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Gaffa
1 hour ago, 3LitersOfMilk said:

The current gen consoles can’t really handle them when there’s a few of them in the air and when a bunch of them crash

Lol... 

Maybe that'll go on the 2021 gen wishlist then. 😛

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1 hour ago, kenmy13999 said:

Didn't @RedDaggersay a long time ago that mentioning this name was illegal in most countries 🤣

oh boy it's purgin' time again

 

idk how many people here remember softsecrets since it was literally 4 years ago at this point, but bloody hell that post had longevity - I'm honestly not surprised it got posted again lol

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Black-Dragon96
1 hour ago, MoldyWorm Gaming said:

Before I say what I’m gonna say, you don’t have to believe me, but I have some information about the December DLC and I’m sharing it with you. For those wondering I have got stuff right in the past like the aircraft carrier being added to free mode and the new yacht missions. 
 

Now on to my information: your all expecting a massive map expansion because Rockstar said “and entirely new take on heists in a brand new location” but did it ever occur to you that the doomsday heist was a brand new location? We’ve never been inside mount Chilliad until that point. Yep that’s right we’re gonna be getting a part 2 to the dooms day heist. Rockstar were testing the water adding the aircraft carrier to free mode but in December it will be sticking around for good! Bog Dan was not as good as we all first thought, this time he will be the bad guy and we will have to take him down! He mixed his submarine with the remains of Clifford the AI Bot to make a super sub and now we have to take him out.

 

trust me when I say non of you are ready for the December DLC, it’s gonna be epic!

Wrong building buddy. The joke telling contest is across the street.

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SonofLosSantos
1 hour ago, MoldyWorm Gaming said:

Before I say what I’m gonna say, you don’t have to believe me, but I have some information about the December DLC and I’m sharing it with you. For those wondering I have got stuff right in the past like the aircraft carrier being added to free mode and the new yacht missions. 
 

Now on to my information: your all expecting a massive map expansion because Rockstar said “and entirely new take on heists in a brand new location” but did it ever occur to you that the doomsday heist was a brand new location? We’ve never been inside mount Chilliad until that point. Yep that’s right we’re gonna be getting a part 2 to the dooms day heist. Rockstar were testing the water adding the aircraft carrier to free mode but in December it will be sticking around for good! Bog Dan was not as good as we all first thought, this time he will be the bad guy and we will have to take him down! He mixed his submarine with the remains of Clifford the AI Bot to make a super sub and now we have to take him out.

 

trust me when I say non of you are ready for the December DLC, it’s gonna be epic!

Sounds plausible 

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uNi
2 hours ago, Zak Ras said:

But in basic freeroam with 30 players, wouldn't that be more disasterous than the Casino? If you have 10 players on the island that's really far away, but 20 other players on the mainland, and the games trying to process VIP Work, Challenges and Sale missions all at the same time, isn't the engine gonna crap itself?

Not necessarily, but if it does is just another motive to upgrade to next gen next year or so.

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Ombre_Blanco
2 hours ago, Zak Ras said:

Here's something on the tech side I'm wondering. Say Rockstar add an island that is permanent way off the Western coast so you had to travel really far across the ocean.

 

In Heists, the island being so far away from the mainland COULD be very beneficial for performance, only needing to spawn in the bear minimum of LS (or even despawn it completely and replace it with a PNG on the horizon) since the focus will be on the island itself. But in basic freeroam with 30 players, wouldn't that be more disasterous than the Casino? If you have 10 players on the island that's really far away, but 20 other players on the mainland, and the games trying to process VIP Work, Challenges and Sale missions all at the same time, isn't the engine gonna crap itself?

 

That's why I lean towards having new locations (if we ever get them) in seperate lobbies, no major differences in how the lobby behaves like making LC a friendly fire no weaponized vehicle lobby like I speculated last year, just what map the lobby is taking place on.

 

Hypothetically, introduce Liberty City as its own lobby, but don't give it the LS ways of making money, like the current Businesses we own, none of the first 3/4 Heist updates, Client Jobs, etc. Wouldn't this (very roughly planned) approach of compartmentalisation give the engine an easier time? I know they've said they don't want to "split up the games population" or words to that effect, but would they rather go back on that like they went back on never making another Heist update after the first one and that there'd be Story Mode DLC in 2014 & 2015, or continue to flood the map of Los Santos with freeroam activity upon freeroam activity until the engine's performance is finally (or should I say; even more) shot to hell?

