IanLaudan Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) Bored at work : Call it RAW not only cause its a rough draft of what Game should be and would need a lot of Tuning and Tweaking , but cause it would really be RAW….so punitive and restrictive, big decisions, high risk, high rewards etcetc Main Premise = World is 350 Players deep, 50 x 7 Posse, i played games running by Indie Companies and we were 100+ Players on Server, I bet R* with their Billions could land and make this happen Counted 100 Houses, Shacks and Shanties ( entered or tried to ), without those around Towns and inside them which can be used by players and fittingly remastered by R* plus Hotel Rooms in each Town. EndGame is gaining Prestige which is measured in bought things Endgame : Invite to high-stake Poker at Grand Korrigan, for which you need to buy house in St.Denis, 7 residences available NOW 2 Min = 1 Hour 48 Min = 1 Day 1 Day = 1 Month 12 Days = 1 Year 10 Years Period is Played, 1890-1900, 4 Months Real Time, Residences in St.Denis hit Market on 108 Day ( out of 120 ) CALCULATION FOR ENDGAME MONEY : Bit higher rewards for roles that are serving »the good« In 114 Months ( Out of 120 ) each individual player / Posse / Gang should be able to earn the following : HUNTER 18.925$ ( similar expenses as Ranch Hand cause self-providing as main interest) BOUNTY HUNTER 45.000$..............4.100$ in hand TREASURE HUNTER 43.000$..............2.100$ in hand HORSE TAMER 43.000$..............2.100$ in hand MOONSHINER 45.000$..............4.100$ in hand OUTLAW ??? While Fixed Wages are there, rest will be economically tuned to fit those FIXED WAGES ROLES RIDING SHOTGUN 380$ / Monthly = 43.650$ / Month = St.Denis ( 6 Months = 6 Days RL ) 30.900$ basic survival needs 9$ / Day 10.000$ St.Denis Residence + Shop Money in hand 2.750$ Day basic expenses : FOOD = 6$ LODGING = 1$ HORSE FOOD = 2$ RANCH HAND 165$ / Month = 18.925$ / Month = St.Denis ( 6 Months = 6 Days RL ) 6.850$ basic survival needs 2$ / Day 10.000$ St.Denis Residence + Shop Money in hand 2.075$ Day basic expenses : FOOD = FREE LODGING = FREE HORSE FOOD = 2$ While all the prices in ONLINE are Tripled according to RL 1890 Prices, so the Wages go up x 3, Riding Shotgun had Monthly of 125$, all other awards are based on that to reach Sum for the EndGame Win BOUNTY HUNTERS Legendary + 6 Gang + 4 Gang info from Lady, announced in Newspaper 2 +1 still on board LODGING : Cabines and Shacks HORSE TAMERS Taming Mustangs and selling them to local buyers at Stables ( Horse Shop ) Lemoyne LODGING : Cabines and Shacks HELPING HAND Fixed Wage Taking jobs at one of big Ranches and escorting cattle to towns New Hanover LODGING : Each Farm with two houses for Helping Hands, free Stew, free Lodging MOONSHINERS Crafting it in cellar of Houses with silent Marcel, no Bar LODGING : Two Houses with cellar in each State, Large House with inhabitants, which will require some skills to beat in gundown Acquire Still, Furnace and Worm Box after getting info from Cribbs Bidding with other Moonshiners to Hotels and Saloons for Distribution, NPC Rivals in Bartholomew and Maggie. HUNTERS Hunting animals, selling to Trapper at the places where Old Man Jones stands now while Legendary outfits from SP and better prices ( Manzanita post ) New Elizabeth Hunter gets additional money for every outfit bought from players if Legendary pelt provided by Hunter is included LODGING : Cabines and Shacks TREASURE HUNTER preferable for solo players Buying Maps from Valdespina and searching for Treasures ( Gold + Money + Item ) Coins and Arrows to Buyer in Nuevo Paraiso Jewelery to Buyer in New Austin LODGING : Hotel or Room in Town RIDING SHOTGUN preferable for solo players Fixed Wage Taking jobs in Towns and escort Coaches and Trains LODGING : Hotel or Room in Town OUTLAW Well….you know LDG : as prefered till you