NEW LEGENDARY ANIMALS: THE TECA AND SUN GATORS (August 4th)

[Lonely-Martin]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

Yea... Between PC issues, strong speculation of session wide cooldown timers on legendary animals and griefing when trying to hunt or collect samples, no update for RDO has strengthened the demand for private lobbies more than the Naturalist update.

 

Trader was so-so but you could argue it suffered greatly from sh*t animal spawns, Collector it doesn't matter, BH is instanced so it doesn't matter either and Moonshiner was just broken full stop, but Naturalist? Other players can intentionally very easily negatively impact your experience through griefing or hacking, but worse still, other players can negatively impact your experience by just existing if the speculation around session wide cooldowns is true.

 

Going back to the interview with Rob Nelson in 2019:

 

"This overarching philosophy is why Rockstar is so apprehensive to introduce elements like a passive mode that walls off players from each other or free-aim servers that split the player base. "It would be easier for us to do that then what we're trying to do here, which is allow people to still feel like they are existing in the world that has an element of Wild Westiness to it and not completely make it two experiences," Nelson says. "If we can't get the balancing right then we can always do that, but what we're trying to do is allow people to, however they want to play the game, interact with the world and still feel like they're all part of the same world together. Where we think it works best and when it's the most fun is if you are actually able to roleplay in this world to a certain degree.""

 

Doing laps of Lemoyne and the Bayou to find one legendary animal in a region with half a dozen but not seeing one because someone on the other side of the map got the spawn and/or because all the RNG didn't line up isn't roleplay and it isn't fun.

Trouble is, after almost 2 years now, I've just given up caring if lobby choices come and I'm sure the lack of them has driven many away that would have stayed had they arrived. My feedback has stopped as they've shown they aren't going to listen to or entertain options like that in this game and with less asking, the chances further reduce and help R* feel they aren't wanted or needed.

 

Although, given the issues on PC, I am surprised these have been added like so. Been reading the way people mess with the time and weather too much to think anyone there can get anything done, lol. Such a shame R* can't/won't do more to offer more freedom.

 

1 hour ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

The only thing preventing me from b*tching too much about the ridiculous  Legendary Animal free roam spawns is the silver lining that I think all of the garment sets look, to put it mildly, f*cking awful.

^ That too. The clothing isn't for me and I've got my look how I enjoy it, so they offer me no incentive to even try public legendary animals.

 

But to see these added for those keen on added freemode activities or the outfits themselves is no bad thing overall of course. 

[Lemoyne outlaw]

well i just got the teca gator. so here is the story in case it could help you get it. so i had just got on for the first time of the day. i read the newswire post about the new stuff. but i was busy earlier. so i got on and rode all the way to lagras from valentine as thats where i spawned. i wanted to get the sun gator first as it was day in the game. so i got there waited around but nothing. after a few game hours it was getting late and close to nine. so i went to the teca location. at first it was all clear weather. and i also saw a bunch of other players in the area too. it gave me flashbacks from those drops rockstar did for gta online with the beer hats. people everywhere. i was about to give up because i figured that if the gator spawned. then it would be a huge battle. but i stuck with it. i stayed in one part so they would leave me alone. eventually they left. i assume they got bored or maybe they were not even looking for the gator. for the first few game hours. it was all clear. i was getting bored. but then it started getting foggy. and i realized that it was my chance to get it.

 

 

so i kept running up and down the area and soon enough i saw the message that said legendary animal in the area. i saw him. he was on his own tiny land piece. i shot him. but then a swarm of other gators came and chased. so i was overrun and i died. i was so upset because i thought that it was over and he would despawn. but no. when i spawned i saw the icon on the map. so i raced over there. and i used my elephant rifle to kill him. then i killed the rest of his group. as i was skinning him i saw a blue dot. i was getting nervous so i hurried to leave. i loaded up my explosive bullets in case i had to defend myself. so i raced to saint denis and sold the skin to gus and made the gator outfit. it looks awesome. so that is what happened. i hope it might help. good luck to everyone trying to catch it. he took a few elephant rifle shots. so he is strong. and he had his group of other gators. so be careful.

[StandardDonkey]

I also got the Teca. First try. On the island by the skeleton in the boat. About 6 a.m., no fog. Unfortunately the gator hood is attached to a f*cking winter coat that you can't even wear in that area without heat stroking.

[AdamNortonUK]

This is my own opinion and my own guess but I don’t think Legendary Animal spawns will be fixed until at least the drip feed for them ends.

 

As they will be reluctant to fix spawns due to them being locked away as drip feed as they will need to edit that code also that is keeping them locked away from us until they drop.

 

It could also be the code that is locking them away from us until they drop that is effecting the spawn rate, so it could be that once that final legendary animal drip feed is dropped, that spawns start working properly without a fix.

