Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk IX

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Flash FM said:

that doesn't matter, it gives you half the value of the one you are trading in, regardless of what property you are buying

Huh but it’s worth 120k just tried to trade regular that’s 60k so it depend on the apt

[MekhiSkyline]

@MrPhillips Ah man there would be riots

Edited November 12, 2020 by Michael Patton

[Wastelander (Suzuki)]

7 hours ago, FuturePastNow said:

Why does Unit 76 Greenwich Parkway have a trade in value almost 10x its sale price ($120k)?

 

 

Seems Rockstar learned from Turn 10. This and the Casino Chip one never passed the smell test, that sh*t was a purposefully done honey pot, no one will ever change my mind. Turn 10 did the same thing with the so called "Unicorn Cars" on Forza Motorsport 3 and 4 on the auction house by making the starting bid and buyout prices beyond what a normal player could pay, "999,999,999CR" basically, and anyone that paid that price won 1st place in the banhammer lottery. To sum up these extremely easy money glitches: 

Edited November 13, 2020 by Wastelander (Suzuki)

[ddarko12]

2 hours ago, maximilian_gor1 said:

 

You want a real fast obey, huh? HUH ???

THAT´S A FAST OBEY:

That would work too lmao. Anything older and well done will.

[Non Funkable Token]

2 minutes ago, MrPhillips said:

Regarding Heist Task, i think that Rockstar will give us free vehicle no matter what. Not hitting the goal would get bunch of people mad, that's bad publicity.

Yep. I just can't picture them acknowledging that the playerbase didn't meet the goal, or even getting away without saying a word about the "free car" they mentioned before. Pissing the fans of a 7 year old game over a free car sounds really dumb.......

[Spider-Vice]

Pretty sure the community will meet the goal either way until DLC release or whenever they plan to give us this new car.

[VitoCorleone1992]

10 hours ago, MGgames100 said:

Might remind people of this lil tid bit. There was cut room from Casino DLC called Show Room. It was either movie theater or stage for live shows, just like a lot of casinos have irl. We actually have a minimap of it, but it doesn't tell us much. Seems like it was either unfinished or was meant to look like it was unfinished (you know, it would be under construction, but they probably decided that big-ass empty room might be suspicious, so they've cut it).

 

I actually feel like it will be added it the next update, either as an extra (for example look at the new arcades added in last update) OR (more likely imo) as a planning room for the next heists. Why would we start heist in the casino you might ask?

well...

  Reveal hidden contents

 

let's say unfair competition
 

 

That makes sense.

11 hours ago, Disclolume said:

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10 hours ago, thecoolfattykid said:

A small speculation: Us robbing the casino might have f*cked up the casino cashflow in someway and we have to do heist to get the bring in the money. There's an expansion to the casino and since the cashflow got disrupted we have to bring in the money. This will also explain why there's construction going

 

10 hours ago, Tez2 said:

These new teases work similarly to the Casino teases back in the day.

This first tease is labelled as the first week, so more teases are coming in the following weeks.

If we assume there are four phases of teases corresponding to four weeks of teases, we could presume the update is releasing on the second week of December, which lines up with the podium list selection suggesting a release date no earlier than December 3rd.

 

10 hours ago, Piro said:

Ok guys, chill the f*ck out. Here's my theory: It's a red herring.

I've been saying for a loooong time that there's an extra wing in the casino that was never opened/used before (opposite side to the horse racing)


So my guess is they expanding the casino for some reason. Maybe its an Arcade room? Maybe they finally adding pool tables / air hokey / bowling / minigolf etc? All the things we wanted from the Casino before it was released.

Keep it mind that this DOESN'T mean its gonna be the main theme of the next DLC. I think its just a red herring.

Maybe its gonna be a room that adds all the new minigames from the island? Maybe that room gonna be a part of the setup of the new heist? We don't know. 

And teasing a new room in the casino is way easier than teasing a new location like a new island, right? Cause how the f*ck could they even tease that? 
 

