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Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk IX

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Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk IX  

431 members have voted

  1. 1. When do you think the next update is going to be REVEALED?

    • October
      16
    • November
      201
    • December
      202
    • January
      12
  2. 2. When do you think the next update is going to be RELEASED?

    • Earlier than December
      20
    • December
      386
    • January
      12
    • Later
      13
  3. 3. Where do you think the new heist will take place?

    • A tropical casino island (e.g. inspired by Catalina Island)
      122
    • A new city or town, or a part of it (e.g. GTA SA's Liberty City bit)
      47
    • We goin' LC bois and gals, Three Leaf Clover style!
      51
    • "New location" is all lies, just a random place in the existing GTA V map!
      211
  4. 4. What do you think will be the highest possible payout for the new heist?

    • < GTA$2M
      89
    • GTA$2M - GTA$3M
      148
    • GTA$3M - GTA$4M
      109
    • GTA$4M - GTA$5M
      48
    • > GTA$5M
      37


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fryday
1 hour ago, EnforcerKiller said:

Yeah and guess what the title of the thread is?

oh man think about it.....you can speculate, because of facts/infos  and you can dream your wildest fantasies and mark them as facts....thats whats are many people are doing here. the create a fake reality in their heads, then when NO ma expansion will arrive, they will react, like rockstar lied to us....

 

 

 

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SummerFreeze
3 hours ago, Piro said:

 Bombushka had that ability. Until they "patched" it cause people were using it transport cargo delivery faster... At least we have Avenger I guess

That's still works; you just can't have any modification other than Armor, Engine, Handling, Respray on your Bombushka.

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Keep it True
5 hours ago, SpaceOdyssey69 said:

Has anyone yet encountered/experienced these new Madam Nazar related events?

What are these new events? Are they just new fortune readings from madam nazar?

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LeakyLine

People still think Catalina Island is real?

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3 minutes ago, LeakyLine said:

People still think Catalina Island is real?

People put their belief in what they want

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Black-Dragon96
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Piro said:

Oh no... all that existing content that they would dripfeed by slowly porting it to the next map for the next couple of years...  as I said, less then 10% of the original effort for more than 2x the original profits.

And just as you said, at first there wouldn't be enough of content there so people would still go back to LS to make money. So you still would have those griefers they need. Also they have more then enough players for two maps... now they have more players than ever before.

And when they start releasing businesses on the new map, the griefers would fallow. Not to mention they were already testing different lobby types in the past according to Fun.

If it would take then years to get it up to speed, players would not go there for years appart from the odd visit to see something else.

What reason would players have to go to LC when there is nothing there besides the city and another fully made city with more content is just one Lobby away?

Its what happened to RDR2. A contentless wastland vs a wasteland with lots of content.

 

56 minutes ago, fryday said:

oh man think about it.....you can speculate, because of facts/infos  and you can dream your wildest fantasies and mark them as facts....thats whats are many people are doing here. the create a fake reality in their heads, then when NO ma expansion will arrive, they will react, like rockstar lied to us....

 

 

 

We do have facts. The fact that it will take place in an entirely new location.

An entirely new location can be anything from a building to the surface of Pluto.

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keggre
1 minute ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

players would not go there for years appart from the odd visit to see something else.

no they would go there for heist missions

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Black-Dragon96
Just now, keggre said:

no they would go there for heist missions

And then right back to the LS lobby.

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keggre
5 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

And then right back to the LS lobby.

well I think the idea is that r* would update it on nextgen so that there's more to do there. right now there's hardly any incentive to buy the game on nextgen, so adding LC is at least something.

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kingkontinuum
6 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

And then right back to the LS lobby.

I wouldn’t go back to an LS lobby if an LC lobby was added. 

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fryday
10 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

If it would take then years to get it up to speed, players would not go there for years appart from the odd visit to see something else.

What reason would players have to go to LC when there is nothing there besides the city and another fully made city with more content is just one Lobby away?

Its what happened to RDR2. A contentless wastland vs a wasteland with lots of content.

