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Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk IX  

381 members have voted

  1. 1. When do you think the next update is going to be REVEALED?

    • October
      15
    • November
      171
    • December
      186
    • January
      9
  2. 2. When do you think the next update is going to be RELEASED?

    • Earlier than December
      16
    • December
      345
    • January
      10
    • Later
      10
  3. 3. Where do you think the new heist will take place?

    • A tropical casino island (e.g. inspired by Catalina Island)
      113
    • A new city or town, or a part of it (e.g. GTA SA's Liberty City bit)
      40
    • We goin' LC bois and gals, Three Leaf Clover style!
      46
    • "New location" is all lies, just a random place in the existing GTA V map!
      182
  4. 4. What do you think will be the highest possible payout for the new heist?

    • < GTA$2M
      74
    • GTA$2M - GTA$3M
      133
    • GTA$3M - GTA$4M
      99
    • GTA$4M - GTA$5M
      43
    • > GTA$5M
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Where can I find weekly updates in OpenVI ?

 

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4 minutes ago, cup_of_coffee2 said:

Where can I find weekly updates in OpenVI ?

 

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You mean tunables? you can't they are on R*s servers. You can access them thru the html but sometimes they're encoded aswell...

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Piro
23 minutes ago, TheFranchise said:

Someone said that GTA V was made to support potential map expansions and that GTA VI was "rebooted" 

Is there any links to where I could read more about this.

- Try looking in GTAV Beta Hunt Thread. I remember reading that the game was made to support map expansions. The basic idea was 3 SP dlcs, 3 different versions of the same map (zombie apocalypse, alien invasion etc). But there was also something about being able to load completely different maps if they ever wanted to do that in the future. You could also ask Yan or Fun. They surly remember more then I do

- GTA VI wasn't "rebooted" lol. It wasn't even released yet
 

16 minutes ago, keggre said:

what other hints were there besides that gtaforums icon? and where was that posted anyway?

Oh man I don't know... they changed the icon like 5-8 times with different hints hidden behind ciphers. You would have to go to page 412 or even farther back.

But iHitman made a small summery of it here. Dunno if thats the most recent version tho.

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joel15cat
34 minutes ago, Piro said:

(yeah I know, the game sucks. We don't need to talk about it)

What?

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Well hopefully if we do get a new island it's big enough to create some good races on, both street and off road..

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B_E_N_1992

I hope all the fast food restaurants are enterable like in IV with the Liberty City online update this December. Also all the 24/7 / convenient stores of course.

 

It would be a big back step if the fast food restaurants are like V (not enterable).

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Black-Dragon96
1 hour ago, Piro said:

So a small minority would visit it couple times until they add more content to it. So what? R* still wins cause everyone would have to buy everything for the second time when they eventually add it. It would be the same story with a small island, NY, LC and any other location we can think of.

No I'm actually thinking a big majority would visit it only a couple of times.

 

Like I said maybe I'm underestimating the "I need more content every month or the game is dead." sharkcard buying demographic and people would stick around.

Maybe you are overestimating them and it would go down like I expect it to.

 

1 hour ago, Piro said:

And If LS and LC were in the same lobby (very unlikely) they would have be soooooo far away from each other that having 1 extra loading screen would still be faster then flying there on your own.

Thats another reason why I think LC wont be a expansion to online.

 

1 hour ago, Piro said:

But no matter if they made NY small or waaay bigger then we expect, it still would be in a separate lobby. You do realize that, right? You expect to take a couple minute flight to North Yankton and see snow there? Also NY isn't an island from what I remember. So they can't just add it in the same lobby. That would feel weird if you ask me.

I'm very well aware that NY would require a new lobby.

Thats why I have the opinion that it is about as likely as LC or any other big expansion that would require a new lobby. Not very much.

 

I was just pointing out that people said NY wont happen because "there is nothing to do" while apparently people think LC would work despit there only being a heist and no other missions.

