense mode).

[Caffeination]

I noticed that the game keeps trying to put me in populated sessions, but they all eventually whittle down in numbers. Like, when I got back from Railroad Baron, there were 9 other players, and five minutes later, there were only four others, which became just me and some gal a few more minutes later when I was about to call it a day.

[kcole4001]

51 minutes ago, hugh750 said:

at least we don't have to worry about getting attacked by griefers (even in defense mode).

There are still a few around.

 

I had some dimwit rank 8 start shooting at me on the way to the butcher, horse fully loaded and dragging a deer.

Got my sales done and he was standing beside me with his lasso out, but I rode away.

I'm sure he was confounded why that didn't work (defensive mode), then he tried shooting at me again.

I stopped and dropped him with a Carcano round to the chest and continued riding back to camp, then he tries to have a feud with me.

Feck off, dipsh*t! 

Obviously someone hauling a bunch of cargo on their way somewhere in defensive mode is looking for a gunfight...

 

The game was laggy anyway, trains had disappeared and the screenshot software was acting strange, I had no patience for gunslinger wannabees.

Did my camp donations and had to run a supply mission.

Wasn't even gonna bother swapping to bolt action and semi-auto shotgun (I keep both loaded with explosive ammo just for grieftards), but he was gone by then.

[darkmaster234]

1 hour ago, kcole4001 said:

There are still a few around.

 

I had some dimwit rank 8 start shooting at me on the way to the butcher, horse fully loaded and dragging a deer.

Got my sales done and he was standing beside me with his lasso out, but I rode away.

I'm sure he was confounded why that didn't work (defensive mode), then he tried shooting at me again.

I stopped and dropped him with a Carcano round to the chest and continued riding back to camp, then he tries to have a feud with me.

Feck off, dipsh*t! 

Obviously someone hauling a bunch of cargo on their way somewhere in defensive mode is looking for a gunfight...

 

The game was laggy anyway, trains had disappeared and the screenshot software was acting strange, I had no patience for gunslinger wannabees.

Did my camp donations and had to run a supply mission.

Wasn't even gonna bother swapping to bolt action and semi-auto shotgun (I keep both loaded with explosive ammo just for grieftards), but he was gone by then.

I usually take those bastards down with express rounds  and weapons like cattleman and carbine repeater.

Tonics only when surrounded by a posse and explosives only if outnumbered dramatically and they use it first.

 

I like to show them how things are done!

[Direwrath]

11 hours ago, StyxTx said:

A good point. It was pretty lonely in the old west. In fact, it still is in much of the west. When I drove a truck I drove through thousands of miles of nothingness out west. I enjoyed being away from the heavy traffic and high population areas.

I'm originally from central Nebraska, small town. Yeah you don't start getting into heavy populations until you start heading further east towards the rivers. You head further into western Nebraska you start seeing the small towns scatter. I know Nebraska/Kansas/Missouri/Iowa history, we are kind of expected to learn it, and many don't really realize just how empty the plains were, and they were just the gateway to the west.

 

 

6 hours ago, Buddy Hightower said:

This game is far worse with small lobbies. 

I can understand some like it and there should be an option for invite only sessions, however, I don't think I would ever use it.

I want 20+ people in the session AND I want all the content to work properly.

 

There's no excuse for this false choice of small lobbies with working content VS large lobbies without working content.

That's true, there shouldn't be a reason why players cannot choose the lobby style they want that works correctly. It's what I find ridiculous about the whole thing, the game mechanics work great without so many players.

Which, isn't fair to players who enjoy the social interactions. So even if they did manage to give the players what they want, who is to say that the higher populated lobbies would work correctly for the pvp players? 

Why is this so hard for them to figure out?

[darkmaster234]

48 minutes ago, Direwrath said:

I'm originally from central Nebraska, small town. Yeah you don't start getting into heavy populations until you start heading further east towards the rivers. You head further into western Nebraska you start seeing the small towns scatter. I know Nebraska/Kansas/Missouri/Iowa history, we are kind of expected to learn it, and many don't really realize just how empty the plains were, and they were just the gateway to the west.

 

 

That's true, there shouldn't be a reason why players cannot choose the lobby style they want that works correctly. It's what I find ridiculous about the whole thing, the game mechanics work great without so many players.

Which, isn't fair to players who enjoy the social interactions. So even if they did manage to give the players what they want, who is to say that the higher populated lobbies would work correctly for the pvp players? 

Why is this so hard for them to figure out?

Its all to the servers type, rockstar is not only lazy with the new content, but is cheap as f*ck with the structure... its incredible that one of the best selling companies avoids investment as if their lives went on it. With the pvsp scheme a world as dynamic as rdo will never work correctly with 20 players, we should remind ourselves that gta has way less dynamic content and is devoid of wildlife in the first place.

Edited October 1, 2020 by darkmaster234

[kcole4001]

41 minutes ago, darkmaster234 said:

I usually take those bastards down with express rounds  and weapons like cattleman and carbine repeater.

Tonics only when surrounded by a posse and explosives only if outnumbered dramatically and they use it first.

 

I like to show them how things are done!

Today's guy was a real lowby.

One express Carcano round did him, I had to wait until he connected and turned red, the first few shots missed, the couple that did connect did little damage.

