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djb204

Legendary Animal Spawn-Rates Are Perfect.

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djb204

The Rare Spawn-Rate Of Legendary Animals Is A Good Thing.

 

I really appreciate the fact that these free roam legendary animals have a VERY LOW CHANCE to spawn. Some of these legendary garments SHOULD be extremely rare with an awe factor tied to them. They wouldn’t be anything impressive or anything to brag about if EVERYONE had them right, but I see a lot of YouTubers complaining about them being broken because they spent a long time aiming for them with zero luck. That is how it SHOULD BE.

 

These SUPER RARE items are important to the game. I don’t have all of the legendary garments and I’m fine with that, which is how it should be. If they were so easy to get, and everyone could easily get them, I wouldn’t even want them personally. Like why wear what everyone else is wearing? LOL

 

Unique items were non-existent in RDO until these super rare legendary animals were added, and I hope Rockstar doesn’t cater to those complaining about how rare they are and spoil a good thing. They are supposed to be legendary animals and sightings of them are supposed to be few and far between, otherwise they wouldn’t be anything special.

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Viewbob

yeah but they arent extremely rare, they are literally non existent 

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Lonely-Martin

I don't mind rare spawning or harder to find/tackle animals and all that jazz, but the clothing/unlocks don't have any awe factor for me. I have my look and enjoy that of course, but I'm not one to get jealous of another's nor look to flex anything I may have put a bit more effort or waiting around/lobby hopping to get.

 

If I see something I want and it's in the game, I'll get it. I'm far too old for all that must have what another does pap, lol. :)

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Zapper

I found a Legendary Wolf in free roam and some f*ckwit had to come create disturbance in the surroundings thereby stopping the animal from spawning.

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24 minutes ago, Viewbob said:

yeah but they arent extremely rare, they are literally non existent 

LOL they are there. They just have a very low chance of spawning. Not to mention the time of day, and the weather also determines whether they spawn. 

13 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

I don't mind rare spawning or harder to find/tackle animals and all that jazz, but the clothing/unlocks don't have any awe factor for me. I have my look and enjoy that of course, but I'm not one to get jealous of another's nor look to flex anything I may have put a bit more effort or waiting around/lobby hopping to get.

 

If I see something I want and it's in the game, I'll get it. I'm far too old for all that must have what another does pap, lol. :)

Exactly, but there are those that MUST have everything, and will rant about things being too rare for their liking.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, djb204 said:

LOL they are there. They just have a very low chance of spawning. Not to mention the time of day, and the weather also determines whether they spawn. 

i found the boar and beaver during normal weather around 15:00-17:00 and lost both of them, ive never seen a single free roam legendary since and ive been to all the spots multiple times

 

plus im not even really that interested in them and probably so are other people, the hoods look nice but they come with horrible looking coats 

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7 minutes ago, Zapper said:

I found a Legendary Wolf in free roam and some f*ckwit had to come create disturbance in the surroundings thereby stopping the animal from spawning.

That sucks. It happened to me too lol. I came across a legendary beaver spawn location. I was very cautious trying to locate it, maybe a little too cautious lol. Another player entered the vicinity and ended up killing it and riding off with it lol . 

1 minute ago, Viewbob said:

i found the boar and beaver during normal weather around 15:00-17:00 and lost both of them, ive never seen a single free roam legendary since and ive been to all the spots multiple times

 

plus im not even really that interested in them and probably so are other people, the hoods look nice but they come with horrible looking coats 

I agree the coats could be better too. Maybe the hoods should have been its own piece that fit over any coat or even shirtless.

 

I’ve also only come across 2 legendary animals in free roam. The beaver (which another player ended up getting instead of me lol) and a bison up in the mountains. I was able to sedate and sample that. Nothing again. 

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Jason

The entire argument falls apart for two reasons:

 

1) They are so rare that many people who have been playing daily for extended periods and have the INCREASED CHANCE upgrade for them to spawn haven't seen one spawn. Not one. Not having one spawn in 10-20+ hours of gameplay isn't rare, it's stupid or broken. 20 hours or more to unlock one piece of clothing isn't interesting, rarity being a good thing only goes so far.

