George Floyd

[make total destroy]

The only 'leaders' of BLM are self-appointed and usually only 'leaders' because they have a megaphone lmao. Nobody votes for these people, or declares them representatives. Some of them come from radlib 'socialist' orgs like PSL, some don't. It really varies from place to place, but they are almost always, with few exceptions, working hand-in-hand with the police. There's a few groups in NYC that are basically attempting to assume leadership of protests and guide them on the march to nowhere, using liberal identity politics as a tool of counter-insurgency, to drive a further wedge between militant protesters and people that just want to hug cops. They are pushing for less militancy, not more. To suggest that this whole movement is being led by 'Marxist leadership', or that it is 'ideologically Marxist' is laughably absurd and borderline conspiratorial. At this point, the movement has largely moved away from being a spontaneous, leaderless uprising, to a defanged, co-opted, liberal NGO sh*tshow where everyone sings kumbaya until city council votes for some milquetoast police reforms that just provide police departments with even more money. Or even worse, as a front for electoral campaigns. Would be cool if the movement had still retained it's militancy, but sadly, the liberals have seen to that.

[KADENZA]

As hundreds of thousands of Black Lives Matter demonstrators take to the streets across the world to protest the recent killing of George Floyd, international recording artist Eddy Grant strikes a very different and sombre note.  Like he has done with the lyrics of his many emblematic protest songs over the last 50 years - ‘Police on My Back’ (performed by The Clash and many other politically conscious artists), ‘War Party’, ‘Living on the Frontline’, ‘Preaching Genocide’, ‘The Struggle’, ’Race Hate’, ‘Gimme Hope Jo’anna’, and ‘Reparation’ that have been resistance soundtracks to white racism and economic injustice, Grant aka The Message Man, rips off the band-aid ‘we’re all in this together’ to confront ‘the unpleasant historical elephant in the room’ – the systematic dehumanization of Africans and people of African descent at the hands of the white colonial powers for 500 years.

 

In this thought-provoking monologue, ‘A Change Is Going To Come’, Grant again puts it on the line, mindful of the possible backlash to his career as an artist from his white fans and friends alike.  But as he says, ‘if not now, then when.”  

Grant who is the international spokesperson for the Guyana Reparations Committee says “if there is going to be a change, let there be a change of significant proportions. Let there be a change where white people, those in particular who have benefited from the Slave Trade, let them now decide that they have a pang of conscience, that they will now deal substantially with the issue of REPARATIONS.”

This is not a Hollywood type ‘Dear White People’ conversation because Grant is not mincing words. He is forthright as he is unflinching in his resolve that “African enslavement and that which came with it and white empowerment is the last unresolved issue in this world today.”

 

Take some time out to listen to Eddy Grant: ‘A Change Is Going To Come.’  Keep your hearts and minds open. This is a time for us all to make real change!

 

 

[Bucky Calvera]

Powerful speech. Listened to about 2:30 in the video before realizing this guy is just another proud holder of a race card. @ 3:00ish he speaks some nonsense about how it's Africans, and not blacks. Elon Musk is an African-American. It's a fact, he was born in Africa and later on became American. If you are born in America, you are AMERICAN. African is not a race, it's a nationality. Why do these fools hold an allegiance to Africa? Majority of countries over there are complete lawless sh*tholes.

Even BLM leaders affirmed that peaceful protesting is not enough, thus condoning all the violence from those "protesters." Makes you think that BLM surely stands for Burn Loot Murder, cause that is what has been happening in every major city with protests.

Why do BLM protests only happen when a white cop kills a black person? Other lives don't matter?

And why does BLM mostly protest killings of a scumbag criminals? e.g. Michael Brown, Rashard Brooks (who was especially a nasty individual), and so on. Why they don't protest kids being killed by their own so often? Are there racist cops in our country? Absolutely. But there is not even a shred of evidence of a systematic racism. Barack, first ever black president certainly didn't thought so. Didn't introduce a single police/crime bill reform in his 8 years. Now there's Biden, who's been in politics for way too long. 36 years senator, 8 years VP and blames Trump for America's problems. Guy who boasted about co-writing the 1994 crime bill, which placed hundreds of thousands of black people in jail for minor offenses, now thinks he is the savior of oppressed minorities.

I dunno... Not a big fan of Trump, I think he's got huge ego and a very thin-skinned character, but I will still will vote for him come November. Lesser of two evils principle.

[Raavi]

1 hour ago, Bucky Calvera said:

I dunno... Not a big fan of Trump, I think he's got huge ego and a very thin-skinned character, but I will still will vote for him come November. Lesser of two evils principle.

