Singleplayer is dead.

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Just download some mods.

[KatanaDV20]

I still play SP and am doing another playthrough atm but with all the best mods. Its the mods that have utterly transformed SP for me. Simple Trainer & the gore & dismemberment ones specially  = such fun. 

 

My favorite character in the SP story isnt even playable - Lamar. The guy is hilarious, the voice acting is so on point. When it comes to the 3 protagonists I find I like Franklin best.

 

I do play Online also but only Invite Only mode. And even that I play alone. So to those who dont like Online or havent tried it because you dont like the idea of being on a map with randoms - Invite Only is the way to go. You can have a completely solo experience messing about doing the missions and stuff. 

[Totallycasual]

I'm really hoping that when they do the PS5 update they'll allow some of the online stuff into the single player game, for f*cks sake the casino opening was part of the single player DLC but was recycled into an online update, the least they could do is allow the casino to open. 

[xPsyKho_]

It'd sure be nice if i could get to play Singe player without it f*cking crashing now thanks to R*'s sh*tty forced online summer update that literally no one asked for. Thanks R* for royally f*cking my game up. You guys are just the best in the industry and a top role-model to gaming companies everywhere. /s 

[Beato_dim]

I mean, none SP GTA game received any updates beyond 1.5 years after release, so I don't see how GTA V would be _more_ alive at this point.

[Cutter De Blanc]

The new Summer update adds chrome offroad wheels to singleplayer, but I suspect this is not intentional 

[ddarko12]

Now that I've installed mods, I only play singleplayer. The only reason I had ever moved to GTA:Online was because they stopped adding cars to singleplayer after Ill Gotten Gains 2. I was never about multiplayer, unless it was GTA IV MP because it was a true sandbox where nothing mattered and you could do f*ck all... hardly what GTA:Online is... but that IS what singleplayer has become with mods.

 

GTA:Online clearly doesn't feel like the full game. It's still running on the same traffic popgroups as the 2013 version of the game. The weather is limited and runs on a repeat schedule with no diversity, the props are missing, there are less scripts, less random activities happening around the virtual world, the graphics are worse, the performance is worse and you're limited in what you can do and interact with. There are so many aspects of the game missing from GTA:Online. It's clear that it is only a focus because it makes them money. Nothing more. And I honestly would not go back to it because there is nothing of substance.

 

It's sad that it has to be that way but you just have to accept that Rockstar has transformed into one of those businesses where everything is profit-oriented. If it doesn't maximize their income in the best way possible, they won't do it. Idiots who don't know anything about business will justify this act, without realizing that plenty of businesses do consider and try to stay true to their values and what made them special while making a profit.

 

Let's be real here. Neither Rockstar, nor Take Two, are hurting for cash. They are so far beyond their break-even point with GTA V and GTA:Online that it isn't even funny. Any company making that kind of profit, that actually cares about their customers, would put value into segments of their market and try to satisfy all needs. There is a segment for singleplayer, it is not totally absent. It's more inactive because of their choices and neglect for it, but it's still there. And money could be made. Regardless, they could do it, they should do it, and I'm sure some of them want to do it. But the bean counters and management think otherwise. And because making money is the main priority, that's that. Whatever the bean counters think is the best option, they take it. And right now the bean counters see no value in doing anything with singleplayer. So they went with the decision to neglect it. Not every company would do that. Especially if they had the extreme proceeds and success of Rockstar and Take Two. "Oh they're a business that's what they do." Look around you. Is everything you own, everything that's ever been made- was it all created with the sole purpose of making money? No.

 

There are plenty of story mode focused games that are successful. GTA V originalyl sold millions of copies with its story mode being the main focus. It is not a niche market. So ignoring it, when plenty of people are still asking for it, really isn't "it doesn't make them money" instead it's "it doesn't make them the most money" so they won't pursue it instead they'll only pursue what makes them the most money.

Edited August 18, 2020 by ddarko12

[Coloratura]

On 7/30/2020 at 11:10 PM, gtafaninwest said:

Sure seems like it. As boring as V's story is, I still prefer it over that Online. I wish these stupid updates [This post has been flagged and will be monitored] keeps imposing for Online would be separate from SP, which hasn't even got an update in 4-5 years. It was stupid on their part to even merge SP and Online together.

THIS. I mean, aside from the fact that I hate having to wait on the good people who develop Scripthook to keep updating their software so we can play singleplayer with a modicum of freedom, why not just wall off SP so that online updates don't affect it? I don't care if they don't add another car, I mod the crap out of it, and love the cars the gamers make as a hobby. I've had more fun this way than just playing the original game (which I enjoyed). Integrating the two, online and sp mode, just screwed us over, which is probably the point, so that we're kind of "forced" to play online if we want to keep playing without bi-weekly or monthly interruptions for a week at a time.

[Lock n' Stock]

GTA Online can go f*ck itself. Worthless piece of sh*t ruined the entire franchise.

[Schokoladeka]

On 8/17/2020 at 7:33 AM, Lethal-lock said:

I'm really hoping that when they do the PS5 update they'll allow some of the online stuff into the single player game, for f*cks sake the casino opening was part of the single player DLC but was recycled into an online update, the least they could do is allow the casino to open. 

That is never going to happen. Think. GTA Online is Rockstar's biggest and greatest cash cow. They've made 500 million from Shark Cards alone (correct me if I'm wrong). Why on earth do you think they'd add features to Singleplayer? Rockstar wants people to keep playing GTA Online, that's exactly why they keep releasing these half-assed sh*tty moronic good for nothing updates. As Niko Bellic would say "All they care about is making money". Screw 'em.

