Is cj the most successful playable gta character

[SpicyNugget98]

Not saying hes the richest but he's defo achieved alot

Edited July 4, 2020 by SpicyNugget98

[Guest]

I'd say so. It's between CJ and Tommy imo, while Tommy probably rules the Vice City underworld, CJ has influence over an entire state. GSF are around as strong/influential in Los Santos as the Vercetti Family in Vice City and CJ also owns various properties throughout the state to boot, a successful garage business in San Fierro, a stake in a casino in Las Venturas and he's also the manager of a very successful rapper. Tommy has various businesses in VC too but CJ has statewide influence as opposed to just one city

 

CJ also has some decent allies in the form of the Triads through his relationship with Woozie and even Cesar could bring the Aztecas to help CJ if he were to get in trouble cause of their familial relations. Not sure if other protagonists have allies of a similar kind so there CJ does best too. 

 

Overall I would say CJ is the most successful. 

[SpicyNugget98]

Couldn’t have put it better, not to mention he’s the only person on earth to own a jet pack haha

[Phil Collin]

Hmm idk. I mean he did control LS in the end "kinda" plus he was a manager for a famous rapper. He 

5 hours ago, Utopianthumbs said:

I'd say so. It's between CJ and Tommy imo, while Tommy probably rules the Vice City underworld, CJ has influence over an entire state. GSF are around as strong/influential in Los Santos as the Vercetti Family in Vice City and CJ also owns various properties throughout the state to boot, a successful garage business in San Fierro, a stake in a casino in Las Venturas and he's also the manager of a very successful rapper. Tommy has various businesses in VC too but CJ has statewide influence as opposed to just one city

 

CJ also has some decent allies in the form of the Triads through his relationship with Woozie and even Cesar could bring the Aztecas to help CJ if he were to get in trouble cause of their familial relations. Not sure if other protagonists have allies of a similar kind so there CJ does best too. 

 

Overall I would say CJ is the most successful. 

He had houses all over "San Andreas" owned a own aircraft had stacks in many diffrent business. But Tommy also had control over the whole city with his gangs "almost everywhere" not downtown but where his business were. Then he owned a nightclub a stripclub a huge mansion "which CJ also did" a car sales shop, print work, boatyard a pr0n studio etc... Soo Tommy is even more sucessful i'd say.??

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Phil Collin said:

Hmm idk. I mean he did control LS in the end "kinda" plus he was a manager for a famous rapper. He 

He had houses all over "San Andreas" owned a own aircraft had stacks in many diffrent business. But Tommy also had control over the whole city with his gangs "almost everywhere" not downtown but where his business were. Then he owned a nightclub a stripclub a huge mansion "which CJ also did" a car sales shop, print work, boatyard a pr0n studio etc... Soo Tommy is even more sucessful i'd say.??

Tommy had some impressive assets for sure, is why I would say he comes closest to challenging CJ, he's practically untouchable in Vice City. However outside that I don't think he has any influence beyond maybe some reputation in Liberty City and even that I don't know if it soured later, while CJ may not have as impressive assets in Los Santos but his influence in the city is pretty much the same as Tommy in VC due to the amount of territory GSF has there ( they probably conduct some businesses there too like racketeering since that's how I'm guessing CJ gets money from his territories, may not have as diverse assets as Tommy but influence wise it's almost the same), while also having tremendous influence outside Los Santos

 

Also Tommy's only outside allies are the Cubans I guess and even then though Umberto called Tommy a brother virtually, I suspect their bond isn't as dependable as CJ and Woozie who have a personal and professional relationship, and CJ and Cesar who are family so CJ has two other gangs he can ask for aid, while it's unsure if Tommy has even one. 

 

I guess I repeated myself here from the previous post, but that's because my basic point is the same

 

Tldr - Tommy has good influence over a city but only a city, CJ has influence throughout a state(while also having similar influence in LS as Tommy in VC). Hence CJ is more successful than his closest competitor and hence overall

[Zello]

I'd say Vic Vance comes close but he's on top for a very short amount of time, gives it all up, and then dies two years later.

Edited July 4, 2020 by Zello

[Phil Collin]

51 minutes ago, Utopianthumbs said:

Tommy had some impressive assets for sure, is why I would say he comes closest to challenging CJ, he's practically untouchable in Vice City. However outside that I don't think he has any influence beyond maybe some reputation in Liberty City and even that I don't know if it soured later, while CJ may not have as impressive assets in Los Santos but his influence in the city is pretty much the same as Tommy in VC due to the amount of territory GSF has there ( they probably conduct some businesses there too like racketeering since that's how I'm guessing CJ gets money from his territories, may not have as diverse assets as Tommy but influence wise it's almost the same), while also having tremendous influence outside Los Santos

 

Also Tommy's only outside allies are the Cubans I guess and even then though Umberto called Tommy a brother virtually, I suspect their bond isn't as dependable as CJ and Woozie who have a personal and professional relationship, and CJ and Cesar who are family so CJ has two other gangs he can ask for aid, while it's unsure if Tommy has even one. 