In what dimension is Trump the lesser of two evils? 

[LegitimatePride]

4 hours ago, Raavi said:

In what dimension is Trump the lesser of two evils? 

In what dimension is Biden the lesser of two evils? As far as I know, when you google him, you hear nothing but bad news about him.

Edited July 11, 2020 by LegitimatePride

[sivispacem]

1 hour ago, LegitimatePride said:

In what dimension is Biden the lesser of two evils? 

For one, he hasn't presided over the largest rolling back of American civil liberties since McCarthyism. 

[Bucky Calvera]

10 hours ago, Raavi said:

In what dimension is Trump the lesser of two evils? 

In a dimension where logic supersedes emotions.
Biden is just an awful candidate, imo DNC screwed Bernie twice now. Although the later had much better chances of beating Trump.
Ol' Joseph is quite creepy as well, talking about kids running their hands through his leg hairs, coming up from behind and sniffing on women...
As aforementioned he is a co-author of that crime bill too. Something he was very proud of at that time, doesn't seem to mention it nowadays.
At least Trump is coherent. Biden at one point literally forgot the name of the president under whom he has served as vp. Something is not right with that guy's mental health, and it shows during just about every appearance that he makes.

 

[Raavi]

1 hour ago, Bucky Calvera said:

imo DNC screwed Bernie twice now

Regardless of the merits of this statement, which are highly debatable in and of themselves - how exactly does this relate to the notion of Biden being the worse "evil"?  

 

1 hour ago, Bucky Calvera said:

Ol' Joseph is quite creepy as well, talking about kids running their hands through his leg hairs, coming up from behind and sniffing on women..

Ah the tired old "creepy uncle Joe" meme. Lets ignore the fact that the actual parents of the children actually seem to applaud it and see it for what it is. Let's also ignore the long long line of sexual misconduct allegations and downright bizarre behaviour on Trump's part with his own daughter.

 

1 hour ago, Bucky Calvera said:

As aforementioned he is a co-author of that crime bill too. Something he was very proud of at that time, doesn't seem to mention it nowadays.

The 80's and 90's were a different time in criminal justice politics. A rising crime rate, the early era of the disastrous war on drugs all marred by the doctrine of "nothing works".  The bill passed 95–4 in the senate with overwhelming bipartisan support. Quite a few of the "Yea's" remain senators to today. The notion of it being wholly attributable to Biden is silly and historical revisionism. 

 

1 hour ago, Bucky Calvera said:

At least Trump is coherent.

Do you watch his speeches with earplugs in? 

 

1 hour ago, Bucky Calvera said:

Something is not right with that guy's mental health, and it shows during just about every appearance that he makes.

I agree. Have you seen the guy try to drink water? Walk down a ramp? Hell, even try to stand up straight? Something is obviously awry with him. 

 

1 hour ago, Bucky Calvera said:

In a dimension where logic supersedes emotions. 

Funny you should say that when the vast majority of what you are actually saying is purely based on emotion and your own biases.

[Lock n' Stock]

3 hours ago, Bucky Calvera said:

Something is not right with that guy's mental health, and it shows during just about every appearance that he makes.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1281073806233214978

[sivispacem]

3 hours ago, Bucky Calvera said:

At least Trump is coherent. 

This has to be some sort of joke. He's basically a living manifestation of Word Soup. An ordinary punter speaking like him in public would get sectioned on the spot.

[sivispacem]

1 hour ago, Lock n' Stock said:

 you vote for what your instinct tells you to.

Sadly most people's instinct is sh*t. 

[Smith John]

6 hours ago, sivispacem said:

Sadly most people's instinct is sh*t. 

Something tells me this weren't your sentiments on the morning of 04/11/08, or the morning of 06/11/12.

[sivispacem]

15 hours ago, Smith John said:

Something tells me this weren't your sentiments on the morning of 04/11/08, or the morning of 06/11/12.

I never said my instinct wasn't sh*t. That's why I like to examine things rationally and empirically. 

[Lock n' Stock]

So the full bodycam video has been released.

 

 

[D T]

The only new bit of information here is the pigf*ck drew a firearm on him before he had any reason to do so, further confirming what an absolute c*nt the officer is. The mental gymnastics conservatives are performing to proclaim this justifies his murder is astoundingly stupid.

Edited August 7, 2020 by D T

[Bucky Calvera]

If only that dude listened to cops and comply. Kneeling on his neck once he was handcuffed was unnecessary. But he put himself into that position, should've listened to his friends and stayed in the back of a police car.

