Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk IX

[KingBen]

Who said GTA wasn’t realistic?

[Disclolume]

4 minutes ago, KingBen said:

Who said GTA wasn’t realistic?

Someone just flew past the observatory

[Gentle_Shelby]

2 minutes ago, Disclolume said:

Someone just flew past the observatory

Madlad killed Avon?

[suicidal_banana]

2 minutes ago, KingBen said:

Who said GTA wasn’t realistic?

(i feel like this should've gone in the general chat thread but oh well)

 

All jokes aside i dont get whats the big deal about that, 3000 feet is nothing (less then a km high) and anybody thats been 'in the jetpack industry' for a few years laughs at this nonsense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_Rossy

This dude went and used his jetpack (yes its not really a traditional idea of jetpack but its still a backpack with jets, hence jetpack) at 8200 feet high 12 years ago, none of the attention this is getting makes any sort of sense, i cant tell if its just muricans fapping over the idea of their military working on a jetpack or if they are simply unaware of the fact that jetpacks have been a thing for a few decades already & some people/companies have that shiz figured out by now.

[AUScowboy]

29 minutes ago, KingBen said:

Who said GTA wasn’t realistic?

Damn, you beat me to it lol. Only in Los Santo... I mean LA.

[Killer Whale]

7 minutes ago, suicidal_banana said:

i dont get whats the big deal about that, 3000 feet is nothing (less then a km high) and anybody thats been 'in the jetpack industry' for a few years laughs at this nonsense.

I think the issue was because he was flying over restricted airspace and near planes.

 

What really surprises me is if this is a civilian owning a jetpack, cuz no professional would be this reckless.

[Tez2]

New additions to the podium list

- S80RR (re-added, could mean a higher chance of release)

- Gauntlet Classic Custom

- DR1

- Fränken Stange (Most likely kept for Halloween)

- XA-21

- Tigon

Remaining cars

- Penumbra FF

- Coquette D10

- Itali GTB

Old cars in the list

- V-STR

- S80RR

[Crateman]

9 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

New additions to the podium list

- S80RR (re-added, could mean a higher chance of release)

- Gauntlet Classic Custom

- DR1

- Fränken Stange (Most likely kept for Halloween)

- XA-21

- Tigon

Remaining cars

- Penumbra FF

- Coquette D10

- Itali GTB

Old cars in the list

- V-STR

- S80RR

Good car selection for My second character crate lady 

[US Marshal1911]

14 hours ago, keggre said:

reeeeee you didn't even make an argument REEEEEEEEEEEE

 

- swegta himself

TL/DR warning but its good.

 

I don't even know where this nobody came from but there's plenty of arguments with sufficient reasoning, logic, and speculation as to why there is a high chance of receiving Liberty City as a possible map expansion one day. Literally no one should be listening to anything he says. I've (along with some others) listed multiple points to explain my reasoning as to why it is possible in multiple areas of this forum. I'll list them again all in one place if he wants to see an argument...

 

-Houser's, Sarwar, and Benzies  mentioned multiple times in 2012,2013 that they wanted to see a Grand Theft Auto game which included all they're previously made cities ; “Of course at some point we would like to have one big world containing all our cities and let the player fly between them and revisit their favorite areas,” Benzies said. https://www.ign.com/articles/2012/12/14/rockstar-wants-to-put-all-grand-theft-auto-cities-in-one-game

 

-To the people saying 'entirely new location means adding a small island because it has to be something new to GTA.' The Newswire Post said "... and the biggest ever update for GTA Online, featuring our latest take on Heists in an entirely new location." In my opinion, For GTA Online means entirely new location to GTA Online, not a new location from nothing before in the GTA Universe. (LC would be an entirely new location for hysts in GTA Online. MY opinion!).