 

2) Legendary missions exist and while some missions are rarer than others, they allow you to do document, sedate or skin the animals to get the full rewards and are consistently farmable.

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5 minutes ago, djb204 said:

That sucks. It happened to me too lol. I came across a legendary beaver spawn location. I was very cautious trying to locate it, maybe a little too cautious lol. Another player entered the vicinity and ended up killing it and riding off with it lol . 

I agree the coats could be better too. Maybe the hoods should have been its own piece that fit over any coat or even shirtless.

 

I’ve also only come across 2 legendary animals in free roam. The beaver (which another player ended up getting instead of me lol) and a bison up in the mountains. I was able to sedate and sample that. Nothing again. 

they were also during the same day and it was about 30 minutes after the update dropped, they are definitely not supposed to be this rare, especially considering how the pheromones literally do nothing too

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

The entire argument falls apart for two reasons:

 

1) They are so rare that many people who have been playing daily for extended periods and have the INCREASED CHANCE upgrade for them to spawn haven't seen one spawn. Not one. Not having one spawn in 10-20+ hours of gameplay isn't rare, it's stupid or broken. 20 hours or more to unlock one piece of clothing isn't interesting, rarity being a good thing only goes so far.

 

2) Legendary missions exist and while some missions are rarer than others, they allow you to do document, sedate or skin the animals to get the full rewards and are consistently farmable.

some of the animals can only be found in free roam too

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

The entire argument falls apart for two reasons:

 

1) They are so rare that many people who have been playing daily for extended periods and have the INCREASED CHANCE upgrade for them to spawn haven't seen one spawn. Not one. Not having one spawn in 10-20+ hours of gameplay isn't rare, it's stupid or broken. 20 hours or more to unlock one piece of clothing isn't interesting, rarity being a good thing only goes so far.

 

2) Legendary missions exist and while some missions are rarer than others, they allow you to do document, sedate or skin the animals to get the full rewards and are consistently farmable.

That’s the problem. These legendary animals aren’t intended to be pursued. They are supposed to be chance encounters that happened when players are off doing other things. It’s only been out for less then a week. Maybe they are designed to be spawnable a couple times a week for any player? Don’t go look for them lol. Do something else, maybe after a week the spawn-rate resets again?

 

its like looking for Bigfoot lol. You can spend forever trying to find Bigfoot. The ones who don’t intend of having a sighting are the ones who encounter it lol 

6 minutes ago, Viewbob said:

they were also during the same day and it was about 30 minutes after the update dropped, im pretty sure they arent intended to be like this

Maybe each player is granted a certain amount of spawns per-week or something like that? Maybe we just haven’t fulfilled our cycle? All I know is they aren’t supposed to be pursued. Going out looking for them is a waste of time apparently. From what I hear, they can appear when you don’t expect them too. I spent 3 to 4 months trying to get the camp with the poppy moonshine recipe to spawn lol.

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5 minutes ago, djb204 said:

That’s the problem. These legendary animals aren’t intended to be pursued. They are supposed to be chance encounters that happened when players are off doing other things. It’s only been out for less then a week. Maybe they are designed to be spawnable a couple times a week for any player? Don’t go look for them lol. Do something else, maybe after a week the spawn-rate resets again?

 

its like looking for Bigfoot lol. You can spend forever trying to find Bigfoot. The ones who don’t intend of having a sighting are the ones who encounter it lol 

Maybe each player is granted a certain amount of spawns per-week or something like that? Maybe we just haven’t fulfilled our cycle? All I know is they aren’t supposed to be pursued. Going out looking for them is a waste of time apparently. From what I hear, they can appear when you don’t expect them too. I spent 3 to 4 months trying to get the camp with the poppy moonshine recipe to spawn lol.

no i dont think so, if that was true im pretty sure rockstar wouldve mentioned that

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Shadowfennekin

Ah yes, let's PRAISE a developer for such sh*tty spawn rates.