 

1 hour ago, Piro said:

The main reason why gtao is so laggy after all those years is that they keep stacking updates on top of each other and they never touch the old code. And because of that its full of badly optimized scripts. If they started from scratch on a new map its possible that the added content would be more optimized since they would know what they would be working with from the very start. So lets say while LS runs 200 scripts LC could run on 20 scripts (obviously I'm using random numbers as an example here)

LC would still be part of the same unoptimized mess.

It would load from the same files, through the same sh*tty matchmaking.

If anything adding LC in yet another Lobby would probaly make the loading even worse since the game would have to choose a diffrent lobby type. Just imagine all the potential matchmaking f*ckups when you want to join a buddy who is in a LC lobby while you are in an LS lobby.

The fact that the game would need to load the entire map before you could switch to LC. That would cause loadtimes as long as the loadtimes when you load into Online from the menu/ from singleplayer after you just launched the game every time you wanted to go to a diffrent city.

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Its totally plausible and the map would support something the size of liberty city but it would be expensive on radios and voice acting

 

 

id say they would add something not out of the state, really

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13 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

I was just pointing out that people said NY wont happen because "there is nothing to do" while apparently people think LC would work despit there only being a heist and no other missions.

If R* was adding LC back then I'm sure there would be more than just a Heist there. They would add the basic stuff like Stores, Races, Contact Missions and Free Mode Events. They wouldn't just leave it with a heist...

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2 minutes ago, FortifiedGooner86 said:

If R* was adding LC back then I'm sure there would be more than just a Heist there. They would add the basic stuff like Stores, Races, Contact Missions and Free Mode Events. They wouldn't just leave it with a heist...

Lol yeah... 

"All that stuff is for PS5, Xbox X and PC and will be the summer update 2021 for them". 

🤔

Imagine... the heist is just a teaser. 

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Retro_Causality

anything new?

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VitoCorleone1992
1 hour ago, Piro said:

You know what they also have on Catalina Island? Bisons! But I doubt they would port those from RDR2 lol. Would be fun tho.
Imagine a bison hitting your car and flipping it over like you just got hit with up-n-atomizer. 

Also another fun fact - Catalina Island also appeared at the ending of TLoU2 (yeah I know, the game sucks. We don't need to talk about it)
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- First a speculation after the newswire post cause it makes sense
- Some hints from mods and admins of this forum about Catalina Island
- Me and a lot of people been pitching tiny islands for years now. From small private islands that would work the same way as yachts to a new location the size of paleto bay. Something like this:

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Well if you think this looks like Catalina island in the background you might consider this a leak I guess

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How tf bisons went there? 😛

30 minutes ago, skc_2srk said:

Its totally plausible and the map would support something the size of liberty city but it would be expensive on radios and voice acting

 

 

id say they would add something not out of the state, really

Yeah...poor R* that can't afford that...
For real, when they do an investiment, they go by the safety of it. They would waste the major sum on the copyright songs, but that dlc would sell so well that they would profit way more than the expense.

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48 minutes ago, skc_2srk said:

Its totally plausible and the map would support something the size of liberty city but it would be expensive on radios and voice acting

we have one musician DJ Whoo Kid, an NYC native, who’s said that he had been working with Rockstar on the next GTA will take place in Liberty City again back in 2014. He could have been referring to a DLC

 

we have also have another NYC based music group, City Morgue, who claims that they will also be working with Rockstar on a future project. 

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keggre
1 hour ago, Piro said:

But iHitman made a small summery of it here. Dunno if thats the most recent version tho.

cool ty

 

I might try to do some investigating myself and see if that icon matches up with anything on SC.

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Tez2
8 hours ago, Piro said:

And when they start releasing businesses on the new map, the griefers would fallow. Not to mention they were already testing different lobby types in the past according to Fun.

Worth clarifying that the intent wasn't to come up with a different lobby type, but more of exploring various ways of facilitating the launch of the Casino Heist.

10 hours ago, Chrom said:

Is it possible they can switch to dedicated servers just with an Update? Or does it require a complete new game with an updated Rage engine?

For Honor did just that with a title update.

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Posted (edited)

OK so,

Spoiler

 

- Mach, Spider & WildBrick are full-on downplaying Liberty City.