 

-Liberty City is one of those things like Cops-N-Crooks, a lot of people have asked and begged, and would like to see it. With the learning that Rockstar was working on a CNC, that means they were listening. Now they go and mention New Location, Big Update, Next Chapter in GTA Online... This language sounds like Map Expansion Language and I would say 7 years later is a good time to add an expansion on a game that is still one of the most played games daily. "until the next major GTA Online update hits later this year: the next chapter in the GTA Online story and an all-new take on Heists." https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/61666/Los-Santos-Summer-Special-in-GTA-Online Next Chapter in the Story sounds like new place to me, not a small island on the coast of Los Santos. (Sorry Piro)

 

-Liberty City is the only other HD era city. To the people that say, 'iT wOuLd TaKe ToO lOnG' are right and wrong, it would take a long time to redo/revamp Liberty from scratch like San Fierro and Las Venturas. BUT, LC is already a basic blueprint for what needs to be done which cuts down on the time for work. Based on some things we've learned about an employee's portfolio about 3/4 years ago, there is a legit, updated Middle Park image. It is unknown if this was just a freelance project the employee was messing with or actual development so it leads to speculation that something has been worked on in Liberty City in the past so what stops them from working on it between then and now? They have development teams all over the world and have had 7 years to work on things. Its not that hard to see they have the ability to do this guys.

 

-GTA Online has been announced for Next Gen as a stand-alone title from GTA. This leads to my main theory that the current developers are continuing what was originally intended by the Houser's and former Rockstar President Leslie Benzies by adding all the previous cities into one platform, Online, which will definitely take a long time to implement. As I said before, LC is the other HD era city so naturally that would be the first one added while the team is developing content for GTA 6. That would give the new player base who never had GTA 4 a 'new' area to explore and the old player base a memory to explore, while R* is milking the 7 year old game for more Shark Cards. Once GTA 6 is complete, which is more likely to be a larger Vice City, Caribbean Island, Gulf Coast inclusion with a mix of swamps, islands, and beaches, will then be added to the Online title along with updated San Fierro and Venturas at a much later time.

 

-For the ones saying the server cannot handle the two maps together; we simply go to Los Santos International, purchase a plane ticket for whichever insufferable price tag they put on it, and go to a loading cutscene, load into the Liberty City server, and land at Francis International in Dukes. We spend enough time in the clouds already, spending a little more time being stuck in a plane in the clouds won't hurt. The intro to GTA Online is exactly us in a cutscene landing at LSIA so they could reuse that and make a new one for Liberty. They've also done this flying between airports in GTA San Andreas so it could be worked out for this. 

 

-There are plenty of unused characters from GTA 4 that are still alive which could be used as contacts for missions mixed in with contacts from 5 Online and entirely new contacts. Tony could reference Luis for nightclub work in LC, Agent 14 can have an old New York bomb shelter and set us up with Armando and Henrique for Gunrunning. Packie is a potential member of our Crews if we rescue him so he could reference places to hyst with Lester; the diamond district in New York (Liberty) is rich with places to rob full of Gold, Diamonds, Cash, and Jewelry. The museum in Middle Park also has some antiquities that would profit big from a hyst. Yusuf Amir could be interesting to work with...this needs not saying, he already had us hyst a subway car, who knows what else he could want. 

 

-*(This is purely SPECULATION)* For the Niko Bellic people, Lester has already mentioned Niko Bellic saying he went dark, who else went dark at one time? Micheal Townley De Santa who came back to the hyst business with Trevor. If Packie returned with our crew to Liberty, maybe he could convince Niko to hyst with him for one last time? 

 

-There are plenty of apartments to be added in Liberty City to choose from high end with amazing views of Middle Park, Star Junction, Statue of Hapiness, Broker Bridge, mansions in Alderny, and low end apartments all over the place. Plenty of car park garages and warehouses for CEO businesses, a hangar at Francis International, there was a casino in Alderny...The Firefly Island park could be a working park now with Ferris Wheel, Rollercoaster, QUB3D, and Fun's Go karts. 

 

-Bowling

 

-Adding Liberty City would definitely boost Shark Card sales and give people a reason to want to repurchase GTA Online on Next Gen, I'm sorry, a small, unimportant island off the coast of Los Santos with one hyst is not really a good resell point. (Sorry Piro don't hate me please! lol)

GTA is 7 years old now and still kicking strong despite the server issues and idiots on oppressors. Rockstar wants to keep that up but they need something BIG. GTA 4 Liberty City is honestly not that big of a map compared to 5 but its not small either. Its the perfect concept to keep people happy and buying Sharks. 