I only came across the legendary swine outside of a mission cause it spawns not far off from my Moonshine Shack. Everything else is literally non-existant! #ClownstarGames

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1 minute ago, Viewbob said:

no i dont think so, if that was true im pretty sure rockstar wouldve mentioned that

Perhaps. Regardless, I don’t think it’s broken. I believe they are intended to be extremely rare. I believe Rockstar made it very difficult for players to obtain all legendary animals by now. I mean it’s only been out a week and players are lighting their torches and grabbing their pitch forks ready to lynch Rockstar for adding something extremely rare to the game lol 

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3 minutes ago, Viewbob said:

some of the animals can only be found in free roam too

Are you sure of this? I was under the impression they all had legendary missions so they can do the full intro. Or do the variants not have missions?

 

Even if this is true it doesn't help the case either, to be honest. We have to hope for a spawn and pray to the RNG gods that it's the one we're missing. RNG on RNG isn't fun game design.

 

Just now, djb204 said:

That’s the problem. These legendary animals aren’t intended to be pursued. They are supposed to be chance encounters that happened when players are off doing other things. It’s only been out for less then a week. Maybe they are designed to be spawnable a couple times a week for any player? Don’t go look for them lol. Do something else, maybe after a week the spawn-rate resets again?

 

its like looking for Bigfoot lol. You can spend forever trying to find Bigfoot. The ones who don’t intend of having a sighting are the ones who encounter it lol 

It's not like looking for Bigfoot, legendary animals are the main end-goal of the entire update, we're meant to hunt them or gather samples to unlock new clothing or complete the legendary sets for missions, they are also going to be adding new animals every week as they are the centrepiece of the entire update. In the past two days I haven't even been straight up looking for them and just that, I was gathering collectibles to level up my pass, so I wasn't randomly roaming the map for legendary animals but regardless the idea that we shouldn't look for them when they are the main part of the entire role is ridiculous. Finding one or two legendary animals a week - again, the MAIN PART OF THIS ROLE - would be like Rockstar picking two collectible sets and putting them on the map for the entire week without respawns with no other collectibles on the map, period.

 

By your logic, this would literally mean that Rockstar's goal is to get you to play the game for one day a week and then... do something else, because that is what the game design would encourage.

 

They are either broken or need a big buff, pure and simple.

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1 minute ago, Shadowfennekin said:

Ah yes, let's PRAISE a developer for such sh*tty spawn rates.

I only came across the legendary swine outside of a mission cause it spawns not far off from my Moonshine Shack. Everything else is literally non-existant! #ClownstarGames

Maybe Rockstar should make it so they spawn everyday, or even multiple times per day? He’ll just gift all the players the garments lol. Like why have rare items at all right?

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DuduLima

Literally, the rate spawn and conditions are confusing.

 

One of the Legendary Cougars spawned South of Gaptooth Breach's Mine after a Condor Egg event at night, literally 7-10 players spawning at the same time, hell man it was like a battle royale, someone killed the Cougar and the fight got worse, had to get away from that place since the game became a literal hell, people pissed because someone killed the cougar, people getting free kills, people killing other people for the body of the cougar.

 

Managed to get the Beaver to spawn twice, the first time a player managed to kill him first and fled to Gus and the second time i managed to put him down, but a disconnect hitted me like a truck.

 

The spawns somewat looks fine (by now), yet the fact we don't have clues about the conditions or rates and x time for a spawn, still concerns me, so i'm hoping to see the internal codes or a proper animal map with conditions to clarify things and to use these conditions for our advantage.

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4 minutes ago, Jason said:

Are you sure of this? I was under the impression they all had legendary missions so they can do the full intro. Or do the variants not have missions?

 

Even if this is true it doesn't help the case either, to be honest. We have to hope for a spawn and pray to the RNG gods that it's the one we're missing. RNG on RNG isn't fun game design.

