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Kevin Green

Many things are missing in GTA IV, I made a list.

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Kevin Green

These things are missing don't know why:-

 

1) We cannot drive the Subway train

2) we cannot see the driving cabin of subway train

3) we cannot move inside the subway train nor can we interact with NPC inside the train. We also cannot move from one compartment to another inside the subway train.

 

4) New York City has so many huge malls. But Still Gta IV only showed only one single mall " Big Willis". That too inaccessible. Instead they made so many houses and apartments. I mean it would have been better if they deleted houses and instead added more malls.

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Posted (edited)
35 minutes ago, Kevin Green said:

These things are missing don't know why:-

 

1) We cannot drive the Subway train

2) we cannot see the driving cabin of subway train

3) we cannot move inside the subway train nor can we interact with NPC inside the train. We also cannot move from one compartment to another inside the subway train.

 

4) New York City has so many huge malls. But Still Gta IV only showed only one single mall " Big Willis". That too inaccessible. Instead they made so many houses and apartments. I mean it would have been better if they deleted houses and instead added more malls.

1) Why would you wanna drive the subway train?
2) I don't think that's an interesting enough feature to majority of players.
3) Why would you like to do that? You can do it at the station if you want.

4) I accept it should have had malls and more enterable buildings other than just the restaurants and some other places.

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40 minutes ago, Gettin up said:

1) Why would you wanna drive the subway train?
2) I don't think that's an interesting enough feature to majority of players.
3) Why would you like to do that? You can do it at the station if you want.

4) I accept it should have had malls and more enterable buildings other than just the restaurants and some other places.

1) it is always interesting to drive subway trains just like in SanAndreas it is a interesting feature. Maybe we can drive much faster than usual speed of Subway or maybe we can halt/stop the train without a station. Also it will be unique to hijack the train driver.

 

2) it is an interesting feature, just think you will be able to look at all the passengers inside the train and hit them while they are trapped and can't escape until the station comes. Look in GTA 5 it was possible and it looked good. And there should be a option to sit or stand in the subway as and when we feel like.

 

3)but  moving in a running train makes it more thrilling.

 

 

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Algonquin Assassin

I wouldn’t mind being able to move around inside of the trains, but don’t care about driving them.

 

As for malls don’t care either.

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Lucas wester
3 hours ago, Kevin Green said:

These things are missing don't know why:-

 

1) We cannot drive the Subway train

2) we cannot see the driving cabin of subway train

3) we cannot move inside the subway train nor can we interact with NPC inside the train. We also cannot move from one compartment to another inside the subway train.

 

4) New York City has so many huge malls. But Still Gta IV only showed only one single mall " Big Willis". That too inaccessible. Instead they made so many houses and apartments. I mean it would have been better if they deleted houses and instead added more malls.

obviously you have a special interest in trains

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Kevin Green
32 minutes ago, Lucas wester said:

obviously you have a special interest in trains

Yes indeed

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TheSantader25

I think there are far more important things missing in the game than subway trains and malls. 

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gooeyhole

A mall at the expense of the different apartment buildings would be a sh*tty trade off for me. Having some dramatic Joker or Collateral type train skirmishes would have been great though I agree. Also, an MSG copycat arena would have been nice.

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Kevin Green
1 hour ago, TheSantader25 said:

I think there are far more important things missing in the game than subway trains and malls. 

Yeah we can't even pee, poop, wash hands, have a bath/ shower, brush, open refrigerator or cook foods. 

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KGBeast

I think these are ok ideas actually. Better than the usual suggestions from the SA kiddies. 

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Legion of Hell
8 hours ago, Kevin Green said:

These things are missing don't know why:-

 

1) We cannot drive the Subway train

2) we cannot see the driving cabin of subway train

3) we cannot move inside the subway train nor can we interact with NPC inside the train. We also cannot move from one compartment to another inside the subway train.

 

4) New York City has so many huge malls. But Still Gta IV only showed only one single mall " Big Willis". That too inaccessible. Instead they made so many houses and apartments. I mean it would have been better if they deleted houses and instead added more malls.

