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Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk IX  

381 members have voted

  1. 1. When do you think the next update is going to be REVEALED?

    • October
      15
    • November
      171
    • December
      186
    • January
      9
  2. 2. When do you think the next update is going to be RELEASED?

    • Earlier than December
      16
    • December
      345
    • January
      10
    • Later
      10
  3. 3. Where do you think the new heist will take place?

    • A tropical casino island (e.g. inspired by Catalina Island)
      113
    • A new city or town, or a part of it (e.g. GTA SA's Liberty City bit)
      40
    • We goin' LC bois and gals, Three Leaf Clover style!
      46
    • "New location" is all lies, just a random place in the existing GTA V map!
      182
  4. 4. What do you think will be the highest possible payout for the new heist?

    • < GTA$2M
      74
    • GTA$2M - GTA$3M
      133
    • GTA$3M - GTA$4M
      99
    • GTA$4M - GTA$5M
      43
    • > GTA$5M
      32


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Ombre_Blanco
Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, El Cavilldo said:

I'm in no way versed on game developing, but I naively would ask:

Can the loading time changing lobbies between cities from Los Santos to Liberty City and viceversa be 'masked' with some kind of activity or interactive interior? i.e.:

 

You can take a 'civilian' plane between those cities, with interactive things like onboard consoles, tv, a basic BAWSAQ money laundering app on our phone to transfer our cash between cities, and interaction with other players on the same plane like MarioKart-like videogames on our seats.

 

Or even better, a new version of the Avenger or Luxor for us and our crew: 

Avenger MKII - upgraded with a master computer to update our bussines on both cities (resupplies/upgrades), a cargo bay to transport an exclusive LS vehicle to LC and viceversa, space to crate delivery to make $ between cities, a small snack/booze furniture and a couple arcade games.

Luxor MKII - BAWSAQ advanced app, onboard bar and croupier, tv and game consoles, small space for special items (diamond, fabergé egg, rare fur), VIP party cabin with nightclub-like decoration, NPC escorts. 

 

All this activities on a relatively small interior to keep us distracted while the game changes lobbies on the background,

 

Is that feasible, my tech-savy friends?

 

 

I think the cargo plane would be a better option than the avenger tbh. The Luxor Deluxe should be upgraded too considering the thing cost $10 million lol. AFAIK it comes with an onboard computer and free champagne but yeah they should add more luxurious items onboard and have a master control terminal as well.

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Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, El Cavilldo said:

All this activities on a relatively small interior to keep us distracted while the game changes lobbies on the background,

 

Is that feasible, my tech-savy friends?

I'm not much of an expert on this specific matter, but I think that was one of the core goals Rockstar aimed for with Red Dead Online, which is what's called seamless transition, you see it happening when the game suddenly throw you in another lobby without going through a loading screen. I'm not entirely sure if that was all thanks to RDR2 being fresh and built with new tech, or that specific idea was considered from the very start, thus the tech adapted to it. I personally think it's the latter, that the online mode was designed from the starting point to correspond with that desired result.

Can it be done later on? I don't know, they surely can, but it's a question of would they do it? Rockstar did pull off a multi-part casino heist as in, it loads the first part of the heist, only to unload it and load the second part and so on.

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Black_Jesus

What kind of heist would take place there?

 

I don't see them staying in Los Santos with this one. It could easily be anywhere from the jungles of south America, the streets of Tokyo or some fancy French museum.

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, KingBen said:


It does indeed.

 

The Wrigley Mansion is the most famous mansion on the island. Figured I’d post that because many speculate we could get mansions with this update.

 

https://localwiki.org/media/cache/17/5c/175c7d6e6883ed381ca43758436d40b0.jpg

 


 

here’s some more...

 

https://na.rdcpix.com/1534380224/1a891d2319ee359502ef7d0c2408b398w-c118801xd-w640_h480_q80.jpg

 

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/f4a7ba7/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1143x762+19+0/resize/1680x1120!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F7c%2F19%2F76c09dbf251b99a811c6c21c9f55%2Fla-fi-hotprop-island-escape-gallery-20160511-006

 

 

1 minute ago, Black_Jesus said:

What kind of heist would take place there?

 

I don't see them staying in Los Santos with this one. It could easily be anywhere from the jungles of south America, the streets of Tokyo or some fancy French museum.


