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Insane Clown Posse: players protesting against R* on lack of content

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Surebrec
17 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

Why would they be asking questions when the game is getting free publicity? The money they are investing in the company is not getting spent on magazine/article space.

 

Just because we are not kept informed do you really think the investors/higher ups are not kept informed?

Share holders and investors are only going to want serious returns on their investments they aren't going to give a flying f*ck in a rolling donut about a bit of free publicity. They are also not likely to take bad publicity as a positive.

Their own bottom lines are their #1 priority, and if they think that's under threat, they'll take it very seriously. Their collective investments are what will have played a considerable part in funding the design and development from the first day all the way up to now and and including future content.

My belief is that they'll only abandon the game if the investors decide to pull out. I think it's more likely that they are focusing their efforts on porting the game onto next gen platforms, as well as taking the opportunity to completely gut the game mechanics and give it a complete overhaul from the ground up.

That's what I think. I don't buy into the belief that they are just rolling over and letting the game die.

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RyuNova
3 minutes ago, Surebrec said:

Share holders and investors are only going to want serious returns on their investments they aren't going to give a flying f*ck in a rolling donut about a bit of free publicity.

 

I disagree but we are both welcome to our opinions.

 

Just because we, the sweaty masses, don't know what's happening or what The Grand Design is does not mean that the major investors are not kept informed. Seeing as we have not seen R*/Take2's investors flee en masse or their prices plummet we can safely assume that they like what R* is feeding them.

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IanLaudan
Posted (edited)

RDO is side-kick of RDR2 and RDR2 is still selling ok because of Good SP story ( just check the reviews on Steam ). Same goes for Gold Bars which are side-kicks of Shark Cards that are also selling as honey, so both RDO and GOLD connected to it are just a little extras on top of Billions R* is cropping with RDR2 and GTA / GTO.

As i said before, the whole concept of RDO is showing they didnt had a clue about the proper MMO ( re-enacting or "Second Life" roleplaying ), leaving all the depth and potential of the most imersive ingame World unexploited.

 

And it will stay so as much as i hate to say that. Photographer Role is not the answer.....

 

VBR

Laudan

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Surebrec
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24 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

I disagree but we are both welcome to our opinions.

 

Just because we, the sweaty masses, don't know what's happening or what The Grand Design is does not mean that the major investors are not kept informed. Seeing as we have not seen R*/Take2's investors flee en masse or their prices plummet we can safely assume that they like what R* is feeding them.



I believe the investors are exceptionally well informed (as all investors are (well the ones who are good at what they do anyway)), and I agree, that's why haven't jumped ship. They KNOW something we don't about the state of development.

It's not about R*/T2 feeding them anything, it's about them laying out a distinct road map for the future of the game both single player and online modes and showing commitment to seeing it through. It's about them meeting deadlines and meeting them on time. Missed deadlines = money lost.

People are getting pissed over lack of transparency, and rightly so, but at the end of the day, it's not the players they have an obligation to keep informed. It's said investors and shareholders. As I said, I think they either know already, or they'll find out in the upcoming conference call exactly what the future of the game holds.

If they get wind of players protesting like this and realise why it's happening, they may very well take it extremely seriously, seriously enough to start asking questions of both T2 & R*.

Investors will always care more about the numbers of players playing the games they are invested in a lot more than reading magazines. The only time they'll happy with what's written in magazines is if it's going to encourage players to buy the game, or keep current players playing.

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RyuNova
2 minutes ago, Surebrec said:

If they get wind of players protesting like this and realise why it's happening, they may very well take it extremely seriously, seriously enough to start asking questions of both T2 & R*.

 

A few uppity players dressing up as clowns and honking around is nothing to worry about. A vocal minority that's shouting loudly does not make a revolution.

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Surebrec
1 minute ago, RyuNova said:

 

A few uppity players dressing up as clowns and honking around is nothing to worry about. A vocal minority that's shouting loudly does not make a revolution.

All it needs to do is draw their attention. If it takes as little as "a few uppity players dressing up as clowns" to get it, it's enough.

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Lonely-Martin
Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Surebrec said:

I believe the investors are exceptionally well informed (as all investors are (well the ones who are good at what they do anyway)), and I agree, that's why haven't jumped ship. They KNOW something we don't about the state of development.