 

We do have facts. The fact that it will take place in an entirely new location.

An entirely new location can be anything from a building to the surface of Pluto.

 

that is a fact, but its very loose.....as you can say, the next DLC will be downloadable....a fact, too.

its more a classical tease.  and you name it, the new location can be anything.... but people act, like they already have seen the liberty city trailer....

 

I will repeat myself:  do you really think rockstar would release the biggest communtity wish ever (map expansion) inside a small sentence, which didnt even say about a new city? no no, they would announce it like anything other before.....but they didnt...because its not a new city....

 

plus GTA5 still sells like hell, why should they waste developer time on a product, which sells even without a expansion? thats naive....

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keggre
5 minutes ago, kingkontinuum said:

I wouldn’t go back to an LS lobby if an LC lobby was added. 

ikr even if it was only freemode events there, people would f*ck around like it's gta iv multiplayer

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said:
5 hours ago, SpaceOdyssey69 said:
5 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said:
6 hours ago, SpaceOdyssey69 said:

Has anyone yet encountered/experienced these new Madam Nazar related events?

I did.

I got the "death from above" thingy and got airstriked by an NPC jet around 20-30 min later.

What location?

Eclips tower.

Jet suddenly appeared on the map and explosions rained down like in the airstrike from merryweather. Only reason I did not die was that I loaded into the clouds due to an on call heist.

I got one too, i thought she was talking about the orbital so didn't really pay attention to it or grab a screenie, but then later when i was drag-racing some random players on sandy shores airstrip a jet appeared and blew us all up with some carpet bombing, at first we thought it was a player but it was only a few players in the session and everybody who wasnt joining the dragrace was across the map & not in planes, so eventually we figured it was a npc from somebody's freemode work getting close to us, but now that i read your back & forth posts im like 99% sure thats what happened.

 

 

5 hours ago, Piro said:

Bombushka had that ability. Until they "patched" it cause people were using it transport cargo delivery faster...

Common misconception, you give R* too much credit, its actually a lot simpler, they just f-ed up the vehicle somehow the moment when they added it, if you dont buy armor then you can always get in the back. (also i remember something about not picking a livery, just look it up, 'how to use the cargo bay of bombushka' or something)

 

 

4 hours ago, Chrom said:

Is it possible they can switch to dedicated servers just with an Update? Or does it require a complete new game with an updated Rage engine?

Technically yes to the first and no to the second, but its complicated. They can make the game use dedicated servers without having to remake the thing completely, but it would be a 'scary' change for them, the likelihood of breaking stuff would be big enough that they wouldn't want to do this. If RDO isnt using them then even in the best case scenario (re-re-release uses latest Rage engine) we shouldnt count on this, the game will most likely remain P2P.

 

 

3 hours ago, Lazlow.Jones said:
10 hours ago, SonofLosSantos said:

Just a reference to the north Yankton map glitch

but there is no isle in North Yankton, it's def a Catalina Island hint

This, i feel like that pic i posted / the line "I see a secluded isle, and upon it I see, ah... it is gone." is most definitely a hint towards Catalina Island, while the North Yankton angle is certainly a good counter point im pretty sure that place aint no isle. Also its nice and crafty writing, as we can interpret that line in a few different ways:
- "Secluded isle", so it wont be reachable trough normal means of travel?
- "ah... it is gone" might relate to the above again (maybe you can only reach it during certain missions, which would suck)
- "ah... it is gone" might mean its release having been pushed back because of the corona stuffs.

- While im still not really buying the whole 'cancelled cops & crooks dlc' stuff*, just to humor those that do, another way to interpret "and upon it I see, ah... it is gone" is that she might be talking about some police station that was removed from the island.
* = While im happy to agree that yes we did find hints to 'cop stuff', i just dont think there was ever the full-on C&C DLC angle, i much more firmly believe the cops are just a part of the upcoming heist, like how firemen gruppe6 etc are part of casino heist

 

  

57 minutes ago, Keep it True said:

What are these new events? Are they just new fortune readings from madam nazar?