 

Halo 3 and it's map packs are how you split a population. If you wanted to play from a certain list of gamemodes and have a mix of original and newer maps, you had to buy the map packs and go into specific matchmaking playlists. But it eventually got so bad that they just had to make a few playlists dedicated solely to the map packs since not everyone was buying them. Now Rockstar are hellbent on making every update free, so there's no real world lockout to cause a split. The only way they could potentially caused a legitimate population split is if a new map in a seperate lobby had much more beloved ways of making money than all the rest... which c'mon, it's Rockstar, they can find ways to ruin what could be the best and easiest ways of making serious in-game money.

Just wait until the 64 player lobbies on next gen come out lol.

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RedDagger
2 hours ago, MoldyWorm Gaming said:

Before I say what I’m gonna say, you don’t have to believe me, but I have some information about the December DLC and I’m sharing it with you. For those wondering I have got stuff right in the past like the aircraft carrier being added to free mode and the new yacht missions. 
 

Now on to my information: your all expecting a massive map expansion because Rockstar said “and entirely new take on heists in a brand new location” but did it ever occur to you that the doomsday heist was a brand new location? We’ve never been inside mount Chilliad until that point. Yep that’s right we’re gonna be getting a part 2 to the dooms day heist. Rockstar were testing the water adding the aircraft carrier to free mode but in December it will be sticking around for good! Bog Dan was not as good as we all first thought, this time he will be the bad guy and we will have to take him down! He mixed his submarine with the remains of Clifford the AI Bot to make a super sub and now we have to take him out.

 

trust me when I say non of you are ready for the December DLC, it’s gonna be epic!

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keggre
14 minutes ago, Ombre_Blanco said:

Just wait until the 64 player lobbies on next gen come out lol.

that's not confirmed, is it?

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Ombre_Blanco
Just now, keggre said:

that's not confirmed, is it?

Im not 100% sure but i've seen it mentioned. Just imagine 63 opressor mk2's coming after you during a sale 🤣🤣

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Natsuki

Let's go back to 16 player lobbies instead.

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keggre
1 minute ago, Natsuki said:

Let's go back to 16 player lobbies instead.

was 16 old gen?

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LeakyLine
6 minutes ago, keggre said:

was 16 old gen?

Yeah

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Zak Ras said:

But in basic freeroam with 30 players, wouldn't that be more disasterous than the Casino? If you have 10 players on the island that's really far away, but 20 other players on the mainland, and the games trying to process VIP Work, Challenges and Sale missions all at the same time, isn't the engine gonna crap itself?

I hardly think that's a problem.

 

4 hours ago, Zak Ras said:

Wouldn't this (very roughly planned) approach of compartmentalisation give the engine an easier time? I know they've said they don't want to "split up the games population" or words to that effect, but would they rather go back on that like they went back on never making another Heist update after the first one and that there'd be Story Mode DLC in 2014 & 2015, or continue to flood the map of Los Santos with freeroam activity upon freeroam activity until the engine's performance is finally (or should I say; even more) shot to hell?

I don't think free roam activity is the issue, it's more about the whereabouts of this new location in the map. It should be placed, as you said, far away from the mainland, giving the game enough time to reduce the mainland LODs to the lowest levels, then it's all about preserving the performance at appropriate levels. I kinda make it sound easy, but it's not and more likely there's more to it than this.

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keggre
21 minutes ago, LeakyLine said:

Yeah

that would actually make sense then if they were upgrading it again to 64. dunno what they'll do on PC though. because there was never an old gen equivalent of gta v on pc.

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Felipeborges388

So there will be no Liberty City?

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Nutduster
5 minutes ago, Felipeborges388 said:

So there will be no Liberty City?

 

nobody knows. (But no.)

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Next map too?

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Mach1bud

Its a Doomsday Heist inside a UFO hovering over Liberty City but the finale is in North Yankton and M/T/F are there and they are zombies that can't be killed but after a certain amount of respect+ is earned defending the Grove you can recruit them and then they walk aimlessly around your aircraft carrier that is docked at your private island. 

 

Everyone who completes the heist unlocks the GTA VI demo.

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REXX
19 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

Its a Doomsday Heist inside a UFO hovering over Liberty City but the finale is in North Yankton and M/T/F are there and they are zombies that can't be killed but after a certain amount of respect+ is earned defending the Grove you can recruit them and then they walk aimlessly around your aircraft carrier that is docked at your private island. 

 

Everyone who completes the heist unlocks the GTA VI demo.

My dads' uncles' brother in laws' friend of a friends pet lizard told me that you unlock the Mr. Frosty outfit when you complete the finale in North Yankton.

 

Oh and need I not mention that you get the Ice Plasma Raygun Blaster Homing Cannon unlocked for GTAVI too.

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Tenacious
13 hours ago, Up2NoGood45 said:

Is the iFruit app working for anyone?