[AStiffBreeze]

So which legendary animals can currently ONLY be found in free roam (i.e. not offered as a mission by Harriet)?

[ram_pete67]

in one week of playing i came across one legendary animal in freeroam so far. seems hard to find them ...

 

[djb204]

8 hours ago, CrissRiot said:

For anyone wondering:

 

Sun Gator: Near the L in Lagras, Daytime

Teca Gator: South Islands east of Shady Belle, Night w/ Storm/Rain

 

Now, if Legendary sh*t actually SPAWNS that would be great.

As long as you under lvl 15 in Naturalist you should be fine with the spawning 

[TagoKG]

3 minutes ago, djb204 said:

As long as you under lvl 15 in Naturalist you should be fine with the spawning 

im level 20 and already hunt 5 legendary animals today but in solo lobby

[CrissRiot]

6 minutes ago, djb204 said:

As long as you under lvl 15 in Naturalist you should be fine with the spawning 

Hah, no. I've been rank 20 for a few days now.

[djb204]

They should rename ALL. The legendary animals in free roam to GAVIN.

3 minutes ago, TagoKG said:

im level 20 and already hunt 5 legendary animals today but in solo lobby

Free roam or mission based?

[TagoKG]

2 minutes ago, djb204 said:

They should rename ALL. The legendary animals in free roam to GAVIN.

Free roam or mission based?

Free roam

 

 

[djb204]

29 minutes ago, TagoKG said:

Free roam

 

 

Lucky. I was in a solo session more than a few times (rank 20 Naturalist) and haven’t seen anything.

[CrissRiot]

JUST managed to trigger the Sun Gator. Phew.

[Shadowfennekin]

Here's an idea, why not just make us pay DOUBLE for the outfit without the tools?

I'd rather just pay up than waste hours of my life trying to get spawns that don't exist

[ALifeOfMisery]

5 minutes ago, Shadowfennekin said:

Here's an idea, why not just make us pay DOUBLE for the outfit without the tools?

I'd rather just pay up than waste hours of my life trying to get spawns that don't exist

I was talking to @Rafae S about this on twitter yesterday, R* should have just used a renamed version of the "Buy it Now" and "Trade Price" options from GTAO.

 

Wouldn't have cost me anything, because I'm not buying those coats, but I'd rather have the option of paying more to skip the RNG time sink.

[Pocket Fox]

I've only seen one LA in free roam, came across it by 100% accident.

 

Never seen one again since.

[Shadowfennekin]

19 minutes ago, Pocket Fox said:

I've only seen one LA in free roam, came across it by 100% accident.

 

Never seen one again since.

Same, only reason it even happened was cause the spawn for one of the legendary swine is literally where I short cut to my Moonshine shack. Now that I know it spawns there of course, it never appears

[Don Maximus Meridius]

Tried both gators a lot of times, right places, right weather, right time, nothing. I don't know if is because everytime 3-4 players around the area are blocking the respawn, or if there is a glitch with players above lvl 15 that block the event.

 

Someone above lvl 15 naturalist role found any legendary in free roam?

[joel15cat]

47 minutes ago, Don Maximus Meridius said:

Tried both gators a lot of times, right places, right weather, right time, nothing. I don't know if is because everytime 3-4 players around the area are blocking the respawn, or if there is a glitch with players above lvl 15 that block the event.

 

Someone above lvl 15 naturalist role found any legendary in free roam?

YES

[joel15cat]

11 hours ago, joel15cat said:

They fixed the animal spawns but not the free mode events spawn. In a private I don't have problems to find events or legendary animals. I think I got 3 every 48 real minutes.

So forget to find legendary animals on populated lobbys.

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[Nerfgoth]

8 hours ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

The only thing preventing me from b*tching too much about the ridiculous  Legendary Animal free roam spawns is the silver lining that I think all of the garment sets look, to put it mildly, f*cking awful.

 

Almost anything would have been preferable to having the exact same coat with each LA's head as the "hood".

 

The Trapper clothing from SP being recycled would have been fine. Each LA making different items of clothing (unique to Online) so we could have made full outfits from Gus would have been great. But what we have now, nah, even if the spawns were better I'd still only put any real time into hunting a LA if there was a bonus attached that week that I was interested in.

 

Speaking of the spawns, I've got to agree with everything @Jason has said. If they are working as intended, it's got R*s lack of foresight written all over it. It's just not fun and it has all the hallmarks of something that is designed to be a huge time sink.

I like the ram ones! But they had 7 month to make 42 variants without just changing the head. And why not use more of the animal on the coat? Got the Teca coat and it looks meh!

 

5 hours ago, StandardDonkey said:

I also got the Teca. First try. On the island by the skeleton in the boat. About 6 a.m., no fog. Unfortunately the gator hood is attached to a f*cking winter coat that you can't even wear in that area without heat stroking.

