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Black-Dragon96
14 minutes ago, Piro said:

So your argument is that if LC dosn't have literally all the connect and all the businesses from LS at day one people wouldn't want to visit it? Cmon... you know that ain't true. Even if they added only couple missions and races at first people would still spend most of the time in LC cause its a new place.

 

14 minutes ago, Piro said:

Cause it would be a new place after 7 years of sitting in the same city that everyone knows like the back of their hand. Simple as that. And nah, the argument about North Yankton was that it would be the most boring solution out of all the other possibilities. It had nothing to do with the content they could add there.

A huge majority would still go to LC no matter what, and thats all that matters. R* wouldn't care that 0.1% of players wouldn't want to visit LC until it has the same amount of content as LS. Obviously they would keep adding more and more with every single dlc.

Imagine if to every new dlc they would port 2 old businesses to LC. That would surly be enough to keep people interested for years.

My argument is that people would visit it maybe once or twice and then abandon it (appart from maybe the new heist).

Maybe I'm underestimating the casual sharkcard buying playerbase but I dont think that a majority would stick around.

If both citys were in the same lobby things would be diffrent.

 

Oh and the North Yankton discussion was partially about that "there would be nothing to do". Go back a couple of pages.

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3 hours ago, Gridl0k said:

People put their belief in what they want

Seeing the stuff being posted about LC it's even more true.

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13 minutes ago, The Jungz said:

The simple fact that my game would finally play at 20+ fps would be enough reason for me to just stay the f*ck in LC. 

GTA V's map is hanging on by a thread on consoles.

Who says that it wont run with 20 FPS in LC?

It could be equaly bad as LS is.

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I'm writing this to clear some misconceptions and throw my few cents into the hat about the upcoming update and the map expansion that everyone is talking about. I've talked about this topic with few of the people that really know their stuff from technical perspective and some people that know other people that know cousin of the Rockstars Janitor's brother-in-law. Still this is really just a speculation, a speculation dripped slightly with leaks and based on the evidence and the rumors I've heard, but still a speculation so take it with a butt load of salt. 
I'll be talking about three possibilities regarding the map expansion. I do believe that I won't be just a new interior or building on the current map and it will be, in fact a map expansion. There are few prominent theories about it, but I want to start with the least possible of them - VC, LV and SF. There's NO way they'd create those maps and just casually use them in the GTAO for free. I'll however go back to those however slightly later and I'll take a look at another location that was suggested - San Diego and Tijuana. I'd say that it would be a really cool and unique idea but I doubt something like this would happen, see the above. San Diego and Tijuana, although smaller than LA are still pretty big and I don't think that the team that creates the DLCs have the manpower to create so complex stuff. This is why I'm not going to really going to go into more details about it neither.


Let's begin looking at our first possibility: North Yankton. (Side note, I'll be referring to North Yankton as NY, don't get confused with New York lmao)
North Yankton would be that classic Rockstar laziness that they are known for. They basically have all the assets ready. The basic map, the pedestrians and the vehicles, all as of yet unused in GTAO. For years they've been constantly reusing parts of the SP, whether it's an interior or majority of content from scrapped DLC *cough* Doomsday Heists *cough*. It could also create a really unique terrain that we only have access to one or twice a year - snow. Snowmobiles would be a really interesting concept. As much of the NY  they already have they would need to add about the same amount of stuff to it. Let's be honest, there isn't really much going on in NY. There was the depo that was used in prologue and the church and graveyard. Rest are just non-solid buildings and empty fields. The NY is also suspended in midair slightly above the LS Docks which results in basically it being a mission only place and I think that Rockstar wants to give us more places to go to in Freeroam, more about that later.  I'd also say that robbing the same place as in SP as Heists finale would suck ass. Unless they do Doomsday Pt2 and underground facility where there is hidden alien spacecraft or FIB base or some sh*t like that. That was my personal problem with Doomsday, sh*t just magically appeared around the map and I'd rather not go this route again. The fact that it is actually set in different state, far away from LS is also another minus. It would result in the additional lobbies for it, if it was available in Freeroam ofc. All that being said, I feel like a Setup mission where you'd go steal some important MacGuffin from that bank and escape using the Snowmobiles or something like that. It would be kick ass and allow them to use this pretty big although empty map imho.