Exactly. And just because they expending the casino dosn't mean its the main focus of the next dlc. Might as well be just a bonus, or a tiny part of the new story. 

Piro, stop right there...new games inside the casino like pool tables/air hokey, bowling, etc.? PLEASE NO! At least no if that means: new games that 40% of people can't play bcz is inside the damn casino and then it counts as "a casino game", the same sh*t that happens with the lucky wheel  that you don't waste a dime, but for some f*cked up reason the players with gambling restrictions can't spin the wheel!

About that new room...probably willo be some concert room, restaurant, etc., a lot of casinos have that. Thus that hint of "i can feel it coming in the air tonight", means that we are getting a concert room.

But, isn't the "inside that we don't have acess in free roam" just the interior of the casino during the heists? If you do the adv modes series of the casino, for example, Every Bullet Count, you can enter that doors and the place is just the interior of the casino heist.

9 hours ago, Piro said:

I don't think removing the most recent DLC makes much sense... why would they remove content that they worked so hard to make? What about the people who never played it or finished the heist even once?

Also I don't think it makes much sense to make a third DLC in a row focused around the casino... From marketing point of view, thats really stupid. Huge % of people would just ignore it thinking its the same thing they already seen before, right? Not to mention all the people who can't even use the casino in their country. So I'm 100% sure its not gonna be the main focus of the new dlc. Its just a red herring. 
 

Yes. Also its not a troll is they srsly adding a new wing to the casino. Doesn't mean its gonna be the main theme of the next dlc tho. Might be a red herring cause they know we been talking about the island for MONTHS before they decided to officially announce it. 
 

Cool. Maybe next tease will be completely unrelated to the casino. 
 

Planning room at the same floor where regular people can enter? Seems unlikely. Unless they adding a new wing with new minigames + underground lair for heisting.

Would make senes, biggest paywall they ever made. Buy the penthouse and the arcade before you can even buy the new heisting room under the casino to unlock the new location/new island.

First, what's a damn "red herring"?

Second, DID YOU GUYS LOST YOUR MIND?! WHY WE ARE EVEN TALKING ABOUT A "PLANNING ROOM" INSIDE THE CASINO?! THE CASINO BELONGS TO DUGGAN, SO, IF SOMETHING IS BEING CONSTRUCTED THERE, MEANS IT WAS HIM THAT GAVE THE ORDER. SO, WHAT? "HERE FOLKS, I'M BUILDING A HEIST ROOM PREP FOR YOU GUYS ROBBING ME EVEN MORE!" LMAO.

7 hours ago, MrARCO said:

I would really like a new radio station purely made for Synthwave/Chillwave. HOME, Timecop1983, Emil Rottmayer, Voyager etc.

 

 

3 hours ago, ddarko12 said:

Hmm... finally hype building some more for this new update. I hope y'all work hard on them heists so we can see what this "special" new vehicle is I have to admit I am getting hyped. We're likely just a month away and it's gonna go fast. I cannot wait.

Then, help us. Do heists also. Play again the game.

13 minutes ago, MrPhillips said:

Regarding Heist Task, i think that Rockstar will give us free vehicle no matter what. Not hitting the goal would get bunch of people mad, that's bad publicity.

Yeah...imagine that newswire post: "well...about that exclusive vehicle, forget about it, we appreciate your efforts as a community but you didn't reach the amount."

Edited November 12, 2020 by VitoCorleone1992

[Xiled]

33 minutes ago, Cash 4 Clickbait said:

Even so, in my experience with Rockstar support as well as what I've seen from other posts, it's clear Rockstar can access a record of what activities you've been doing and how much you got paid. I'm willing to bet that when it comes to their anti-cheat system, they can temporarily add a very specific parameter should a mass money glitch like Lester's Locate a Plane Refund, Casino Chips Cashout or the Property Trade-In glitch start spreading among the community.

 

Example;

IF

Player SELLS property_x AND Trade-In_Value = OR > property_x_cost

THEN

redflag Player

 

And then, once the glitch has been hotfixed, someone on the account management side of things, calls up every player who got red flagged all at once and issues a Reset All Accounts command.