So "many" things are missing

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AmigaMix

You gave me a scare! When I saw the thread, I thought R* broke more sh*t.

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8 hours ago, Kevin Green said:

3) we cannot move inside the subway train nor can we interact with NPC inside the train. We also cannot move from one compartment to another inside the subway train.

I kinda like that idea, something like this would have made for a unique mission.

 

 

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Outlaw Biker Viking

The train ideas are pointless. However, I actually wouldn’t mind having a shopping mall in a GTA game. Just one though. Not multiple.

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Official General
On 5/11/2020 at 3:56 AM, Kevin Green said:

These things are missing don't know why:-

 

1) We cannot drive the Subway train

2) we cannot see the driving cabin of subway train

3) we cannot move inside the subway train nor can we interact with NPC inside the train. We also cannot move from one compartment to another inside the subway train.

 

4) New York City has so many huge malls. But Still Gta IV only showed only one single mall " Big Willis". That too inaccessible. Instead they made so many houses and apartments. I mean it would have been better if they deleted houses and instead added more malls.

Not bothered about any of these. What important things I felt was missing were :

 

* Entering and robbing 24-7 convenience stores like in V. 

* Buses in traffic and being able to use a bus to travel (can be fixed with simple mods on PC though).

* Random shootings and carjackings in the streets, particularly in rough areas. 

* Buying safehouse properties. 

* Sports stadium

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Algonquin Assassin
22 hours ago, Official General said:

Not bothered about any of these. What important things I felt was missing were :

 

* Entering and robbing 24-7 convenience stores like in V. 

* Buses in traffic and being able to use a bus to travel (can be fixed with simple mods on PC though).

* Random shootings and carjackings in the streets, particularly in rough areas. 

* Buying safehouse properties. 

* Sports stadium

Yeah.

 

These things would've been more important especially buses spawning in traffic and more random crime like carjackings, shootings etc.

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TheSantader25
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Things that annoyed me were these:

 

- No Planes

- No parachutes(vanilla IV) 

- No underwater swimming

- Lack of melee weapons

- Low Quantity in firearms(fixed in EFLC) 

- No vehicle customization

- Unique vehicles like the bus and tow truck not existing. 

- Not being able to buy safehouses. 

- No Well Stacked Pizza

- Lack of options for customizing Niko's appearance(clothing, haircuts,...) 

-No invincibility cheat

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Americana
Posted (edited)

True, these are not available in Grand Theft Auto IV.

 

But... these are not nearly as necessary as awesome characters, plot, vehicles, physics and Liberty City.

 

In my opinion, Grand Theft Auto IV is missing a lot of good, simple features, which could be seen in Mafia (2001), but that's okay. 

 


 

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Algonquin Assassin
5 hours ago, TheSantader25 said:

Things that annoyed me were these:

 

- No Planes

- No parachutes(vanilla IV) 

- No underwater swimming

- Lack of melee weapons

- Low Quantity in firearms(fixed in EFLC) 

- No vehicle customization

- Unique vehicles like the bus and tow truck not existing. 

- Not being able to buy safehouses. 

- No Well Stacked Pizza

- Lack of options for customizing Niko's appearance(clothing, haircuts,...) 

-No invincibility cheat

The funny thing is if this was a couple of years ago I'd feel inclined to knuckle down and explain why it doesn't matter that these things weren't included, but the more time that passes the more I start to agree with you. How things work out in the end aye?;)

 

There are a couple of things that don't bother me too much like planes, underwater swimming etc, but things like customisation do.

 

While we're at it since the ball's rolling a lack of suppressors has always bothered me. Like GTA IV is almost perfect in how it portrays Niko as a hired gun/assassin, but not being able to equip a suppressor is a big failure IMO. Think of missions like Final Interview and cool it would've been to put a bullet in Goldberg's head Agent 47 style with a silenced pistol or even really most missions where we could've opted for a stealthy approach since their design is built for it. It just....makes me cry a little inside.:(

 

Sometimes I think this is even bigger than not having planes, parachutes etc because while I understand how those things are bothersome to some people something as seemingly simple as suppressors tie directly into Niko's character and what he's expected to do from his employers as they would expect him to do a clean job with as little fuss as possible. NOT having this is something I've always found strange on R*'s behalf.