My guess would be either a hotel heist or robbing some extremely rich guys Mansion.

 

Both would make sense for the location.

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Ombre_Blanco
2 minutes ago, KingBen said:


It does indeed.

 

The Wrigley Mansion is the most famous mansion on the island. Figured I’d post that because many speculate we could get mansions with this update.

 

https://localwiki.org/media/cache/17/5c/175c7d6e6883ed381ca43758436d40b0.jpg

 

Most likely, if it's gonna be the biggest update ever. I also think the Casino Heist on the island (if they add the island) will feature mixed loot (cash,gold,diamonds,artwork) and you can choose what you want to take or try to take it all.

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Black_Jesus

I think Rockstar wants some levels that are small but take place elsewhere. Like a Small heist here or there so where ever GTA 6 takes place, the Online experience isn't limited.

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KingBen
Just now, Ombre_Blanco said:

Most likely, if it's gonna be the biggest update ever. I also think the Casino Heist on the island (if they add the island) will feature mixed loot (cash,gold,diamonds,artwork) and you can choose what you want to take or try to take it all.

I personally don’t think we will be robbing another casino. They just added the casino in Los Santos. My guess is either a hotel/resort or a really rich guy in his mansion that requires a lot of planning. Maybe we get his Mansion at the end of the heist like in Vice City.

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Mirror Park Resident
14 minutes ago, KingBen said:

https://www.islapedia.com/images/thumb/d/d4/SCAT_Airport.png/400px-SCAT_Airport.png

 

Santa Catalina Island has runways for those who were wondering.

Even without that, they could just put an airfield in "their" island and no one would complain. They're almost not limited by any real life stuff.

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Ombre_Blanco
3 minutes ago, Black_Jesus said:

What kind of heist would take place there?

 

I don't see them staying in Los Santos with this one. It could easily be anywhere from the jungles of south America, the streets of Tokyo or some fancy French museum.

The island? there's a casino resort and museum. There's also mansions so we could steal stuff from. The casino could possible have mixed loot (cash,gold,artwork,diamonds) and you can take what you want.

They could also launch a heist at the Kortz Center or Observatory where we steal artifacts. 

Or they could launch a heist in Fort Zancudo where we break into the bunker and steal whatever is inside, or we could attack the aircraft carrier and steal an experimental weapon/equipment.

Or they could take us to LC where we rob the LC Bank and/or museum idk.

Finally they could just say screw it and let us rob the Union Depository's gold reserves again.

It's also possible they could add all of this. But take this with a grain of salt its speculation.

But im almost certain we will get 4-6 heists maybe more if we're lucky.

 

7 minutes ago, KingBen said:

I personally don’t think we will be robbing another casino. They just added the casino in Los Santos. My guess is either a hotel/resort or a really rich guy in his mansion that requires a lot of planning. Maybe we get his Mansion at the end of the heist like in Vice City.

They could let us rob both lol.

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GTAhare
38 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

I just wanna say that, back in 2014/2015, Rockstar was working on a single-player expansion that would have introduced three episodes, on top of the rumored Liberty City map expansion, each episode would have featured drastic changes to the environment or the scenery, one would alter the map to make it look a zombie apocalypse is happening, the other is the same ordinary set but with new buildings like the Casino opening, another was said to feature an Alien invasion. In addition to all that, you had PS4/X1/PC versions of the game in development.

I don't know about limitations, but Rockstar was going nuts.

 

How come NONE of those things ever happened? I understand canceling single player DLC but couldn’t they have ported say, the zombie apocalypse map to Online with an update?

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El Cavilldo
10 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

I'm not much of an expert on this specific matter, but I think that was one of the core goals Rockstar aimed for with Red Dead Online, which is what's called seamless transition, you see it happening when the game suddenly throw you in another lobby without going through a loading screen. I'm not entirely sure if that was all thanks to RDR2 being fresh and built with new tech, or that specific idea was considered from the very start, thus the tech adapted to it. I personally think it's the latter, that the online mode was designed from the starting point to correspond with that desired result.

Can it be done later on? I don't know, they surely can, but it's a question of would they do it? Rockstar did pull off a multi-part casino heist as in, it loads the first part of the heist, only to unload it and load the second part and so on.