 

That's the way it goes now. Might not be true, but it'll certainly deincentivize people who think they can get away with it then bitch when they get reset.

Most glitches were not set up like those 3 to scare regular players into not glitching. If glitches like that keep getting added, players will glitch, play with all the stuff for 2 weeks, get reset, and repeat. The smart ones didn't do the super easy glitches. Couple of us knew they were gonna do something about it eventually. 

[Black-Dragon96]

39 minutes ago, PhilPerlmutter said:

I really have enough money, so not interested, but would be really pathetic of rockstar to reset or ban people for this.

Well it WAS really f*cking pathetic of R* to ban people because of that thing since at the time it looked like something they f*cked up.

Considering it popped up again, this time with a diffrent property (last time it was Unit 2 Popular Street if I remember correctly), I honestly believe that is a deliberately laid out bait to catch and reset people who do moneyglitches. And that would be even more f*cking pathetic considering that they are doing jacksh*t against scriptkids or any other tryhard abused glitch that does not affect their bottomline.

 

[MrPhillips]

@VitoCorleone1992

Maybe Duggan found out who was robbing Casino, kidnaps GTA Online protagonist and Lester, orders them to plan the Heist of the Cheng Casino & Resort at the Island couple of miles away from the Los Santos. And gives them free planning room.

[Butter Toast]

This room isn't even for us... it's just a champagne room for Tom.

[MrPhillips]

Guys, what if Duggan kidnaps Georgina, forces Lester to work for him in order to destroy Merryweather and Don Percival. Don Percival probably has private island.

[PH Ukracheski]

R *, in the initial announcement of the year-end updates for RDO and GTAO, mentioned '' THE GREATEST UPDATE OF ALL TIMES FOR GTAO, IN A COMPLETELY NEW LOCATION ''. At no time did they mention an expansion of the map. It can be a new building on the map, or an existing one completely renovated (as with Diamond). The island is a mere speculation by the community, it was never officially mentioned or leaked, and honestly in my opinion, I don't think an expansion of the map is what is coming. But ... as the ad said it is something big, so we can only trust!

[MrPhillips]

1 minute ago, PH Ukracheski said:

R *, in the initial announcement of the year-end updates for RDO and GTAO, mentioned '' THE GREATEST UPDATE OF ALL TIMES FOR GTAO, IN A COMPLETELY NEW LOCATION ''. At no time did they mention an expansion of the map. It can be a new building on the map, or an existing one completely renovated (as with Diamond). The island is a mere speculation by the community, it was never officially mentioned or leaked, and honestly in my opinion, I don't think an expansion of the map is what is coming. But ... as the ad said it is something big, so we can only trust!

Come on, entirely new location isn't just an old renovated location. It should not be. They'll fall so much in the eyes of the fans if they get caught lying. GTA V on PS5 was enough for the fans. We don't need more unpleasant surprises. That's why i believe in something big.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, MrPhillips said:

Come on, entirely new location isn't just an old renovated location. It should not be. They'll fall so much in the eyes of the fans if they get caught lying. GTA V on PS5 was enough for the fans. We don't need more unpleasant surprises. That's why i believe in something big.

Believing and hope is dangerous my friend plus why would rockstar need to impress there’s no competition to gta online or red dead online so what lease are people going to play 

[Zak Ras]

6 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

Second, DID YOU GUYS LOST YOUR MIND?! WHY WE ARE EVEN TALKING ABOUT A "PLANNING ROOM" INSIDE THE CASINO?! THE CASINO BELONGS TO DUGGAN, SO, IF SOMETHING IS BEING CONSTRUCTED THERE, MEANS IT WAS HIM THAT GAVE THE ORDER. SO, WHAT? "HERE FOLKS, I'M BUILDING A HEIST ROOM PREP FOR YOU GUYS ROBBING ME EVEN MORE!" LMAO.