- Mach mentioned the idea of from now til the Heist update having a few smaller 2014 style updates each month or two, no real discussion around that.

- People hate the idea of Liberty City being added.

- People love the idea of Liberty City being added.

- People now hate Santa Catalina Island for existing off the coast of Los Angeles.

 

 

- I just want to know 2 things...

- legitimate information about the next DLC, so I can actually start being invested.

- if the Cops N Crooks DLC is simply being held off, reworked a little or full-on cancelled.

 

Right now, everything is too vague or non-existent to be worth putting any discussion into, other than there being a new Heist later this year, but even then we don't have anything to go on for that.

- Original Heists, we were straight up shown a team robbing the Pacific Standard Bank in the Online reveal trailer, 18+ months before they were released.

- Doomsday, Agent 14 had that teaser line at the end of Gunrunning... that was in June that year.

- Casino, the Casino finally opened after nearly 6 years of "Soon", people had been wanting to rob that for years, then we started getting increased activity surrounding the Casino, Gruppe Sechs van, the Lester Hack, etc.

- Heists 4, ......they'll exist by the end of 2020.......

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"entirely new location" kind of discounts LC, LV, SF, VC, NY etc. does it not? Those are all technically not entirely new locations. I think the Santa Catalina (whatever it's being called) speculation makes the most sense, since it would actually be something we've never seen before. I'm not an expert on the inner workings of the game, but from what I understand about the way the map is loaded in proximity to you... if they place it far enough away from the main island it really can't hurt performance too much being able to travel there without loading screens and separating lobbies.

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Posted (edited)

 

 

1 hour ago, Black-Dragon96 said:
Spoiler

 

No I'm actually thinking a big majority would visit it only a couple of times.

(...)

I'm very well aware that NY would require a new lobby.

Thats why I have the opinion that it is about as likely as LC or any other big expansion that would require a new lobby. Not very much.
I was just pointing out that people said NY wont happen because "there is nothing to do" while apparently people think LC would work despit there only being a heist and no other missions.

(...)

Just imagine all the potential matchmaking f*ckups when you want to join a buddy who is in a LC lobby while you are in an LS lobby.(...)

 

 

Spoiler

- That would depend solely on the amount of content they would add at day one. But even if (at first) they added a completely empty LC, even without npcs or traffic, I'm still sure that 90% of players would keep visiting it simply because its a new map. It would be like the early days of gtao/rdro where people just screw around without a purpose until they add something to it. Not to mention the ability to use creator so the community could make their own stuff. That would keep them entertained for a veeeery long time.
 
But obviously R* wouldn't do that. If they would add LC I'm sure it would have some extra content, even if its something simple at first. But I'm sure they wouldn't port ALL of the old content and businesses right away lol. And if we talking about a heist in LC and nothing else - even if we assume you couldn't go to LC in freeroam, people would still keep replaying that single heist for years to come just to see a very small portion of LC. After all people are still replaying the original heists and DDH, don't they? 

- Waait... so you keep arguing that LC would have to be in the same lobby as LS cause people hate loading screens, right? (unless LC has exactly the same amount of content as LC) But you also think NY would be a good location even tho it would have to be in a different lobby? Even tho its a much smaller place then LC? Lol... So wait... how would you add all the consent from LS to NY? Like... where? What about planes? You obviously couldn't use those since its not an island, its a small town in the middle of nowhere. Thats the first problem I see here. Compering LC to NY is like compering LS to Paleto Bay. 

- You would get a message "you trying to join a friend in a different city. Are you sure you want to reload the game? Y/N". I see no problems with that. Its the same kind of message you get when you trying to join a crew lobby or a different aim type lobby. Its just the loading would last a little bit longer.

  

1 hour ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

How tf bisons went there? 😛

Thats... thats a great question! I have no idea lol. You just made me check wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalina_Island_bison_herd
 

56 minutes ago, kingkontinuum said:

we have one musician DJ Whoo Kid, an NYC native, who’s said that he had been working with Rockstar on the next GTA will take place in Liberty City again back in 2014. He could have been referring to a DLC

He could also refer to GTA VI or that canceled GTA IV remaster that we think they were working on (basing it on a single pic from portfolio but nvm)
 

2 hours ago, joel15cat said:

What?