Thank you, I'm glad to know that it's posible to go between both cities without been on Cloud Simulator Mode forever, lol.

 

Really interesting also your post about those lost zombie/alien/casino DLCs; GTAO success were also a disgrace for many R* projects, it seems.

I wouldn't be surprised if R* have this expansions as an ace under their sleeves to buy some time if GTA VI takes longer to be developed.
They could sell a 'Grand Theft Auto: Los Santos Stories' spinoff game to keep us busy for at least another year or two. 

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B_E_N_1992

Once Liberty City is open, I’m never going back to LS.

 

“After 7 years on the West-coast, it was time to go home.”

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KingBen
6 minutes ago, Mirror Park Resident said:

Even without that, they could just put an airfield in "their" island and no one would complain. They're almost not limited by any real life stuff.

Of course. I just wanted to let people know the island does have runways. 

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Piro
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Zak Ras said:

Well, by Crook Activity, I mean any of the newer criminal activities (whatever they would've been) the update would've brought in with it, not so much the older SecuroServ/MC stuff from 2016-18

1 hour ago, keggre said:

I think he said the cops wouldn't be allowed to use non lspd vehicles.

i think it would be pretty cool. you'd be able to make more money as a cop than just blowing stuff up with an mk2. it might incentivise some griefers to play as cops and use lower quality hardware. I'm sure all those griefers dream of being cops anyway :)

Yeah I feel like people could easily find a way to exploit that system. They would go to a cop car, see where the cargo is on the map and go back on oppressors/jets. Or just fallow other cop cars on the map and spoil the whole fun of this concept for both sides. Griefers don't do that for money, they just want to annoy you. And the majority of them probably wouldn't crave to play as a cop, quite the opposite. 90% of them would rather cosplay as jokers or clown posses... have you seen how they dress? 

I think theres a reason why people from R* scrapped that original concept in the early versions the game. They said the idea sucked and wasn't as fun as they expected it to be. So if they wanted to do something with CnC I'm sure they had to figure out something that actually worked, something fun.

@Fun 2 maybe you remember some details from that original concept of CnC in alpha gtao? Or anyone else? I only remember something about different factions/gangs and taking territory like in gtaSA. But I doubt they would use those ideas again. Unless taking territory is PvE. Like advanced version of gang attacks.

I also remember something about cop medals and calling a backup from different gangs.
 

1 hour ago, Ombre_Blanco said:

I think it will be a workaround update. It could possibly be a import/export part 2 update where we use police vehicles to go undercover and steal rival vehicles and drugs/cargo to bring back to your business. It could be GTA version's of NFS Hot Pursuit. Regardless of what R* does we will probably get one more update after the heists update before they move over to next gen.

You just pitching I/E part 2 not CnC. That's a completely different concept. When people talk about CnC they usually refer to the mode from GTA4. Or the CnC stuff from FiveM. You also pretend to be a cop/fbi agent in previous heists, but you wouldn't call those CnC, wouldn't ya?

But if we talking I/E part 2 I think we should be able to steal and sell other vehicles, not only cars. Special missions with stealing aircrafts from aicraft carrier, stealing boats, bikes, all kind of vehicles. 

 

24 minutes ago, Black_Jesus said:

What kind of heist would take place there?

I don't see them staying in Los Santos with this one. It could easily be anywhere from the jungles of south America, the streets of Tokyo or some fancy French museum.

We stealing my little friend from Tony Montana. And his coke. And his tiger.
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And for that second part, nah. GTA is a parody of usa. I don't see us traveling outside of it for a heist.
 

10 minutes ago, GTAhare said:

How come NONE of those things ever happened? I understand canceling single player DLC but couldn’t they have ported say, the zombie apocalypse map to Online with an update?

You don't know how early those projects got canceled. But they surly ported parts of it. In Arena Wars you have some postapocalyptic buildings and bridges that you can find on the map. Also some alien buildings as well.

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Posted (edited)

There's so much discussion of the location, that I forgot about the multi-part thing, as in how part A could lead into either part B or part C depending on your actions.

I'm genuinely curious as to how they could pull this one off. Plus the mixture of the new location, just expands the possibilities and heats up the anticipation. This new heist could turn out to be more complex than the Casino Heist.