 

Another highly discussed possibility is the Liberty City.
A lot of people point out to a lot of references to GTA IV in recent update. My response to it, Rockstar been doing such things for years. The references to GTA III, GTA VC, GTA SA, Manhunt, GTA IV&EFLC, it really means nothing. Just because they've put QUB3D (best addition to the game from this update btw) and some t-shirts doesn't mean jack really. Maybe there was some reference to GTA IV with CnC, maybe we meet some character from IV and they've decided to add it in for nostalgia sake, we don't know. Also for love of God stop mentioning the Solomon picture with Niko, it's been there since 2013, just a simple Easter Egg nothing more! Really the same problems with North Yankton can be applied here and I'd say that LC has even more problems. Outside if the fact they would have to create separate lobbies for Freeroam (if it had one), they would have to create so much more than compared to Yankton. With Yankton they at least had Peds ready, here they would have to create so much more than  just few more, due to fact how different the LS and LC (and LA and New York) the communities are. Jews, Russians, Italians, Jamaicans and so much more are non-existent in LS as pedestrians, they would just have to add em and they would result spending a big money on the voicework alone especially during the quarantine. They could reuse a lot of voiceovers and models from GTA IV, but would you really like to get the same content that's 13 years old at this point? It would feel like they'd put GTA SA models back to V, bad and outta place. And no you can't just plop the There is also a problem with radio (which is really expensive), pathfinding for NPCs, different weather and endless things of other stuff that you don't really think about such as underwater tunnels (that aren't possible with the GTA Vs water engine) and seabed that would have to be made from 0 to small things such as police radio chatter that would  need to be redone completely. There is also a possibility of them using a part of the LC similarly to the North Yankton, but really where would be fun in that. I'd say it would really suck if we had like 3 streets and 2 interiors for us to actually explore. I think it would defeat the purpose of setting the Heist there at all. Also there is also the fact that what is there to rob in the LC? There is Liberty Bank, but we already robbed it, there is BAWSAQ and LCN, but I don't think robbing it would be kinda pointless, there are no real assets there and robbing stocks is useless. There's also a prison but we already have Prison Break heist. There is also a museum, but I'd say robbing the Kortz Center or Galileo Observatory would be more interesting than LC Museum. Maybe you could come up with something, I personally can't really. All that being said I do believe that they'll add LC to GTAO at some point in time, just not now. It's quite obvious that they want it to go as long as possible and I feel like after they update the engine to actually support the map expansions (cuz currently it's near impossible, they increased TXD limits and game can casually sh*t itself from time to time) the gates for LC might be open. In fact I feel like we will get VC *cough*and other map(s) that will be coming with it*cough* to GTAO if you own GTA VI and vice versa. They wouldn't really sperate it from GTA V for no reason after 8 years of support. It's quite obvious what their plans are. But that's kinda off topic right now 😉

 

And finally we left the most possible for last; Santa Catalina Island

In my opinion this is what we will get in December. It has pretty much everything you'd want from such a place. It's big but not too big, it only has two cities (well one small city and village), places to rob, it is close to LA and it wouldn't have and so much more. 
First of all - radios. Guess what: Santa Catalina receives radio from LA. They also have two (from the research I've conducted) stations of their own. I'd say Rockstars would definitely go with an option to add only one or two new stations over adding 5-10 for new region, whether it would be LC or something else. Pedestrians? Reuse 'em from LS, the climate is exactly the same so they won't look outta place. It would be perfect addition for the Freeroam, it would give boats and aircrafts (because there's an actual airport in there) a new life. If we'd get a new homes there, whether villas or just regular houses, we could easily transport our cars from LS to SC, because irl the ferries go from LA to SC. They could easily remodel one of the pretty much unused warehouses that crowd the LS Docks into the Ferry terminal. Going back to the "places to rob", Santa Catalina has a sh*t ton of luxury houses (which I believe will be the main part of the Heists), it has small but pretty casino that also hosts art gallery, museum and they might add some other made-up place because unlike two candidates before it this is pretty much empty canvas. There's also something you can't steal - beautiful views. As much as I love LC I don't think it has views like these:

 

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I feel like there is literally no better candidate for map expansion than it. I'd take it over a small part of LC or forever frozen Yankton any day. 

