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Quinn_flower

Is R* tone deaf at this point?

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Quinn_flower
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A lot of people in the community on twitter Reddit and on here are showing displeasure to re-releaseing gta v again calling it "enhanced." When we all know it's the same thing they pulled when they released it for current gen and pc.

 

Like is R* listening to the community a lot of people are tired of gta v. They have lost touch with the people who made them and put them where they are today.

 

It's like Bethesda and skyrim milking over and over. Its a damn shame R* chose money instead of being innovated like back in the day. 

 

When you saw a R* trailer or the logo you know you going to have fun now its ugh let's see how much they want from shark cards or gold because that's how their games operate now. 

 

To squeeze as much from the player or make them frustrated enough that they give up and spend in game store. 

 

It's a crying shame R* don't forget we made you and we can break you as well.

 

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looks how many classics came out during the 00' and look how many we got in the last decade....that is sh*t because of gta online...

 

LA Noire innovative at the time great game and setting

 

Max payne 3 what can i say it was a fun game action packed.

 

gta v.......gtfo except for story which was good. 

 

rdr 2 chef kiss great story and beautiful world 

 

 

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DownInTheHole
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I mean what did you expect from a company that serves as a cash cow for take 2 and has a track record of bad working conditions

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SinZer0s

I remember when I used to tell people how that logo was kinda like the Nintendo quality seal. Now it's just a company I keep getting disappointed at.

 

I always knew good things never last forever but man it hurts, they made my childhood.

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HamwithCheese

Hasn't r* always been tone-deaf? The "bad boys" of the games industry? Taking chances by making games like Midnight Club, Manhunt, The Warriors, Bully, Red Dead Revolver? Instead of taking the easy way out and re making gta3 over and over again?

 

They've always done what they want, now they're just doing what the puppeteer wants.

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ArthurMorganRDR

Good things got to come to a end, there's no happy endings.

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MostlyPonies
43 minutes ago, Quinn_flower said:

Like is R* listening to the community

Did you see when Red Dead Online came out and Rockstar had no idea what we wanted from an online game despite having years of community feedback for GTA Online? I hope that answers your question.

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ALifeOfMisery

Quinn, they're beyond tone deaf, it's like they're operating out of a sensory deprivation tank at this point.

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FuturePastNow

They're not deaf, they hear the $$$ of Shark Card sales clearly.

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gtafan26
Posted (edited)

Its more than just R* being tone deaf, the R* of 2013 is not the same R* of 2020,  T2 is in full control and the only thing they are concerned about is profits and increasing the profits of its shareholders, but geebus f*ck, its just bad now.   I can't believe they are going to try and milk this cow on the next gen, I am very disappointed in the direction they are now heading.  

 

R* is just a shell of its former self at this point with the loss of Dan Houser and "The Benz".

 

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The Jungz

Man, imagine being excited about GTA V 3.0.

 

How the f*ck, as a game developer, can you even cope with trying to make content for a game in which its roots are built for a console that was invented and configured 15 years ago.

 

When GTA V released, I had just finished high school. I'm now in my mid-twenties. The game's longevity is dead fellas, stop dragging its rotting corpse from console to console.

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LorshZontek
4 minutes ago, The Jungz said:

Man, imagine being excited about GTA V 3.0.

 

How the f*ck, as a game developer, can you even cope with trying to make content for a game in which its roots are built for a console that was invented and configured 15 years ago.

 

When GTA V released, I had just finished high school. I'm now in my mid-twenties. The game's longevity is dead fellas, stop dragging its rotting corpse from console to console.

They seem to be making alot of money off the DLC for gta online even if it is just a copy and paste of the previous DLC, that is why they are dragging the rotting corpse, idk how people can still play this game years later considering it feels poorly made at times

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Talisman_83
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I'm disappointed that there hasn't been an announcement of a remastered RDO on PS5, however with regards to GTA 5..

 

I'm coming around to the realisation that since GTA 6 is nowhere near completion, what are we expecting from R* at this point, in terms of PS5 release?