What part of We don't need to talk about it you don't understand? xd
Either way - lets just stay on topic here.

 

17 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

Worth clarifying that the intent wasn't to come up with a different lobby type, but more of exploring various ways of facilitating the launch of the Casino Heist.

Ohhhhh so that was it? Shame... My theories were:

- they were tested a new lobby for that new location

- they were tested a new lobby type for CnC (cause I can't see it working in the current version of freeroam. Sounds more like Griefers vs Grinders... I was thinking it would work like a glorified adversary mode. Something between Arena War and Vespucci Job. So buying a property, upgrading cars, using them in a different lobby) 

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Also someone had mentioned the idea of the missing CNC stuff not actually being a clue to a cut CNC update but actually just new police content for the new island and I think that makes a lot more sense.

 

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4 hours ago, MGgames100 said:

I'm writing this to clear some misconceptions and throw my few cents into the hat about the upcoming update and the map expansion that everyone is talking about. I've talked about this topic with few of the people that really know their stuff from technical perspective and some people that know other people that know cousin of the Rockstars Janitor's brother-in-law. Still this is really just a speculation, a speculation dripped slightly with leaks and based on the evidence and the rumors I've heard, but still a speculation so take it with a butt load of salt. 
I'll be talking about three possibilities regarding the map expansion. I do believe that I won't be just a new interior or building on the current map and it will be, in fact a map expansion. There are few prominent theories about it, but I want to start with the least possible of them - VC, LV and SF. There's NO way they'd create those maps and just casually use them in the GTAO for free. I'll however go back to those however slightly later and I'll take a look at another location that was suggested - San Diego and Tijuana. I'd say that it would be a really cool and unique idea but I doubt something like this would happen, see the above. San Diego and Tijuana, although smaller than LA are still pretty big and I don't think that the team that creates the DLCs have the manpower to create so complex stuff. This is why I'm not going to really going to go into more details about it neither.


Let's begin looking at our first possibility: North Yankton. (Side note, I'll be referring to North Yankton as NY, don't get confused with New York lmao)
North Yankton would be that classic Rockstar laziness that they are known for. They basically have all the assets ready. The basic map, the pedestrians and the vehicles, all as of yet unused in GTAO. For years they've been constantly reusing parts of the SP, whether it's an interior or majority of content from scrapped DLC *cough* Doomsday Heists *cough*. It could also create a really unique terrain that we only have access to one or twice a year - snow. Snowmobiles would be a really interesting concept. As much of the NY  they already have they would need to add about the same amount of stuff to it. Let's be honest, there isn't really much going on in NY. There was the depo that was used in prologue and the church and graveyard. Rest are just non-solid buildings and empty fields. The NY is also suspended in midair slightly above the LS Docks which results in basically it being a mission only place and I think that Rockstar wants to give us more places to go to in Freeroam, more about that later.  I'd also say that robbing the same place as in SP as Heists finale would suck ass. Unless they do Doomsday Pt2 and underground facility where there is hidden alien spacecraft or FIB base or some sh*t like that. That was my personal problem with Doomsday, sh*t just magically appeared around the map and I'd rather not go this route again. The fact that it is actually set in different state, far away from LS is also another minus. It would result in the additional lobbies for it, if it was available in Freeroam ofc. All that being said, I feel like a Setup mission where you'd go steal some important MacGuffin from that bank and escape using the Snowmobiles or something like that. It would be kick ass and allow them to use this pretty big although empty map imho.

