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Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk IX  

425 members have voted

  1. 1. When do you think the next update is going to be REVEALED?

    • October
      16
    • November
      197
    • December
      201
    • January
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  2. 2. When do you think the next update is going to be RELEASED?

    • Earlier than December
      20
    • December
      382
    • January
      11
    • Later
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  3. 3. Where do you think the new heist will take place?

    • A tropical casino island (e.g. inspired by Catalina Island)
      120
    • A new city or town, or a part of it (e.g. GTA SA's Liberty City bit)
      47
    • We goin' LC bois and gals, Three Leaf Clover style!
      49
    • "New location" is all lies, just a random place in the existing GTA V map!
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  4. 4. What do you think will be the highest possible payout for the new heist?

    • < GTA$2M
      84
    • GTA$2M - GTA$3M
      148
    • GTA$3M - GTA$4M
      108
    • GTA$4M - GTA$5M
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    • > GTA$5M
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Konata Inoue
2 hours ago, philipg193 said:

 

If they have the Bond films in mind, they might even do a mission that involves this:HqhADfr.jpg

Damn chief. 

That train resembles my boy Nosepass.
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Shadowfennekin

Let's make Martin a proper antagonist like he should have been in SP

Or it could be the Dugan family again... 

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23 minutes ago, Shadowfennekin said:

Or it could be the Duggan family again... 

Problem there is Thornton is pretty honest and way more willing to reason to a middle ground, he was ready to settle for only a share of the Diamond if the Chengs weren't going to sell it. I think not seeing him at all in the Casino Heist update was a critically missing aspect, even though it wasn't designed to have a conclusion, so we've only really got Georgina's vengeful fury at the dishonour THE DUGGANS brought her family to paint Thornton as an antagonist.

 

It'd be interesting if as a concluding chapter of that plotline, (seeing as Georgina seems to settle for the Diamond just getting robbed once but praises every repeat attempt), if Thornton is the client this time around who asks us (remember; we're his freelance-when-it-suits-us-head-of-security if you've done the Penthouse Storyline) and Lester to find funding for the Casino via a job he has insider knowledge of, or by shutting down the competition.

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Retro_Causality

I think the dlc will have something to do with Georgina Chang. She’s playing the long game. Lester is getting played. Also remember rockstar said Heists not Heist so it seems to be plural, multiple heists like the heist dlc 

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19 minutes ago, Retro_Causality said:

I think the dlc will have something to do with Georgina Chang. She’s playing the long game. Lester is getting played. Also remember rockstar said Heists not Heist so it seems to be plural, multiple heists like the heist dlc 

When Rockstar says "Heists", it's more of a brand thing rather than the announcement of multiple individual heists.

 

It'd be cool to see their "new take" have multiple targets rather than just one, it was the biggest (core-gameplay) criticism of The Casino Heist, it's one building you can ENTER in many different ways, but once you're inside you're always heading for the exact same location, of which, the ONLY multiple path section you need to traverse, (rather than picking a route due to the randomized swipe locks) is getting past the Staff Lobby and into the U-shaped hallway with the Daily Vault, Lift & Stairwell.

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We definitely need either multiple Heists or different targets

I enjoyed the Casino Heist but I don't think I can do the exact same heist 3 different ways 100 more times.... especially as randumbs just turn it into an Assault run

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26 minutes ago, Shadowfennekin said:

especially as randumbs just turn it into an Assault run

some things will never change. Randoms will always think their Rambo or the Terminator while simultaneously blaming you they got shredded because they don't know what cover or snacks are. But honestly the worst heist to do with randoms are any that involve stealth cause you can show them how to use snacks/armor while in cover but you can't teach them how to not be a fool.

 

Does anyone think or would it even be possible for rockstar to revamp the original heists? Having multiple ways to do prison break would be great or Pac standard.

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41 minutes ago, JOEsAGGRESSIVE said:

Does anyone think or would it even be possible for rockstar to revamp the original heists? Having multiple ways to do prison break would be great or Pac standard.

Too late for most of us, but Prison Break meeting the checkpoint concept would have been glorious.  

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Do you guys think Mike and Franklin will be part of a our criew or our handlers?