arent discovered, if Gang is down, looses 20% of their Revenues, same if individual Player is tracked and put down by Law of Bounty Hunters, his personal box is depleted by 20% OFF Fast Travel ( travel by existing Trains and Steamer from St.Denis - Blackwater ) Ranks Daily Challenges Special Abilitiy Cards Madame Nazar Tarot Cards Heirlooms Players on radar Dead-eye for shooting Handheld Catalogue NEW Dead-eye for tracking only Antique Bottles = use only Eggs = eat only American Flowers = Moonshine ingridient SAME Horses gameplay Markers for destination on radar, but not for players AMMO Limited to Belt, Satchel, Bandoliere & Saddle Bags Only whatever is accesible in Shop or can be looted from shipments on Train or NPCs Dynamite looted from NPC hideouts or Cargo on Train WEAPONS Gunsmith upgrades only for cosmetics, not for power / damage HARASSMENT If player hogtied or else, button allowing 1 minute max, after countdown he respawns at home, if Player is Bounty target, he re-spawns in Jail, Money is transfered to Bounty Hunter regardless INFORMANTS Each State has all of them, so they are multiplied ????? GETTING INFO FOR HEISTS Trains at Stations Clerk ( while many options to communicate like Telegram or Tic kets Player wont be suspicious which one hes doing ) Getting Regular Jewlery from Guards + Cargo Money Bank NPC Langton is playing Games in Saloons across the Map, If two or more players are at same Game table, bidding for Info, Alias for player at Table ( at betting for Table game additional button for paying GOLD to NPC ) Getting Regular Jewlery from Guards + Cargo Money Coaches NPC Finch is playing Games in Saloons across the Map, If two or more players are at same Game table, bidding for Info, Alias for player at Table ( at betting additional button for paying GOLD to NPC ) Getting Regular Jewlery from Guards + Cargo Money GETTING INFO FOR BOUNTIES NPC Bounty Lady sitting in front of Bounty Board, interact to get info Paying Gold for Legendary and Player Gang ( later for large amount of it ) Getting Regular Jewlery from Guards + Bounty Money GETTING TREASURE MAPS NPC Valdespina drinking in Saloons, you pay them drinks to start conversation. Treasures and Collectibles are unique and not multiplied for all members of Posse. GETTING MOONSHINER INFO NPC Cripps drinking in Saloons, you pay them drinks to start conversation Getting Regular Jewlery from Guards + Yellow Bottles from Leader GETTING NAZAR TREASURE MAPS ( 3 collectibles ) Saving Strangers GOLD Treasures, Saving Strangers JEWLERY + COINS + ARROWS Hideout Leaders + Treasures HIDEOTS & AMBUSHES 4, 6 People Gangs and Legendaries from Bounties spawn in hideouts according to Time given by Informer, Ambushes are performed by random NPCs SETTLEMENTS can be usurped and getting tax money from Habitants after Leader locked prisoner and till Gang is controlling the Settlement LOOT Player losing same as NPCs on them : Jewlery, Bottles, Money, Gold, Limited weight for player so whatever he is carrying on him allows to loot as much items as he has room for, 30 seconds loot timer CARGO ( Satchel + Saddle bags ) Limited to Real Life proportions CRAFTING White Tonics and Baits only WAGONS Must be bought and stationed either Stables or Posse Homestead DOCTOR No reviving, only keeping alive, bringing posse member to doctors ( also illegal ones ), player gets redish screen and decline of actions DAMAGE First Bullet is survivable, second Bullet sends you to »redish screen« and no action anymore, goes one up if player starts with Yellow circle, Yellow bottles for battle but only at start, not after first bullet received, White bottles for use when roaming »Redish player« can be captured or helped by Friendlies to reach doctor. »suicide« after first Bullet received impossible ( jumping from cliff or such means 1 hour respawn aka death by PvP ) ESCAPE button