 

Another highly discussed possibility is the Liberty City.
A lot of people point out to a lot of references to GTA IV in recent update. My response to it, Rockstar been doing such things for years. The references to GTA III, GTA VC, GTA SA, Manhunt, GTA IV&EFLC, it really means nothing. Just because they've put QUB3D (best addition to the game from this update btw) and some t-shirts doesn't mean jack really. Maybe there was some reference to GTA IV with CnC, maybe we meet some character from IV and they've decided to add it in for nostalgia sake, we don't know. Also for love of God stop mentioning the Solomon picture with Niko, it's been there since 2013, just a simple Easter Egg nothing more! Really the same problems with North Yankton can be applied here and I'd say that LC has even more problems. Outside if the fact they would have to create separate lobbies for Freeroam (if it had one), they would have to create so much more than compared to Yankton. With Yankton they at least had Peds ready, here they would have to create so much more than  just few more, due to fact how different the LS and LC (and LA and New York) the communities are. Jews, Russians, Italians, Jamaicans and so much more are non-existent in LS as pedestrians, they would just have to add em and they would result spending a big money on the voicework alone especially during the quarantine. They could reuse a lot of voiceovers and models from GTA IV, but would you really like to get the same content that's 13 years old at this point? It would feel like they'd put GTA SA models back to V, bad and outta place. And no you can't just plop the There is also a problem with radio (which is really expensive), pathfinding for NPCs, different weather and endless things of other stuff that you don't really think about such as underwater tunnels (that aren't possible with the GTA Vs water engine) and seabed that would have to be made from 0 to small things such as police radio chatter that would  need to be redone completely. There is also a possibility of them using a part of the LC similarly to the North Yankton, but really where would be fun in that. I'd say it would really suck if we had like 3 streets and 2 interiors for us to actually explore. I think it would defeat the purpose of setting the Heist there at all. Also there is also the fact that what is there to rob in the LC? There is Liberty Bank, but we already robbed it, there is BAWSAQ and LCN, but I don't think robbing it would be kinda pointless, there are no real assets there and robbing stocks is useless. There's also a prison but we already have Prison Break heist. There is also a museum, but I'd say robbing the Kortz Center or Galileo Observatory would be more interesting than LC Museum. Maybe you could come up with something, I personally can't really. All that being said I do believe that they'll add LC to GTAO at some point in time, just not now. It's quite obvious that they want it to go as long as possible and I feel like after they update the engine to actually support the map expansions (cuz currently it's near impossible, they increased TXD limits and game can casually sh*t itself from time to time) the gates for LC might be open. In fact I feel like we will get VC *cough*and other map(s) that will be coming with it*cough* to GTAO if you own GTA VI and vice versa. They wouldn't really sperate it from GTA V for no reason after 8 years of support. It's quite obvious what their plans are. But that's kinda off topic right now 😉

 

And finally we left the most possible for last; Santa Catalina Island

In my opinion this is what we will get in December. It has pretty much everything you'd want from such a place. It's big but not too big, it only has two cities (well one small city and village), places to rob, it is close to LA and it wouldn't have and so much more. 
First of all - radios. Guess what: Santa Catalina receives radio from LA. They also have two (from the research I've conducted) stations of their own. I'd say Rockstars would definitely go with an option to add only one or two new stations over adding 5-10 for new region, whether it would be LC or something else. Pedestrians? Reuse 'em from LS, the climate is exactly the same so they won't look outta place. It would be perfect addition for the Freeroam, it would give boats and aircrafts (because there's an actual airport in there) a new life. If we'd get a new homes there, whether villas or just regular houses, we could easily transport our cars from LS to SC, because irl the ferries go from LA to SC. They could easily remodel one of the pretty much unused warehouses that crowd the LS Docks into the Ferry terminal. Going back to the "places to rob", Santa Catalina has a sh*t ton of luxury houses (which I believe will be the main part of the Heists), it has small but pretty casino that also hosts art gallery, museum and they might add some other made-up place because unlike two candidates before it this is pretty much empty canvas. There's also something you can't steal - beautiful views. As much as I love LC I don't think it has views like these:

 

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I feel like there is literally no better candidate for map expansion than it. I'd take it over a small part of LC or forever frozen Yankton any day. 

 

TLDR: This will be map expansion, no VC, LV or SF, Yankton is too boring of a place imo, LC would need too much attention, overall Santa Catalina knockoff is most likely. 

this is a good post i am no expert  but i disagree on certain things one the lobby system  it could work they do it now in online for adversary modes and arena wars anyway so it is nothing new to rockstar so an lc lobby is not impossible . 

