GTAV Coming to PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S March 15th 2022

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2 hours ago, Len Lfc said:

That's not entirely accurate. GTA V was 'downgraded' a fair bit. Compare the pre-release screenshots to the final game. It always looked better in the screenshots. But I want to make this clear, it's understandable they had to scale the visuals back. Getting GTA V to run on the 360 & PS3 is a technical marvel. But to go back to the original point being made, the screenshots and trailers always look better. Weather that's because of enhanced lighting, the position of the sun being manipulated or whatever, it's marketing material and they have to show the game off looking as good as possible. There's a reason why most peoples Snapmatics aren't very appealing and photo modes in games come with filters and/or lighting options like Insomniac. Just let's them 'pop' better.

 

Look at all them missing trees! #TBT the removed trees controversy of 2013.

Hold one, are those the infamous red wood trees that were added back with mods? Pog

1 hour ago, VideoTech said:

Are we really going to complain over some lack of trees. Sigh.

Well with the experience I grew on mapping on Half Life Alyx and a fair bit of city building in Cities Skylines, I've come to the conclusion (like others) that trees and plant life in general are a good trick to make almost any environment look realistic.

[videotech_]

Meh, a few removed trees is not considered a downgrade. 

[Kris194]

2 minutes ago, VideoTech said:

a few removed trees

A few

[Ash_735]

13 minutes ago, VideoTech said:

Meh, a few removed trees is not considered a downgrade. 

It would be nice if they restored the ones where it feels empty or at the very least, brought back the Cherry Blossom's.

[Len Lfc]

4 minutes ago, Ash_735 said:

It would be nice if they restored the ones where it feels empty or at the very least, brought back the Cherry Blossom's.

The best way of looking at it is if you go outside, IRL, and take note of all the trees you see. Then imagine half of them were just gone the next day. It would feel weird and empty. There's nothing wrong with understanding why they did it (performance). But you can still say it looks significantly worse.

This area looks significantly worse, after most of those trees were removed. It just looks empty and lifeless, now. Compare that to the full forests in RDR2. It's pretty important.

[Americana]

Even this screenshot looks so bare. Trees make a difference.

[videotech_]

I suppose we're forgetting the game released on Xbox 360 and PS3 back in the day with such limited memory? It's fine with me personally. They will probably overhaul the vegetation with E&E anyway so... I don't even get the complaining tbf

[KwiG]

2 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

The best way of looking at it is if you go outside, IRL, and take note of all the trees you see. Then imagine half of them were just gone the next day. It would feel weird and empty. There's nothing wrong with understanding why they did it (performance). But you can still say it looks significantly worse.

This area looks significantly worse, after most of those trees were removed. It just looks empty and lifeless, now. Compare that to the full forests in RDR2. It's pretty important.

I can definitely agree with that, but I suppose it's probably best that we give up on hoping for them to bring the trees back and just look forward to what they do with VI.

Just now, VideoTech said:

I suppose we're forgetting the game released on Xbox 360 and PS3 back in the day with such limited memory? It's fine with me personally. They will probably overhaul the vegetation with E&E anyway so... I don't even get the complaining tbf

We understand that they were cut due to hardware limitations, and it's not like we're saying the map is horrible because of it or anything. We're just saying that it looks weirdly empty by comparison and it would be cool to bring those trees back.

[Ash_735]

7 minutes ago, VideoTech said:

They will probably overhaul the vegetation with E&E anyway so... I don't even get the complaining tbf

The complaint is that they could've done it for the PC/PS4/XB1 release, but chose not to as "we don't want to do any map changes which may affect GTA Online". But since then they've done a load of map changes to GTA Online, so, it'd be something nice to look forward to if we got the original foliage placement back as it was clearly their vision back in 2013 before chopping it all out due to PS3/360 memory issues.

[Kris194]

10 minutes ago, VideoTech said:

I suppose we're forgetting the game released on Xbox 360 and PS3 back in the day with such limited memory?

No, we don't but we're not in X360/PS3 era anymore

Edited August 30, 2021 by Kris194

[Demysted]

I hope vehicle deformation gets improvements. It was so cool to be able to smash into other cars in Story Mode on OG GTA 5 and see the wheels fall off. Much rarer on the current version, and first person meant that deformation of the cabin had to be removed entirely. Would be cool to see them work those two things back in.

Edited August 30, 2021 by Demysted

[Len Lfc]

23 minutes ago, VideoTech said:

I suppose we're forgetting the game released on Xbox 360 and PS3 back in the day with such limited memory?

We really aren't. I've mentioned it twice already:

 

26 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

There's nothing wrong with understanding why they did it (performance). But you can still say it looks significantly worse.