 

 

Oh and of course GTA IV not having fingerless gloves and realistic steak loses a couple of cool points too.

:ph34r: 

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Nappy

I would like flying planes tbh. I don’t have a problem with the firearms or the weapons we can use. About not being able to use a silenced pistol, i agree it could be better to carry one as it would suit Niko.

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On 5/10/2020 at 9:56 PM, Kevin Green said:

4) New York City has so many huge malls. But Still Gta IV only showed only one single mall " Big Willis". That too inaccessible. Instead they made so many houses and apartments. I mean it would have been better if they deleted houses and instead added more malls.

This is the only complaint I can get honestly. Just imagine all the details and police rampages we could've had if something like The Shops at Columbus Circle was accessible.

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i'd love to have a mall in GTA IV. imagine all of the shops you could access. there could be clothing stores, restaurants, bars, video game arcades, and more. imagine going to burger shot at the food court, and the cashier says "welcome to burger shot mo-f*ckaaaa!" it would be difficult to program though, because it would be densly packed and you'd have to create so many stores

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Algonquin Assassin
7 hours ago, Payne said:

I would like flying planes tbh. 

The only types of planes I think would be alright would be seaplanes. I'm not one of these people who thinks 9/11 was the reason planes weren't included, but I think conventional planes and especially jets would be useless for the setting (As it currently sits and not withstanding that GTA IV was supposed to have Liberty State during development where planes would've made more sense) as there's only one airport and it's a primarily urban environment where helicopters are more agile and useful for maneuvering in and around buildings and such. I can't think of too many majority city based open world games that have planes and it's probably for this very reason. Seaplanes like Vice City and VCS though would've been fine.

 

At the very least I would've liked some more helicopters and parachutes instead of being saved for TBOGT.

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Jeansowaty

I firmly believe there should have been a 3rd weapon tier in GTA IV like in other GTA games. It could have had these:
-Pool Cue
-Silenced Pistol
-SPAS-12
-TEC-9
-no idea, I don't think the Ruger fits very much

-Silenced Sniper Rifle
-Heavy Machine Gun or Minigun
-Tear Gas

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HOW'S ANNIE?
21 hours ago, Jeansowaty said:

I firmly believe there should have been a 3rd weapon tier in GTA IV like in other GTA games. It could have had these:
-Pool Cue
-Silenced Pistol
-SPAS-12
-TEC-9
-no idea, I don't think the Ruger fits very much

-Silenced Sniper Rifle
-Heavy Machine Gun or Minigun
-Tear Gas

I think weapon variety is definitely quite a genuine criticism of the game. Even Vice City had more weapons than vanilla IV. Luckily this was made a bit better by the episodes, but it's a shame you're unable to play any version of the game with every weapon at your disposal.

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TheOriginalGunslinger

I actually love the camera inside the subway train. It’s got a unique feel to it followed by the screeching of the rails from the train which gives it the gritty vibe about it.

On 5/20/2020 at 2:20 AM, Jeansowaty said:

I firmly believe there should have been a 3rd weapon tier in GTA IV like in other GTA games. It could have had these:
-Pool Cue
-Silenced Pistol
-SPAS-12
-TEC-9
-no idea, I don't think the Ruger fits very much

-Silenced Sniper Rifle
-Heavy Machine Gun or Minigun
-Tear Gas

Agreed!


Speaking of weapons I wish some of the weapons (hell, all of the weapons that were in the DLC Episodes) were in IV.

 

More specifically this big boy...

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Jeansowaty
3 minutes ago, TheOriginalGunslinger said:

I actually love the camera inside the subway train. It’s got a unique feel to it followed by the screeching of the rails from the train which gives it the gritty vibe about it.

Agreed!


Speaking of weapons I wish some of the weapons (hell, all of the weapons that were in the DLC Episodes) were in IV.

 

More specifically this big boy...

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All of them should have been in a complete edition of GTA IV. But Cockstar doesn't care about their fans so... nope. Only mods can save us.

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