 

This is all speculation but would be the best, logical option for Rockstar to increase their profits and continue keeping people on their game. I may edit later to include other points if I can think of anything else or grammar/errors. Please discuss and if you have anything else to add or criticize, lets hear it.  

 

Edit 1: I'm quoting what Swegta said, not arguing with keggre just for clarification, it sounded like I was talking directly to keggre

 

Edited September 2, 2020 by US Marshal1911

[MekhiSkyline]

There definitely needs to be more variety when it comes to business battles, especially with cars you can steal for your warehouse, and there should be new cars you can steal for your warehouse, back to the business battles, there should be stuff like this:

 

Edited September 2, 2020 by Michael Patton

[AgentSapphire]

A couple of days ago, someone here said that adding DLC cars to the traffic will give San Andreas more life. While I agree it’s a good idea, I think the NPCs shouldn’t have too many nice things. To be straightforward, I do want my cars to be exclusive and only exclusive to players, robots (NPCs) shouldn’t have them. Not gonna lie, I’m pretty selfish in this case...

 

I drive a Revolter in the game regularly. Oh man, those NPCs can’t have this nice car...

 

But still, I’m not against updating NPC traffic. 
 

I do hope that they will make Revolter an armoured vehicle. It should have bulletproof windows and explosive resistance, not visible armour plates though because it’s too showy. It has good performance, I think good defence will be a nice companion. Oh btw, I’m not saying it should have missiles but oh well, not saying no to that...

[keggre]

@US Marshal1911 yeah I defo agree with you on many points there. I'm not betting money that it'll be lc this winter, but there are many reasons to believe it might be. it's definitely in the realm of valid speculation. swegta framing it like he's the only one in the world with rational arguments is childish af.

 

I feel like mrbossftw fans are all impressionable 12 year olds, but all the swegta fans are slightly less impressionable 14 year olds who think they're super clever for watching swegta instead of mrboss without realizing how impressionable they actually are. there's some extent of the gta community that is super skeptical to any speculation just as a knee-jerk reaction to mrboss, and swegta to me embodies them. if you speculate about anything on r/gtaonline for example, people will be like "oK mRbOss." It's kind of frustrating.

[US Marshal1911]

1 minute ago, keggre said:

@US Marshal1911 yeah I defo agree with you on many points there. I'm not betting money that it'll be lc this winter, but there are many reasons to believe it might be. it's definitely in the realm of valid speculation. swegta framing it like he's the only one in the world with rational arguments is childish af.

 

I feel like mrbossftw fans are all impressionable 12 year olds, but all the swegta fans are slightly less impressionable 14 year olds who think they're super clever for watching swegta instead of mrboss without realizing how impressionable they actually are. there's some extent of the gta community that is super skeptical to any speculation just as a knee-jerk reaction to mrboss, and swegta to me embodies them. if you speculate about anything on r/gtaonline for example, people will be like "oK mRbOss." It's kind of frustrating.

I agree, I'm not saying that its 100% Liberty City coming in December. But the language they are using sounds like map expansion. I would say I am 60% believing its Liberty in December. Based on the moves I am seeing Rockstar make, I do believe that it will make its way into Online one day for certain.

[Zak Ras]

3 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

New additions to the podium list

Spoiler

- S80RR (re-added, could mean a higher chance of release)

- Gauntlet Classic Custom

- DR1

- Fränken Stange (Most likely kept for Halloween)

- XA-21

- Tigon

Remaining cars

- Penumbra FF

- Coquette D10

- Itali GTB

Old cars in the list

- V-STR

- S80RR

 

Nevermind what's on the list exactly, the fact we've now got a substantial list that size again gives me the impression they've worked out a plan they have confidence in for the next 2-ish months.

Edited September 2, 2020 by Zak Ras

[Smart speculation1]

7 hours ago, rollschuh2282 said:

does the window disappear after changing something in the tuning shop, or does it never spawn with it?