Should they not have remastered GTA 5 and just continue supporting it on old-gen (PS4) ?

 

In my view, its the best they can do right now whilst they complete GTA 6.

We're all still going to be playing GTA 5 for a while yet.

I'm actually quite interested to see how it performs on PS5.

 

Yes, perhaps its a sh*tty move to have exclusive content only for PS5, but as a games company, why wouldn't you want to focus your attention to next-gen?

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LodwigRedemption
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34 minutes ago, Talisman_83 said:

I'm disappointed that there hasn't been an announcement of a remastered RDO on PS5, however with regards to GTA 5..

 

I'm coming around to the realisation that since GTA 6 is nowhere near completion, what are we expecting from R* at this point, in terms of PS5 release?

Should they not have remastered GTA 5 and just continue supporting it on old-gen (PS4) ?

 

In my view, its the best they can do right now whilst they complete GTA 6.

We're all still going to be playing GTA 5 for a while yet.

I'm actually quite interested to see how it performs on PS5.

 

Yes, perhaps its a sh*tty move to have exclusive content only for PS5, but as a games company, why wouldn't you want to focus your attention to next-gen?

No one's saying it doesn't make sense, but there could've been so something else... You know, a NEW game, and then also GTA V, and no one would have complained. Also, what about RDR2? Will they just leave it there?

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Giantsgiants
49 minutes ago, LorshZontek said:

They seem to be making alot of money off the DLC for gta online even if it is just a copy and paste of the previous DLC, that is why they are dragging the rotting corpse, idk how people can still play this game years later considering it feels poorly made at times

Well, all you need is one new car to get the kiddies excited and the hype train rolling again.

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Talisman_83
14 minutes ago, LodwigRedemption said:

No one's saying it doesn't make sense, but there could've been so something else... You know, a NEW game, and then also GTA V, and no one would have complained. Also, what about RDR2? Will they just leave it there?

True, there could've been but I guess they're simply not ready to even preview anything right now, which of course sucks.

I'm still expecting to hear something about a remastered RDR2 though, that did surprise me to not have anything announced about it.

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dino722
19 minutes ago, Talisman_83 said:

True, there could've been but I guess they're simply not ready to even preview anything right now, which of course sucks.

I'm still expecting to hear something about a remastered RDR2 though, that did surprise me to not have anything announced about it.

Difficult to remaster a gane that hs been in development for the past 5+ years and now round the corner work on it again for ps5. Probably it will come put but with time...at the moment gta v is their concern since its the last drops of milk in my opinion and when there is nothing else to milk then they will announce gta VI and only that will bring again players back to gta V to warm up.

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UKPortista

Nothing to add...other than like most other people, I feel utterly deflated at this state off affairs (no doubt ShadowOperative is dancing around in his panties at this news, though).

 

Rockstar...Take-Two...they can both go and sh*t up a rope.

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at this point

What do you mean, this isn't 2015 anymore?

 

Anyone who expected a new game to be anounced today clearly didn't think things through. Anouncing a new game on a new system as expensive as the PS5 is a risk no developer with a brain in willing to take. The launch can bomb if something goes wrong since people are paying a lot of money. The PS5 was just anounced, how exactly was R*ckstar going to be able to develop for a system unless both were developed at the same time? Third parties never get a dev kit, so it was out of the question, but just for the sake of argument let's say it was possible.

 

Who is actually expecting GTA 6 to be any good? GTA V, despite its world and success wasn't a big technical improvement over GTA IV, which was a big leap from San Andreas technically speaking. To this day many agree that V took several steps back, and with RDR2 people started to see that R*ckstar's game design is getting obsolete. They started a formula, but now that every other open world game does the same, they NEEDED to try something new. They set trends, and with RDR2 it's clear they were just following what others did. GTA V and RDR2 are amazing games if you want to just travel around, but that's the only attractive they have now. They don't even try anymore because they know they don't have to.