 

TLDR: This will be map expansion, no VC, LV or SF, Yankton is too boring of a place imo, LC would need too much attention, overall Santa Catalina knockoff is most likely. 

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nice post. well thought out

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8 minutes ago, MGgames100 said:

TLDR: This will be map expansion, no VC, LV or SF, Yankton is too boring of a place imo, LC would need too much attention, overall Santa Catalina knockoff is most likely. 

This is the most sober, mature response so far to all the map expansion speculation. Thanks. 

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The Jungz

I don't know about that, I don't see Rockstar building a new map from the ground up, no matter how small it is. 

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11 minutes ago, MGgames100 said:

This will be map expansion, no VC, LV or SF, Yankton is too boring of a place imo, LC would need too much attention, overall Santa Catalina knockoff is most likely. 

 

the only problem I see with speculating it'll be Santa Catalina is that we have no evidence or possible evidence that rockstar has ever considered this for a map expansion.

 

with lc we do have that middle park screenshot, which could have something to do with an lc expansion, and also some guy that might be kind of credible saying they were working on lc for gta online back in 2014.

 

I guess you could argue that adding in the carrier for a business battle could have been a way of testing how well stuff works offshore ls. maybe that's evidence for a sc expansion.

 

either way Im just hoping it's not a sh*tty interior. lc and santa catalina seem equally likely to me, and i would be fine with either.

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SummerFreeze
1 hour ago, Piro said:

Yeah, I won't waste my special crew color + all the other upgrades just for a trick I would barely even use (since I haven't done a biker sell in years). But thanks for the tip!

You could still keep the crew color because it falls under Respray.

 

I've used my Bombushka fairly regularly doing Casino Heist prep, e.g. getaway vehicles, Gruppe 6 Stockade, NOOSE van, Yung's rental Fugitive.

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20 minutes ago, MGgames100 said:

 

 

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TLDR: This will be map expansion, no VC, LV or SF, Yankton is too boring of a place imo, LC would need too much attention, overall Santa Catalina knockoff is most likely. 

Yea, most realistic expectation about map expansion. Enough diversity with urban and rural areas, but yet not that huge. Some Guarma vibes with rural and VC vibes with urban. I think this would satisfy most Gta Online playerbase, myself included.

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41 minutes ago, keggre said:

is there a limit on how big updates on consoles can be? there was someone on here who kept saying they can't do an update over 10gb but they never said why.

Pretty sure Heists was larger than 10 on console, iirc.

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Devdevi45

Can someone explain to me where did this Catalina island conversation come from? 

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I really want Palomino Highlands to be remade into something like this.

 

Significant construction progress at upcoming Ayia Napa Marina

 

Or

 

NEO Limassol | Woods Bagot

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Black-Dragon96
29 minutes ago, MGgames100 said:

I'm writing this to clear some misconceptions and throw my few cents into the hat about the upcoming update and the map expansion that everyone is talking about. I've talked about this topic with few of the people that really know their stuff from technical perspective and some people that know other people that know cousin of the Rockstars Janitor's brother-in-law.

Still this is really just a speculation, a speculation dripped slightly with leaks and based on the evidence and the rumors I've heard, but still a speculation so take it with a butt load of salt. 
I'll be talking about three possibilities regarding the map expansion. I do believe that I won't be just a new interior or building on the current map and it will be, in fact a map expansion. There are few prominent theories about it, but I want to start with the least possible of them - VC, LV and SF. There's NO way they'd create those maps and just casually use them in the GTAO for free. I'll however go back to those however slightly later and I'll take a look at another location that was suggested - San Diego and Tijuana. I'd say that it would be a really cool and unique idea but I doubt something like this would happen, see the above. San Diego and Tijuana, although smaller than LA are still pretty big and I don't think that the team that creates the DLCs have the manpower to create so complex stuff. This is why I'm not going to really going to go into more details about it neither.


