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djb204

Legendary Animal Spawn-Rates Are Perfect.

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TagoKG
1 minute ago, Jason said:

Yea I've been talking to people sub level 15 and they seem to be getting them at reasonable rates in free roam, where as level 15+ players are not getting them at all, literally.

i can confirm ,no more legendary animals after level 15...

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Lonely-Martin
4 minutes ago, djb204 said:

That might be the issue. They are not intended to be pursued. Players spending all their time trying to obtain a certain legendary animal is missing the point of their rarity design. They aren’t supposed to be triggered manually but randomly and almost accidentally. Aside from the garments being a cosmetic item, one does not truly miss out on anything though. It has no perk what so ever. I hardly see it as tactic to sell gold bars. If that was the case Rockstar would have done better than that IMO.

The game's just getting started, lol. Look where GTA:O got to to know how tacky it can get regarding R*/T2's tactics to encourage recurring spending. Besides, their entire M.O. is to target gold/card sales over all else to be fair. This online was created purely to drive recurring spending.

 

And though you say they aren't supposed to be triggered manually, everything in game has spawn points and spawn triggers to allow things to pop up, it may take time but eventually folk will figure out any conditions that need to be met, or if they are broken, R* should hopefully fix them too.

 

But I do disagree that players seeking an outfit or whatnot are missing the point. If they've seen something in the trailers or images promoting the DLC that they've set their sights on as something they'd love to enhance their character, it should be obtainable within reason otherwise if too often people learn that the advertised content is unreliable, it can burn bridges and see folk not even try playing next DLC and sales of gold are at risk of dropping.

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Jason
2 minutes ago, TagoKG said:

i can confirm ,no more legendary animals after level 15...

Yep, me neither.

 

What's the old saying, there's no smoke without fire? All signs point to them being broken at level 15+ lol.

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DuduLima
53 minutes ago, djb204 said:

I think the parameters are intended to be unclear. I don’t believe Rockstar wants us to know how exactly they spawn. I think they want them to feel random and rare, and that’s just it.

Everything in RDR-RDO have a pattern, even after those changes to nerf and randomize the Madam Nazar's collector items as far they can get ... it actually got random after all this time in this update ... but ... they have a x spawn/x possibility per type in x place, so it is not really "random".

 

Saw people complaining about the inconsistent spawns of standard animals .... they aren't a concerning thing for me right now... since this update i saw how some of the old standard animal spawns were changed and how they are actually working is why i'm trying to understand the legendary animals conditions.

 

The standard spawns for 95% of the animals from what i saw when playing are working properly right now, so i ... we have reasons to know what they changed.

The fact we can go full pvp when hunting legendary animals ..... is somewat okay, i'm fine with that ... i saw the same thing with the old tall trees and bearclaw camp spawns of cougars and bears, so this is old news, but in a whole new level.

 

However ... we need to know the possibility/overall rate/conditions of these spawns, because right now .... this is a very inconsistent and problematic thing, they being rare i can't care enough.

 

Also the time is running, the disconnects are a thing and some animals looks are dripfeed.

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djb204

Collector items were very lucrative prior to the last update. The online collector map made players very wealthy in-game. It’s still lucrative but not as effective anymore due to the randomness of the spawning now. So maybe.....

 

....Rockstar made legendary animals so rare and difficult to trigger spawns  in an effort to prevent players from figuring out how they work? Because let’s face it, if the community knew how they spawned, it wouldn’t be long before farming methods are developed.

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Kirsty

Just posting for the "research" and to compare to later on. I've just turned Level 10 now but only done one mission because I've been sample-hoarding.

 

Had three completely random in free roam though so far, Katata Elk, Tatanka Bison, and Cogi Boar, all times it just said "a legendary animal is nearby" suddenly and I could chase the "?" A fourth one, the Zizi Beaver, was completely random as well but not for me, my posse member had the "?" prompt but I didn't see anything, but I was able to take the sample after it was sedated. 

 

 

 

 

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Jason
13 minutes ago, djb204 said:

Collector items were very lucrative prior to the last update. The online collector map made players very wealthy in-game. It’s still lucrative but not as effective anymore due to the randomness of the spawning now. So maybe.....

 

....Rockstar made legendary animals so rare and difficult to trigger spawns  in an effort to prevent players from figuring out how they work? Because let’s face it, if the community knew how they spawned, it wouldn’t be long before farming methods are developed.

Collector was the best money in the game without the map before the metal detector nerf. Today it's still god tier money, the random spawns are only for dig site/metal detector stuff, you can still reliably complete card sets every day.

 

And even then, there are still 100+ collectibles on the map that spawn every single day, they are there to get, there's no RNG to that. Legendary animal spawns for Naturalist level 15+ players are literally non-existent.

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Officer Friendly

Are you able to remove the hood from the legendary animal coats? Also, is it me or all of the coats just a re-skin with slight color variation? Aside from the different hoods.

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DuduLima
14 minutes ago, Officer Friendly said:

Are you able to remove the hood from the legendary animal coats? Also, is it me or all of the coats just a re-skin with slight color variation? Aside from the different hoods.

Yes, in your wardrobe there's a option to lower down, you can also use a hat.

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aaron2997
8 hours ago, Kirsty said:

Just posting for the "research" and to compare to later on. I've just turned Level 10 now but only done one mission because I've been sample-hoarding.

 

Had three completely random in free roam though so far, Katata Elk, Tatanka Bison, and Cogi Boar, all times it just said "a legendary animal is nearby" suddenly and I could chase the "?" A fourth one, the Zizi Beaver, was completely random as well but not for me, my posse member had the "?" prompt but I didn't see anything, but I was able to take the sample after it was sedated. 

I think this is some solid proof that the spawn rates break after getting the skill to encounter them more. From a backend perspective, it sounds similar to Civilization's nuclear Ghandi, where declaring peace with him brings the aggression to a negative integer but the game whacks out and sets him to the highest possible aggression.

 

It's the reverse here where once we get that skill at level 15, some rating shoots way up and gives us a high number way past some limit in the code that it just kinda wraps all the way around to the lowest possible rating. 

 

Noted I'm not too savvy with coding and game design, but from what I've read and experienced in game, this is what it sounds like to me.

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Ring Dang Do

It’s not really rare or unique when it’s all the same jacket. Would love for these headpieces to be seperate from the jackets. 

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BUT THE BENZ
On 8/2/2020 at 12:48 AM, djb204 said:

Like why wear what everyone else is wearing? LOL

yeah, that's why I wear the hunter jacket in RED. nobody else seemingly does. gives me that michael jackson/thriller style. I love it!

GLITTER GLOVES would be perfect btw, can Gus make glitter gloves out of some fish or whatever?! if not, this man is a failure!

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Viewbob
On 8/2/2020 at 3:45 AM, DuduLima said:

Yes, in your wardrobe there's a option to lower down, you can also use a hat.

i think he meant he wants to use the hood without the coat

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