 

It's not like looking for Bigfoot, legendary animals are the main end-goal of the entire update, we're meant to hunt them or gather samples to unlock new clothing or complete the legendary sets for missions, they are also going to be adding new animals every week as they are the centrepiece of the entire update. In the past two days I haven't even been straight up looking for them and just that, I was gathering collectibles to level up my pass, so I wasn't randomly roaming the map for legendary animals but regardless the idea that we shouldn't look for them when they are the main part of the entire role is ridiculous. Finding one or two legendary animals a week - again, the MAIN PART OF THIS ROLE - would be like Rockstar picking two collectible sets and putting them on the map for the entire week without respawns with no other collectibles on the map, period.

 

By your logic, this would literally mean that Rockstar's goal is to get you to play the game for one day a week and then... do something else, because that is what the game design would encourage.

 

They are either broken or need a big buff, pure and simple.

LOL they are NOT the main part of this role. They are an extra. That’s like saying the poppy moonshine recipe is the main part of the moonshine role. I’ve reached level 20 in both the moonshine and naturalist roles without the recipe or all legendaries.

 

They are legendary animals. They are intended to be rare. This is known. They haven’t been out a week yet, it’s only been 5 days and people are up in arms because the rares aren’t spawning for them lol. They haven’t spawned for me either, I’m fine with it. It’s a good thing. Like what’s the rush? It will happen when it happens. It’s not like a new role is dropping every week lol.

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15 minutes ago, Jason said:

Are you sure of this? I was under the impression they all had legendary missions so they can do the full intro. Or do the variants not have missions?

 

Even if this is true it doesn't help the case either, to be honest. We have to hope for a spawn and pray to the RNG gods that it's the one we're missing. RNG on RNG isn't fun game design.

 

It's not like looking for Bigfoot, legendary animals are the main end-goal of the entire update, we're meant to hunt them or gather samples to unlock new clothing or complete the legendary sets for missions, they are also going to be adding new animals every week as they are the centrepiece of the entire update. In the past two days I haven't even been straight up looking for them and just that, I was gathering collectibles to level up my pass, so I wasn't randomly roaming the map for legendary animals but regardless the idea that we shouldn't look for them when they are the main part of the entire role is ridiculous. Finding one or two legendary animals a week - again, the MAIN PART OF THIS ROLE - would be like Rockstar picking two collectible sets and putting them on the map for the entire week without respawns with no other collectibles on the map, period.

 

By your logic, this would literally mean that Rockstar's goal is to get you to play the game for one day a week and then... do something else, because that is what the game design would encourage.

 

They are either broken or need a big buff, pure and simple.

yep definitely sure, ive only gotten a select few but none of the rest

3 minutes ago, djb204 said:

LOL they are NOT the main part of this role. They are an extra. That’s like saying the poppy moonshine recipe is the main part of the moonshine role. I’ve reached level 20 in both the moonshine and naturalist roles without the recipe or all legendaries.

 

They are legendary animals. They are intended to be rare. This is known. They haven’t been out a week yet, it’s only been 5 days and people are up in arms because the rares aren’t spawning for them lol. They haven’t spawned for me either, I’m fine with it. It’s a good thing. Like what’s the rush? It will happen when it happens. It’s not like a new role is dropping every week lol.

also what? they are absolutely the main part of this role, what would you say is the main part of the role then?

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9 minutes ago, djb204 said:

Exactly, but there are those that MUST have everything, and will rant about things being too rare for their liking.

To be honest, I was a bit like that with GTA:O until the arena unlock system proved near impossible, lol. I enjoy the excess syle I took by collecting all the freebies and time locked stuff along the way and also buying all the content like clothes etc in GTA, but I was/am playing it anyway so most all came naturally really too. (And the arena unlocks would come natural too if I committed the time to do so, which isn't happening for obvious readons, lol).

 

Although that game was unique for me in that regard as usually it's just the trophies I seek on games to have that completed feel. I do like those shiny platinum trophies

 

In RDR I much more prefer to only have what I like or limit the excess stuff as I enjoy playing this as a real pauper, lol.