 

3 hours ago, Len Lfc said:

I want to make this clear, it's understandable they had to scale the visuals back. Getting GTA V to run on the 360 & PS3 is a technical marvel

 

The point is simply that it's okay to accept and understand why they were removed. But that shouldn't blind you to the truth; that the game looks objectively worse. It's literally not a debate. Nobody sensible is really saying it's a bad thing, just that it looks worse. It's okay to be fine with it, but you can still notice it. I think some people are a little too in love with Rockstar to either see it or admit it. Not an accusation, just saying. We've all been there.

 

However, this has spun wildly off topic. This was only brought up to highlight that Rockstar does show trailers and screenshots of their games that look better than the final game. They did it with GTA V. Even the PS4 & X1 trailers & screenshots look better that the final game.

[Kirsty]

[Spider-Vice]

I feel like I'm in 2012 again looking at these arguments.  Just now I was looking back when people were analysing pre-release screenshots saying some LOD was "sh*tty", or that the bushes by Michael's house looked like menhirs, or this or that.

[Len Lfc]

Just now, Spider-Vice said:

I feel like I'm in 2012 again looking at these arguments.  Just now I was looking back when people were analysing pre-release screenshots saying some LOD was "sh*tty", or that the bushes by Michael's house looked like menhirs, or this or that.

If you don't like it... why don't you make like a TREE and leave?

 

 

 

 

[videotech_]

Well, at least I've learnt a thing or two on GTAFourms today.   It was evident the game was upgraded massively in the final release. I've compared the trailers with the final PC version in 2020 and I found a HUGE number of upgrades made to the textures, building models, detail on NPCs, vehicle models received a massive boost in quality, etc. But anyway I'll leave it there.

[Len Lfc]

32 minutes ago, VideoTech said:

Well, at least I've learnt a thing or two on GTAFourms today.   It was evident the game was upgraded massively in the final release. I've compared the trailers with the final PC version in 2020 and I found a HUGE number of upgrades made to the textures, building models, detail on NPCs, vehicle models received a massive boost in quality, etc. But anyway I'll leave it there.

Hey, look. I think we're all on the same page. And I'd rather not let any potential misunderstandings spiral out into anything more. I was simply talking about pre-release images vs the original PS3/360 release. I'd like to apologize if I came across badly or poorly. Let's all agree to blame Rockstar for not giving us anything, leading us to this dumb speculation and discussion lmao 

[Kerminator369]

36 minutes ago, VideoTech said:

Well, at least I've learnt a thing or two on GTAFourms today.   It was evident the game was upgraded massively in the final release. I've compared the trailers with the final PC version in 2020 and I found a HUGE number of upgrades made to the textures, building models, detail on NPCs, vehicle models received a massive boost in quality, etc. But anyway I'll leave it there.

I also don’t like my favorite product being criticized 

[videotech_]

 

6 minutes ago, Kerminator369 said:

I also don’t like my favorite product being criticized 

Me too. 

[BAGS00]

[Zapper]

[Americana]

1 hour ago, VideoTech said:

Well, at least I've learnt a thing or two on GTAFourms today.   It was evident the game was upgraded massively in the final release. I've compared the trailers with the final PC version in 2020 and I found a HUGE number of upgrades made to the textures, building models, detail on NPCs, vehicle models received a massive boost in quality, etc. But anyway I'll leave it there.

They cut trees, tho.

[D T]

6 hours ago, VideoTech said:

When it comes to Rockstar Games they always improve the final versions of their titles.

[videotech_]

This Forum is sure my main source of entertainment tonight. 

[videotech_]

23 minutes ago, Americana said:

They cut trees, tho.

 

WE ARE MAKING BIG PROGRESS. RESULTS START TO COME IN NEXT WEEK. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

[CynicalMexican]

28 minutes ago, D T said:

 

I really wish there were more neighborhoods like this in Los Santos. Even Stilwater had more suburban areas.

[MaccerKuntPaul]

6 hours ago, Len Lfc said:

I don't think they can. Bringing the trees back would mess with custom created jobs and such, I think.

we have map changes already. if you load up a creator job the map goes back to 2013, original casino, no bunkers and all

 

 

just watching this, i did not recognize the windfarm area with all of the trees, they really do add another layer of immersion 

Edited August 30, 2021 by MaccerKentPaul

[mathhead]

49 minutes ago, D T said:

Jokes aside: 

 

[inwaves]

3 hours ago, Ash_735 said:

It would be nice if they restored the ones where it feels empty or at the very least, brought back the Cherry Blossom's.

Cherry Blossoms, you say? I didnt know more were cut. I love the one near trevors airfield, always felt special

[MaccerKuntPaul]

5 minutes ago, inwaves said:

Cherry Blossoms, you say? I didnt know more were cut. I love the one near trevors airfield, always felt special