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GTAhare

I do speculate the reason that there was so much being worked on that never happened could’ve been because due to corruption there was an unrealistic ambition for the game that was unrealistic to the point where it canceled itself out. Hopefully with working conditions allegedly improving stuff like this will become less of a possibility

 

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11 minutes ago, GTAhare said:

 

How come NONE of those things ever happened? I understand canceling single player DLC but couldn’t they have ported say, the zombie apocalypse map to Online with an update?

I don't think it makes sense to begin with, it made sense for single-player, but in online? I mean in a world with flying cars, flying bikes, laser weapons and an Orbital cannon, the undead would be of your least concern. Another big factor is that it sounds like the most convenient way of doing this is to separate lobbies, which is something Rockstar doesn't want to do as they have stated in previous interviews. Same principle is applied to Red Dead Online, which is why there are no private lobbies over there.

They can always do it in a form of a limited-time event in which zombies take over the map, but that's too much effort for content that would last for a week or two.

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1 minute ago, Fun 2 said:

I don't think it makes sense to begin with, it made sense for single-player, but in online? I mean in a world with flying cars, flying bikes, laser weapons and an Orbital cannon, the undead would be of your least concern. Another big factor is that it sounds like the most convenient way of doing this is to separate lobbies, which is something Rockstar doesn't want to do as they have stated in previous interviews. Same principle is applied to Red Dead Online, which is why there are no private lobbies over there.

They can always do it in a form of a limited-time event in which zombies take over the map, but that's too much effort for content that would last for a week or two.

If the DLC was supposedly mostly done why not just release it for single player then and make money after you spent money making a zombie map? That’s what doesn’t make sense to me.

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5 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

There's so much discussion of the location, that I forgot about the multi-part thing, as in how part A could lead into either part B or part C depending on your actions.

I'm genuinely curious as to how they could pull this one off. Plus mixed with a new location, which just expands the possibilities and heats up the anticipation. This new heist could turn out to be more complex than the Casino Heist.

Yeah they always play with previous ideas and expend them. If we had elements of randomness in Casino heist, I'm sure they will turn that to 11 with the next one.

Random items to steal, npcs in different places (depending on who's on the shift). Different things could go wrong leading to different ways of escaping. You start sneaking but you screw up? it turns into a loud approach. You planted a getaway vehicle but someone stole it? You have to improvise a new way of escaping etc.

There's a lot of possibilities on a small island. It could literally be an island designed solely around that new heist. Like a level of Hitman with multiple endings. 
 

11 minutes ago, GTAhare said:

I do speculate the reason that there was so much being worked on that never happened could’ve been because due to corruption there was an unrealistic ambition for the game that was unrealistic to the point where it canceled itself out. Hopefully with working conditions allegedly improving stuff like this will become less of a possibility

Nah, it was money. Why waste time and resources on something thats very hard and time consuming when you can earn waaaaay more money by the fraction of that work by making small online updates?
 

1 minute ago, GTAhare said:

If the DLC was supposedly mostly done why not just release it for single player then and make money after you spent money making a zombie map? That’s what doesn’t make sense to me.

First time I'm hearing that it was supposedly "mostly done". If that was true they would surly release it years ago.

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Payout also randomly decreases by 50%. Heist randomly fails. Team mates are randomly kicked. I’m sure we’ll have plenty of randomization alright. 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, KingBen said:

https://www.islapedia.com/images/thumb/d/d4/SCAT_Airport.png/400px-SCAT_Airport.png

 

Santa Catalina Island has runways for those who were wondering.

 

I was scoping out the island on Google Earth for a while and I didn't find a single airport. I was looking for flat areas where ya know, airports usually are. 

 

nope. the airport is on top of a mountain. they better base the airport off the real life one if they're doing sc because that airport looks super cool. there are steep dropoffs off both ends of the runway.

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16 minutes ago, keggre said:

 

I was scoping out the island on Google Earth for a while and I didn't find a single airport. I was looking for flat areas where ya know, airports usually are. 

 

nope. the airport is on top of hill/mountain. they better base the airport off the real life one if they're doing sc because that airport looks super cool. there are steep dropoffs off both ends of the runway.

am i the only one that things the area around the airport like the grass and such aslreaqdy looks almost identical to V?