Let's begin looking at our first possibility: North Yankton. (Side note, I'll be referring to North Yankton as NY, don't get confused with New York lmao)
North Yankton would be that classic Rockstar laziness that they are known for. They basically have all the assets ready. The basic map, the pedestrians and the vehicles, all as of yet unused in GTAO. For years they've been constantly reusing parts of the SP, whether it's an interior or majority of content from scrapped DLC *cough* Doomsday Heists *cough*. It could also create a really unique terrain that we only have access to one or twice a year - snow. Snowmobiles would be a really interesting concept. As much of the NY  they already have they would need to add about the same amount of stuff to it. Let's be honest, there isn't really much going on in NY. There was the depo that was used in prologue and the church and graveyard. Rest are just non-solid buildings and empty fields. The NY is also suspended in midair slightly above the LS Docks which results in basically it being a mission only place and I think that Rockstar wants to give us more places to go to in Freeroam, more about that later.  I'd also say that robbing the same place as in SP as Heists finale would suck ass. Unless they do Doomsday Pt2 and underground facility where there is hidden alien spacecraft or FIB base or some sh*t like that. That was my personal problem with Doomsday, sh*t just magically appeared around the map and I'd rather not go this route again. The fact that it is actually set in different state, far away from LS is also another minus. It would result in the additional lobbies for it, if it was available in Freeroam ofc. All that being said, I feel like a Setup mission where you'd go steal some important MacGuffin from that bank and escape using the Snowmobiles or something like that. It would be kick ass and allow them to use this pretty big although empty map imho.

 

Another highly discussed possibility is the Liberty City.
A lot of people point out to a lot of references to GTA IV in recent update. My response to it, Rockstar been doing such things for years. The references to GTA III, GTA VC, GTA SA, Manhunt, GTA IV&EFLC, it really means nothing. Just because they've put QUB3D (best addition to the game from this update btw) and some t-shirts doesn't mean jack really. Maybe there was some reference to GTA IV with CnC, maybe we meet some character from IV and they've decided to add it in for nostalgia sake, we don't know. Also for love of God stop mentioning the Solomon picture with Niko, it's been there since 2013, just a simple Easter Egg nothing more! Really the same problems with North Yankton can be applied here and I'd say that LC has even more problems. Outside if the fact they would have to create separate lobbies for Freeroam (if it had one), they would have to create so much more than compared to Yankton. With Yankton they at least had Peds ready, here they would have to create so much more than  just few more, due to fact how different the LS and LC (and LA and New York) the communities are. Jews, Russians, Italians, Jamaicans and so much more are non-existent in LS as pedestrians, they would just have to add em and they would result spending a big money on the voicework alone especially during the quarantine. They could reuse a lot of voiceovers and models from GTA IV, but would you really like to get the same content that's 13 years old at this point? It would feel like they'd put GTA SA models back to V, bad and outta place. And no you can't just plop the There is also a problem with radio (which is really expensive), pathfinding for NPCs, different weather and endless things of other stuff that you don't really think about such as underwater tunnels (that aren't possible with the GTA Vs water engine) and seabed that would have to be made from 0 to small things such as police radio chatter that would  need to be redone completely. There is also a possibility of them using a part of the LC similarly to the North Yankton, but really where would be fun in that. I'd say it would really suck if we had like 3 streets and 2 interiors for us to actually explore. I think it would defeat the purpose of setting the Heist there at all. Also there is also the fact that what is there to rob in the LC? There is Liberty Bank, but we already robbed it, there is BAWSAQ and LCN, but I don't think robbing it would be kinda pointless, there are no real assets there and robbing stocks is useless. There's also a prison but we already have Prison Break heist. There is also a museum, but I'd say robbing the Kortz Center or Galileo Observatory would be more interesting than LC Museum. Maybe you could come up with something, I personally can't really. All that being said I do believe that they'll add LC to GTAO at some point in time, just not now. It's quite obvious that they want it to go as long as possible and I feel like after they update the engine to actually support the map expansions (cuz currently it's near impossible, they increased TXD limits and game can casually sh*t itself from time to time) the gates for LC might be open. In fact I feel like we will get VC *cough*and other map(s) that will be coming with it*cough* to GTAO if you own GTA VI and vice versa. They wouldn't really sperate it from GTA V for no reason after 8 years of support. It's quite obvious what their plans are. But that's kinda off topic right now 😉