Yeah, some of them can cause stuff to happen to you in free-mode now

 

  

56 minutes ago, LeakyLine said:

People still think Catalina Island is real?

I dont know what i should think about it but i feel like some of the hints people have come up with are pretty good ones, at the very least if its going to be a 'a whole new location' like R* said then Catalina Island would be like 10x more plausible then the entirety of LC, imo anyway. Also its always interesting when moderators are hinting towards stuff that we are speculating about as well, that usually means that we're on the right track, despite what some people want to think some GTAF moderators do 'know people' and they dont just meme for clicktrough rates, that would do this community more harm then good in the long run.

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Black-Dragon96
22 minutes ago, keggre said:

well I think the idea is that r* would update it on nextgen so that there's more to do there. right now there's hardly any incentive to buy the game on nextgen, so adding LC is at least something.

Like I said why would people go to a rather empty map that will take years to get to Los Santos Level of content when there is a map with all these things already there?

Thats pretty much the argumentation that other folks used when they said why North Yankton would be boring.

 

22 minutes ago, kingkontinuum said:

I wouldn’t go back to an LS lobby if an LC lobby was added. 

Well some wouldnt, quite a few on this forum probably would not.

The question is if the sharkcard buying demographic would. I dont believe that this is a risk R* wants to take considering the substancial amount of work.

 

16 minutes ago, fryday said:

 

that is a fact, but its very loose.....as you can say, the next DLC will be downloadable....a fact, too.

its more a classical tease.  and you name it, the new location can be anything.... but people act, like they already have seen the liberty city trailer....

 

I will repeat myself:  do you really think rockstar would release the biggest communtity wish ever (map expansion) inside a small sentence, which didnt even say about a new city? no no, they would announce it like anything other before.....but they didnt...because its not a new city....

 

plus GTA5 still sells like hell, why should they waste developer time on a product, which sells even without a expansion? thats naive....

Yes I do believe that a mapexpansion with a new city is possible. Not on the scale of LC, but on a smaller scale.

 

As I said, this topic is called speculation thread for a reason. And "entirely new location" sounds quite a bit diffrent from what we are used to.

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58 minutes ago, LeakyLine said:

People still think Catalina Island is real?

 

54 minutes ago, Gridl0k said:

People put their belief in what they want

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kingkontinuum
18 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

Like I said why would people go to a rather empty map that will take years to get to Los Santos Level of content when there is a map with all these things already there?

Thats pretty much the argumentation that other folks used when they said why North Yankton would be boring.

 

Well some wouldnt, quite a few on this forum probably would not.

The question is if the sharkcard buying demographic would. I dont believe that this is a risk R* wants to take considering the substancial amount of work.

 

Yes I do believe that a mapexpansion with a new city is possible. Not on the scale of LC, but on a smaller scale.

 

As I said, this topic is called speculation thread for a reason. And "entirely new location" sounds quite a bit diffrent from what we are used to.

Why would they revamp a new map and then not add any content for the new map? Remember they’ve allegedly been working on this for years. It’s not out of the question that they’ve made interiors, apartments, and garages for use. 

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Black-Dragon96
7 minutes ago, kingkontinuum said:

Why would they revamp a new map and then not add any content for the new map? Remember they’ve allegedly been working on this for years. It’s not out of the question that they’ve made interiors, apartments, and garages for use. 

A) We were talking about them adding LC and then building it up like LS over the years.

B) I dont think that they have been working on it over the past few years.

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Posted (edited)

looks like people have opposite opinions:

- some, strongly belive on a map expansion.

- while others, dont belive that, at all.

 

I guess this discussion was what R* wanted when used that wording....

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AUScowboy

I think the alien stuff in this update is a tease for the December DLC which I think will be the remainder of the Alien War stuff from the cancelled SP DLC. The new location would be an Alien base below Zancudo maybe. That's more likely than getting LC or a new island IMO. Why do all that work when they still have cut content and a preexisting plan to work from?