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1 hour ago, Fun 2 said:

There's so much discussion of the location, that I forgot about the multi-part thing, as in how part A could lead into either part B or part C depending on your actions.

I'm genuinely curious as to how they could pull this one off. Plus the mixture of the new location, just expands the possibilities and heats up the anticipation. This new heist could turn out to be more complex than the Casino Heist.

Like that gta iv deal or revenge choice?

Interesting

 

i wonder if lester or agent or someone totally new or we know already is involved on the heist

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Posted (edited)

So I tweeted this but I'll post it here anyway.
You know that now there's over 40, 50, 80 vehicles in certain classes... yeah well pushing left and right to go through the selection before a race is nonsense, especially if other players choose their vehicles quickly, cutting the timer right down... 

 

I mocked up a 2021 design that Rockstar could perhaps use. It would still mean quite a few button presses for certain vehicles but overall the process should be nicer and more streamlined. 

This is just for the sports class below. 

 

7acxqX8.png

What's that I hear you say? You don't know the vehicle manufacturers? No problem, just change the Vehicle List option from "Logos & Names" to "Classic" and then you'll get the legacy left-and-right choice system we've had from day one.

 
EDIT: Oh there's an extra thought... Maybe we could use the garage re-arrange vehicles system to set "Favourites" and then have that listed as a Vehicle List option, where only those vehicles show up (class-specific). 

All this could perhaps also apply to the heists vehicle selection menu.

 

... 

 

I also did another one which is actually the screen before that. The picture's linked, but basically at the top it'd be your outfit choice, below that the winning toast, and then three options:
- Pre-Upgraded Vehicles
- Stock Vehicles

- Personal Vehicles

 

Pre-Upgraded Vehicles > enter > these would cost $2500 per race in case the newer player didn't have a custom vehicle but wanted to at least be competitive. Could list all the vehicles or just take the top 10 in the class or something. 

Stock Vehicles > enter > costs the standard $100 that everyone normally pays if they don't have a Personal Vehicle and presents the full class list to choose from.
Personal Vehicles > enter > costs nothing / entry cost refunded, and only the cars you own (and therefore only the relevant manufacturers) would be listed. 

Actually this is more of a wishlist post... Meh. 

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keggre
3 minutes ago, rollschuh2282 said:

am i the only one that things the area around the airport like the grass and such aslreaqdy looks almost identical to V?

they should just do the fs2020 thing and just copy and paste the satellite imagery. boom entirely new location done

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14 minutes ago, Gaffa said:

So I tweeted this but I'll post it here anyway.
You know that now there's over 40, 50, 80 vehicles in certain classes... yeah well pushing left and right to go through the selection before a race is nonsense, especially if other players choose their vehicles quickly, cutting the timer right down... 

 

I mocked up a 2021 design that Rockstar could perhaps use. It would still mean quite a few button presses for certain vehicles but overall the process should be nicer and more streamlined. 

This is just for the sports class below.

 

Spoiler

7acxqX8.png


What's that I hear you say? You don't know the vehicle manufacturers? No problem, just change the Vehicle List from "Logos & Names" to "Classic" and then you'll get the legacy left-and-right choice system we've had from day one. 

 

I also did another one which is actually the screen before that. I won't post the picture, but basically at the top it'd be your outfit choice, below that the winning toast, and then three options:
- Pre-Upgraded Vehicles
- Stock Vehicles

- Personal Vehicles

 

Pre-Upgraded Vehicles > enter > these would cost $2500 per race in case the newer player didn't have a custom vehicle but wanted to at least be competitive. Could list all the vehicles or just take the top 10 in the class or something. 

Stock Vehicles > enter > costs the standard $100 that everyone normally pays if they don't have a Personal Vehicle and presents the full class list to choose from.
Personal Vehicles > enter > costs nothing / entry cost refunded, and only the cars you own (and therefore only the relevant manufacturers) would be listed. 

Actually this is more of a wishlist post... Meh. 

another option is they could copy the vehicle selection screen on theivaneh community server on fivem
 

 

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Gaffa

Oh well for sure that one's better ^ absolutely. 
I did all that with a screenshot and Paint3D - so you can probably tell my "creative ability" is next to none. :D 

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