Bear in mind, none of the Diamond staff actually know we're the ones who Heist them successfully, and at the end of the initial Casino Story, Thornton Duggan himself makes us an off-the books head of security which is the justification behind calling Agatha for Casino Work nd why he fired Vincent.

 

Now that doesn't mean the Casino WILL have anything to do with the main Heist of Heists 4 and this could instead be an update to the Casino Heist itself that's releasing with Heists 4.

 

Either way, the Casino will be altered with Heists 4, but for what purpose? Well, we'll find out in a few weeks regardless so, best not to get too hung up on what it could be.

[PhilPerlmutter]

17 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

Well it WAS really f*cking pathetic of R* to ban people because of that thing since at the time it looked like something they f*cked up.

Considering it popped up again, this time with a diffrent property (last time it was Unit 2 Popular Street if I remember correctly), I honestly believe that is a deliberately laid out bait to catch and reset people who do moneyglitches. And that would be even more f*cking pathetic considering that they are doing jacksh*t against scriptkids or any other tryhard abused glitch that does not affect their bottomline.

 

That is true, although I must admit it is probably very difficult to make a game hack proof, especially with this peer to peer design GTA Online uses.
It is not a huge problem for me anyways because I mainly grind and do not really see GTA Online as a PvP game, when I am in a lobby with someone the people with me are only friends.
Way more annoying for me personally are the bugs that really make it difficult for me to play the game, especially missions, not speaking of the connection iussues (which might be one of the causes for certain bugs to appear).
These would be way more easy to fix  and R* are capable to fix them as you can see always when they fix glitches that are an advantage for the player.
With the trap you could be really right btw...

Edited November 12, 2020 by PhilPerlmutter

[El Cavilldo]

R* gathering player names and patterns of glitches and exploits, after luring us with the Apartment Glitch and the $100 Billion Heist Challenge:

 

Edited November 12, 2020 by El Cavilldo

[MrPhillips]

Wait, if casino gets altered, does that mean that Casino Heist will also be altered. Correct me if i am wrong, they're renovating waste disposal. What if they just make the Casino Heist way more harder with these new renovations (kinda makes sense, security upgrade due to the increased robberies). That would be a bummer.

[PH Ukracheski]

9 minutes ago, MrPhillips said:

Come on, entirely new location isn't just an old renovated location. It should not be. They'll fall so much in the eyes of the fans if they get caught lying. GTA V on PS5 was enough for the fans. We don't need more unpleasant surprises. That's why i believe in something big.

I know, but we must not forget that the PS5 and Xbox Series X / S will still receive a standalone and improved version of GTAO next year, so in my opinion if any map expansion is released, it will be for that standalone version in the new generation .

[SparingDonkey30]

If they are altering the Casino Heist itself by nerfing waste disposal, I guess it wouldn't be too bad considering we are getting a new heist anyway. If the new heist is JUST the Casino Heist made more difficult.... Yeah, definite bummer.

Edited November 12, 2020 by SparingDonkey30
Further explanation.

[rlm_gta]

I stand with @MrPhillips, an entirely new location is not a normal new location like they have said a lot of times, that could be a new part in a building or something like that, entirely is a very hard statement implying that is something new in every sense, and this could be the first and last map expansion in current gen versions of the game and then more expanded things would come in the next gen versions due of better hardware, basically the same as GTA Online original Heists that was the biggest and last major update for PS3/Xbox 360, because the real last one was Ill Gotten Gains Part 1 and 2

Edited November 12, 2020 by rml_gta

[MayoChiki]

2 hours ago, Hazzardtohimself said:

Agatha's Mind-Blowing-Orgy Basement

wtf i love rockstar now

[VitoCorleone1992]

4 minutes ago, MrPhillips said:

@VitoCorleone1992

Maybe Duggan found out who was robbing Casino, kidnaps GTA Online protagonist and Lester, orders them to plan the Heist of the Cheng Casino & Resort at the Island couple of miles away from the Los Santos. And gives them free planning room.