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Black-Dragon96
6 hours ago, Retro_Causality said:

I think the dlc will have something to do with Georgina Chang. She’s playing the long game. Lester is getting played. Also remember rockstar said Heists not Heist so it seems to be plural, multiple heists like the heist dlc 

They say "new take, on heists". As in "This new Heist is diffrent than all the heists that came before it."

Also, I doubt that Lester is getting played by Georgina. I simply see no reason why this would be the case.

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1 hour ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

They say "new take, on heists". As in "This new Heist is diffrent than all the heists that came before it."

Also, I doubt that Lester is getting played by Georgina. I simply see no reason why this would be the case.

you don't think she could know that lester put the hit on her father?

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Gridl0k

I think the Casino and associated characters are more or less done, tbh. But ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

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18 minutes ago, Gridl0k said:

I think the Casino and associated characters are more or less done, tbh. But ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

It’s hard to say. I don’t mind if they either reappear or disappear once and for all. Those who remained established relationships and networks with online protagonists in one way or another. It’d be a missed opportunity to not form some connections between them and future events.  

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At least she made Lester start using texts 

13 hours ago, philipg193 said:

If they have the Bond films in mind, they might even do a mission that involves this:HqhADfr.jpg

 

I can probably still do that level of Goldeneye blindfold with the magnum on 00 difficulty

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Zordid
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God, I hope either Lester is an active part of the heist crew this time (and dies) or completely abscent. I'm so sick of his voice, I'm sure most people are

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Just now, Zordid said:

God, I hope either Lester is an active part of the heist crew (and dies) this time or completely abscent. I'm so sick of his voice, I'm sure most people are

I was gonna say it's been a good few years for that voice actor 😂

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Retro_Causality said:

you don't think she could know that lester put the hit on her father?

I dont know if she knows, but I feel that if she does she does not care or just does not see a point in killing Lester.

 

I mean she and her Family would have had plenty of time to punish Lester between late 2013 (End of gta 5 Story) and 2017 (mentioned by Agent 14).

I mean just look at Thornton Duggan. He did not kill a member of her family and even agreed to buy the casino at a reasonable price, yet the reaction was quick a hard.

 

Sure you could argue that they maybe couldnt find Lester, but that would not sound very likely. I mean they werent able to find him for 4 years while he was active but manage to find him after he retired? Nah.

 

You also have to remember that Cheng Family Holdings is just connected to the Triads but other than that a completly legit company (that does hire muscle if the situation calls for it). I feel like Cheng Dad (I dont remember his name) was the black sheep of the family and Lester placing the hit on him allowed them to avoid some problems so they would be fine with Cheng Dad getting killed. I mean Cheng Uncle is the Boss of the organisation and Georgina is "second in comand" while her Dad is not really connected to the company.

 

But maybe they did find him earlier but had no interesst in killing or punishing him and now a few years later they wanted to use his abilitys and allow him to "pay his debt" by working for them.

 

1 hour ago, Zordid said:

God, I hope either Lester is an active part of the heist crew this time (and dies) or completely abscent. I'm so sick of his voice, I'm sure most people are

I'm not.

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Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, Yan2295 said:

There's 1 thing I really like about GTA V's map, and that is landscapes. 

Weren't you supposed to be "silenced"?

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Posted (edited)
34 minutes ago, Pedinhuh said:

Weren't you supposed to be "silenced"?

"Controlled leaks"

  

2 hours ago, Zordid said:

God, I hope either Lester is an active part of the heist crew this time (and dies) or completely abscent. I'm so sick of his voice, I'm sure most people are

I don't mind it, maybe because I never grinded heists. The loading music on the other hand still gives me ptsd... they could add couple different tracks or something. 

But yeah, having someone else than Lester would be refreshing. I kinda like the idea where Lester gets kidnapped and we team up with Micheal to save him (first heist) and his money (second heist) and later (final heist) we take revenge, kill the kidnappers and take over their mansion (and finishing the story unlocks discounts).
  

44 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

I dont know if she knows, but I feel that if she does she does not care or just does not see a point in killing Lester.

 

I mean she and her Family would have had plenty of time to punish Lester between late 2013 (End of gta 5 Story) and 2017 (mentioned by Agent 14).

I mean just look at Thornton Duggan. He did not kill a member of her family and even agreed to buy the casino at a reasonable price, yet the reaction was quick a hard.

