Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk IX

[Black-Dragon96]

17 minutes ago, SpaceOdyssey69 said:

What location?

Eclips tower.

Jet suddenly appeared on the map and explosions rained down like in the airstrike from merryweather. Only reason I did not die was that I loaded into the clouds due to an on call heist.

[fryday]

6 minutes ago, EnforcerKiller said:

Most likely because Rockstar has never used that kind of wording just for a new building to rob (doesn't necessarily mean anything of course), and maybe cause Rockstar hyped the Winter update up quite early.

thats no argumentation, thats purely speculation based on hopes and wishes

[Piro]

  

12 hours ago, REXX said:

Whatever we get in December... please bloody please give us the Cargoplane!

... and the ability to store vehicles in it.

Bombushka had that ability. Until they "patched" it cause people were using it transport cargo delivery faster... At least we have Avenger I guess
 

12 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

It's a whole city, they might as well release GTA VI before a whole LC expansion. And also yes, current engine limitations, V's RAGE is already super dying with current GTAO DLC lol.

But... didn't you just say that they were probably already working on remastering LC (basing it on that old portfolio leak) but the project was canceled? If it was canceled, I'm sure they would still want to reuse those assets one way or another (just like they kept reusing unused assets from canceled sp dlcs for gtav). 

Lets say they remade 40-60% of the LC map before they realized there are some problems with the code so they canceled it. Or they canceled it because of the success of gtao. Either way - I'm sure they would rather not waste all that effort and time by simply canceling it and never using it again. I think its more likely they would just put it on the back burner to release it later for gtao (cause they calculated that would give them way more money then re-releasing gta IV for its 10y anniversary). And doing that would be a great way to convince people to buy gtao once again (for the 3-4x) on next get consoles. After all nostalgia sells. 

Also I remember reading that GTA V was made with the intentions of supporting map expansions (beta hunt threads). What engine limitations have to do with this topic if the map would be loaded in a separate lobby? It would be like loading a separate game, a new version of gtao with a different map. And it would probably run way smoother then the current version of gtao.

Tho I still agree that a small island is far more likely scenerio. But that dosn't mean we can just rule out LC forever. Sure its not a likely scenerio, its a pipedream. But it still makes sense when you think about it. 

 

9 hours ago, keggre said:

I'm thinking maybe a year after GTA 6 comes out we get online 2.0. it probably will still be called gta online, but your character will be ported over with all their belongings to a new game engine, and the ls map might even be ported over too and run alongside the vice city map.

I agree with most things that you said but when they gonna make gtao 2.0 / gtaVIonline I'm 100% they won't let you port all of your belongings. The best case scenerio will be the ability to recreate your old character in the new game. Thats it. Theres literally no way they would let you port all of your old belongings and money. After all they want you to buy sharkcards. Not to mention that most of that content would look outdated by the time gta VI is out. 

 

8 hours ago, SparingDonkey30 said:

In my opinion GTA Online will be the definite online version of Grand Theft Auto. With Rockstar making it stand alone next year, there will definitely not be a GTA Online 2.

Yeah... cause everyone wants to play in the same outdated engine for 20 years... When they make GTA VI it will look as good (if not better) than RDR2 compered to GTAIV. Theres no way people will want to play the old outdated game forever when a newer and better version is out. Your idea sounds as silly as releasing RDR2 but adding RDRO thats based on RDR1 engine instead of RDR2 engine. Or releasing GTAV with a multiplayer based on GTA SA-MP.
 

6 hours ago, Mach1bud said:

They did learn. They learned that they can make the most profitable game in history without dedicated servers. Lol.

They learned that they can make the most profitable game in history while still making it the most broken online experience that ever was and not caring about it at all*
 

6 hours ago, rollschuh2282 said:

most of them are most likely assigned to future projects like GTA VI. or other games they have in development. and RDO and GTAO have seperate terams too. so GTAO could just have a small team or something.