 

Has anybody else noticed unusual NPC cars spawning in Blaine county? I've seen a limo there a few times recently in an invite only sesh and have never seen that before in the 6 years I've been playing. Probably just a bug or very rare occurrence, or maybe they messed with that stuff when updating Simeon's export list?

 

As for those special shirts added with this DLC, we'll be lucky to get 2 or 3 as login bonuses. Some will likely be event cargo grind bait and most, like always will go unreleased. Seems like the only time we get login shirts that aren't repeats is in the few weeks following a new DLC. Fingers crossed that the BC Radio shirt will be login and not grind bait, or worse, not released at all. I've always said they should do a new login shirt every week, that way they could work through some of the old unreleased stuff as well as getting collectors to login. Heck, they have enough unreleased shirts to do them daily for almost a year lol..

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suicidal_banana
4 minutes ago, AUScowboy said:

Has anybody else noticed unusual NPC cars spawning in Blaine county? I've seen a limo there a few times recently in an invite only sesh and have never seen that before in the 6 years I've been playing. Probably just a bug or very rare occurrence, or maybe they messed with that stuff when updating Simeon's export list?

Im actually noticing a lot of changes with traffic across the map, and other people are also posting the same in some threads here, also looks like some of the vehicles that they added to the list of 'you cant steal this' over the past few years have been removed again/can be stolen again. Was doing some off-roading with a random low level and we came across a heavily modified 'Sandking XL' and he could actually store it, and im like 90% sure even the basic version of that vehicle wasnt storable for a good few years, gonna look for a storable BF Bifta today, if i can find and store one then i'll be 100% sure they removed things from the 'non-storable' list.

 

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Niccky

There should be a bet thread with all this speculation lol

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2 minutes ago, suicidal_banana said:

Im actually noticing a lot of changes with traffic across the map, and other people are also posting the same in some threads here, also looks like some of the vehicles that they added to the list of 'you cant steal this' over the past few years have been removed again/can be stolen again. Was doing some off-roading with a random low level and we came across a heavily modified 'Sandking XL' and he could actually store it, and im like 90% sure even the basic version of that vehicle wasnt storable for a good few years, gonna look for a storable BF Bifta today, if i can find and store one then i'll be 100% sure they removed things from the 'non-storable' list.

 

Sandking XL farming has been a thing for a veeeeery long time...

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suicidal_banana
1 minute ago, Jack_Bauer said:

Sandking XL farming has been a thing for a veeeeery long time...

Hmm alright, i remember telling my friends to store these for ages and then suddenly nobody could anymore, guess they got removed from the list again longer ago then?

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, suicidal_banana said:

Hmm alright, i remember telling my friends to store these for ages and then suddenly nobody could anymore, guess they got removed from the list again longer ago then?

The Sandking SWB and Sandking XL was and never has been a part of the High End vehicles.

What you experienced was either a bug, or perhaps your friends trolled you. You have always been able to modify and store Sandkings.

 

Edit: NPC modified BF Biftas does not spawn in Online, by the way.

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, SummerFreeze said:

That's still works; you just can't have any modification other than Armor, Engine, Handling, Respray on your Bombushka.

Yeah, I won't waste my special crew color + all the other upgrades just for a trick I would barely even use (since I haven't done a biker sell in years). But thanks for the tip! 

1 hour ago, suicidal_banana said:

Common misconception, you give R* too much credit, its actually a lot simpler, they just f-ed up the vehicle somehow the moment when they added it

Naah, it worked normally for months if not years after release. Until people started posting pictures here and on reddit. Funny enough I was one of the first people who did it. I sill have the pic.

A week later they made a change where they blocked the entrance. But R* being R*, they probably forgot about the stock version of the plane. What other reason would they have to mess around with that vehicle? I'm almost sure it was an intentional "glitch" that they never fixed for a reason. Tho its possible its just a huuuge coincidence that worked in their favor. 
 

2 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

If it would take then years to get it up to speed, players would not go there for years appart from the odd visit to see something else. What reason would players have to go to LC when there is nothing there besides the city and another fully made city with more content is just one Lobby away? Its what happened to RDR2. A contentless wastland vs a wasteland with lots of content.