 

And finally we left the most possible for last; Santa Catalina Island

In my opinion this is what we will get in December. It has pretty much everything you'd want from such a place. It's big but not too big, it only has two cities (well one small city and village), places to rob, it is close to LA and it wouldn't have and so much more. 
First of all - radios. Guess what: Santa Catalina receives radio from LA. They also have two (from the research I've conducted) stations of their own. I'd say Rockstars would definitely go with an option to add only one or two new stations over adding 5-10 for new region, whether it would be LC or something else. Pedestrians? Reuse 'em from LS, the climate is exactly the same so they won't look outta place. It would be perfect addition for the Freeroam, it would give boats and aircrafts (because there's an actual airport in there) a new life. If we'd get a new homes there, whether villas or just regular houses, we could easily transport our cars from LS to SC, because irl the ferries go from LA to SC. They could easily remodel one of the pretty much unused warehouses that crowd the LS Docks into the Ferry terminal. Going back to the "places to rob", Santa Catalina has a sh*t ton of luxury houses (which I believe will be the main part of the Heists), it has small but pretty casino that also hosts art gallery, museum and they might add some other made-up place because unlike two candidates before it this is pretty much empty canvas. There's also something you can't steal - beautiful views. As much as I love LC I don't think it has views like these:

 

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I feel like there is literally no better candidate for map expansion than it. I'd take it over a small part of LC or forever frozen Yankton any day. 

 

TLDR: This will be map expansion, no VC, LV or SF, Yankton is too boring of a place imo, LC would need too much attention, overall Santa Catalina knockoff is most likely.

Yeah thats pretty much what it boils down to.

Catalina is the most logical expansion. It requires the "least work", it can still be set in the same lobby (both from a logical and a technical standpoint), it works well with existing content and it opens up many possibilities for the future.

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6 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

Well where would they put it then?

A seperate lobby, splitting up the playerbase they so desperatly need to grief eachother over bussiness cargo?

 

No offense but a new lobby for a new city is 100% not happening. They would have to recreate everything they made over the past years for LS to be in LC too. Diffrent Bussinesses, Freemode events, jobs etc.

Without that people would stick to the LS lobby making the investment not worth it.

 

 

Something thats on the same Map however could still benefit from the old content.

I can do a freemode low flying challenge over a diffrent island no problem.

A hunt the beast could still run on the main land and everyone on the island could just pile into a plane, fly over there and do the event.

You could still run your bussiness in LS and do other things on the island.

For GTA 5 Online, I agree with you, but once GTA 6 releases, it would have a very barebone Online mode in the beginning, so it would make a lot of sense to allow players to quickly switch between GTA 5 Online and GTA 6 Online -- and their respective maps.

 

I believe that's the whole reason why Rockstar is working on a GTA 5 Online-only game (i.e. without 5 Single Player), because it would prevent players getting bored too quickly like it seems to have happened with Red Dead Online. Whether Rockstar would actually allow players to transfer their virtual assets is a different question. We will probably have to leave most of our stuff in Los Santos.

 

As for a map extension for current gen GTA 5 Online, I'm very skeptical of it. If Yan hadn't tweeted about it, I wouldn't believe it at all.