 

as for peds in ls in lc this a void point  if we get lc and it is a big if i agree they would not use peds from current map anyway they will reuse gta 4 map and peds if this happens . 

its a matter of updating the graphics and reusing the voiceover from those peds which is i imagine rockstars property so they can reuse them anyway same way they did when they ported gta v to the current gen to pc i  would be certain all peds were reused from last gen so this is the same thing .  

 

radio stations same thing rockstar have the rights to reuse this songs and assets they only got rid of songs that were in gta 4 in 2018 because they lost the rights to certain songs most songs they have the rights so they can be reused same as they will reuse the same songs and stations in the next gen gta v. 

 

and third point we dont know how long they have been working on a potential lc expansion in 2014 at least with the dj whoo kid interview i thought it was for 6 but with other leaks it seems it was for the scrapped lc project . 

 

it is a lot of hard work to redo lc i agree but to say it would break the current gen version by adding a map less then half the size is nonsense not like they are not bigger maps and other versions of nyc on this gen the crew 2 spiderman they look pretty well. 

it would be a win win for rockstar  have lc alongside the current map it would sell this version for another year or two . 

not to mention it would hype players for the new online give them a reason to buy it ls and lc  updated grpahics on next gen people will pay for that. 

 

sony paid rockstar money for the  new online for ps5 players to sell ps5s the winter update will be around the same time the ps5 releases albeit it will next year before the new online is out you know if you get the ps5 now  in a few months you are getting two of the best cities in the gta franchise for free in a few months if you get a ps5 that it good marketing . 

yes you can make the point if the winter update is lc it will be on current gen but if we get lc i do think it will be barebones probably the heist base as a location and thats it with the real updates to come with the  new online . 

this will be the last update to current gen regardless so a barebones lc to get players hyped for the new online would not break the system push it yes but it would be doable.  

 

although i  do agree they could be legs to the saint catlina island map expansion i imagine they could keep it with sp so that would be less of a headache and they did say expanded and enhanced so  adding this island to the next gen gta v to would fall into that category 

 

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7 minutes ago, Piro said:

 Ohhhhh so that was it? Shame... My theories were:

- they were tested a new lobby type for CnC (cause I can't see it working in the current version of freeroam. Sounds more like Griefers vs Grinders... I was thinking it would work like a glorified adversary mode. Something between Arena War and Vespucci Job) 

I mean, there's always the idea of the APB replacing the Global Signal, that way it can act like a VS version of Casino Work.

 

Player does Crook related activity in freeroam, APB goes out just like Global Signal, but ONLY to Players who are registered as Cops at that moment, doing their own stuff around the map... like say for instance... any player with a Wanted Level is worth ($5000 x Number of Wanted Stars) to kill, but using any weaponized vehicles not sanctioned by the LSPD gets you kicked off the force for a 15-30 minute cooldown.

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16 minutes ago, riotvision said:

Also someone had mentioned the idea of the missing CNC stuff not actually being a clue to a cut CNC update but actually just new police content for the new island and I think that makes a lot more sense.

 

There's much more to it than to be taken as simply new police content for the next update.

Spoiler

 

Police car customization, NOOSE outfits for us to wear, a leftover comment referencing "Cops n Crooks" pack, new variants of police cars, changes to sirens , new grenades (Stun grenade & Flash grenade).

In contrast to the claim, Rockstar was known to prevent us from wearing police-themed clothing, yet for some reason, they were planning to do just that.

 

Anyway, such topic should be left to bit the dust, cause there's no benefit to discussing it.

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26 minutes ago, Zak Ras said:

I mean, there's always the idea of the APB replacing the Global Signal, that way it can act like a VS version of Casino Work.

 

Player does Crook related activity in freeroam, APB goes out just like Global Signal, but ONLY to Players who are registered as Cops at that moment, doing their own stuff around the map.

Naah I don't think so. Its a clever idea, I never heard it before. But wouldn't that mean they would have to rework every single business update they had before? 

