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Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk IX  

425 members have voted

  1. 1. When do you think the next update is going to be REVEALED?

    • October
      16
    • November
      197
    • December
      201
    • January
      11
  2. 2. When do you think the next update is going to be RELEASED?

    • Earlier than December
      20
    • December
      382
    • January
      11
    • Later
      12
  3. 3. Where do you think the new heist will take place?

    • A tropical casino island (e.g. inspired by Catalina Island)
      120
    • A new city or town, or a part of it (e.g. GTA SA's Liberty City bit)
      47
    • We goin' LC bois and gals, Three Leaf Clover style!
      49
    • "New location" is all lies, just a random place in the existing GTA V map!
      209
  4. 4. What do you think will be the highest possible payout for the new heist?

    • < GTA$2M
      84
    • GTA$2M - GTA$3M
      148
    • GTA$3M - GTA$4M
      108
    • GTA$4M - GTA$5M
      48
    • > GTA$5M
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The Jungz
1 hour ago, Standard Deluxe 59 said:

Maybe an unpopular opinion but if we were to get another city added for the re-re-re-release I'd rather it be somewhere that hasn't been revisited yet instead of LC. Why not somewhere like Las Venturas or San Fiero? They've had quite a long time to work on somewhere else but I know it's very unlikely that they had.  

 

Still, I'd bank on the "new location" being just some existing building we can't presently enter. 

Yes but the amount of work needed to bring LC up to GTA V standards would take quite the effort, let alone building an entirely new map the size of RDR2+.

 

I'd personally be more satisfied if Liberty City was added instead of an island south of LS just because LC has such a different atmosphere than Los Santos. Switching between the two would make things much less tiresome and breathe new life into the game. Also, for a fan of GTA IV like me, the return of LC would mean 'exploration' mixed with nostalgia and newfound discovery but it could also mean newer players (some that might have not even been born in 2008) could explore this city for the first time. 

 

That would have more impact than an island with mansions and not much else, to me at least.

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Retro_Causality
Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

Yeah i know. I was just saying that we shouldn't expect nothing come before hallowen week.

I mean the Heists trailer was released in December 2014 while the actual update didn't come till March, so it was promoted 3 months before release

 

 

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On 10/3/2020 at 6:39 PM, Yan2295 said:

There's 1 thing I really like about GTA V's map, and that is landscapes. 

Landscaping DLC confirmed.

 

Finally we will be able to own this bad boy in Online:

 

latest?cb=20161018180609

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VitoCorleone1992
49 minutes ago, Retro_Causality said:

I mean the Heists trailer was released in December 2014 while the actual update didn't come till March, so it was promoted 3 months before release

 

 

AS far i know that dlc was post-poned bcz they didn't met the deadline bcz was a lot to do in order to not come full of bugs adn glitchs, that's why R* didn't announced anything too sooner after that happened.

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1 hour ago, Retro_Causality said:

I mean the Heists trailer was released in December 2014 while the actual update didn't come till March, so it was promoted 3 months before release

 

 

the orig. heist got announced even before the game itself came out.

so i don´t think they want the same drama again

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HamwithCheese
1 hour ago, Retro_Causality said:

mean the Heists trailer was released in December 2014 while the actual update didn't come till March, so it was promoted 3 months before release

6 years is a lot of time. 

 

2014, gtao needed players.

 

2020, gtao prints money.

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Standard Deluxe 59
2 hours ago, The Jungz said:

I'd personally be more satisfied if Liberty City was added instead of an island south of LS just because LC has such a different atmosphere than Los Santos. Switching between the two would make things much less tiresome and breathe new life into the game. Also, for a fan of GTA IV like me, the return of LC would mean 'exploration' mixed with nostalgia and newfound discovery but it could also mean newer players (some that might have not even been born in 2008) could explore this city for the first time. 

I mean yeah I'd prefer a revamped LC over a little island because yeah there's more to see and it won't get stake as quickly. I wouldn't mind getting a mansion in Alderney though like the one Pegorino had if my memory serves me right. But as far as whatever next gen holds, I'd still like to see the rest of San Andreas revamped since it somewhat of makes sense to be nearby and it hasn't been redesigned. 

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Posted (edited)
16 hours ago, The Jungz said:

Yes but the amount of work needed to bring LC up to GTA V standards would take quite the effort, let alone building an entirely new map the size of RDR2+.

 

I'd personally be more satisfied if Liberty City was added instead of an island south of LS just because LC has such a different atmosphere than Los Santos. Switching between the two would make things much less tiresome and breathe new life into the game. Also, for a fan of GTA IV like me, the return of LC would mean 'exploration' mixed with nostalgia and newfound discovery but it could also mean newer players (some that might have not even been born in 2008) could explore this city for the first time. 

