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I find the story of Bass Reeves to be totally fascinating. Imagine what it must have been like to be a black lawman in Arkansas in the 1880s. His wikipedia article reads like a video game origin story. Apparently escaping from his enslaver during the Civil War and fleeing to the Indian Territories. Learning the ways and languages of native Americans before eventually being deputised by the U.S. Marshals.

 

I mean, come on. Western tropes are definitely feeling tired in 2020, but this would be a very fresh perspective on things.

 

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I personally, unlike others, would like to see a spin-off centered around Jack Marston, a young but talented and dreamy man being forced to fight in World War I, which conflicts with his moral values of hating the US government. After an ambush he deserts and ends up alone in war-torn Europe, trying to survive and find his place on the world. The Epilogue would be set in 1917 with him moving to Russia at the time of the Russian Revolution, while being a rabid socialism supporter and getting hired by the communists to work as a double agent in the States, stating he'd rather fight for a new homeland than the one that took everything from him, while becoming more and more numb to death and killing upon seeing all the horrors during the war and ironically doing the same thing his father did, just for a different bidder. This might not be called Red Dead Redemption 3, but something like Red Dead Warfare.

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For me, the main story it's told, time to move on from it and make something different

I cannot wait for another RDR game so I started writing the story of my Online character (not taking RDO as canon)

Red Dead Redemption: Silver Outlaw

New territories east of the Lannahechee river (I know it's not technically the west anymore but hey): New Albany, Lannahechee and Elizabeth would be the states

New Levett would be the city and Woodford, Buckhead, Emerald, Paradise and Coldwater the towns

An outlaw gang (obviously with a new cast of characters)

It would be 5 Chapters and an epilogue

I'm halfway done with it, same with the map

 

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Well if its gangs earlier years before story of rdr2 leading to the blackwater then i bet we would play as the guy we never saw in the game. i think hes name was Mac,, and maybe he really didint die like hes brother Davey did in beginning of rdr2 and he has hes own story continuing after somewhere else separeted from the gang.

 

Native spinoff of the red dead series would be the most great though. Playing as native warrior defending hes tribe from the white men.

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1870's-1880's

 

Please no more of the Van Der Linde gang. I want a new cast of characters. Also set it in another part of the country please no more of the same map.

 

I wouldn't mind multiple protagonists. Maybe even have a US Marshal protagonist along with an Outlaw protagonist.

On 6/3/2020 at 10:17 PM, KGBeast said:

We've gotten the full spectrum of character archetypes. Red the virtuous bounty hunter, John the reformed outlaw, and Arthur the pure outlaw. To me there's not much left to be said in the western setting, at least the way Rockstar says it. And with Dan gone, meh I'd really prefer they not mess with it.

We haven't been the lawman.

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I’d like to see them do something a little different. The birth of the Old West. Set somewhere between 1855 and 1862, maybe have time progress through then so we can see the lead up to and early parts of the Civil War and how it had an influence on the expansion west. Since the ‘Redemption’ title seems to be focused on Dutch’s gang, it could have us play as Arthur’s father. Or if they want to go a more classic ‘height of the Old West’ story, could have us play as a young Dutch or Hosea around the mid-late 1870s, to show the founding of the gang and what led those two to becoming the men they were. 
Or they could make one set in the last frontier, Alaska during the gold rushes of 1900-1910. Have John be a minor character, because he and his family went to Alaska for a few years between 1899 and 1907. 

 

What I’d REALLY like is to move away from the Redemption saga and make a totally new standalone entry, though. 1890s South Africa, during the Boer wars and southern African gold and diamond rushes. All the classic Western tropes were there, except instead of native americans its african tribesmen, instead of cougars it’s lions and leopards, instead of wolves its hyenas, and instead of bears its elephants and rhinoceros and hippopotamus. 

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5 hours ago, éX-Driver said:

 

 

What I’d REALLY like is to move away from the Redemption saga and make a totally new standalone entry, though. 1890s South Africa, during the Boer wars and southern African gold and diamond rushes. All the classic Western tropes were there, except instead of native americans its african tribesmen, instead of cougars it’s lions and leopards, instead of wolves its hyenas, and instead of bears its elephants and rhinoceros and hippopotamus. 

If they're going to do a different country I'd rather see Australia. Australia had it's own period similar to the Wild west with Bushrangers. But idk if that would be as popular.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushranger

 

I'd rather they'd keep it in the US.

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There are different time periods that would fit the game well.Some that I'd like to see:

-early 1850s California during the Californian gold rush-This time period would possibly feel more like 1998 and 2005 Zorro movies (with swords used alongside early revolvers and rifles) than a true wild west story,but if done well I think it has potential to be interesting.