 

GTA VI will come out, and it will be a massive success. Same way people meme Skyrim but are drooling idiots over TES6, R*ckstar will away with this. They will put another version of GTA V in the new gen to have presence, and that's when they'll reveal 6 so it dwarfs V. That way they'll have a steadier GTA playerbase on the new gen. GTA V launch on 2013 was so big because at that point everyone had a 360 or a PS3 and had played GTA IV, but the same didn't happened when IV launched.

 

This is Disney level of marketing, and we fell for it. We hate it? Who cares? They won, people are talking, people will buy it. They saw they do, so they won't care for a good while.

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EnforcerKiller
5 hours ago, Quinn_flower said:

It's a crying shame R* don't forget we made you and we can break you as well.

Lol, be a little realistic at least. You're not breaking Rockstar.

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GAUNTLET HELLFIRE
5 hours ago, Quinn_flower said:

Like is R* listening to the community

They are listening and know we want a new GTA but as long as online is still making them millions they don't give a sh*t what the community wants. People have been begging for the cop outfit for years and even though it won't cost R* a cent they won't give it out because they don't care about the community. Just look at the casino heist there was a bug with the MCT that benefited the players and that got patched in under 12 hours but game breaking bugs still haven't been fixed after 6 f*cking months. The trash outfit kinda proves they are listening and it being bugged for 6 months proves they don't give a sh*t about anything but money.

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SummerFreeze
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The term for this is commodification.

 

The primary interest is to sell a product (or get money in general), not provide a good gaming experience; that is secondary. Not unique to Rockstar either.

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ambi3nt

Well there are other games, other developers. If you no longer want to play gtao, then just.... don't. There are plenty of people still playing and enjoying it. And these are good news for the. All the negativity always is more visible and gives false feeling of "majority".

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Talisman_83
58 minutes ago, Mayochiki said:

What do you mean, this isn't 2015 anymore?

 

Anyone who expected a new game to be anounced today clearly didn't think things through. Anouncing a new game on a new system as expensive as the PS5 is a risk no developer with a brain in willing to take. The launch can bomb if something goes wrong since people are paying a lot of money. The PS5 was just anounced, how exactly was R*ckstar going to be able to develop for a system unless both were developed at the same time? Third parties never get a dev kit, so it was out of the question, but just for the sake of argument let's say it was possible.

 

Who is actually expecting GTA 6 to be any good? GTA V, despite its world and success wasn't a big technical improvement over GTA IV, which was a big leap from San Andreas technically speaking. To this day many agree that V took several steps back, and with RDR2 people started to see that R*ckstar's game design is getting obsolete. They started a formula, but now that every other open world game does the same, they NEEDED to try something new. They set trends, and with RDR2 it's clear they were just following what others did. GTA V and RDR2 are amazing games if you want to just travel around, but that's the only attractive they have now. They don't even try anymore because they know they don't have to.

 

GTA VI will come out, and it will be a massive success. Same way people meme Skyrim but are drooling idiots over TES6, R*ckstar will away with this. They will put another version of GTA V in the new gen to have presence, and that's when they'll reveal 6 so it dwarfs V. That way they'll have a steadier GTA playerbase on the new gen. GTA V launch on 2013 was so big because at that point everyone had a 360 or a PS3 and had played GTA IV, but the same didn't happened when IV launched.

 

This is Disney level of marketing, and we fell for it. We hate it? Who cares? They won, people are talking, people will buy it. They saw they do, so they won't care for a good while.

I'm not sure if you were quoting me, I didn't get a notification, but what I meant was, were we all expecting to have a new game announced? I wasn't.

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BestName

these words "enhanced and expanded" are fake news. it will look better but thats it. thats a big YIKES from me.

 

1 million a month hahahahahahaha. 1 million is NOTHING. you can make 1 million in a few hours.

 

1/10 rockstar

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Lonely-Martin

Leslie - Gone.

 

Dan - Gone.

 

T2 call us freeloaders for playing instead of paying, while openly discussing ways to monitise things more and appeal to the new players all the time as key targets.