I had hopes that the alligator ones was going to be suitable for hot weather!

[Nerfgoth]

Anyone who did the daily for Foreman noticed that the pay was double? Instead of getting 0.32 I got 0.64!

[Commander S]

Between legendary animals not spawning, and people simply not being able to stay connected, how many people are realistically going to unlock all the limited-time stuff by the 10th?

[AdamNortonUK]

I’m level 18 currently and was finishing off yesterday’s dailies before the reset looking for some Collared Peccaries in New Austin and the Legendary Cougar spawned in close the N of New Austin, 2 normal Cougars spawned in the same area, got the Legendary, killed it after taking the sample after I revived it, but forgot about the other 2 cougars I had sedated near and got pounced on and killed, when I came back another Legendary Cougar spawned but it was basically next to me so it mauled me before I had the chance to get a weapon out but had disappeared by the time I spawned back in.

 

So I don’t think there is an issue with the spawns after hitting Level 15 naturalist, or it was hot fixed. 

[HipHopHead]

"Hunters who take down the Teca Gator will receive a special colorway of the O’Quinn Hat, and taking down the Sun Gator gets a special colorway of the Helsby Gloves."

 

Take down as in kill or sedate (or either?)

 

[Jason]

2 hours ago, AdamNortonUK said:

So I don’t think there is an issue with the spawns after hitting Level 15 naturalist, or it was hot fixed. 

Nope. Whatever it is, it's not fixed. There's been some level 15+ players that have got a spawn but from what I've read and experienced, those are a minority.

 

It seems level 15+ lowers your chance as well as being in a session with multiple active LA hunters. There's a RDO community that tested level 15+ players riding solo and getting zero spawns, then riding with a level <15 player and getting spawns. The same community is also the one that through testing suspect that there's a session wide cooldown on LA spawns, meaning if someone gets a LA to spawn, you're f*cked for like half an hour.

 

They are either completely broken, poorly designed, or both. Eitherway, as someone who's been specifically hunting for the new gators (and a few other legendary animals) for two days and doing everything Rockstar them selves recommend, I've not seen a single spawn. I've given up, it's just not fun.

[AdamNortonUK]

10 minutes ago, Jason said:

Nope. Whatever it is, it's not fixed. There's been some level 15+ players that have got a spawn but from what I've read and experienced, those are a minority.

 

It seems level 15+ lowers your chance as well as being in a session with multiple active LA hunters. There's a RDO community that tested level 15+ players riding solo and getting zero spawns, then riding with a level <15 player and getting spawns. The same community is also the one that through testing suspect that there's a session wide cooldown on LA spawns, meaning if someone gets a LA to spawn, you're f*cked for like half an hour.

 

They are either completely broken, poorly designed, or both. Eitherway, as someone who's been specifically hunting for the new gators (and a few other legendary animals) for two days and doing everything Rockstar them selves recommend, I've not seen a single spawn. I've given up, it's just not fun.

I'm guessing it was just luck, since I've not had a Legendary Animal spawn in free roam just riding around but that was when I was Level 1 Naturalist, I just think that whatever is preventing these spawns is also related to the locked away drip feed content, so I don't hold out hope for a proper fix until the last LA is released from the drip feed, that's my assumption anyway. 

[Leftover Pizza]

2 hours ago, AdamNortonUK said:

I’m level 18 currently and was finishing off yesterday’s dailies before the reset looking for some Collared Peccaries in New Austin and the Legendary Cougar spawned in close the N of New Austin, 2 normal Cougars spawned in the same area, got the Legendary, killed it after taking the sample after I revived it, but forgot about the other 2 cougars I had sedated near and got pounced on and killed, when I came back another Legendary Cougar spawned but it was basically next to me so it mauled me before I had the chance to get a weapon out but had disappeared by the time I spawned back in.

 

So I don’t think there is an issue with the spawns after hitting Level 15 naturalist, or it was hot fixed. 

 

You probably had a low rank Naturalist near you. He/she triggered the spawn. Not you.

[I_DID_NAAHT]

10 hours ago, Nerfgoth said:

Anyone who did the daily for Foreman noticed that the pay was double? Instead of getting 0.32 I got 0.64!

I have read in some places (and even see a video) that claim it will be the new norm. It is a little frightening because if they are bumping up how much we get paid for Stranger missions and dailies, gold will likely be what all of the best stuff costs from here on out and it will all be overpriced.

[Shotgun-Pauley]

54 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

 

You probably had a low rank Naturalist near you. He/she triggered the spawn. Not you.

so what u are saying is rank 20 is bug , we cant get spawns but a low level can if he around us as if thats the case both of my accounts are now rank 20 but i can make a extra account to force spawn the legendary for my rank 20 , so i get a low level to spawn ?