 

The only way a complete new map would make sense for current gen GTA 5 Online is as an incentive for players to switch over to next gen Online where the map would be filled with events, businesses, and other activities.

 

10 minutes ago, Devdevi45 said:

Can someone explain to me where did this Catalina island conversation come from? 

This line: "biggest ever update for GTA Online, featuring our latest take on Heists in an entirely new location"

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1 hour ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

My argument is that people would visit it maybe once or twice and then abandon it (appart from maybe the new heist). Maybe I'm underestimating the casual sharkcard buying playerbase but I dont think that a majority would stick around. If both citys were in the same lobby things would be diffrent.

 

Oh and the North Yankton discussion was partially about that "there would be nothing to do". Go back a couple of pages.

So a small minority would visit it couple times until they add more content to it. So what? R* still wins cause everyone would have to buy everything for the second time when they eventually add it. It would be the same story with a small island, NY, LC and any other location we can think of.

Also having both cities in the same lobby wouldn't change much imo. GTA is full of loading screens. An extra one when you want to switch the map isn't a big deal.

And If LS and LC were in the same lobby (very unlikely) they would have be soooooo far away from each other that having 1 extra loading screen would still be faster then flying there on your own. For it to have 2 maps in the same lobby they would have to be like... 2-3x the length of the current map apart. If not more. You would have to go so far away that you can't even see the current map. Otherwise the game would have to load both of them and that would surly lag the game.

And going back to NY - "nothing to do" as in its a tiny town with small buildings. It would be like having a second paleto bay. But no matter if they made NY small or waaay bigger then we expect, it still would be in a separate lobby. You do realize that, right? You expect to take a couple minute flight to North Yankton and see snow there? Also NY isn't an island from what I remember. So they can't just add it in the same lobby. That would feel weird if you ask me.
 

56 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

Who says that it wont run with 20 FPS in LC?

It could be equaly bad as LS is.

- LC is way smaller then the current map
- Its an older map so even if they upgrade the visuals it still would probably run a little bit smoother
- The main reason why gtao is so laggy after all those years is that they keep stacking updates on top of each other and they never touch the old code. And because of that its full of badly optimized scripts. If they started from scratch on a new map its possible that the added content would be more optimized since they would know what they would be working with from the very start. So lets say while LS runs 200 scripts LC could run on 20 scripts (obviously I'm using random numbers as an example here)
 

40 minutes ago, The Jungz said:

I don't know about that, I don't see Rockstar building a new map from the ground up, no matter how small it is. 

 Making a small island would require less work then they put into Arena War and the Casino dlcs. 

And they don't have to make it from nothing. They can make the whole landmass by stitching together existing hills and mountains (from gtav or rdr2). Add 20 buildings from Vinewood hills, 10 buildings from Vespucci Canals, 10 from Paleto Bay, 5 from Mirror Park, 10 new ones and no one would notice.

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54 minutes ago, MGgames100 said:

Let's be honest, there isn't really much going on in NY. There was the depo that was used in prologue and the church and graveyard. Rest are just non-solid buildings and empty fields.

On top of that - all of those buildings are copied from LS and/or don't even have textures from the angle you warn't suppose to look at. So yeah, they would have to put so much work into NY that they might as well make a new place instead. 

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36 minutes ago, The Jungz said:

I don't know about that, I don't see Rockstar building a new map from the ground up, no matter how small it is. 

Really, I know this might not be enough for you but

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33 minutes ago, keggre said:

the only problem I see with speculating it'll be Santa Catalina is that we have no evidence or possible evidence that rockstar has ever considered this for a map expansion.

 

with lc we do have that middle park screenshot, which could have something to do with an lc expansion, and also some guy that might be kind of credible saying they were working on lc for gta online back in 2014.

 

I guess you could argue that adding in the carrier for a business battle could have been a way of testing how well stuff works offshore ls. maybe that's evidence for a sc expansion.