 

Sure you could argue that they maybe couldnt find Lester, but that would not sound very likely. I mean they werent able to find him for 4 years while he was active but manage to find him after he retired? Nah.

Unless she only found out about it recently and she's using Lester for now only to steal all of his money. And later she will use him as bait to lure the people who killed her dad? Dunno, that could be a good story line and a good reason to bring back the original crew. 

Probably not gonna happen tho. 

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5 hours ago, Retro_Causality said:

Do you guys think Mike and Franklin will be part of a our criew or our handlers?

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7 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

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Rockstars message to you and Yan previously 

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3 hours ago, Zordid said:

God, I hope either Lester is an active part of the heist crew this time (and dies) or completely abscent. I'm so sick of his voice, I'm sure most people are

And whose gonna hold our hand guiding us through the mind blowing orgy?

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Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, Retro_Causality said:

I think the dlc will have something to do with Georgina Chang. She’s playing the long game. Lester is getting played. Also remember rockstar said Heists not Heist so it seems to be plural, multiple heists like the heist dlc 

Rockstar said "a new take on heists", could mean one heist done in a new way.

19 hours ago, Volatollotalov said:

You can't put toothpaste back in the tube, as they say. 

Well you will have to find a way if a multibillion dollae company may raid your house because of it.

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On 10/3/2020 at 12:44 AM, Fun 2 said:

The Deathbike isn't part of the list anymore, and there's not much other than what you've stated.

Might be kinda weird question but do you have a list of cars that were meant to be on the podium but went unreleased, just like Deathbike? Just curious

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Im not a fan of Lester when considering the character he portrays, but at the same time i kinda love how he's bscly always part of the heists, at this point killing him off (that's already super unlikely to begin with) would just feel wrong, no other npc has even remotely as much relation to heisting as Lester, he will stick around. Besides the fact that he no longer calls me 30 times per play session has helped.

 

That said, i too get strong vibes from the whole thing that Georgina Cheng is playing Lester for a fool & theres more to this story. Assuming for a moment that that ending is canon for online; while it might've somehow been beneficial that Wei Cheng (the father) got killed i highly doubt the Chengs are just going to accept that, they might not have wanted to kill Lester (because they could use him) but they might decide to try destroy him in other ways (go after his fortune, get him caught, etc) once they no longer have a use for him?

 

The below is dialing speculation up to 11, but hey, thats what the thread is for right, so heres some thoughts about multiple DLC's continuing the story while incorporating the last few months of speculation and rumors plus a little wishlisting:

 

Spoiler

DLC #1
- Duggans have had enough, they put the casino up for sale

- In a surprise move, Lester buys it before the Chengs can (it will later turn out this was so he could give it to Georgina) and you can no longer 'heist it'

- Chengs are pissed, Georgina comes to you directly, comments on how they were trying to screw him over but he must've caught on somehow, so they need you to pull some sort of small time heist on Lester's warehouse/house to steal incriminating files
- Lester gets arrested and put in jail, he figures out Georgina was involved and is even angrier at himself then with the whole Avon ordeal.
- His assets are somewhat hidden (read: he's still rich / still owns the casino) and he has no hard evidence that you specifically were involved, so he calls you to help break him out of prison, theres some minor tie-ins to the casino & Vincent is involved/'brought back to the Diamond'

- This is where the possible cops content slots in, you 'heist' the prison as paramedic or cops or noose to get Lester out, using your casino penthouse for planning (giving purpose to the conference room)

- This is where the possible island makes its first appearance, you break Lester free but he cant live on the main landmass anymore 'because the Chengs have eyes everywhere', go to a jetmax at the docks.

- Theres a cutscene where you boat away, fade to black, fade back in as you arrive at the new island, Lester says something about proper retirement & wanting to collect his thoughts, you go back to main landmass, island isnt there in freemode/you only get a brief glimpse of it in the final cutscene.

 

DLC #2

- After a while (the re-re-release that can handle having both islands at the same time? they would be kinda far apart though to justify it not being visible before) Lester calls, hes managed to stay under the radar and is enjoying retirement, but he found out that the Chengs have a family mansion and small casino on the island, and he cant have that, so lets get back at them.