I wasn't even going to shoot at him until he actually hit me, then I thought 'f*ck it, time for a lesson', then left it at that.

 

I could have kept on at him, he clearly wanted to go, but I don't play to entertain these idjits.

Not my idea of fun, there were things I had planned to do.

It's like you're in your yard building a shed and some random dolt keeps running by and hiding your circular saw in the bushes 'cause he thinks it's funny.

 

He''ll either learn to behave in a civil fashion or get bored because it's not 'Woody's wild west version of CoD'.

[darkmaster234]

3 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

Today's guy was a real lowby.

One express Carcano round did him, I had to wait until he connected and turned red, the first few shots missed, the couple that did connect did little damage.

I wasn't even going to shoot at him until he actually hit me, then I thought 'f*ck it, time for a lesson', then left it at that.

 

I could have kept on at him, he clearly wanted to go, but I don't play to entertain these idjits.

Not my idea of fun, there were things I had planned to do.

It's like you're in your yard building a shed and some random dolt keeps running by and hiding your circular saw in the bushes 'cause he thinks it's funny.

 

He''ll either learn to behave in a civil fashion or get bored because it's not 'Woody's wild west version of CoD'.

Yeah, i usually go on my way if i am killed while in my business, and only enter in the "f*ck you griefer" mode if pursued.

[kcole4001]

Just now, darkmaster234 said:

Yeah, i usually go on my way if i am killed while in my business, and only enter in the "f*ck you griefer" mode if pursued.

Yeah, I've usually just ridden away, but he hit me a couple of times and that was enough.

I  was frustrated about the screenshot program not working and the laggy performance.

Funny though, he was just running down the road on foot from the Valentine butcher, I never did see his horse.

I figured he'd follow anyway, my camp was just down the road to the south, I went there to get a few things tidied up before going to visit crazy Harriet, so needed to spend some time to make sure she'd cool off and not spray me (which worked).

[StyxTx]

3 hours ago, Caffeination said:

I noticed that the game keeps trying to put me in populated sessions, but they all eventually whittle down in numbers. Like, when I got back from Railroad Baron, there were 9 other players, and five minutes later, there were only four others, which became just me and some gal a few more minutes later when I was about to call it a day.

Those lobbies they put you in after those, aren't those the other people that were doing that Rail Baron or whatever else it was someone was doing? Like legendary bounties, players get dropped in the same place as the other players after doing them?

5 hours ago, Buddy Hightower said:

Because they aren't enough other players around.

 

Players for what if I may ask?

[hugh750]

4 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

There are still a few around.

 

I had some dimwit rank 8 start shooting at me on the way to the butcher, horse fully loaded and dragging a deer.

Got my sales done and he was standing beside me with his lasso out, but I rode away.

I'm sure he was confounded why that didn't work (defensive mode), then he tried shooting at me again.

I stopped and dropped him with a Carcano round to the chest and continued riding back to camp, then he tries to have a feud with me.

Feck off, dipsh*t! 

Obviously someone hauling a bunch of cargo on their way somewhere in defensive mode is looking for a gunfight...

 

The game was laggy anyway, trains had disappeared and the screenshot software was acting strange, I had no patience for gunslinger wannabees.

Did my camp donations and had to run a supply mission.

Wasn't even gonna bother swapping to bolt action and semi-auto shotgun (I keep both loaded with explosive ammo just for grieftards), but he was gone by then.

i did mention this before but, about a week or two ago while i was in valentine a random kept pulling me off my horse, i was in defensive mode but i managed to kill him with dynamite 4 times, he only killed me twice, i placed a parley on him.

[ALifeOfMisery]

6 hours ago, StyxTx said:

Players for what if I may ask?

[Caffeination]

6 hours ago, StyxTx said:

Those lobbies they put you in after those, aren't those the other people that were doing that Rail Baron or whatever else it was someone was doing? Like legendary bounties, players get dropped in the same place as the other players after doing them?

Yeah, I just finished Railroad Baron for the freemode event daily gold before being put into that lobby, must be it.

[DentureDynamite]

15 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

I had some dimwit rank 8 start shooting at me on the way to the butcher, horse fully loaded and dragging a deer.

Do you mind if I ask where that was? (Just noticed it was Valentine) Though more often than not, I've run into those dweebs when I'm outside Tumbleweed--might be because the response from lawmen a certain distance outside is little to none?

Edited October 1, 2020 by DentureDynamite

[kcole4001]

Just now, DentureDynamite said:

Do you mind if I ask where that was? More often than not, I've run into those dweebs when I'm outside Tumbleweed--might be because the response from lawmen a certain distance outside is little to none?

I was riding to the butcher in Valentine, and this guy had stolen a carriage and was riding east along the road just on the southern edge of town when I passed him while towing the deer.

He started firing on the straight road that the butcher is on in town, he must have turned and followed and it took him a minute to catch up.

 

He waited beside me at the butcher while I did my business, then tried to lasso me, which didn't work as I was in defensive.

I mounted up and started off south to my camp, which was just down the road from town.

He ran after me down the road firing when he finally hit me a couple of times, so I got my rifle out, stopped and plugged him, then rode off to camp as I originally intended.