[Totallycasual]

4 hours ago, Schokoladeka said:

That is never going to happen.

And a lot of people are going to refuse to buy the single player game yet again unless there is a reason to do so.  Slightly improved textures and such aren't going to do it for me, i need to see some content from online cross over to single player and seeing as the casino was originally meant to be open on single player, i don't think it's much to ask.  I'm not asking for a heap of new missions or anything, just the phone call from Lester to tell me it's open and let me gambed there as M, T and F.  Let some of the newer cars, boats and planes cross over, weapons too! 

[REVENGE777]

I think the biggest issue is that the base game itself, as it stands, just isn’t as engaging and captivating as previous titles. Once you’ve played through the story once, that’s about it. It lacks the sense of nuance and drama that IV had, it lacks the engagement San Andreas had, and it lacks the atmosphere vice city had. It’s a good game in its own merit but it’s just not up to snuff with the kind of quality you’d expect from a rockstar game.

 

It’s obvious that the game was built to have single player expansions flesh everything out, but they took the easy way out and focused 100% online. If rockstar doesn’t give a f*ck about single player, why should we? It’ll be 8 years when gta V releases for the third time and i don’t see them making any efforts to improve anything. It’s been dead in the water as soon as online got its first few updates.

Edited October 5, 2020 by SonofLosSantos

[Official General]

On 8/18/2020 at 4:50 AM, ddarko12 said:

Now that I've installed mods, I only play singleplayer. The only reason I had ever moved to GTA:Online was because they stopped adding cars to singleplayer after Ill Gotten Gains 2. I was never about multiplayer, unless it was GTA IV MP because it was a true sandbox where nothing mattered and you could do f*ck all... hardly what GTA:Online is... but that IS what singleplayer has become with mods.

 

GTA:Online clearly doesn't feel like the full game. It's still running on the same traffic popgroups as the 2013 version of the game. The weather is limited and runs on a repeat schedule with no diversity, the props are missing, there are less scripts, less random activities happening around the virtual world, the graphics are worse, the performance is worse and you're limited in what you can do and interact with. There are so many aspects of the game missing from GTA:Online. It's clear that it is only a focus because it makes them money. Nothing more. And I honestly would not go back to it because there is nothing of substance.

 

It's sad that it has to be that way but you just have to accept that Rockstar has transformed into one of those businesses where everything is profit-oriented. If it doesn't maximize their income in the best way possible, they won't do it. Idiots who don't know anything about business will justify this act, without realizing that plenty of businesses do consider and try to stay true to their values and what made them special while making a profit.

 

Let's be real here. Neither Rockstar, nor Take Two, are hurting for cash. They are so far beyond their break-even point with GTA V and GTA:Online that it isn't even funny. Any company making that kind of profit, that actually cares about their customers, would put value into segments of their market and try to satisfy all needs. There is a segment for singleplayer, it is not totally absent. It's more inactive because of their choices and neglect for it, but it's still there. And money could be made. Regardless, they could do it, they should do it, and I'm sure some of them want to do it. But the bean counters and management think otherwise. And because making money is the main priority, that's that. Whatever the bean counters think is the best option, they take it. And right now the bean counters see no value in doing anything with singleplayer. So they went with the decision to neglect it. Not every company would do that. Especially if they had the extreme proceeds and success of Rockstar and Take Two. "Oh they're a business that's what they do." Look around you. Is everything you own, everything that's ever been made- was it all created with the sole purpose of making money? No.

 

There are plenty of story mode focused games that are successful. GTA V originalyl sold millions of copies with its story mode being the main focus. It is not a niche market. So ignoring it, when plenty of people are still asking for it, really isn't "it doesn't make them money" instead it's "it doesn't make them the most money" so they won't pursue it instead they'll only pursue what makes them the most money.

 

I can't even play V in SP with mods anymore. There is only so much mods can do for a game like V that has a boring, uninteresting storyline, only has one city, and a largely wasted map. I'm just playing GTA San Andreas with mods, better graphics/effects and installing a lot of V-styled stuff on there, just to get a bigger GTA gaming experience, but with that modern V-styled feel. And trust me, it's MUCH BETTER than V SP. 

 

Just do what I do and take yourself back to San Andreas in the 1990s. Or if you want take San Andreas into the 21st century using the best mods.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Single player is not dead for me as far as San Andreas is concerned

 

Edited September 29, 2020 by Official General

[Ryo256]

@Official General Damn that looks amazing!

[Official General]

9 minutes ago, Ryo256 said:

@Official General Damn that looks amazing!

It is indeed. And the crazy thing is, it's so easy to do once you know what you are doing. As far as SP is concerned, SA with mods is nearest thing to a great V gaming experience, because of the fact that both are located in The State Of San Andreas. 

[Niobium]

V's singleplayer was dead for a long time. in fact, it was dead on arrival. with a story that has such poor writing, linear scripted missions that lack replay value, and a big empty map with nothing to do, GTA V's single player was never going to compete with the likes of IV or SA.

[JiaHengK]

3 minutes ago, Niobium said:

V's singleplayer was dead for a long time. in fact, it was dead on arrival. with a story that has such poor writing, linear scripted missions that lack replay value, and a big empty map with nothing to do, GTA V's single player was never going to compete with the likes of IV or SA.

Agreed. Unless Rockstar introduces some brand new content for Singleplayer, it will sadly stay as dead as it has for years now.