- You get picked up by Paige with a helicopter, fade to black, fade back in roughly a km from the island, she has some back & forth with Lester over the radio ("can you please retire already its kinda annoying how you keep beating me to certain targets") while you actually get flown the last bit to the new island fully in-game. She lands on the helipad of a medium sized mansion owned by Lester, he's waiting at the helipad on a segway.

- There is a cutscene for a little backstory (how he fell for the ruse of Georgina & why the Chengs hate him & how mansion is the better target/Paige will hit casino & how living so luxury is bliss) and he tells you to explore the island while he waits for some more people
- You now get to freely explore the island/its actually in freemode, its bscly all mansions but varying sizes, one of the biggest ones belongs to the Cheng's, theres a little town around the bay that has their casino (with attached golf course) and some clothing stores etc, the traffic is mostly high end sports/super cars with some classic cars, segways and highly customized golf carts mixed in, for the moment you are somewhat stuck here unless you're willing to boat back for 15 minutes or rejoin the game at a mainland spawn point (read: please spend some virtual money in this new area while u wait, expect clothes that are only available there, new casino games, etc)
- After a little while (ingame day) you get a call from Lester, come to his mansion
- You show up and the people we were waiting on are 2 of the sp protagonists, long cutscene summarized you're going to break into Cheng's mansion, use arcade basement for planning, and lester suggests you use 'some of the best people i've ever worked with' as support crew, you unlock the ability to 'fast travel' between the mainland & island somehow (idk, one of those circles on your yacht/at docks + cutscene? heli pickup that fades to black & teleports?)
- Mansion heist is like casino heist, there are different approaches, optional prep work etc, works with the same crew/stuff you used/unlocked for casino heist, but also new vehicles (and maybe some new weapons?) & outfits, you can use the earlier unlocked police/noose stuff as well as some new rp stuff. And then theres the sp protaginist(s) that will optionally take one/some of the roles for like 15% cut but are actually really great options.

- After you complete the heist Lester suggests that if you wanted too you could just keep hitting the Cheng mansion every so often (you have to let it accumulate new loot) or try hitting one of the smaller mansions (less pay for less prep work & simpler finale, but there are always some to hit, Cheng one will be like 'extra hard' mode that you can only play every once in a while, only that villa has the optional sp protagonist crew, they dont care for the smaller stuff)

 

DLC #3
- After a while Lester calls, he's not happy that the Chengs are still there and wants to talk, imo this should be the first dlc to introduce minimum level of 120 for some of its missions/content.

- You go over there and he suggest that you help Paige doing a better job at hitting the small casino, but you need somewhere to plan that from and on the island would make most sense, lucky for you because of all the heists/burglaries the house prices on the island have plummeted and you might be able to afford one, he gets us access too a special 'dynasty elite' website or something, mansions come in 3 sizes, start at 5mil and go up to something like 30mil, the medium and large ones will have customizations where you can easily burn trough another 25mil or so buying special rooms, extra garages, different gardens, etc.

- 'The community' of island residents is trying to save the island from losing all its value, so several stores open on the island, like an art store, furniture store, segway/golfcart dealer, boat dealer, etc.

- The heist will be like a mix of doomsday and casino, it has many different approaches/customizability that surpasses the casino heist, but its all proper difficult with mk2 weapon wielding npc's etc. (and since the casino is in the bay this is where they can justify adding new boats submarines etc)

- Once you've gone trough every single scenario of that heist, you get a call from Lester, he suggest that you know so much about Chengs casino now that you could prolly run it a lot better yourself, and hey, turns out they want to get rid of it, but Lester already has a better casino so he's not interested, its listed on the 'dynasty elite' website now.
- At this point you have the option to either keep heisting the Chengs casino when-ever you see fit, OR, you buy it, and it becomes passive income, but then you can no longer heist it as host (as client it should be fine since you'd wear masks/be stealthy so insurance would cover it/wouldn't know its you heisting yourself)

 

I could keep going but considering i sorta covered a possible next 3 dlc's i will stop now :kekw:

 

 

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1 hour ago, MGgames100 said:

Might be kinda weird question but do you have a list of cars that were meant to be on the podium but went unreleased, just like Deathbike? Just curious

You mean vehicles that were removed from the list? Pretty sure the Deathbike is the only case we have of that happening.