unavailable when in fight interaction ( will need to synchro with HARRASMENT part ) DEATH Sudden respawn if killed by yourself or animal, 10 Minutes if NPC, 1 Hour if PvP FENCE, VETERINAR ( ILLEGAL DOCTOR ) ??? HORSE, COACH & CATTLE FENCE ??? TRADING POSTS Always legendary Gunslinger on Post + batch of US Soldiers , if players would attack LG or Trading Post owner, Legendary Gunslingers with special Weapons as in Story which can be looted, revolvers and BB having a Rare Shotgun. GANG CHEST + PERSONAL BOX Will the whole Gang / Posse made it to St.Denis EndGame, or will they vote for one of them to make it or Individual player will decide to loot money from »ex« friends and go on itself. Containing everything from food, Money, Gold, Jewlery etcetc, while Personal Box is for Money only POSSE HOUSES If Raided, Max of 5000 Posse Chest Money can be taken ( Saddlebags as room for it ) REAL NEEDS Obligated sleeping 9-7-5 Hours dependable of lodging ( 18 min - 14 Min - 10 Min ) Cold / Warm bigger impact on your cores Not eating bigger impact on your cores, 48 Minutes = Day are 3 Meals at least NAMES Premade names and surnames to choose from cause game will be monitored and actiones will be described in Newspaper ST.DENIS PART Will be boring part equal to Epilog in Story. 10.000$ required to buy Residence. Player buys Residence and checks out one of 14 available small Butiques in Town which will represent his Further income. His expenses are 2 Guards + Butler + Maid ( all not interactible ) in Sum of 6$ and Maintenance 4$ per Day and obligated Code dress for Korrigan ( Gambler, Deauville or Dechaux at 800$ ) To maintain those 6 Months ( if he reaches for it right away ) he needs additional 2,600$. Boutique income will be random , where 10 of them would be Deficitial, 2 Maintainable and 2 Profitable, randomly being Players gamble which one he will hit. If Player fails to maintain his Residence, gets back 70% of Money ( 7.000$ ) and is set back on his own with Camp tent only. TOWN »RIOTS« TUMBLEWEED Sheriff & Deputy……...after 2 Minutes ( 1 Hour ) MARSHALLS arrive ARMADILLO Sheriff & Deputy……...after 2 Minutes ( 1 Hour ) MARSHALLS arrive BLACKWATER Police STRAWBERRY Sheriff & Deputy……...after 2 Minutes ( 1 Hour ) MARSHALLS arrive VALENTINE Sheriff & Deputy……...after 2 Minutes ( 1 Hour ) MARSHALLS arrive ANNESBURG Sheriff & Deputy + 30 Mine Guards Lvl 50 VAN HORN All Habitants are triggered RHODES Sheriff & Deputy……...after 2 Minutes ( 1 Hour ) MARSHALLS arrive ST.DENIS Police NPC LAWMEN STRENGHT US Marshals Davies Lvl 100………….…5 x Lvl 100 + 5 x Lvl 90 + 5 x Lvl 80 Pinkertons Milton Lvl 100……………..5 x Lvl 80 + 5 x Lvl 70 + 5 x Lvl 60 Bureau of Revenue Hixon Lvl 90………………..5 x Lvl 70 + 5 x Lvl 60 + 5 x Lvl 50 MARSHALS : Helping Town »Riots« and Hunting Criminals PINKERTONS : patroling States for Bounty Hunters ( competition issues ) and Hunting Criminals BUREAU : Moonshiners St.Denis Police Lambert Lvl 100………………….40 x Lvl 60 Blackwater Police Dunbar Lvl 100………….………..25 x Lvl 60 Valentine Malloy Lvl 80…………………..Harmon Lvl 70 Strawberry Hanley Lvl 80…………………..Farley Lvl 70 Armadillo RDR 1 Sheriff Lvl 90…….. Palmer Lvl 70 Tumbleweed Freeman Lvl 90………………..XXXXX Lvl 70 Rhodes Grey Lvl 70…………………..McGregor Lvl 70 Annesburg Jones Lvl 70……………….Deputy from Story Lvl 70 Chuparosa Escalera SETTLEMENT Elder Lvl 80…………. 15 x Lvl 50 Gaptooth Mines ( Phineas Ramsbottom leading personal expedition with escavating Mines ) Butcher's Creek ( Obediah Hinton ) Lagras ( Thomas »Skiff Captain» ) Casa Madrugada ( Joaquin Arroyo ) Thieves Landing ( Mrs. Grimshaw leading Brothel from RDR1, Landing pulled to the small island and being part of West Elizabeth ) POST Gunslinger Lvl 100……. Leader Lvl 80 …….Hand Lvl 70…….10 x Soldiers Lvl 70 Ratskeller Fork ( XY & YX + Billy Midnight ) Manzanita Post ( Lee & Nils + Slim Grant ) Jackson's Yard ( Morris Peyton & Wilton Glover + Emmet Granger ) Clemens Cove ( Clay & Clive Davies + Black Belle ) Les Hermanas ( Sister Calderon & Brother Dawkins + Flacco Hernandez ) RANCH Father Lvl 90……..Kid Lvl 80……..Foreman Lvl 70…..Hand Lvl 60…..15 x Lvl 50 MacFarland Ranch Emerald Ranch Pronghorn Ranch Braithwaite Manor Grey Manor El Matadero FARM Inhabitant 1 Lvl 80…….. Inhabitant 2 Lvl 70 Ridgewood Farm………………….Shane Finley……………………….RDR1 Two Crows Solomon's Folly Venter's Place Worthington Ranch………………….