-American civil war-they could do something similar to The Good, The Bad And The Ugly,focusing on a story of the main character while the war happens to be going on in the background,and the protagonist could get involved if he thinks he could use it to achieve his personal goals.

-1870s and/or 1880s-seeing as RDR 2 shows the wild west era about to end and RDR 1 shows it pretty much ending,it would be cool to see the wild west era during it's golden age.We could even see the early days of Dutch's gang in this time period.

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I think the next installment of Red Dead should go further back in time, 1885-1860s or even further to 1775-76. Playing an outlaw during the Civil War days would be fun. There's a lot of history to be told and it doesn't necessarily have to be in Wild West. They just need to explore a different part of the country and there would be countless non-canonical opportunities.

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On 8/16/2020 at 9:25 AM, GTA-Biker said:

There are different time periods that would fit the game well.Some that I'd like to see:

-early 1850s California during the Californian gold rush-This time period would possibly feel more like 1998 and 2005 Zorro movies (with swords used alongside early revolvers and rifles) than a true wild west story,but if done well I think it has potential to be interesting.

Seconding this- maybe 1850s-60s California during the late Gold Rush + the recent Mexican-American war/Revolution of Ayutla + the ongoing Indian Wars would be very interesting in terms of story-telling dynamics, and offers a lot in terms of unique landscape opportunities. 

 

Rockstar would need to start again with a fresh roster of characters, but they might be able to slip in a few cameos here and there (i.e. Uncle, Hosea, a younger recast Landon Ricketts, Rains Fall). Since the land and society are still far less defined in that era, I would personally like a character that's more of a lone wanderer, and like what @Platypus92 said, freer to choose between pursuing a life of good or evil. Their fate is player-determinate, yet so similarly to many others- they ultimately fade away and become part of the legends and tales of the old West. Moreso, Native Americans were still more numerous during this era and could be actual factions- there could be extant tribes roaming the inland portions of the map.

 

Just reposting this image someone on this forum made- I would actually prefer cutting out RDRII's states, while retaining New Austin (making the parts west of Hennigan's Stead an untamed no-man's land recently lost by Mexico) and expanding Mexico to include a new state to the south.

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You could have a more Spanish-influenced Southern California with missions and huge ranchos (and vaqueros), and a bustling San Francisco-analogue at the midpoint with fictionalized gold rush mansions on the hills, and a waterfront built out of discarded ships:

 

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To the north, you could have towering stands of redwoods being logged, and the lingering gold rush activites:

 

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To the southern interior northwest of New Austin, you could have a Death Valley analogue, with huge sand dunes and salt flats:

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And of course, A Sierra Nevada/Yosemite stand-in north of that:

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South of the border, Mexico (following the recent loss of New Austin and still recovering from the Mexican-American war) could have a second, more developed state attached to it, including a larger colonial-style city:

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And a wetter climate with towering volcanoes:

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On 8/17/2020 at 11:44 AM, Jimmy said:

I think the next installment of Red Dead should go further back in time, 1885-1860s or even further to 1775-76.

1775-76 isn't the old west at all wtf... You need to look at a history book man.

 

The furthest I think they can go would be the 1840's during the Mexican American war and the California gold rush.

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58 minutes ago, Zello said:

1775-76 isn't the old west at all wtf... You need to look at a history book man.

 

The furthest I think they can go would be the 1840's during the Mexican American war and the California gold rush.

I don't want them to go to wild west if it wasn't clear from my post about 1775-76. The years of Independence would have a nice watch for a game. 1885 is my favorite year in American Wild West history (not because of Back to the Future). My point is that they could go some years back into wild west of go even further to 100+ years and to a different kind of story that doesn't necessarily need to be wild west.

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I don't want them to go to wild west if it wasn't clear from my post about 1775-76. The years of Independence would have a nice watch for a game. 1885 is my favorite year in American Wild West history (not because of Back to the Future). My point is that they could go some years back into wild west of go even further to 100+ years and to a different kind of story that doesn't necessarily need to be wild west.

Then that wouldn't be Red Dead at all...

 

Red Dead has always been a western. A game set in the American Revolutionary war is not.

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1 minute ago, Zello said:

Then that wouldn't be Red Dead at all...

 

Red Dead has always been a western. A game set in the American Revolutionary war is not.

Yes, I get the point. But there's only so much story you can drag under a certain title and make up. You're bound to hit a wall sooner or later (or maybe R* has amazing writers who won't and go all the way until RDR5). Maybe it'd make some sense to make a different historical game that isn't Red Dead, somewhere down the future.