Did they ever provided evidence for a bunch of game modes with mad max cars set inside of arena? Did they ever provided evidence that we will be fighting against clone army powered by out of control AI created by parody of Elon Musk? Did they even gave a slight clue about CnC? Rockstar likes to keep their mouths shut till the end, so stuff like CnC can be quietly cancelled or can avoid stuff like SP DLCs.

 

14 minutes ago, Devdevi45 said:

Can someone explain to me where did this Catalina island conversation come from? 

Ever since the newswire post that was talking about new localization.

 

 

One thing I forgot to mention in my post:
I strongly belive that this will be a "goodbye" DLC for this generation of consoles. It might not be a final DLC for PS4/XBONE I actually think it might be CnC, which might be released on all the supported platforms, akin to Ill Gotten Gains, but it will be the last one of this scope and from what I've heard this one will be one big boy. Just like original Heists were the last (and first really) DLC of this scope for PS3 and X360.

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2 minutes ago, MGgames100 said:

Did they ever provided evidence for a bunch of game modes with mad max cars set inside of arena? Did they ever provided evidence that we will be fighting against clone army powered by out of control AI created by parody of Elon Musk? Did they even gave a slight clue about CnC? Rockstar likes to keep their mouths shut till the end, so stuff like CnC can be quietly cancelled or can avoid stuff like SP DLCs.

no but leaks happen sometimes. and whatever that screenshot of middle park was for, it wasn't meant to be seen by the public.

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14 hours ago, keggre said:

I think they actually have around 3k employees now. they've been hiring a lot recently ig

you know, this is interesting and nobody really talks about it. Rockstar has gotten huge in the last 5 years in terms of staffing levels. A.) That's probably a result of all that sweet shark cash, and B.) I think there is a lot going on inside of Rockstar in terms of development. Obviously GTAO and RDO have their own teams. Also, GTA VI is in development. But the surge in staffing levels seem to suggest that maybe more than that is on development, and I'm really curious to as what it is. 

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16 hours ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

The awnswer is dedicated servers...and as far as i know (i don't play RDO) RDO dont have them. And at this point idk why...R* should've learn the lesson already from 5 years of GTAO experience. I think we will get that in GTA VI, GTA is always their best selling title and the one that get more love. I think, or rather, i hope, that they will not screw that.

They will not let you sell in private session bcz they want to to have the change to be blown away in order to lose the profit then you get mad and then you buy a shark card.

The problem with higher levels (legit ones) is that they probably are veterans and very good at pvp and when some players get owned, probably a lot will report you. But the highest lowest thing that some hacker can do to a player is blow up an entire lobby with the name of an innocent player, then everyone will report you, despite you being innocent. That happened to me, i received a message some days ago about: "we are investigating if your cheating....behave yourself..." something in those terms.

What is the point of a new map or Gta VI if we will have the same broken Multiplayer game

 

I wanted to get red dead, now no more and im afraid of how gta vi will turn out to be

 

i guess the only value is on singleplayer, but R* wont do sp dlcs no more for their titles

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16 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

I believe that's the whole reason why Rockstar is working on a GTA 5 Online-only game (i.e. without 5 Single Player), because it would prevent players getting bored too quickly like it seems to have happened with Red Dead Online. Whether Rockstar would actually allow players to transfer their virtual assets is a different question. We will probably have to leave most of our stuff in Los Santos.

its to make GTAO a hub that has everything in it.

adding the new islands as the new GTA's come out

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I fear with next gen they gonna patch solo public solution to griefer cancer and then sadly i'm gonna say goodbye to online. Talking about dedicated servers as possibility, i highly doubt R* would allow servers without pvp, even if they do allow them, it would be like invite only, you can't sell supplies, because no one can destroy it therefore no frustration to lead you to buy sharkards.