 

That would have more impact than an island with mansions and not much else, to me at least.

I could swear a lot of, seemingly trustworthy, people have come on here throughout the years claiming R* has been working on LC, or that they're already sitting on it since quite some time. Ever since that photo of an upgraded Middle Park was found in 2015. But who knows, right? I don't.

 

I completely concur about LC being the more satisfying option here. Although I'd be happy with anything new added to the game as far as geographical locations go, a "Catalina island" location just seems like more of the same to me. What's so great about LC is that it's an all-city map, with a totally different (almost opposite) vibe than LS. They didn't have to actively use everything LC had to offer, although they still kind of did, but the city just feels like a unit to me. That's where V's San Andreas fell flat for me - a lot of map variety and ultimately it wasn't used that much. A GTAO with both LS and LC would kind of being like having Yin and Yang.

 

The bottom line is GTA V's map has been so underused and a waste of potential as it is for these seven years. At this point going forward, I just don't see R* doing much (new stuff) with it either. Adding more of that same "landscape" seems like such a dull decision to me. One that won't give this game's playground a lot of extended longevity, at least IMO. I'd rather have R* touch up today's LS, upgrading it further from 2013 to 2020 and expanding it a bit, than adding something like Catalina island just for the sake of it. That's why we need LC or another completely new city in the HD universe. To create contrast and get the feeling of something truly new after seven years in LS and SA.

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7 hours ago, SummerFreeze said:

Landscaping DLC confirmed.

 

Finally we will be able to own this bad boy in Online:

 

latest?cb=20161018180609

 

 

I want one of these too:

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SparingDonkey30
2 hours ago, Watain said:

I'd rather have R* touch up today's LS, upgrading it further from 2013 to 2020 and expanding it a bit, than add something like Catalina island just for the sake of it.

YES.

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INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK

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24 minutes ago, Gridl0k said:

INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK

What if we just get the decoration crap from sp and we're all gonna be annoyed as hell for the next few weeks as we constantly plow our vehicles into planters / garbage bins / newspaper stands / park benches etc :kekw:

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11 hours ago, rollschuh2282 said:

the orig. heist got announced even before the game itself came out.

so i don´t think they want the same drama again

They released only 1.5 years after gtao released. :) There were those "heist" missions people made at the time that gave $150,000, but we're quickly removed. 

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5 hours ago, Killerman29 said:
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I want one of these too:

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I’d love a farming update! Harvesting the crops with the combine, spraying the fields with the Duster, delivering stock to meat factories and shooting trespassers with lever-action rifles. Just give me a tractor as a personal vehicle and I’ll think about doing a heist afterwards. :cool:

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22 minutes ago, xXxKAMIKAZExXx said:

I’d love a farming update! Harvesting the crops with the combine, spraying the fields with the Duster, delivering stock to meat factories and shooting trespassers with lever-action rifles. Just give me a tractor as a personal vehicle and I’ll think about doing a heist afterwards. :cool:

Only a few vehicles away from having a farmer update :) some of those tractors are in the millions 

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Retro_Causality

so what now?

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Cash 4 Clickbait
Posted (edited)
35 minutes ago, Retro_Causality said:

so what now?

Now we keep a low profile and get on with our lives.

 

Sorry, but given the recent speculation we've discussed I couldn't resist. Just countdown the next 11 Thursdays and see if the event week is worth your time each week, have a little fun trying guess what each event week will consist of based on the event week before it. Before you know it and when you least expect it, we'll get a reveal/tease, and you'll get there faster if you don't focus on each individual day.

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VitoCorleone1992
10 hours ago, Watain said:

I could swear a lot of, seemingly trustworthy, people have come on here throughout the years claiming R* has been working on LC, or that they're already sitting on it since quite some time. Ever since that photo of an upgraded Middle Park was found in 2015. But who knows, right? I don't.

 

I completely concur about LC being the more satisfying option here. Although I'd be happy with anything new added to the game as far as geographical locations go, a "Catalina island" location just seems like more of the same to me. What's so great about LC is that it's an all-city map, with a totally different (almost opposite) vibe than LS. They didn't have to actively use everything LC had to offer, although they still kind of did, but the city just feels like a unit to me. That's where V's San Andreas fell flat for me - a lot of map variety and ultimately it wasn't used that much. A GTAO with both LS and LC would kind of being like having Yin and Yang.