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On 8/21/2020 at 7:00 AM, jje1000 said:

Seconding this- maybe 1850s-60s California during the late Gold Rush + the recent Mexican-American war/Revolution of Ayutla + the ongoing Indian Wars would be very interesting in terms of story-telling dynamics, and offers a lot in terms of unique landscape opportunities. 

Yup, this is the time period during which the next Red Dead should take place, I wish. In contrast to the End of The Wild West theme of the Redemption series, we instead play during the initial phase of the Myth of The Old West period. Great post showing some of the locations that could be featured in the game, and hopefully we can get it in this decade, probably as a PS5 game.

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I’d would like to see the next iteration of the story to be around Jack and his redemption as a person and working out his future in the new west. 

I just feel that the stories current ending is so pitiful as throughout the whole narrative of RDR1 and RDR2 it has been about family and surviving and now as we know it Jack is left all alone and meaningless. I’d love to see his character develop on his own seeing how he lives on after his experience in the gang and the events of RDR1. 

 

It doesn’t have to take place too much longer after the end of RDR1 so can still hold on to some of the authentic Wild West themes.
 

Plus there’s the option to bring back characters like Bonnie and Sadie. Could see them working together really well. I couldn’t see Charles coming back from Canada should he have a family there. Maybe something from Karen, perhaps she doesn’t die as suggested and we find her somehow. A returning Trelawny would be great too.

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As much as the certain answer would be a sequel about Jack Marston, I don't want a full standalone game revolving around that. However, if Red Dead Redemption ever gets to be remastered, a DLC revolving around Jack would be swell as many say, Jack's story doesn't come full circle. I'd like to see something like this:

 

After finishing off Ross, Jack is on the lam and is forced to follow an outlaw lifestyle to survive. He acquaintes himself with many of the miserable pawns in the dying Wild West (as @odke mentioned, members of the now defunct Van Der Linde can make appearances as well). Seeing much gore and bloodshed numbs the young Jack down, but he eventually acknowledges that it's all pointless and once the glorious outlaw lifestyle is dying - finally catching up with his late old man in terms of philosophy. In the end, he redeems his actions by one last deed and decides to call it quits. (EPILOGUE) Wanting make something out of himself, Jack enlists to the army and fight in the World War I. However, even being a prized war hero doesn't fill the hole inside Jack (because he does things that he's ashamed of there, too) . To battle this nihilistic urge, he begins working on a novel based around his life experiences.

 

On 8/3/2020 at 11:37 PM, Copcaller said:

I'd like to see it take place right after the civil war while the wild west was in it's prime and no Dutch's gang let's feature a new cast.

I second this. The premise of this setting would be good enough for a solid, purposeful story that RDR traditionalizes. Better yet, I think that the multi-protagonist system could work fine for depicting Wild West after the American Civil War. Just a slip of my mind but something like this would sell on me:

 

  • First protagonist: Son of a now dead slave master and plantation owner. The result of the civil war has been harsh on the protagonist: He has lost his wealth, prestige and everything. Angered by this turn of events, he resorts to cold-blooded crimes to survive and eventually becomes an unflinching outlaw. Soon later, he realizes how hard life is for everyone and acknowledges that his belief system is all wrong and how his family had done wrong. So, he begins to build himself more as a "Robin Hood" style good samaritan, still seeking to an illegal lifestyle to achieve that.
  • Second protagonist: Civil War veteran and former Union soldier. Became a bounty hunter after the war. He starts out as a lawful neutral man with his own codes and morals, loved and respected by many. However, seeing what life is about eventually turns him into a bitter, self-seeking, violent sociopath - merely a shadow of his former self. His character development is a contrast to the first protagonist.
  • Third protagonist: A runaway slave with a mysterious past, acquired "freeman" status after the civil war. Even though it's a good change, life isn't still perfect for the protagonist. He's wandering the Wild West mindlessly, doing anything to survive and trying to find his place in this ambigious world. He's the central protagonist, a balancing stone between the two other protagonists. More like the P.O.V guy of the story. 

I think it would be good if the interaction between these protagonists would be a mix of GTA IV and V. In the beginning, their paths cross from time to time. But as the story progresses, they'd see each other more: Their stories, interests and purposes have more in common and they bump into each other more... maybe eventually forming a true friendship, "friends with benefits" kind of relationship or pure bad blood. And a prologue portion of the story can be set during the Civil War, that should be pretty interesting. 

 

I also agree with Dutch's gang not taking the spotlight. However, I'd like it if they make cameo apperances, or have minor to supporting roles in the upcoming title. 