 

But yeah, never really had that FOMO issue some have with games and in time I'm sure people will figure out reliable spawning methods and then they'll be easier to collect for those keen and that wouldn't bother me either, or fixed if there is a problem like we're reading here too. Though I can enjoy rarer missions popping up or change encounters, I'm not against those wanting to just unlock everything and feel if they were easier to get, it wouldn't add or take much to/away from the game.

 

I do think it is a bit silly if anyone does relish having something in game that others can't get and feel they are better for it or anything like that though.

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1 minute ago, Viewbob said:

yep definitely sure, ive only gotten a select few but none of the rest

You guys realize Rockstar intended for these to be rare right? It’s only been 5 days and I get the feeling you guys wanted to have collected them ALL by now.

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Just now, djb204 said:

You guys realize Rockstar intended for these to be rare right? It’s only been 5 days and I get the feeling you guys wanted to have collected them ALL by now.

you misread 

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HipHopHead

I was randomly riding around and heard the sound of another player sedating an animal.  Ran up to it and it was a Legendary Beaver.  We both sampled it and I went on our way.  Easiest Legendary Animal ever. 

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2 minutes ago, djb204 said:

You guys realize Rockstar intended for these to be rare right? It’s only been 5 days and I get the feeling you guys wanted to have collected them ALL by now.

But given this game has been plagued by inconsistent animal spawning since pretty much the start, and there's no clarification on parameters for these animals, it's very easy to understand why players aren't sure and want to know more, surely?

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13 minutes ago, djb204 said:

LOL they are NOT the main part of this role. They are an extra. That’s like saying the poppy moonshine recipe is the main part of the moonshine role.

I'm sorry, did we not watch the same launch trailer which featured multiple legendary animals? Did we not see the same launch day page with a whole section to legendary animals? Did we not see how there are a whole bunch of one time missions for legendary animals with a cutscene intro? Did we not see the multiple tweets from Rockstar talking about legendary animals? Did we not see how leveling up the role unlocks stuff directly related to legendary animals? Did we not see how Rockstar are going to dripfeed legendary animals?

 

Because if we both did see that, then the only reason we would both not agree that they are the main part of the role would be because you're a sausage.

 

For the record, the Poppy Moonshine recipe received none of that.

 

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Nobody should forget how easy it is for other players to ride in an ruin your chance encounter with these animals, they need to take that into consideration when they offer up such ultra "rare" animals. What would have been better would have been actual private server missions like the Bounty legendaries. I could only imagine how much of a 💩 show those would have been if we were forced to hunt them in a full server as well.

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32 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

To be honest, I was a bit like that with GTA:O until the arena unlock system proved near impossible, lol. I enjoy the excess syle I took by collecting all the freebies and time locked stuff along the way and also buying all the content like clothes etc in GTA, but I was/am playing it anyway so most all came naturally really too. (And the arena unlocks would come natural too if I committed the time to do so, which isn't happening for obvious readons, lol).

 

Although that game was unique for me in that regard as usually it's just the trophies I seek on games to have that completed feel. I do like those shiny platinum trophies

 

In RDR I much more prefer to only have what I like or limit the excess stuff as I enjoy playing this as a real pauper, lol.

 

But yeah, never really had that FOMO issue some have with games and in time I'm sure people will figure out reliable spawning methods and then they'll be easier to collect for those keen and that wouldn't bother me either, or fixed if there is a problem like we're reading here too. Though I can enjoy rarer missions popping up or change encounters, I'm not against those wanting to just unlock everything and feel if they were easier to get, it wouldn't add or take much to/away from the game.

 

I do think it is a bit silly if anyone does relish having something in game that others can't get and feel they are better for it or anything like that though.

I understand completely, but it’s not about feeling superior because you were lucky enough to obtain something rare. I don’t have anything aside from the missions lol. I believe it’s a good thing for some items in the game to be very rare, and not for those to feel superior or anything, it’s for the game itself. Allow Legendary animals to actually be something legendary or rare. If the legendary animals were predictable, and everyone knew how to get them to spawn and everyone had a handful of them under their belt, it would just feels like a missed opportunity by Rockstar. If Rockstar changes it so that they spawn more often and more frequently, it would remove something unique from the game that it never had before (rare items). These rare items add to the game, the community, and it’s experience, but some players only have their own accomplishments in mind.