I accidentally hit “update all” on my iFruit app (iOS 13.6.1, ifruit version 17.0), and I’ve got the same “loads til LS Customs, immediately crashes” issue.

 

by and large they seem to only update once a year, seemingly coinciding with the December updates, so we’ve likely a while before they get it working correctly again,

 

id suggest turn your automatic app updates off, so that you’ve more control over the process for when it’s useable again.  I know I have lol.

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Fun 2
1 hour ago, Mach1bud said:

Everyone who completes the heist unlocks the GTA VI demo.

It's actually much easier than that. You just have to reinstall the game 50 times and my associate shall knock on your door and hand you over GTA VI demo access code.

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El Cavilldo
1 hour ago, Mach1bud said:

Its a Doomsday Heist inside a UFO hovering over Liberty City but the finale is in North Yankton and M/T/F are there and they are zombies that can't be killed but after a certain amount of respect+ is earned defending the Grove you can recruit them and then they walk aimlessly around your aircraft carrier that is docked at your private island. 

 

Everyone who completes the heist unlocks the GTA VI demo.

Everything But The Kitchen Sink DLC confirmed!! 

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Ombre_Blanco
2 hours ago, keggre said:

that would actually make sense then if they were upgrading it again to 64. dunno what they'll do on PC though. because there was never an old gen equivalent of gta v on pc.

probably leave it as is ig

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GT-Aedan

Wishful thinking but there should solo lobbies where you can grind bunker and MC and stuff

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7 hours ago, 3LitersOfMilk said:

The current gen consoles can’t really handle them when there’s a few of them in the air and when a bunch of them crash

To be fair, it kills the FPS on PCs aswell.

 

The problem with the Cargo Plane is the logistics of having it in lobbies...Its a logistical nightmare, let's think about it for a second:

 

It's a INSANELY large airplane, the biggest airplane in the entire series, and it can only - reliably - Take off and land on LSIA and Sandy Shores airfield due to how large it is, and the pilot got pay extra caution on Sandy Shores because if one of the wings clips the poles or rocks around the airfield, the airplane blows up!

 

Then next we assume that all 30 players in the session owns the airplane since it's something we have been wanting to own for ages.

 

Now, how are you gonna fit 30 of those airplanes on the map?

 

With some luck you might be able to spawn 15 Cargo Planes on the LSIA runways, and about 4 of them on Sandy Shores, but this is assuming that none of them are ever taking off because there's literally no room anywhere!

 

This is also assuming that the Cargo Plane is a Pegasus vehicle, since it doesn't fit in the player owned hangars.

 

On top of all of that, the airplane is also not finished.

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Zak Ras
5 hours ago, Ombre_Blanco said:

Just wait until the 64 player lobbies on next gen come out lol.

https://i.imgur.com/yEWO2CW.png

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tcotiago
4 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

I hardly think that's a problem.

 

I don't think free roam activity is the issue, it's more about the whereabouts of this new location in the map. It should be placed, as you said, far away from the mainland, giving the game enough time to reduce the mainland LODs to the lowest levels, then it's all about preserving the performance at appropriate levels. I kinda make it sound easy, but it's not and more likely there's more to it than this.

I'm still supporting the whole "go to the airport and take a plane to another session" kind of idea.

It does segregate yes but there's plenty more people playing gta online, enough for two full sessions I believe! Lol...

The Godfather II game did this pretty well, although single player of course, you could switch between NY, Miami and Cuba at any time using the airport..

 

We already know its LC... Fingers crossed for a Niko Bellic return and a good implementation overall!

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The Jungz
27 minutes ago, tcotiago said:

We already know its LC...

Do we, now?

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keggre
30 minutes ago, tcotiago said:

you could switch between NY, Miami and Cuba at any time using the airport..

project americas confirmed

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rollschuh2282
8 hours ago, MoldyWorm Gaming said:

Before I say what I’m gonna say, you don’t have to believe me, but I have some information about the December DLC and I’m sharing it with you. For those wondering I have got stuff right in the past like the aircraft carrier being added to free mode and the new yacht missions. 
 

Now on to my information: your all expecting a massive map expansion because Rockstar said “and entirely new take on heists in a brand new location” but did it ever occur to you that the doomsday heist was a brand new location? We’ve never been inside mount Chilliad until that point. Yep that’s right we’re gonna be getting a part 2 to the dooms day heist. Rockstar were testing the water adding the aircraft carrier to free mode but in December it will be sticking around for good! Bog Dan was not as good as we all first thought, this time he will be the bad guy and we will have to take him down! He mixed his submarine with the remains of Clifford the AI Bot to make a super sub and now we have to take him out.

 

trust me when I say non of you are ready for the December DLC, it’s gonna be epic!

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