Also, I found it astounding how many people took the side of a criminal scumbag. That fool is pretty much a black jesus now.

[Raavi]

Let's put it this way, that footage isn't doing the prosecution's case any favours. At most I can see the main guy getting convicted albeit for a lesser charge. The case against the other three is dead in the water. I also do not understand the decision to not immediately release this bodycam footage. It would have spared a lot of people a world of hurt.

[REVENGE777]

5 hours ago, Bucky Calvera said:

 I found it astounding how many people took the side of a criminal scumbag. That fool is pretty much a black jesus now.

Because he was murdered in broad daylight by the people there sworn to protect and serve us. You obviously haven’t been paying attention to anything anybody has been saying.  I don’t care what he did, what happened to him was WRONG. if that happened to a 40 year old white man in a suit you’d be sick to your stomach, but for black people, it’s just another Tuesday.

[Bucky Calvera]

Oh for f*ck's sake. Police are sworn to protect and serve us from the scumbags like him. Multiple armed robbery convictions, including pointing a gun at a pregnant woman, multiple drug possession charges, disorderly conduct etc., Stop race baiting, I don't give a single f*ck about his skin color, if he was a white dude he'd still be a criminal scumbag!

[REVENGE777]

1 hour ago, Bucky Calvera said:

Oh for f*ck's sake. Police are sworn to protect and serve us from the scumbags like him. Multiple armed robbery convictions, including pointing a gun at a pregnant woman, multiple drug possession charges, disorderly conduct etc., Stop race baiting, I don't give a single f*ck about his skin color, if he was a white dude he'd still be a criminal scumbag!

The police aren’t the judge jury or not executioner. It doesn’t matter what he did because In that moment, they didn’t know him from a hole in the wall. they had no knowledge of his criminal history and they killed him in the street. It’s not race baiting, it’s the reality of the world we live in. if we were concerned about rehabilitation instead of damnation maybe we’d have less repeat offenders but that’s a different story.

 

the point is, none of that sh*t you said was relevant when he was killed. He was just another black man on the street. And they treated him like one.

[Bucky Calvera]

48 minutes ago, SonofLosSantos said:

The police aren’t the judge jury or not executioner. It doesn’t matter what he did because In that moment, they didn’t know him from a hole in the wall. they had no knowledge of his criminal history and they killed him in the street. It’s not race baiting, it’s the reality of the world we live in. if we were concerned about rehabilitation instead of damnation maybe we’d have less repeat offenders but that’s a different story.

 

the point is, none of that sh*t you said was relevant when he was killed. He was just another black man on the street. And they treated him like one.

As I've pointed out already multiple times, him being killed, already handcuffed face down, that was unnecessary.
But they did recognized him from his previous scuffles with the law, so they knew he was a criminal.
If it were up to me, anyone who've threatened a pregnant woman should be shot right on the spot.
You know who Tony Timpa is?
He is the white dude who was killed by cops in a very similar manner as George in 2016 (except he wasn't a convicted felon, and did not resist arrest). No protests, no outrage from such morally upright people such as yourself. Why? He was white.
There is no evidence of George Floyd being racially profiled and killed. If anything that recent bodycam footage shows that he was given plenty of chance to comply with the police, and he chose not to.

[REVENGE777]

8 hours ago, Bucky Calvera said:

As I've pointed out already multiple times, him being killed, already handcuffed face down, that was unnecessary.
But they did recognized him from his previous scuffles with the law, so they knew he was a criminal.
If it were up to me, anyone who've threatened a pregnant woman should be shot right on the spot.
You know who Tony Timpa is?
He is the white dude who was killed by cops in a very similar manner as George in 2016 (except he wasn't a convicted felon, and did not resist arrest). No protests, no outrage from such morally upright people such as yourself. Why? He was white.
There is no evidence of George Floyd being racially profiled and killed. If anything that recent bodycam footage shows that he was given plenty of chance to comply with the police, and he chose not to.

He’s from Texas, he’s not even from Minneapolis so how could they recognize him? Using whataboutisms to dismiss police brutality is pretty low brow.

[Smith John]

That Muhammad bloke was a bit of a cock too!

[TwistOfLime21]

I don’t see anyone approving of what of the cops done in this situation, however the body cam footage does change things a bit. 
 

The officer was talking with George and being nice to him. George was saying he couldn’t breathe before he was on the ground when he obviously could, so when he says it again while on the ground, I can see why the cop ignores it. This goes against the narrative being pushed that the officer was racist and intentionally killed him. 
 

He clearly didn’t deserve to die but he doesn’t deserve to be glorified either. 
 