…RDR1…………………………..XXXXX Critchley Ranch…………………….….…RDR1…………………………..XXXXX Shepherds Rise……………..……..Hamish Sinclair…………………...Mrs. Sinclair Painted Sky…………………………..……Wayne……………………………..Devon Frankenstein House……………………Hermit………………………..Etta Buckley Van Horn Mansion……………………...Luther…………………………Mrs. Swan Carmody Dell………………………Bob Crawford Sr………………..Bob Crawford Jr. Downes Ranch……………………..Thomas Downes………….…….Archie Downes Guthrie Farm………………….…..Wilson McDaniels………..…….Chick Matthews Ridge View………………………………..Tommy………………………Mrs.Londonderry Farm House…………………………..Harville Presley………………………..Helen Castor's Ridge……………………………..Bubba…………………………….…Jeb McLeans House............................Hayden Russel………………Charlotte Balfour Aberdeen Farm………………………..Bray Aberdeen………….…Tammy Aberdeen Compson's Stead………………….Jeremiah Compston…………….Mrs. Marjorie Hill Heaven Ranch…………………….Mark Johnson……………….…..Sally Argil Rise………………………………….Sampson Black……………….Wendell White Catfish Jackson…………………………..Algie Davison………………..Nate Davison NPC OUTLAWS Major Gang (2 + 15) Leader Lvl 100……Right hand Lvl 80……15 x Lvl 40 Fort Mercer……………………….Montez Hanging Dog Ranch……………Laramie Six Point Cabin………………….O'Driscoll Shady Belle……………………….Lemoyne Riders Colter……………………………….Skinner Minor Gang ( 4 ) Leader Lvl 80…..2nd Brother Lvl 70….3rd Brother Lvl 60….4th Brother Lvl 50 Twin Rocks………………………Cortez Watson's Cabin………………..Watson Fire Tower Cabin……………..Anderson Lonnie's Shack………………...Foreman Chez Porter………………………Porter Edited August 6, 2020 by IanLaudan Failed Again, Bi9Daddy68, Brutal Trout and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLaudan Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) Reserved for more to come VBR Laudan Edited August 11, 2020 by IanLaudan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 seems like you got lots of free time at work. good for you man! great ideas btw Failed Again and kcole4001 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) lol, imagine if RDO was actually like this instead of a reskinned GTAO? Imagine if R* actually told the truth all that time ago. Edited July 23, 2020 by RyuNova Lonely-Martin, kcole4001 and Failed Again 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcole4001 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 A lot of very interesting ideas. A little helpful criticism: the red text is hard to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLaudan Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) On 7/23/2020 at 10:54 AM, BUT THE BENZ said: seems like you got lots of free time at work. good for you man! great ideas btw On 7/23/2020 at 1:33 PM, kcole4001 said: A lot of very interesting ideas. Thanks for the headsup. In case it wasnt done before, i will just share the map with you here, all the buildings we could populate, without Settlements : VBR Laudan Edited August 2, 2020 by IanLaudan kcole4001 and DentureDynamite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurEcho Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Sounds a lot better than the current state of RDO, good job! DentureDynamite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLaudan Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 ST.DENIS map detailed VBR Laudan Kirsty and Rockstarsucks33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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