 

I guess I repeated myself here from the previous post, but that's because my basic point is the same

 

Tldr - Tommy has good influence over a city but only a city, CJ has influence throughout a state(while also having similar influence in LS as Tommy in VC). Hence CJ is more successful than his closest competitor and hence overall

Soo you mean he has more influence in the state of SA or like a made up city? Because then i dont think it matters as much if its just in SA. Why would he have more influence in another city? Tommy was ally with Cuban and Bikers and friend with Cortez. He dosn't need to be popular somewhere else he has business in both the GTA VC islands

51 minutes ago, Zello said:

I'd say Vic Vance comes close but he's on top for a very short amount of time, gives it all up, and then dies two years later.

Yeah he literally had business over the whole city and a huge gang.. But maybe he didnt control the city because he never took down Diaz.Who became even more powerful

Edited July 4, 2020 by Phil Collin

[VenusianDream]

I think so. 

 

Tommy and Vic are other successful people, but Vic dies (Even so, he was forced to share Vice City with the Mendez brothers) and Tommy isn't as influencial.

 

Luis probably isn't as successful as CJ, but he most likely has a better life than most of the other protagonists.

 

Huang is another one, by the end of the game he's the leader of the Liberty City Triads. Given how young he is, that's a pretty successful feat.

Edited July 4, 2020 by VenusianDream

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Phil Collin said:

Soo you mean he has more influence in the state of SA or like a made up city? Because then i dont think it matters as much if its just in SA

I don't see how it doesn't matter. I guess Tommy may still have a reputation of a crime lord that grows beyond Vice City but imo CJ was simply more successful (which is the title of the topic) due to his ventures in all 3 cities giving him a possibly even more formidable reputation. He was already a hero in Los Santos during the San Fierro arc, he proceeded to take down the Loco Syndicate and deliver a blow to the Leone Mafia in SF and LV which would have increased his reputation further by the end of the game, possibly beyond Tommy's. That plus all his business ventures in the 3 cities makes in my opinion CJ more successful than Tommy. (Don't hate Tommy or like CJ more btw it's just my opinion) 

 

4 hours ago, Phil Collin said:

Why would he have more influence in another city? Tommy was ally with Cuban and Bikers and friend with Cortez

In addition to my explanation above, having a business partnership with the influential Triads in LV and running a successful business in SF means he clearly had contacts and thus influence in those cities. This is in addition to the taking down of the syndicate and other feats which would have made him a legend of sorts in the eyes of some

 

As for Tommy's allies I already explained it in the previous post, Tommy was allies with them, but don't know if they are as reliable  to call upon as CJs allies who have a more personal bond with him. Also I'm not sure about Cortez, he had his own personal issues and I don't think he'd be too happy once he finds out what Tommy has been doing with Mercedes, yknow? 

 

4 hours ago, Phil Collin said:

He dosn't need to be popular somewhere else he has business in both the GTA VC islands

Not about popularity, topic is about who is more successful. I would choose one who's made it statewide over one who's made it in two small islands/one city

Edited July 5, 2020 by Guest
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[billiejoearmstrong8]

19 hours ago, Utopianthumbs said:

I'd say so. It's between CJ and Tommy imo, while Tommy probably rules the Vice City underworld, CJ has influence over an entire state. GSF are around as strong/influential in Los Santos as the Vercetti Family in Vice City and CJ also owns various properties throughout the state to boot, a successful garage business in San Fierro, a stake in a casino in Las Venturas and he's also the manager of a very successful rapper. Tommy has various businesses in VC too but CJ has statewide influence as opposed to just one city

 

CJ also has some decent allies in the form of the Triads through his relationship with Woozie and even Cesar could bring the Aztecas to help CJ if he were to get in trouble cause of their familial relations. Not sure if other protagonists have allies of a similar kind so there CJ does best too. 

 

Overall I would say CJ is the most successful. 

Agreed. Also to fit along with this Tommy and CJ are by far the richest protagonists for me, as both VC and SA have relatively easy tricks you can exploit to get the maximum amount of money ($999999999 or however many 9's it is)

Edited July 5, 2020 by billiejoearmstrong8

[Copcaller]

I'd say so at the end of the game he has multiple assets throught the state and is second in command of Los Santos most powerful street gang.

[MechanicMammal]

Not including our online characters,

CJ had more toys than any other protagonist's in GTA history and probably owned the most in the way of property etc.

And he has in my opinion the longest most varied story with the most goals, making plenty of alliances along the way.

Edited July 6, 2020 by MechanicMammal

[kobeni]

yes because hes essentially an early 90s make-it-big-from-the-hood caricature

 

tommy vermicelli would have been realistically been put down with a wave of bullets not too long after his rise to power.