Idk what causes it, but I noticed it when I put tint on the windows so it’s hard to miss.  I know it’s not a big deal lol it’s just these kind of things don’t sit well with my ocd. 

[Shadowfennekin]

Are people talking about LC for actual reasoning? Or just speculation like usual?

[Piro]

3 hours ago, US Marshal1911 said:

Adding Liberty City would definitely boost Shark Card sales and give people a reason to want to repurchase GTA Online on Next Gen, I'm sorry, a small, unimportant island off the coast of Los Santos with one hyst is not really a good resell point. (Sorry Piro don't hate me please! lol)

I'm with you on LC. I made couple long posts myself explaining why it would make sense. The fact that they could remake and resell all the old content on the new map should be enough to convince R* its worth it.

In a perfect world we would get Catalina island as the last dlc on this gen as a "thank you" from R* and LC would be the thing to convince people to buy the game again on next gen. But I know its unlikely they would give us both. But who knows. Time will tell. 

[US Marshal1911]

6 minutes ago, Piro said:

I'm with you on LC. I made couple long posts myself explaining why it would make sense. The fact that they could remake and resell all the old content on the new map should be enough to convince R* its worth it.

In a perfect world we would get Catalina island as the last dlc on this gen as a "thank you" from R* and LC would be the thing to convince people to buy the game again on next gen. But I know its unlikely they would give us both. But who knows. Time will tell. 

Whatever it is, I'm not complaining on anything we get for free, if it is only Catalina Island, that will be fine with me. I'm not trying to sound like I know some inside information or act entitled to LC, I just feel that how some of these people are blatantly knocking the idea of LC coming at all is so ignorant and un-informed because there are strong points to show that it is viable for Rockstar to add it some day. 

Edited September 2, 2020 by US Marshal1911

[KingBen]

Has the PR4 been on the podium twice or is just me?

[rollschuh2282]

2 minutes ago, KingBen said:

Has the PR4 been on the podium twice or is just me?

yep.

was iirc on the podium like a week before it came out as dripfeed

[Grottomacy]

i hope its not liberty city its been done to death gta 3 gta iv chinatown wars liberty city stories some place new please

[Shiloh Comes]

42 minutes ago, Piro said:

I'm with you on LC. I made couple long posts myself explaining why it would make sense.
 

 

I hope not, it's been done to death, so many times, not just in GTA but in other games. How interesting is a bland grid with a park in the first place?

 

If they do pass 10,000 volts through it to revive it AGAIN, I just hope it's realistic.

 

We could help all the people who are fleeing the city. We could run a moving business, seeing how the wait in real life is months long.

 

Or maybe work as realtors, given the 50% drop in property prices in one month thanks to so many flooding the market as people run from violence, fire, bricks and God knows what else?

 

Coming soon - Liberty City - Babylon Stories.

 

We could have adversary modes called things like Cultural Appropriation, Woke Wars and Westchester Privilege or something.

 

All I want from the rest of the life of this game are some roads where I can actually drive all the car p0rn they've given us without traffic, street furniture, cops or anything else that makes what is supposed to be fun, you know - video games, feel as irritating as a real life commute.

 

So many cars.

 

Such a convoluted mess of a map.

Edited September 2, 2020 by Shiloh Comes

[Zak Ras]

13 minutes ago, rollschuh2282 said:

yep.

was iirc on the podium like a week before it came out as dripfeed

Can we take a moment to appreciate a currently an under utilized concept that has only happened twice in the 52+ weeks The Lucky Wheel has existed?

 

Unlocking Dripfeed Vehicles before their official release... but at the same time, I'd be a liar if I claimed ignorance of why they didn't make a habit of that...

 

6 minutes ago, Grottomacy said:

i hope its not liberty city its been done to death gta 3 gta iv chinatown wars liberty city stories some place new please

Opening line of the next trailer;

 

"Why did I move here...?

Spoiler

DADDY'S BACK YOU BITCHES!!!"