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On 10/16/2020 at 6:25 PM, Naughtius Maximus said:

As much as the certain answer would be a sequel about Jack Marston, I don't want a full standalone game revolving around that. However, if Red Dead Redemption ever gets to be remastered, a DLC revolving around Jack would be swell as many say, Jack's story doesn't come full circle. I'd like to see something like this:

 

After finishing off Ross, Jack is on the lam and is forced to follow an outlaw lifestyle to survive. He acquaintes himself with many of the miserable pawns in the dying Wild West (as @odke mentioned, members of the now defunct Van Der Linde can make appearances as well). Seeing much gore and bloodshed numbs the young Jack down, but he eventually acknowledges that it's all pointless and once the glorious outlaw lifestyle is dying - finally catching up with his late old man in terms of philosophy. In the end, he redeems his actions by one last deed and decides to call it quits. (EPILOGUE) Wanting make something out of himself, Jack enlists to the army and fight in the World War I. However, even being a prized war hero doesn't fill the hole inside Jack (because he does things that he's ashamed of there, too) . To battle this nihilistic urge, he begins working on a novel based around his life experiences.

 

I second this. The premise of this setting would be good enough for a solid, purposeful story that RDR traditionalizes. Better yet, I think that the multi-protagonist system could work fine for depicting Wild West after the American Civil War. Just a slip of my mind but something like this would sell on me:

 

  • First protagonist: Son of a now dead slave master and plantation owner. The result of the civil war has been harsh on the protagonist: He has lost his wealth, prestige and everything. Angered by this turn of events, he resorts to cold-blooded crimes to survive and eventually becomes an unflinching outlaw. Soon later, he realizes how hard life is for everyone and acknowledges that his belief system is all wrong and how his family had done wrong. So, he begins to build himself more as a "Robin Hood" style good samaritan, still seeking to an illegal lifestyle to achieve that.
  • Second protagonist: Civil War veteran and former Union soldier. Became a bounty hunter after the war. He starts out as a lawful neutral man with his own codes and morals, loved and respected by many. However, seeing what life is about eventually turns him into a bitter, self-seeking, violent sociopath - merely a shadow of his former self. His character development is a contrast to the first protagonist.
  • Third protagonist: A runaway slave with a mysterious past, acquired "freeman" status after the civil war. Even though it's a good change, life isn't still perfect for the protagonist. He's wandering the Wild West mindlessly, doing anything to survive and trying to find his place in this ambigious world. He's the central protagonist, a balancing stone between the two other protagonists. More like the P.O.V guy of the story. 

I think it would be good if the interaction between these protagonists would be a mix of GTA IV and V. In the beginning, their paths cross from time to time. But as the story progresses, they'd see each other more: Their stories, interests and purposes have more in common and they bump into each other more... maybe eventually forming a true friendship, "friends with benefits" kind of relationship or pure bad blood. And a prologue portion of the story can be set during the Civil War, that should be pretty interesting. 

 

I also agree with Dutch's gang not taking the spotlight. However, I'd like it if they make cameo apperances, or have minor to supporting roles in the upcoming title. 

I wouldn't mind a cameo from a young dutch or Hosea but yeah their story is more or less wrapped up. I like the idea of the multiple protagonists and how it'll gradually work up to their friendship.

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I want RDR3 to be its own thing. As much as I love RDR2 part of me wishes its story was self contained without any connection to The Van Der Linde gang.

 

Ideally I think it should be set during the peak or start of the Wild West since we seen the West in its dying days the last couple of games.

 

I even think a change from the typical “cowboy” is needed. Why not a freed/escaped black slave ala Django Unchained, a Mexican or even a Native American? I just feel a different perspective would really freshen things up.

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I don't think Red Dead 3 should necessarily follow up in the previous stories, it can be done with completely new characters,other eras and other locations which have plenty to offer.

 

If we are staying in America I have two settings in mind, one during the early/golden age of the wild west. Texas, New Mexico and the like with small towns and an endless desert. No railways that could serve as a sign of civilization, just the outlaws, the settlers and natives. An other great US setting could be the California during the gold rush. As others have stated a runaway slave, a vaquero or a native american could all be great protagonist for either of these settings. If Rockstar was brave enough to leave the US then Mexico, Argentina or Australia would make for great locations. Vaqueros, gauchos and bushrangers could be great protagonists in their respective countries.

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Zero excitement for RDR3, and thats mostly testament to how good RDR1 & RDR2 were

 

What is there left than to ride horse in a slightly different environment

 

The core experience would still be same and 300+ hours was enough for me

 

At least for now

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