It's not about R*/T2 feeding them anything, it's about them laying out a distinct road map for the future of the game both single player and online modes and showing commitment to seeing it through. It's about them meeting deadlines and meeting them on time. Missed deadlines = money lost.

People are getting pissed over lack of transparency, and rightly so, but at the end of the day, it's not the players they have an obligation to keep informed. It's said investors and shareholders. As I said, I think they either know already, or they'll find out in the upcoming conference call exactly what the future of the game holds.

If they get wind of players protesting like this and realise why it's happening, they may very well take it extremely seriously, seriously enough to start asking questions of both T2 & R*.

R* have a ready made excuse with the pandemic that's had a financial effect on so much in the world this last few months to where, if they are showing to have lost potential revenue, there's that pandemic to use as to why. 

 

Especially as during RDR2's creation, R* were heavily and publicly criticised for working conditions too. They surely couldn't be seen pushing folk to work while at risk of catching/spreading the virus on a DLC after that negativity and will just tell T2 they had to let people take time off. That would do more damage than this clown thing IMO.

 

Basically, I think T2 know sales targets set for R* may not be reached this quarter because of current IRL issues and will be prepared for those numbers being affected by it. 

 

But then again, with so many at home on lockdown, number of players/gold/shark card sales could have thrived too, lol. I know my lad has spend more than usual on new games to play tbis year through him/me not being able to go out. And that'll be just fine for papa Strauss of course. Which could show R*/T2 that all is well and a bit of publicity and noise over the game could see more players hop on in clown gear just to be part of a modern trend, as many kids tend to do.

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WanteD1

Nice movement! Finally R* fans are doing something together! loud and clear!
Next movement should be boycotting GTAO! and make R* talk about GTA VI

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TCA
14 hours ago, Surebrec said:

All it needs to do is draw their attention. If it takes as little as "a few uppity players dressing up as clowns" to get it, it's enough.

I’m very sure Rockstar knows they haven’t updated the game in a while. They don’t need reminded. Then what happens when they do bring something out? Same people are gonna complain about that.

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AmyStone

As if clowns would be anything to worry about. In fact the clown outfits look a lot more normal than many of the hideous outfits the tryhards wear.

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Leftover Pizza

The only thing that makes Rockstar think is when the number of logins are declining rapidly. Playing as a clown doesn't realise that goal. Shareholders will surely have better things to do than checking in on negative feedback on any of their investments, as long as the numbers aren't declining too much. If the numbers decline too much, shareholders will look for other revenues. They won't spend much time trying to get an investment up high. 

It's all about the hard coin and while that still keeps flowing in from whatever Rockstar game, no one, besides the players, will be bothered with anything related to a specific game. 

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Blendi-

suprise it took rdo players this long to do this

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*Lola

Next Tuesday Masks on sale.

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areyouchappin
Posted (edited)

After multiple months of waiting, when Rockstar finally drops some little baby d*** update, all of the clown-faced nancy-boys are gonna be like: "See guyz! we saved da world of gamin all by myselfz!"

I hate to say it, but if you're still playing this game daily with the hope that it's going to get better, then you most definitely SHOULD be dressing up as a clown... because that's exactly what you are.

 

The Rockstar Games that started it all is dead and gone.

Get over it already.

 

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Lonely-Martin
14 minutes ago, areyouchappin said:

After multiple months of waiting, when Rockstar finally drops some little baby d*** update, all of the clown-faced nancy-boys are gonna be like: "See guyz! we saved da world of gamin all by myselfz!"

I hate to say it, but if you're still playing this game daily with the hope that it's going to get better, then you most definitely SHOULD be dressing up as a clown... because that's exactly what you are.

 

The Rockstar Games that started it all is dead and gone.

Get over it already.

I don't disagree with your point that playing on is only gonna confirm to R* that all is well, but that's a bit of a harsh way to express it though. 

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Dark Spark

The clown protest is a shot across the bow, a warning sign meant to inform Rockstar as the reason behind what happens next: the inevitable fall-off of players if they keep not doing what they're not doing.

 

When your car won't start in the morning for no reason at all, you end up wondering what went wrong. If your car won't start in the morning because you ignored the rattling noises and gouts of smoke on the drive home last night, at least you know why you are now the proud owner of a wreck.