Hum...it's a possibility, but...idk...look, here is what i think: If R* is giving us a new island, it would make snese for the use of the words of their newswire "the biggest update ever". So, a new island would be enough material and focus for people direct their attentions for that. So, the question is: why adding stuff to the casino that is just a "extra thing" to the concept of "the biggest update ever?" And if the answer is: "bcz R* wants to make a better experience for the players, to enjoy something new, not only in a new island, but also in the old island". Then you can make the assumption: "ok, seems plausible". But then, you start to think: "wait...since why R* gives us free stuff to in free roam just for leisure? Would they initiate such a endevour to present us with something fun like, let's say, a new games room, like billiards, air-hockey, etc., when then don't even open the free roam places that have interior like Tequi-la-la and Bahamas, just bcz, they don't want us enter in a place where they can't put or didn't had plans before, of making it some building that uses playwalls in order to get player's money?"

But then, the f*cking curiosity...if a new island will be a thing, maybe a new paywall interior that can be a new bussiness for us in the old island, wouldn't distract the main focus of the new island? Or maybe not, depends, if that place is connected with the new island, but idk if that wouldn't be way too much stuff even for R* that said that they are making the "biggest update ever".

Then, a new free roam building/activity or a new bussiness, brings some important questions:

1. Is a new games room with leisure activities for us to use, that not focus the "stress" of the other proper casinos gambling games like pokwer, blackjack? Then billiards, for examples? But if so, will it have a bet mechanics? If so, maybe 40% will be f*cked and will not be able to play them, bcz, we can't even spin the freaking wheel that's free, just bcz is inside the casino, i guess. So, even if those games didn't had any bet mechanics, would everyone being able to play them?

2. If it's just a restaurant/concert room, comedy club, etc., just for entertain us...would it even make sense, since, like i said, all the places that could give us that and that are already in the game are closed, like Tequi-la-la and Bahamas? That doesnt make to much sense, since R* is interestedin making money via paywalls...or maybe it's something that Duggan wants to inaugurate in order to trying to help himself get their finances well again, since all those casino robberies, then, since he likes enough money to finance and mantain that place (restaurant, concert room) they need a bussiness partner, us.

3. I thought in another possiblity: somehow the Chengs got the Casino again and Duggan went to a new island with a new casino, or just a big ass mansion, but the Chengs want to make a final blow in his bussiness/life style/status, and then they give us a prep room inside the casino, that can come along a new bussiness like a restaurant/concert room and in the "cave" we get the planning room.

4. Maybe Duggan is broken and want to sell his casino to someone with enough money and crazy enough to try to take hands onto a casino that's been always robbed, so that crazy and rich person would be us.

Note: what i know, using just logic, is that it's not a new prep room for robbing the casino, even less if the casino still is in the Duggan ownership. He would not make a prep room to people rob him, lmao.

[MrPhillips]

1 minute ago, SparingDonkey30 said:

If they are altering the Casino Heist itself by nerfing waste disposal, I guess it wouldn't be too bad considering we are getting a new heist anyway.

You got that right. And barely anyone uses waste disposal. Most of us uses stuff lobby.

[US Marshal1911]

12 minutes ago, MrPhillips said:

Regarding Heist Task, i think that Rockstar will give us free vehicle no matter what. Not hitting the goal would get bunch of people mad, that's bad publicity.

The goal will more than likely be completed the first night or next morning to be honest. The math of it seems so simple, $2.5M take from the casino 40,000 times is $100B; plus all the other heists going on

[Halal Cyborg]

It is odd that there is an office computer in your penthouse that currently serves no purpose... 

[SparingDonkey30]

On second thought, it looks like the waste disposal door and keypad IS still there.. 

[MrPhillips]

@VitoCorleone1992

There are thousands of possibilities, that's why i am so hyped to see what's it actually.

Also, maybe Phil Collins bought something at the casino and now he's renovating, and we'll work for him.

Edited November 12, 2020 by MrPhillips

[PH Ukracheski]

Somebody tell me, where did the speculation for an island expansion come from?