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11 minutes ago, TheFranchise said:

you know, this is interesting and nobody really talks about it. Rockstar has gotten huge in the last 5 years in terms of staffing levels. A.) That's probably a result of all that sweet shark cash, and B.) I think there is a lot going on inside of Rockstar in terms of development. Obviously GTAO and RDO have their own teams. Also, GTA VI is in development. But the surge in staffing levels seem to suggest that maybe more than that is on development, and I'm really curious to as what it is. 

for sure. I think that figure came from LinkedIn. it was posted on reddit:

 

 

a lot of people seem to have lost faith in rockstar over the past few years. it would be super neat if they're actually using shark card revenue to branch out to different sequels besides gta (ie bully 2) or new ips all together. we just maybe might see a rockstar renaissance in the coming years.

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Yeah I definitely think its gonna be a new island built from the ground up. Same lobby but just way far away from Los Santos.

 

LC just seems way too huge to add in. 

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15 hours ago, Mach1bud said:

I agree with this.

 

They did learn. They learned that they can make the most profitable game in history without dedicated servers. Lol.

Lmao, yes and althought i think that they know they mess things up by not want to spend the money on that but either way i think they will do just fine in GTA VI if they don't want make dedicated servers and people will buy their sh*t the same way. 😂 The thing with gta online becoming standalone definitely smells like "there will not be GTAO 2.0 the one we have will follow it's own route separately from V's and it's old code embeded, in order to be able to keep up with new gen(s) and new GTA VI".

16 hours ago, henriquedematos said:

Just a tidbit of speculation, but since we're mentioning cut aircraft, does anyone else remember when the Hydra was meant to be added in the Flight School Update but instead ended up being pushed all the way to the Heists? I can't help but wonder if there *might* be a similar situation here with the Sea Sparrow and Cargobob, e.g., maybe Rockstar felt like they're a better fit for whatever the upcoming large DLC is?

At this point, i think there's no pattern for vehicle type releases correlated with the dlc theme. You now see that each dlc can just bring 1 super car and 4 compacts and in the next 5 super cars, 1 sport car and a tank...idk...just giving an example.

24 minutes ago, skc_2srk said:

What is the point of a new map or Gta VI if we will have the same broken Multiplayer game

 

I wanted to get red dead, now no more and im afraid of how gta vi will turn out to be

 

i guess the only value is on singleplayer, but R* wont do sp dlcs no more for their titles

They will, but single playher dlc's, i don't think there's need for that since they can profit even more by doing online dlc's and get more money than doing it for SP.

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You know what they also have on Catalina Island? Bisons! But I doubt they would port those from RDR2 lol. Would be fun tho.
Imagine a bison hitting your car and flipping it over like you just got hit with up-n-atomizer. 

Also another fun fact - Catalina Island also appeared at the ending of TLoU2 (yeah I know, the game sucks. We don't need to talk about it)
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34 minutes ago, Devdevi45 said:

Can someone explain to me where did this Catalina island conversation come from? 

- First a speculation after the newswire post cause it makes sense
- Some hints from mods and admins of this forum about Catalina Island
- Me and a lot of people been pitching tiny islands for years now. From small private islands that would work the same way as yachts to a new location the size of paleto bay. Something like this:

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18 minutes ago, keggre said:

no but leaks happen sometimes. and whatever that screenshot of middle park was for, it wasn't meant to be seen by the public.

Well if you think this looks like Catalina island in the background you might consider this a leak I guess

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Someone said that GTA V was made to support potential map expansions and that GTA VI was "rebooted" 

 

Is there any links to where I could read more about this.

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19 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

Yeah I definitely think its gonna be a new island built from the ground up. Same lobby but just way far away from Los Santos.

 

LC just seems way too huge to add in. 

You know what would be the most f*cked up thing ever? R* be like: "hummmm...ok, we know that people (most of them) want a remastered Vice City, they are exdpecting that to be the GTA VI's map. But...we have other ideas for that...but, they will eat your asses if we don't do that...so...whaaaaat ifff...we add vice city as a new map expansion for GTA V/Online?" 😛 Probably not happen bcz, that would take too much time and if there's a new island should be at the size of blaine county and paleto bay combined in order to not be such a hard task.

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8 minutes ago, Piro said:

Some hints from mods and admins of this forum about Catalina Island

what other hints were there besides that gtaforums icon? and where was that posted anyway?

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