There are vehicles that have been collecting the dust for a while like the S80RR (recently listed twice) and V-STR, but these are still on the list and can be released at any upcoming event.

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4 hours ago, Piro said:

Unless she only found out about it recently and she's using Lester for now only to steal all of his money. And later she will use him as bait to lure the people who killed her dad? Dunno, that could be a good story line and a good reason to bring back the original crew. 

Probably not gonna happen tho. 

Well she is Vice President of her Uncles Company, I'm pretty sure she got more money than Lester.

 

You say they may have only found him recently. Thats possible but as I said in my other Post unlikely.  He made so much cash through (probably anonymised) investments in the Stock market, he was involved in the production of illegal goods (LJT), he was activly involved in the doomsday heist and god knows what other adventured "off camera" and they did not find him. But now after he retired for 1-2 years only doing his "make the cops go away" thing for a few $ they somehow find him.

No offense but that sounds strange for an Expert Hacker like Georgina who in her own words cloned his phone in 5 minutes.

 

I'm pretty sure they knew about him and his involvement and were fine with it or they didnt but didnt care enough to find out who did it either.

And I also think the Georgina actually likes Lester. You could argue that "Lester is not a Social Butterfly and generally keeps to himself so why would she want him?", but I feel like thats exactly the reason why she likes him.

You dont become an expert Hacker or Vice President of a Company by going out and partying all the time like her Brother does. They both are not as diffrent as it may seem.

 

I do however expect to see her in the next Heist. I believe that the Chengs will hire us to do a Job for them outside of LS (on an Island) and that we will need both Lesters Heist experience and her Hacker talent to pull it off.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, suicidal_banana said:

That said, i too get strong vibes from the whole thing that Georgina Cheng is playing Lester for a fool & theres more to this story. Assuming for a moment that that ending is canon for online; while it might've somehow been beneficial that Wei Cheng (the father) got killed i highly doubt the Chengs are just going to accept that, they might not have wanted to kill Lester (because they could use him) but they might decide to try destroy him in other ways (go after his fortune, get him caught, etc) once they no longer have a use for him?

The problem with both Casino Updates is that they've reintroduced the horrifying issue of chronology to GTA Online in a much more awkward way the all the Post-Ill Gotten Gains 2 DLC's have done. Now there's a smaller section of the game you need to play in order to understand the story going into a much grander, more lucrative and completely seperate update, that you can actually be introduced to Georgina and be told the Duggans already own the Casino having muscled her brother Tao out, before you've even set foot into the Casino and be told the Duggan family are trying to buy it from Tao Cheng. [NOTE: I'm assuming that, given how low a rank some people can be when hosting their own Casino Heist, if there's anything wrong about what I've said here, please tell me].

 

They can't keep the Duggans v Chengs or even their individual storylines going forever. As cool as it would be to have Georgina be a psychotically honour fuelled antagonist of Catalina levels of insanity who used Lester as a means to take revenge on the Duggans before moving onto her warped obsession with him for killing her dad, that would only further fuel the confusion of newer players who are being introduced to these characters... before they've even met wheelchair bound Lester at his house upon reaching Rank 10. The Casino is comprised of owning both a Penthouse, which at face value is just a money sink of an apartment and the Arcade which you're told is specifically to Heist the Casino with no warning that the events tied to the Penthouse come before the Arcade introduction cutscene in Mirror Park. If the Mirror Park cutscene was locked behind completing Casino - Cashing Out, it'd make sense, but then who knows how much damage would've been caused to the day one sharkcard profits due to the amount of people suddenly realizing they need to buy the penthouse first if they want to rob the Casino.

 

If Rockstar introduced a menu like a Flow Chart that explains what activities are tied to each property you can/have purchased, that might help...

https://i.imgur.com/kV8PhRy.png

 

EDIT: Let's not question the inconsistency of the High End Apartment tab being grayed out, but I'm standing in mine in the image.