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RyuNova
16 hours ago, *Lola said:

Next Tuesday Masks on sale.

 

If I was a betting man (I'm not) I would put money on it.

13 hours ago, areyouchappin said:

After multiple months of waiting, when Rockstar finally drops some little baby d*** update, all of the clown-faced nancy-boys are gonna be like: "See guyz! we saved da world of gamin all by myselfz!"

I hate to say it, but if you're still playing this game daily with the hope that it's going to get better, then you most definitely SHOULD be dressing up as a clown... because that's exactly what you are.

 

The Rockstar Games that started it all is dead and gone.

Get over it already.

 

 

Lack of eloquence aside this is correct.

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4eyedcoupe

I list clowns and zombies as allergies when I go to the doctor(truth), so I can't play right now. 

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DEADMEAT2016
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retracted

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AmyStone
12 hours ago, Dark Spark said:

The clown protest is a shot across the bow, a warning sign meant to inform Rockstar as the reason behind what happens next: the inevitable fall-off of players if they keep not doing what they're not doing.

You actually think it's going to make any difference? So far I've only seen one clown and I spend a lot of hours in the game. I guess the clowns are having fun and thinking they are making a difference - which they are probably not. I think they are more into it for the fun and attention than anything else. If people stopped dressing as clowns and started bombarding them with tickets about the same issue week on week then I think that would make more of a difference.

 

And I actually think Rockstar are doing things right. Everyone has been complaining about stability and at the same time asking for more content. Well I don't think you can have both because whenever they have given us content they have broken things. And right now it seems they are working on stability. Camps and horses are no longer an issue and I'm getting far less disconnects now. They also seem to have fixed some of the exploits people used to grief.  I'd much prefer them to keep working on fixing the problems now before they start adding new features. But I guess whatever they do people are going to complain.

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Nonfatcactus327
Posted (edited)
On 7/15/2020 at 7:57 PM, Surebrec said:

I believe the investors are exceptionally well informed (as all investors are (well the ones who are good at what they do anyway)), and I agree, that's why haven't jumped ship. They KNOW something we don't about the state of development.
 

That would be what’s called “insider trading” and anyone involved would get Martha Stewart bracelets.  They don’t know.  Check Rockstars instagram. Last years content packaged as new. 
 

1 hour ago, DEADMEAT2016 said:

I'm a Shareholder ... and trust me I could care less. I care way more about stuff like this.

https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/take-two-stock-videogames-price-increase-51594932711?mod=mw_quote_news

 

https://www.thestreet.com/quote/ttwo


these positive articles on take 2 don’t even mention rockstar or their billion dollar IP.   Not too long ago that was a selling point I believe. 

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Nonfatcactus327
Posted (edited)
On 7/15/2020 at 7:57 PM, Surebrec said:



I believe the investors are exceptionally well informed (as all investors are (well the ones who are good at what they do anyway)), and I agree, that's why haven't jumped ship. They KNOW something we don't about the state of development.

 

Was replying to this but accidentally deleted the quote.  That’s insider trading maybe ockstar has gone full outlaw lol 

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RyuNova
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Pretty sure that the investors don't care about what's happening with RDO because they know GTA5/OS is gonna make serious serious bank. I would predict it makes at least another billion before the PS5 and next Xbox gen is over.

 

Sony just cut them a fat f*cking cheque to get three months exclusivity for GTAO Standalone. You think that if Sony can drop a QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS on Epic's lap they can't drop ten or twenty million on R*?

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Lonely-Martin
16 hours ago, Kirsty said:

Did a little (OK a long) article about the clowning around, thanks to @ALifeOfMisery @Leftover Pizza and @RyuNova for letting me include their opinions! 

 

https://gtanet.com/red-dead-clowns-who-are-they-and-why-are-they-here/

A good read, and something I feel could only help if anything.

 

I'm sceptical this current trend will prove helpful, but for sure, a well written article is better than just stuff like me or whoever saying something more simple like 'fix it, R*'s or something equally casual/throwaway, you know?

 

Hopefully things improve soon, though again, I am too fatigued by R*'s ways to truly care, lol. What will be will be. :)

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