Also it would strongly reduce the number of griefers in the game (since only registered cops could see the cargo). And we all know R* loves griefers... So I can't see that happening. Also every "cop"/"crook" would just fly on a broomstick instead of using cars. Naaah... no thanks. That sounds like a terrible update lol.

I always seen it as a series of different adversary modes. Kinda like Arena War mixed with the CnC content from FiveM.
-You buy a property
- you customize your police/crooks car with expensive upgrades
- you play 4-8 different CnC adversary modes in separate lobbies
- you unlock outfits / weapons / upgrades by playing those modes

But if anyone has some other ideas how the whole CnC thing could work I would gladly hear it.

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I guess both of those ideas could also work on that new location we getting. It would make sense for a small island to hire some private security as cops to fight off a wave of robbers

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1 minute ago, Piro said:

Naah I don't think so. Its a clever idea, I never heard it before. But wouldn't that mean they would have to rework every single business update they had before? 

Also it would strongly reduce the number of griefers in the game (since only registered cops could see the cargo). And we all know R* loves griefers... So I can't see that happening. Also every "cop"/"crook" would just fly on a broomstick instead of using cars. Naaah... no thanks. That sounds like a terrible update lol.

Well, by Crook Activity, I mean any of the newer criminal activities (whatever they would've been) the update would've brought in with it, not so much the older SecuroServ/MC stuff from 2016-18

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8 minutes ago, Piro said:

Also every "cop"/"crook" would just fly on a broomstick instead of using cars. Naaah... no thanks.

I think he said the cops wouldn't be allowed to use non lspd vehicles.

 

i think it would be pretty cool. you'd be able to make more money as a cop than just blowing stuff up with an mk2. it might incentivise some griefers to play as cops and use lower quality hardware. I'm sure all those griefers dream of being cops anyway :)

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18 minutes ago, Piro said:

Naah I don't think so. Its a clever idea, I never heard it before. But wouldn't that mean they would have to rework every single business update they had before? 

Also it would strongly reduce the number of griefers in the game (since only registered cops could see the cargo). And we all know R* loves griefers... So I can't see that happening. Also every "cop"/"crook" would just fly on a broomstick instead of using cars. Naaah... no thanks. That sounds like a terrible update lol.

I always seen it as a series of different adversary modes. Kinda like Arena War mixed with the CnC content from FiveM.
-You buy a property
- you customize your police/crooks car with expensive upgrades
- you play 4-8 different CnC adversary modes in separate lobbies
- you unlock outfits / weapons / upgrades by playing those modes

But if anyone has some other ideas how the whole CnC thing could work I would gladly hear it.

edit: 
I guess both of those ideas could also work on that new location we getting. It would make sense for a small island to hire some private security as cops to fight off a wave of robbers

I think it will be a workaround update. It could possibly be a import/export part 2 update where we use police vehicles to go undercover and steal rival vehicles and drugs/cargo to bring back to your business. It could be GTA version's of NFS Hot Pursuit. Regardless of what R* does we will probably get one more update after the heists update before they move over to next gen.

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I just wanna say that, back in 2014/2015, Rockstar was working on a single-player expansion that would have introduced three episodes, on top of the rumored Liberty City map expansion, each episode would have featured drastic changes to the environment or the scenery, one would alter the map to make it look a zombie apocalypse is happening, the other is the same ordinary set but with new buildings like the Casino opening, another was said to feature an Alien invasion. In addition to all that, you had PS4/X1/PC versions of the game in development.

I don't know about limitations, but Rockstar was going nuts.

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15 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

I just wanna say that, back in 2014/2015, Rockstar was working on a single-player expansion that would have introduced three episodes, on top of the rumored Liberty City map expansion, each episode would have featured drastic changes to the environment or the scenery, one would alter the map to make it look a zombie apocalypse is happening, the other is the same ordinary set but with new buildings like the Casino opening, another was said to feature an Alien invasion. In addition to all that, you had PS4/X1/PC versions of the game in development.

I don't know about limitations, but Rockstar was going nuts.

Do you get off on reminding us of that with a little extra detail everytime?

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15 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

I don't know about limitations, but Rockstar was going nuts.