 

The bottom line is GTA V's map has been so underused and a waste of potential as it is for these seven years. At this point going forward, I just don't see R* doing much (new stuff) with it either. Adding more of that same "landscape" seems like such a dull decision to me. One that won't give this game's playground a lot of extended longevity, at least IMO. I'd rather have R* touch up today's LS, upgrading it further from 2013 to 2020 and expanding it a bit, than adding something like Catalina island just for the sake of it. That's why we need LC or another completely new city in the HD universe. To create contrast and get the feeling of something truly new after seven years in LS and SA.

If the addition of map expansions will going to be a thing, which i think it's far more realistic now since they will re-re-release the game for the next gen. But i don't think for performance sake, that they will had LC for the current gen, instead a new island near LS to end this current gen and possibly with mansions. It's a nice ending for the people who always asked for map expansion and mansions and will have that as a "present" for the end of this gen.

 

A small map expansion near LS will be a waters test for further and deeper map expansion, such as LC for next gen.

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A new map addition won’t be interesting without a fleshed out landscape. Take the ugly low-res textures off the buildings and it’s just a couple of miles of meaningless polygons your car can’t drive through. This is probably more of a next-gen/GTAVI thing but we need interiors. Not only that, but I can’t be greeted by three minutes of black screen or my system crashing every time I go inside of these interiors. Los Santos is empty and stale, and whatever they add will be too unless they touch things up and add more interactivity. 
 

We’re not going to get any of these things, so I’m not setting the bar high. I’d really like a change of scenery to take more pictures in at least, but I’m skeptical even of that. 

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philipg193
2 hours ago, Retro_Causality said:

so what now?

We wait, patiently.

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VitoCorleone1992
2 hours ago, —TheSquid— said:

A new map addition won’t be interesting without a fleshed out landscape. Take the ugly low-res textures off the buildings and it’s just a couple of miles of meaningless polygons your car can’t drive through. This is probably more of a next-gen/GTAVI thing but we need interiors. Not only that, but I can’t be greeted by three minutes of black screen or my system crashing every time I go inside of these interiors. Los Santos is empty and stale, and whatever they add will be too unless they touch things up and add more interactivity. 
 

We’re not going to get any of these things, so I’m not setting the bar high. I’d really like a change of scenery to take more pictures in at least, but I’m skeptical even of that. 

You reach the essence of the problem. We need more interiors with interactivity. And let's not put in the table the interiors with activities that we can own. Bcz:
1) that only happened basically just now, with the arcades, before that you had the nigthclubs that you couldn't do nothing but doing the same stuff you already could in the apartments: drink. And the dancing activity was lame bcz it's not even a mini-game.
2) They are lacking interiors that we can really interact with others players and with them make things together. If you had nigthclubs with drinking and dancing mini-games, you would had interactivity with other players, but it wasn't the case. The arcades have not a serious PVP, they could have, if they added arcades for 2 players PvP or Co-op, doesnt matter. The Casino was the only major interior that added real interaction with mini-games that serves a purpose to get rich (if that wasn't rigged as f*ck) but then again, you don't compete with other players which downgrades the casino games very much, not to mention that 40% of the population of that game can't acess that due to law restrictions.

That means that they need to add arcades with PvP or Co-op games, or you will be the only player that will be present in the place (your arcade), and that's another problem with interactive interiors that are personal properties: "everyone" have them and no one will gather in a single place when everyone who can afford an arcade can play in their own, individually. And add different interiors that aren't own by the players, like food-chains to restore your health, bars with drink mini-games and billiards, for example, etc. They can be personal bussinesses, but they can't lack that interactivity that require other players to join or those places will always give to the player a feeling of emptiness.

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9 hours ago, xXxKAMIKAZExXx said:

I’d love a farming update! Harvesting the crops with the combine, spraying the fields with the Duster, delivering stock to meat factories and shooting trespassers with lever-action rifles. Just give me a tractor as a personal vehicle and I’ll think about doing a heist afterwards. :cool:

mmm not a bad concept...

 

unpopular opinion but i'd like some sort of business that i actually have to get my hands dirty, maybe some minigame to get some sort of product done.

 

i know that the night club is like the perfect business model, just raking in millions while doing nothing but i dont know im kinda bored of the regular fetch-stock-sell business model we have.