 

Edited September 2, 2020 by Zak Ras

[Grottomacy]

lmao great  minds think alike

[US Marshal1911]

20 minutes ago, Shiloh Comes said:

 

I hope not, it's been done to death, so many times, not just in GTA but in other games. How interesting is a bland grid with a park in the first place?

 

If they do pass 10,000 volts through it to revive it AGAIN, I just hope it's realistic.

 

We could help all the people who are fleeing the city. We could run a moving business, seeing how the wait in real life is months long.

 

Or maybe work as realtors, given the 50% drop in property prices in one month thanks to so many flooding the market as people run from violence, fire, bricks and God knows what else?

 

Coming soon - Liberty City - Babylon Stories.

 

We could have adversary modes called things like Cultural Appropriation, Woke Wars and Westchester Privilege or something.

 

All I want from the rest of the life of this game are some roads where I can actually drive all the car p0rn they've given us without traffic, street furniture, cops or anything else that makes what is supposed to be fun, you know - video games, feel as irritating as a real life commute.

 

So many cars.

 

Such a convoluted mess of a map.

Heres the kicker, you don't have to join the LC server if you don't want to buddy. It would be separate lobbies

Edited September 2, 2020 by US Marshal1911

[Zak Ras]

54 minutes ago, US Marshal1911 said:

Heres the kicker, you don't have to join the LC server if you don't want to buddy. It would be separate lobbies

That's what I bank on for Liberty City making a return. I don't think anyone whose after LC in GTA Online is expecting Rockstar to do it the way modders do it where they just stick the GTA 4 map east of LS.

 

I've mentioned this before, sure they've they "don't want to divide the player base". If they release it for free, (it's a big ask, but it's the business model they're hellbent on sticking to), then the only risks of dividing there'll be is not allowing a majority of weaponized vehicles in LC and putting the best ways of making in-game money behind extremely $5m+ buy-in prices. Then you ask "well why would they go back on their word?", well let me give you the 2 shining examples we've got from GTA V/Online itself.

 

- Single Player DLC was promised.

- After the first Heists update released 18 months behind schedule and reworked from team-role contact missions into the 4 player co-op pernickity mess that it is, we were expicitly told by Rockstar there would not be another Heists update due to all the trouble that the first one proved to be.

 

Now, I'm not expecting Liberty City this December, (although that'd be one hell of a Christmas present), but  it'd make great bait to hook players in if it came with the rererelease next year. But even then, I mainly think LC being added is dependent on what Rockstars grand plan for GTA Online is. Are they mainlining it until just mid-2022? Will they keep it as the main game until 2025? Someone (I think I remember who but I don't want to say, just incase I'm wrong and due to the poor bugger's every word being gospel to clickbaiters), brought up the idea of GTA 6 eventually releasing with a full blown story like what the franchise is famous for, but it's map being added into the GTA Online we already have to prevent players starting from scratch after 7/8+ years.

Edited September 2, 2020 by Zak Ras

[hyperar]

58 minutes ago, Grottomacy said:

i hope its not liberty city its been done to death gta 3 gta iv chinatown wars liberty city stories some place new please

Vice City would fit much better with San Andreas than Liberty City IMHO, Liberty City is more dense.

[VitoCorleone1992]

I'm mentally prepared for this new location being just a new building in LS. I can't imagine how many people will get disapointed if that's the case. xD

[Pressure Drop]

I don't really understand why people think it's going to be LC, NY or a random island.... the wording was "Heist in an entirely new location" - to me that means somewhere that already exists on the map, just a location that we have not done a heist in before, such as Maze Bank, or the Mile High building. I doubt they will add a map expansion at all. It's been 7 long years with no map expansion, just a load of Saints Row vehicles and overpriced, overmilitarised stuff.
 

Don't get your hopes up I would say...

[Zak Ras]

Just now, Pressure Drop said:

I don't really understand why people think it's going to be LC, NY or a random island.... the wording was "Heist in an entirely new location" - to me that means somewhere that already exists on the map, just a location that we have not done a heist in before, such as Maze Bank, or the Mile High building.
 

Don't get your hopes up I would say...

Indeeeeed... that way, even if it does turn out to be more than an already on-map location/rework, then it's an even better surprise.