 

Personally, I like knowing that every time Iaunch the game I know there are rare animals out there. It’s possible but I might not see them, but when/if I do it will probably be an experience. 

27 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

But given this game has been plagued by inconsistent animal spawning since pretty much the start, and there's no clarification on parameters for these animals, it's very easy to understand why players aren't sure and want to know more, surely?

I think the parameters are intended to be unclear. I don’t believe Rockstar wants us to know how exactly they spawn. I think they want them to feel random and rare, and that’s just it.

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2 minutes ago, djb204 said:

I understand completely, but it’s not about feeling superior because you were lucky enough to obtain something rare. I don’t have anything aside from the missions lol. I believe it’s a good thing for some items in the game to be very rare, and not for those to feel superior or anything, it’s for the game itself. Allow Legendary animals to actually be something legendary or rare. If the legendary animals were predictable, and everyone knew how to get them to spawn and everyone had a handful of them under their belt, it wold just feels like a missed opportunity. If Rockstar changes it so that they spawn more often and more frequently, it would remove something from the game that it never had before (rare items). These things add to the game, the community, and it’s experience, but I some players only have their own accomplishments in mind.

 

Personally, I like the knowing that every time Iaunch the game I know there are rare animals out there. It’s possible but I might not see them, but when/if I do it will probably be an experience. 

There's already rare time limited content though, and season pass content not all have too. IMHO these animals being easier to find really wouldn't take anything away from the game for players and I feel all this FOMO crap only helps drive players to play less for fun as they end up wasting time hanging about or switching lobbies to get something they may want to add to their character out there.

 

It's all a tactic to sell gold and make the game a grind if anything. If a player wastes hours seeking something they wanted, it may waste so much of their free time that they then may seek to buy gold to counter the fact they aren't earning any elsewhere so they can unlock the game pass or buy a time limited item with gold because they've used their gaming time up looking for something that is rare or outright broken.

 

And though it may not for you, many do feel superior knowing they have stuff others can't have, that fear of missing out grows because of it.

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8 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

There's already rare time limited content though, and season pass content not all have too. IMHO these animals being easier to find really wouldn't take anything away from the game for players and I feel all this FOMO crap only helps drive players to play less for fun as they end up wasting time hanging about or switching lobbies to get something they may want to add to their character out there.

 

It's all a tactic to sell gold and make the game a grind if anything. If a player wastes hours seeking something they wanted, it may waste so much of their free time that they then may seek to buy gold to counter the fact they aren't earning any elsewhere so they can unlock the game pass or buy a time limited item with gold because they've used their gaming time up looking for something that is rare or outright broken.

 

And though it may not for you, many do feel superior knowing they have stuff others can't have, that fear of missing out grows because of it.

That might be the issue. They are not intended to be pursued. Players spending all their time trying to obtain a certain legendary animal is missing the point of their rarity design. They aren’t supposed to be triggered manually but randomly and almost accidentally. Aside from the garments being a cosmetic item, one does not truly miss out on anything though. It has no perk what so ever. I hardly see it as tactic to sell gold bars. If that was the case Rockstar would have done better than that IMO.

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Wheat

The problem isn’t the rarity. It’s the fact that once you hit rank 15 and get the skill to improve your chance of spotting a legendary animal, that is has the opposite effect. It is literally making it impossible for you to spot one. 

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Jason
4 minutes ago, Wheat said:

The problem isn’t the rarity. It’s the fact that once you hit rank 15 and get the skill to improve your chance of spotting a legendary animal, that is has the opposite effect. It is literally making it impossible for you to spot one. 

Yea I've been talking to people sub level 15 and they seem to be getting them at reasonable rates in free roam, where as level 15+ players are not getting them at all, literally.

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