As for those dorks out in the street. They don’t care for George. They’re simply using him as an excuse to commit criminal activity. 

Edited August 16, 2020 by TwistOfLime21

[REVENGE777]

Nobody is glorifying him. I wish y’all would stop tryna push that damn narrative. WE didn’t pick that man, THEY killed him and it wasn’t right, so that’s why he’s the guy. They stood on his neck for damn near 10 minutes and he died. THATS why he’s our guy. Because NOBODY deserves that. Why can NONE OF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

[gooeyhole]

On 8/11/2020 at 12:23 PM, Mister Pink said:

And look, my data is thrown together. But that's my point. How do you measure, who owes what for reparations? And then to forcibly receive reparations with violence, theft and damage, indiscriminately against people and then claim "these businesses are insured." The lack of empathy these looters have to the lives they are damaging, while simultaneously trying to get people to empathize with them is a double standard and is an oxymoron. 

Empathy is irrelevant when any criticism towards your movement is seen as a low status opinion. Anyone who even crosses that line slightly has to preface it with a groveling apology, or reference to their legitimate struggle. The rioters are empathetic and virtuous by default. 

[D T]

It's comically disingenuous to dismiss this movement as looters breaking into charity houses when the vast majority of them have marched peacefully. This hyperfixation on the outliers of their movement while gleefully ignoring the fact that protesters have been black bagged by our federal government and victims of excessive force all throughout these marches shows exactly where your priorities lay. You'd think a forum full of folks who obsessively played games like GTA growing up wouldn't be so keen on licking the boots of government sh*theels quite literally violating their first amendment rights.

 

On 8/15/2020 at 6:10 PM, TwistOfLime21 said:

I don’t see anyone approving of what of the cops done in this situation, however the body cam footage does change things a bit. 
 

The officer was talking with George and being nice to him. George was saying he couldn’t breathe before he was on the ground when he obviously could, so when he says it again while on the ground, I can see why the cop ignores it. This goes against the narrative being pushed that the officer was racist and intentionally killed him. 
 

He clearly didn’t deserve to die but he doesn’t deserve to be glorified either. 
 

As for those dorks out in the street. They don’t care for George. They’re simply using him as an excuse to commit criminal activity. 

Riddle me this homie, how is it that a trained officer with an IQ above 51 couldn't piece together that kneeling on a man's neck for 7 minutes straight with his full body weight as he pleaded for his life wasn't murder? Let me know man. You're totally right about those dorks out in the street though. I mean look at this guy.

 

 

I can't believe it. He's painting a mural for a victim of police brutality on a piece of plywood, while the billionaire funded conservative talking head threatens to call the police on him. A good call if you ask me! He was clearly feigning his passion for this movement and planning on looting the business afterwards right? Either way I do appreciate your valuable input seeing as you understand better than anyone the motivations and struggles of black americans as you sit at your computer in Australia.

[Slappy212]

https://www.claimsjournal.com/news/national/2020/07/06/298012.htm#:~:text=Rioting set off during protests,a single retailer%2C he said.

 

25 million in property damages and 30 people have died during the riots. Seems like a bit more than outliers to me. Didn't this whole thing start because of a senseless death in the first place? Yeah, BLM and Antifa are radicals. They aren't helping one bit. I'm all for police reform, but if you think rioting and anarchy is the right way to go about it you're nuts. 

Edited August 22, 2020 by Slappy212

[REVENGE777]

27 minutes ago, Slappy212 said:

https://www.claimsjournal.com/news/national/2020/07/06/298012.htm#:~:text=Rioting set off during protests,a single retailer%2C he said.

 

25 million in property damages and 30 people have died during the riots. Seems like a bit more than outliers to me. Didn't this whole thing start because of a senseless death in the first place? Yeah, BLM and Antifa are radicals. They aren't helping one bit. I'm all for police reform, but if you think rioting and anarchy is the right way to go about it you're nuts. 

The violence stops when the brutality stops. Let this be a lesson learned.

[Standard Deluxe 59]

6 hours ago, SonofLosSantos said:

The violence stops when the brutality stops. Let this be a lesson learned.

So violence with violence that has only gotten worse in cities that have either rolled back their police force numbers or have begun cutting funding to their departments is a lesson learned? Causing millions of dollars in property damage from theft and vandalism along with making innocent people the victims of said damage and theft is somehow a lesson? Because of the actions of a very small minority of police officers, it's okay to take out those frustrations on other people, who had nothing to do with the incident at hand, taking out frustrations on their businesses, their possessions, their livelihoods, that's okay to you?