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3 hours ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

You reach the essence of the problem. We need more interiors with interactivity. And let's not put in the table the interiors with activities that we can own. Bcz:
1) that only happened basically just now, with the arcades, before that you had the nigthclubs that you couldn't do nothing but doing the same stuff you already could in the apartments: drink. And the dancing activity was lame bcz it's not even a mini-game.
2) They are lacking interiors that we can really interact with others players and with them make things together. If you had nigthclubs with drinking and dancing mini-games, you would had interactivity with other players, but it wasn't the case. The arcades have not a serious PVP, they could have, if they added arcades for 2 players PvP or Co-op, doesnt matter. The Casino was the only major interior that added real interaction with mini-games...

 

That means that they need to add arcades with PvP or Co-op games, or you will be the only player that will be present in the place (your arcade), and that's another problem with interactive interiors that are personal properties: "everyone" have them and no one will gather in a single place when everyone who can afford an arcade can play in their own, individually. And add different interiors that aren't own by the players, like food-chains to restore your health, bars with drink mini-games and billiards, for example, etc. They can be personal bussinesses, but they can't lack that interactivity that require other players to join or those places will always give to the player a feeling of emptiness.

 

Everything about PvP you mentioned is probably what makes the game feel so lifeless. I don’t interact with players anymore unless it’s at car meets. It’s always been the case that other players would almost certainly shoot you on sight, but now every interaction is reduced to the press of one single button.

 

Not to fan the “Opressor bad” flames again, but all of the car chases and running from helicopters and hiding from jets is gone now and nothing has taken its place. As far as I’m concerned GTAO is a single-player game with a glitch that occasionally requires me to press the fire button on my Mk.II so I don’t instantly die. I can see an excuse for gambling being non-competitive, but the arcade games? I went into it thinking the whole point would be to play minigames with friends. They drove adversary modes into the ground with garbage payouts even though there are some incredibly fun ones that I’ll binge during double cash events. 
 

I just want something to bring me back. 
 

18 minutes ago, CarimboHanky said:

i know that the night club is like the perfect business model, just raking in millions while doing nothing but i dont know im kinda bored of the regular fetch-stock-sell business model we have.

Paramedic, taxi, firefighter and police work would add so much to the game’s replayability in theory. But knowing Rockstar, you’d have four missions for each job and half of them would require you to drive across the map for $20k. I can already imagine driving an ambulance from Los Santos to Paleto Bay even though there’s a hospital in Sandy Shores, then completely skipping the Sandy Shores hospital again so I can take the patient back to Los Santos. 

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5 minutes ago, —TheSquid— said:

Everything about PvP you mentioned is probably what makes the game feel so lifeless. I don’t interact with players anymore unless it’s at car meets. It’s always been the case that other players would almost certainly shoot you on sight, but now every interaction is reduced to the press of one single button.

 

Not to fan the “Opressor bad” flames again, but all of the car chases and running from helicopters and hiding from jets is gone now and nothing has taken its place. As far as I’m concerned GTAO is a single-player game with a glitch that occasionally requires me to press the fire button on my Mk.II so I don’t instantly die. I can see an excuse for gambling being non-competitive, but the arcade games? I went into it thinking the whole point would be to play minigames with friends. They drove adversary modes into the ground with garbage payouts even though there are some incredibly fun ones that I’ll binge during double cash events. 
 

I just want something to bring me back. 

I agree that nowadays i just see mostly people using opressors...but there's it's use split by 50-50. 50% of the times i see people just mind their own bussiness with the opressors, the other 50, griefing. I feel that R* didn't need to push this meme things to the game to make it more played by the people. They could put expensive prices in other stuff in the way to make people buy sharks bcz "they want that here and now and can't wait the grind/discounts to get that thing, without going the route of the meme vehicles.
The casino i don't understand being non-competitive. bcz poker is pvp in RDO and they toke measure to prevent people to cheat in their own benefit or to cheat in order to benefit their friends.

Maybe the answer is more role play. We saw how popular FiveM was. People like that kind of sutff. We have a lot of features like properties, ambience, weapons, clothes, to make plenty of things of role play, but we do lake the mechanics for that. Example: imagine you wanted to created a crew mob style. You have the cars, the clothes, you can build that atmosphere, but you lack the mechanics such as social club crew system being very restrictive about that stuff, you can't build a mafia family and hierarquies with the model of the current social club crew hierarchy, neither you have the power to send your crew on missions and if they would be deserved of a promotion you would give them a promotion. You don't have also enough (near zero actually) retail bussinesses to make some rackets mechanics. Surprisingly enough you have a CEO job where you colect the protetion money of the "bussinesses of certain area", but what protection? what stores? That mission is just there withouth any line of narrative and the game neve mentions that you are a mobster, just a CEO with criminal bussinesses. And if we are getting LC at some point, they have a gold opportunity to make something out of it.