 

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16 hours ago, Retro_Causality said:

I think the dlc will have something to do with Georgina Chang. She’s playing the long game. Lester is getting played. Also remember rockstar said Heists not Heist so it seems to be plural, multiple heists like the heist dlc 

Or it was just a meme finale to make lester get laid finally. Sick and not a greek god looking-alike people also have the right to find hapiness and love. xD

14 hours ago, JOEsAGGRESSIVE said:

some things will never change. Randoms will always think their Rambo or the Terminator while simultaneously blaming you they got shredded because they don't know what cover or snacks are. But honestly the worst heist to do with randoms are any that involve stealth cause you can show them how to use snacks/armor while in cover but you can't teach them how to not be a fool.

 

Does anyone think or would it even be possible for rockstar to revamp the original heists? Having multiple ways to do prison break would be great or Pac standard.

What is mindblowed is the fact that people still do prison break (even more than pacific standard) in 2020 and accordingly to the invites i receive for that, people do that a lot still.

7 hours ago, Zordid said:

God, I hope either Lester is an active part of the heist crew this time (and dies) or completely abscent. I'm so sick of his voice, I'm sure most people are

That's because you probably grind the heist. as a matter of fact, the heists probably only would be still in the realm of logic after you done the 3 different approaches. Bcz, realistically speaking, how awkward is Lester always speaking the same thing over an over? xD How strange is to Duggan still be able to have the casino opened after so many heists, lmao. If it was realistically at this point he would be poor and the casino would be closed for a long time due to bankrupcy. But i guess we need hear him bcz meanwhile he speaks it serves the purpose to load the prep missions, the unskipable cutscenes in order to load interiors, etc.

3 hours ago, Cash 4 Clickbait said:

And whose gonna hold our hand guiding us through the mind blowing orgy?

And that's why Lester is a weird guy. =S

28 minutes ago, Cash 4 Clickbait said:

The problem with both Casino Updates is that they've reintroduced the horrifying issue of chronology to GTA Online in a much more awkward way the all the Post-Ill Gotten Gains 2 DLC's have done. Now there's a smaller section of the game you need to play in order to understand the story going into a much grander, more lucrative and completely seperate update, that you can actually be introduced to Georgina and be told the Duggans already own the Casino having muscled her brother Tao out, before you've even set foot into the Casino and be told the Duggan family are trying to buy it from Tao Cheng. [NOTE: I'm assuming that, given how low a rank some people can be when hosting their own Casino Heist, if there's anything wrong about what I've said here, please tell me].

 

They can't keep the Duggans v Chengs or even their individual storylines going forever. As cool as it would be to have Georgina be a psychotically honour fuelled antagonist of Catalina levels of insanity who used Lester as a means to take revenge on the Duggans before moving onto her warped obsession with him for killing her dad, that would only further fuel the confusion of newer players who are being introduced to these characters... before they've even met wheelchair bound Lester at his house upon reaching Rank 10. The Casino is comprised of owning both a Penthouse, which at face value is just a money sink of an apartment and the Arcade which you're told is specifically to Heist the Casino with no warning that the events tied to the Penthouse come before the Arcade introduction cutscene in Mirror Park. If the Mirror Park cutscene was locked behind completing Casino - Cashing Out, it'd make sense, but then who knows how much damage would've been caused to the day one sharkcard profits due to the amount of people suddenly realizing they need to buy the penthouse first if they want to rob the Casino.

 

If Rockstar introduced a menu like a Flow Chart that explains what activities are tied to each property you can/have purchased, that might help...

https://i.imgur.com/kV8PhRy.png

 

EDIT: Let's not question the inconsistency of the High End Apartment tab being grayed out, but I'm standing in mine in the image.

 

Yeah, but somehow they decided to block the Vincent mission of the casino heist prep, bcz "you would get lost in chronology"! xD But i think that doesnt matter to R* as long they get their shark card sells. 😛 In fact, only hardcore players would want to go and do everything the correct way, i only went to online after doing the single player, for example. But the truth here is that the majority of players and specially new players only want to get their hands in online and if you do online at the current state it is and if you didn't have done the SP story, you're already out of context. I know a person who never played SP and he only cares about caos in gta online, kill cops and call it a day. He doesn't even care about clothes and got bored when i tried to show him that. That's why i don't get why some people even bother play an online game, seems to me that a gta 3 or VC would be enough to get them entertained.

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I interpret "new take on heists" to mean a change from the prep -> setup -> finale pattern.

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