So your argument is that if LC dosn't have literally all the connect and all the businesses from LS at day one people wouldn't want to visit it? Cmon... you know that ain't true. Even if they added only couple missions and races at first people would still spend most of the time in LC cause its a new place.

Also from what I remember RDRO at first was pretty empty and people still played the sh*t out of it just to mess around. Same would be with LC even if they added an empty map with nothing in it.
 

1 hour ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

Like I said why would people go to a rather empty map that will take years to get to Los Santos Level of content when there is a map with all these things already there?

Thats pretty much the argumentation that other folks used when they said why North Yankton would be boring.

(...)

Well some wouldnt, quite a few on this forum probably would not.

Cause it would be a new place after 7 years of sitting in the same city that everyone knows like the back of their hand. Simple as that. And nah, the argument about North Yankton was that it would be the most boring solution out of all the other possibilities. It had nothing to do with the content they could add there.

A huge majority would still go to LC no matter what, and thats all that matters. R* wouldn't care that 0.1% of players wouldn't want to visit LC until it has the same amount of content as LS. Obviously they would keep adding more and more with every single dlc.

Imagine if to every new dlc they would port 2 old businesses to LC. That would surly be enough to keep people interested for years.
 

2 hours ago, fryday said:

I will repeat myself:  do you really think rockstar would release the biggest communtity wish ever (map expansion) inside a small sentence, which didnt even say about a new city? no no, they would announce it like anything other before.....but they didnt...because its not a new city....

Bruh it was a small teaser... In a post about rdro... Why would they say what it is right away when they have like... a half a year or more before release? R* dosn't do that.

And (not to say they know what they are talking about) if you haven't noticed Yan, Fun and all the mods/admins in here also think its gonna be a map expansion of some kind. Not necessarily a city tho, but still, a map expansion. 

But I do agree with most people in here that a small island is the most likely scenerio. So not a "city" but a "small town" probably. 

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Maybe its time for a new poll? Lets place some bets about the "entirely new location"

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Yeah, RDRO has shown R* that they can release a baron (and very broken) map and people will eat it all up. 

 

Sucks, but true. Plus here in GTA at least we have the creator to make races and such though. 

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1 hour ago, Pedro_Mathiaz said:

looks like people have opposite opinions:

- some, strongly belive on a map expansion.

- while others, dont belive that, at all.

 

I guess this discussion was what R* wanted when used that wording....

 

I am hoping for a map expansion but I do not dare believe in us getting one. However, if they wanna keep me (a GTAO player since day one) interested when it goes to next gen, I need something more. Something really substantial.

 

Everything released since the After Hours update has been among the stuff I enjoy the most in this game, yet I don't play GTAO near as much as I used to between 2013-2017. This past week I've been online more hours than I've been in the past 1,5 years combined and the game's just full of rank 0-100 players, with the occassional level 600 or 800-ish player sharing sessions with me.

 

I can't help but imagine most old timers bailed for similar reasons as to why I did myself - the boring map. They can add content upon content to this map, but as long as I have to cruise those LS streets a few more times, my interest's gonna be dead before I even exit my garage again.

 

I believe R* can put this on next gen and still have their new gen of players engaging in it, but to keep us old timers coming back I personally need something that feels closer to a "new" GTA. e.g. a new map.

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keggre

lc map expansion pls with naval dlc that allows us to buy a decommissioned cargo ship and smuggle goods between ls and lc. map expansion and naval dlc. 2 in 1.

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2 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

Like I said why would people go to a rather empty map that will take years to get to Los Santos Level of content when there is a map with all these things already there?

Thats pretty much the argumentation that other folks used when they said why North Yankton would be boring.

The simple fact that my game would finally play at 20+ fps would be enough reason for me to just stay the f*ck in LC. 

GTA V's map is hanging on by a thread on consoles.

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keggre

is there a limit on how big updates on consoles can be? there was someone on here who kept saying they can't do an update over 10gb but they never said why.

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