I don't know if you heard about the Mercanti Family. It was a gta crew based on role play. Those guys are from the old days of old gen and they practically disapeared after 2015, i just saw their videos years later, but they were very serious about the role play aspect of the game and they were even mentioned in a newswire post about Crews. Rockstar noticed them. They even had a website where they managed all the aspects of the crew and what was happening daily in the game. They did that when GTA Online were quite bare-bones, imagine what they could do with the current state of GTA. I leave here a video about them (at 3:40, it's when it gets very interesting):
 

 

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8 hours ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

A small map expansion near LS will be a waters test for further and deeper map expansion, such as LC for next gen.

I honestly don't think they need to test any waters with a map expansion. Surely they must realize (and have seen it for years) that after spending seven years in the same and mostly unchanged map, we're sick and tired of it. If not, then they're truly out of touch with its player/customer base and have no idea about creating longevity in an online game. A map expansion is likely the most welcome addition they could give us right now.

 

However, as much as I want and hope for a map expansion, I do believe we won't get one until next gen when GTAO becomes its own stand-alone title. Adding a small map expansion such as Catalina island just feels like a dumb and unnecessary move IMO. It would probably add temporary excitement and satisfaction, but in the long run it would only feel like an extended arm of the same boring map we were already sick and tired of.

 

If R* is gonna spend big money on developing something the size of a map expansion, they should do it properly. Something that comes with great future opportunities and not just more waste of space the game needs to render. Otherwise they should just touch up the already existing map.

 

6 hours ago, —TheSquid— said:

A new map addition won’t be interesting without a fleshed out landscape. Take the ugly low-res textures off the buildings and it’s just a couple of miles of meaningless polygons your car can’t drive through. This is probably more of a next-gen/GTAVI thing but we need interiors. Not only that, but I can’t be greeted by three minutes of black screen or my system crashing every time I go inside of these interiors. Los Santos is empty and stale, and whatever they add will be too unless they touch things up and add more interactivity. 
 

We’re not going to get any of these things, so I’m not setting the bar high. I’d really like a change of scenery to take more pictures in at least, but I’m skeptical even of that. 

THIS.

 

I believe one of the big problems with GTAO is that R* relies too much on us as players. They obviously expect us to engage way more with each other than we actually do (in friendly manners). All they care and focus on is sucking our wallets dry. I get it, it's their business model. But in designing the game that way they also create massive player egos. Everybody owns a nightclub, arcade or whatever, and they all want people to come to their place. Nobody cares about other players' facilities (obviously).

 

Take the After Hours update, for instance. The greatest opportunity R* missed there was not giving us open access to non-players' clubs like the Tequi-La-La or Bahama Mamas. Places like those could have become meeting places for all players, perhaps with some mini games such as pool, dancing or drinking contests. Perhaps virtual concerts and other stuff to attend. Something like the Vanilla Unicorn but more interactive. Instead we got our own dead club with a crying Lazlow and a greedy Gay Tony.

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CarimboHanky
3 hours ago, —TheSquid— said:

I can already imagine driving an ambulance from Los Santos to Paleto Bay even though there’s a hospital in Sandy Shores, then completely skipping the Sandy Shores hospital again so I can take the patient back to Los Santos. 

thats R* logic at it finest!

 

just like in one of the casino heist setups they make us go to paleto bay to steal some weak ass drills, we cant buy them drills because that could lead cops to us BUT driving a stolen van from paleto bay into our arcade?! untraceable!

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rollschuh2282
16 minutes ago, CarimboHanky said:

thats R* logic at it finest!

the most annoying thing about the gruppe sechs approach is that the damaged stockade is when you have a LS arcade in 95% of the times in paleto

 

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SonofLosSantos

Just woke up from an insane dream where they added vice city and you could drive there from LS and you had a big ass deserts and forest between the two and you couldn’t fly over it because it was a no fly zone and you’d be shot down.

 

dammit rockstar, MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!

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Zordid
25 minutes ago, SonofLosSantos said:

Just woke up from an insane dream where they added vice city and you could drive there from LS and you had a big ass deserts and forest between the two and you couldn’t fly over it because it was a no fly zone and you’d be shot down.

 

dammit rockstar, MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!

Won't happen, go play GTA United

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Spider-Vice
49 minutes ago, SonofLosSantos said:

Just woke up from an insane dream where they added vice city and you could drive there from LS and you had a big ass deserts and forest between the two and you couldn’t fly over it because it was a no fly zone and you’d be shot down.

 

dammit rockstar, MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!

Gotta pay for GTA VI for that one :yee: 

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