Of course, those are all single player updates... but R* chose Online, a variation of this probably gets said at the studios in the run-up to every update being released;

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I'm in no way versed on game developing, but I naively would ask:

Can the loading time changing lobbies between cities from Los Santos to Liberty City and viceversa be 'masked' with some kind of activity or interactive interior? i.e.:

 

You can take a 'civilian' plane between those cities, with interactive things like onboard consoles, tv, a basic BAWSAQ money laundering app on our phone to transfer our cash between cities, and interaction with other players on the same plane like MarioKart-like videogames on our seats.

 

Or even better, a new version of the Avenger or Luxor for us and our crew: 

Avenger MKII - upgraded with a master computer to update our bussines on both cities (resupplies/upgrades), a cargo bay to transport an exclusive LS vehicle to LC and viceversa, space to crate delivery to make $ between cities, a small snack/booze furniture and a couple arcade games.

Luxor MKII - BAWSAQ advanced app, onboard bar and croupier, tv and game consoles, small space for special items (diamond, fabergé egg, rare fur), VIP party cabin with nightclub-like decoration, NPC escorts. 

 

All this activities on a relatively small interior to keep us distracted while the game changes lobbies on the background,

 

Is that feasible, my tech-savy friends?

 

 

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2 hours ago, FortifiedGooner86 said:

If R* was adding LC back then I'm sure there would be more than just a Heist there. They would add the basic stuff like Stores, Races, Contact Missions and Free Mode Events. They wouldn't just leave it with a heist...

I say it again:

We were talking about the claim that people would still visit a LC expansion even if the only things you could do there would be doing the new heist and drive around the map.

 

40 minutes ago, Piro said:

That would depend solely on the amount of content they would add at day one. But even if (at first) they added a completely empty LC, even without npcs or traffic, I'm still sure that 90% of players would keep visiting it simply because its a new map. It would be like the early days of gtao/rdro where people just screw around without a purpose until they add something to it. Not to mention the ability to use creator so the community could make their own stuff. That would keep them entertained for a veeeery long time.

And I simply disagree with that.

It would not be like the early days of gta online and rdr online for the simple reason that there would be a lobby, with all the content that would be missing from LC, right around the corner. Short term, yeah people would go there to have a look. But long term? Nah.

I mean just look at the current map. 9/10 times I'm the only one driving around blaine county. When the new aircraft carrier bussiness battle happens I'm 99% of the time the only person going there. Sometimes 1 other player comes to have a look and take a crate after I have shut off the anti air.

Paleto Bay has mostly only 2 poor souls who got the awfull starter pack collecting scrap for their bunker or the arcade.

All these places are either new or have content, yet 99% of the players stick around the city.

 

54 minutes ago, Piro said:

Waait... so you keep arguing that LC would have to be in the same lobby as LS cause people hate loading screens, right? (unless LC has exactly the same amount of content as LC) But you also think NY would be a good location even tho it would have to be in a different lobby?

No.

I'm saying that NY would have the potential to become a good mapexpansion if they added content to it, contrary to some peoples believe.

I also think that it WONT happen because it would require a new lobby and to much work to be profitable just like LC.

 

56 minutes ago, Piro said:

You would get a message "you trying to join a friend in a different city. Are you sure you want to reload the game? Y/N". I see no problems with that. Its the same kind of message you get when you trying to join a crew lobby or a different aim type lobby. Its just the loading would last a little bit longer.

I was more talking about the problems that could happen when you back out of that message. Like getting stuck loading, the game getting confused and loading you into the wrong city etc.

 

You also have to remember that the way online currently operates when you join a lobby, it first loads the lobby you want into, then kicks you out when the session is full and loads another one.

When that happens when you want to load into a session with a diffent city it would load the entire map (with a substancial loading time) give you the error, then kick you back loading another lobby. The last thing opens another can of worms. What city would it load you into. The city you were in previously in or the one you tryed to join through your friend?

 

I also love how you say "loading a bit longer" when we have people complaining over long load times between regular sessions (making fun of them on youtube and reddit for example) and a game running with 20 FPS on console.

 

 

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