 

Who honestly expected anything else, seriously. We know how they feel about many gamers and RDRO really shows how bad things will get.

 

And you can be sure that so many that are critical of this with GTA:O or RDRO will still log in and play this week/month, lol. RDRO by releasing so broken and bare while being sure to open a gold store asap as their first addition said it all, yet players still play and show R* that it is acceptable and support these ways that R* are going now. We have helped create this beast.

 

I'm mixed on this personally. I planned to get a PS5 anyway, and if I don't have to pay and can remain that freeloader R*/T2 hate so much, I'll probably play on. But if this game loses invite only sessions and as it'll surely kill solo public, if they enable griefing so much still, that's the end of me. RDRO does show me that I'll probably most likely be popping on to the next gen GTA:O, have a little look see, only to run a mile as RDRO is just taking the piss with it's reduced options, choice, lack of care and a far too slow build, that I can only foresee in GTA:O on next gen.

 

These games make so much money that they can afford to dump the freeloading old skool fans, that's clearly been the plan for years now, even before RDRO further confirmed how poor it'll get.

 

Yes, R* don't care to listen to us, but we knew that way before this recent news, lol. It's sad but true unfortunately.

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Tails Prower
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Well I'm making a brief return to the forum to post my thoughts on the PS5 reveal yesterday.

 

I was a little surprise and to be fair somewhat irate when I saw the news that GTA V was coming again for the PS5 with the 'bribe' of 1 million a month to try and make us play the PS4 game to get the free money in

the new game, even with them trying the same stunt as PS4 by offering enhanced content or presumably "returning" player thanks/transfer across..

 

Almost certainly means if there is a next GTA it is still some time away, I for one am putting my foot down and NOT buying it for a third time!

 

I sold my PS3/4 copies of the game back in January and I must admit I do not miss the online game, it was fun with friends for a very long time but not now and unless something significantly changes about the online

part with PS5 I can't be dealing with that again!

 

Don't get me wrong I am buying the PS5 as I got sold with some of the other games (Gran Turismo 7, Horizon etc) but R* I think need to do a "Kaz" and at least recognise they got things wrong (GT Sport) and have made their next game something akin to the Gran Turismo's of old.

 

I also hate to use "that" quote "Make GTA great again!" Give us a new single player game that's not toxic! Make Online separate or make it a paid for game on the PS5.

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Lonely-Martin
16 minutes ago, Tails Prower said:

Don't get me wrong I am buying the PS5 as I got sold with some of the other games (Gran Turismo 7, Horizon etc) but R* I think need to do a "Kaz" and at least recognise they got things wrong (GT Sport) and have made their next game something akin to the Gran Turismo's of old.

GT 7 does look pretty darn nice, and to see Trial Mountain return is equally cool, lol. 

 

I agree with the 'Kaz' sentiment though. Glad to see that game looking to improve in areas. Time will tell of course, but I am looking forward to learning more of Gran Turismo. 

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Tails Prower
17 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

GT 7 does look pretty darn nice, and to see Trial Mountain return is equally cool, lol. 

 

I agree with the 'Kaz' sentiment though. Glad to see that game looking to improve in areas. Time will tell of course, but I am looking forward to learning more of Gran Turismo. 

Well I have been with the series since GT 1 and am actually going to fire up the original in the PSOne tonight after work.

 

Sport on PS4 has been a little frustrating/disappointing but I'm all for the new game and if it includes many of the original liked features which it appears to and has online special events/weekly races that's a full

win for me.

 

Have not really had this much 'vibe' for a new console since the PS2 so I think Sony have succeeded with the reveal yesterday,

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Lonely-Martin

@Tails Prower. Likewise, GT1 was what got me way back when, lol. Been a PlayStation player since and the franchise, much like GTA over the years, has given me many real good moments. Sport felt it was missing a little something for me and really do hope this new game does what Sport could have for me in giving us plenty. Very glad to see the tuning return, and I do hope the livery editor that Sport brought to the franchise remains too. Could be awesome. :)

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