How Exactly are Guns on the Weapons' Wheel Arranged?

[Hideyosho]

Howdy everyone.

 

I've just transferred my money and rank from one testing character to my real one, and came to, apparently, notice that the order in which you buy weapons from a certain category is the order in which they'll be shown on the WW.

 

The thing is that, when scrolling through the heavy weapons category, despite having bought the Rocket Launcher first, then the Homing Launcher, and finally the Grenade Launcher, the last one appears first in that category, so I have to scroll through it to reach my Rocket Launcher, which is kind of annoying, and likely dangerous while at a shootout.

 

Does the above mean weapons' order is random? Because it happens to me the same with the Combat MG and the Micro SMG, having chosen the first as my "first shown" weapon in the SMG/MG category.

I chose an specific order for all weapons I use in order of frequency of use, and the problem above just ruins this up. Any advice?

 

My best bet is that I was wrong about the purchasing order, and that the weapons, no matter in which order you buy them, will be randomly arranged in each category.

 

From the information I could gather so far, it seems the game has predetermined order for all weapons in each category, so it doesn't mater in which order you bought your weapons.

 

Thanks all in advance.

Edited July 21, 2020 by Hideyosho

[HamwithCheese]

25 minutes ago, Hideyosho said:

notice that the order in which you buy weapons from a certain category is the order in which they'll be shown on the WW.

They appear in the order of which you unlock them. 

[Hideyosho]

24 minutes ago, HamwithCheese said:

They appear in the order of which you unlock them. 

Thanks for replying.

 

Interesting. Never noticed the weapons appeared in order of level unlock. Since I only buy the necessary weapons, I almost always have one in each category, except for SMGs/MGs and Heavy Weapons.

 

However, I noticed the Micro SMG always comes first when getting out of a car, and it even shows first while not, despite you unlock it at Rank 5 (I also use the Combat PDW, and it unlocks at Rank 1, so this adds to the confusion).

Edited July 21, 2020 by Hideyosho

[HamwithCheese]

7 minutes ago, Hideyosho said:

However, I noticed the Micro SMG always comes first when getting out of a car, and it even shows first while not, despite you unlock it at Rank 5 (I also use the Combat PDW, and it unlocks at Rank 1, so this adds to the confusion).

I think the game defaults you to the micro smg when getting into a car. The combat pdw is a dlc weapon

[SummerFreeze]

On 7/21/2020 at 3:30 AM, HamwithCheese said:

They appear in the order of which you unlock them. 

Generally, yes, but the DLC weapons with unlock rank 0 complicate matters.

 

The weapons have a fixed order, which applies to all players. In general, it's the default weapons ordered by rank, followed by the DLC weapons in chronological order. Mk II weapons are different again though and they will take the place of the Mk I weapon. Furthermore, some of the weapon wheel categories have additional subcategories, like machine pistols / SMGs being followed by proper machine guns. (Although the latter includes the Gusenberg Sweeper, which should be a submachine gun.)

 

Also note that the weapon wheel choices of your character when going online will be equal to your single player character's *if* your online character owns these weapons as well. Otherwise you get the first one in the order.

 

So if you for example have the following: Carbine Rifle Mk II, Advanced Rifle, Bullpup Rifle Mk II, Compact RIfle -- they will be ordered this way. And if you go online from a character that has the Advanced Rifle showing on his weapon wheel, then this will be the selected weapon for your online character as well.

 

On 7/21/2020 at 3:37 AM, Hideyosho said:

However, I noticed the Micro SMG always comes first when getting out of a car, and it even shows first while not, despite you unlock it at Rank 5 (I also use the Combat PDW, and it unlocks at Rank 1, so this adds to the confusion).

The drive-by weapons have a fixed order, too.

 

However, the default weapon is the Micro SMG, or the SMG Mk II for motorcycles/boats if you have one. If you disable the Micro SMG with a gun locker, then the AP Pistol will be used instead. (Personally I prefer the Micro SMG though.)

 

If your character carries a weapon that can be used as a drive-by weapon *before* entering a vehicle, then this one will be used instead.

Edited July 22, 2020 by SummerFreeze

[Hideyosho]

13 hours ago, SummerFreeze said:

Generally, yes, but the DLC weapons with unlock rank 0 complicate matters.

 

The weapons have a fixed order, which applies to all players. In general, it's the default weapons ordered by rank, followed by the DLC weapons in chronological order. Mk II weapons are different again though and they will take the place of the Mk I weapon.

 

Also note that the weapon wheel choices of your character when going online will be equal to your single player character's *if* your online character owns these weapons as well. Otherwise you get the first one in the order.

 

So if you for example have the following: Carbine Rifle Mk II, Advanced Rifle, Bullpup Rifle Mk II, Compact RIfle -- they will be ordered this way. And if you go online from a character that has the Advanced Rifle showing on his weapon wheel, then this will be the selected weapon for your online character as well.

Thank you very much for replying SummerFreeze.

 

Now that it's clear there's a fixed order for every weapon in the game for all players, I know you cannot do nothing about it (which is fine, since it's been bothering me there was a way to choose the order that I wasn't aware of), except for that Story Mode trick, which should work only for the first weapon displayed on each category. Not trying to sound rude here, but can anyone confirm what I said above? Just trying to be 100% sure, to not harbor any false hopes.

 

13 hours ago, SummerFreeze said:

The drive-by weapons have a fixed order as well.

 

However, the default weapon is the Micro SMG, or the SMG Mk II for motorcycles/boats if you have one. If you disable the Micro SMG with a gun locker, then the AP Pistol will be used instead. (Personally I prefer the Micro SMG though.)

 

If your character carries a weapon that can be used as a drive-by weapon *before* entering a vehicle, then this one will be used instead.

This. I also noticed drive-by weapons had priority, but nothing can be done about it (referring when you need to swtich to another SMG or an MG). By the way, I also prefer the Micro SMG, it just feel way more comfortable with it than with the AP Pistol. Mostly for the bullet spread, rate of fire, and looks.

Edited July 21, 2020 by Hideyosho