Having "just a small team" for the thing that makes you the most amount of money dosn't seem like the smartest idea. Sure, they working on future projects in the meantime. So one of those projects might as well be LC. We simply don't know. But the "portfolio leak" could be a proof that they did work on it in the past.

Maybe a small team was working on LC ever since they "canceled" the remastered version. We don't know. 

 

2 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

Because appart from the logical reason of having an east coast city right next to a west coast city, the first generation of current gen consoles would go up in flames if they would put LC on the same map.

Literally not a single person in here thinks they would put LC next to LS in the same map...

 

17 minutes ago, fryday said:

thats purely speculation

Have... you read the name of this thread? 

Edited August 23, 2020 by Piro

[Commander S]

7 hours ago, SparingDonkey30 said:

In my opinion GTA Online will be the definite online version of Grand Theft Auto. With Rockstar making it stand alone next year, there will definitely not be a GTA Online 2.

 

 

Considering how GTAO was no small part in why GTA V was such a massive sales success at launch, do people really think that GTA VI is going to launch without an online component? Indeed, if GTA VI doesn't offer anything to folks who want multiplayer, custom characters, etc., and GTAO is still chugging away, then ...that's a recipe for current GTAO making a dent in potential sales of GTA VI, because the folks who bought GTA V for Online aren't necessarily going to jump ship for a single-player-only title.

 

Conversely, if R* ends support for GTAO just enough ahead of GTA VI releasing with a new version of Online (using the new map, clothing/hair physics, etc.), then that'll probably boost sales of GTA VI, because they'll have starved players enough so that they'll want to get their fix of new GTAO content from the new incarnation of the game.

 

The whole benefit of the Online design model is that R* can create a typically-detailed open-world, and then reuse all those assets for an ongoing multiplayer mode with uncapped "consumer spending" potential - having Online modes using 99% of the same stuff means that GTA V and RDR2 are effectively 'two games for the development cost of one'. Having to create all-new maps for GTAO, while making full single-player titles as normal (with their own maps), all while supporting RDO as well, is false economy - I'd already be skeptical about 'GTAO lasting indefinitely' if it just meant sticking with the same map, but some of the speculation about entire new islands (requiring comparable work to making an entire new game) just makes zero sense...

[D T]

11 hours ago, Geisterfaust said:

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I had no idea performance was this poor on base consoles. No wonder Rockstar wants to end support for these versions; another year of updates and this sh*t would hit the single digits.

[Commander S]

13 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

It's very possible the old Liberty City portfolio leak was also a remaster project that got canned. I'm almost sure we're not getting LC this Winter tho lol

 

I've wondered if it wasn't either a proof-of-concept that someone might have pitched internally (but didn't get the thumbs up), or maybe just someone's personal project - bit like how I've seen at least one example of an environment artist on GTA V (who did vehicle art for other games) doing 'hobby project' car models in V:

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Mach1bud said:

Seems to me they already did that twice. Once with old gen to new gen GTA V, and with the RDR to RDR2 map.

 

If those don't count as remastered maps then idk what does.

 

 

That's the problem with "remastered" as a descriptor - it's not like audio masters, where it means something specific, and so it just gets trotted out for anything where a new version of something gets some kind of makeover to look prettier.

 

In the case of RDR2 and the RDR1 portion of the map, it constitutes a full-on remake, if anything - the assets are all-new, and so at best, they probably used the old map layout as a template for getting the proportions the same. But it's not like they just added new props and higher-quality textures to the old map.

 

Meanwhile, the difference between current-gen and last-gen GTA V is pretty much just that - it's the same underlying map, same building models, same everything, but with nicer-quality textures (for the most part, anyway...), which is similar to most* other "remastered" games (Sleeping Dogs, Saints Row IV, Tomb Raider 2013, etc.). And I'm 99% confident that next-gen GTA V/Online is going to be more of the same, personally.

 

 

*the oddity is Saints Row the Third Remastered, where the project was outsourced to an entirely separate studio from Volition (Sperasoft), and while the base map, animations, etc. are unchanged, they've done more than just a bunch of higher-quality textures - every single building, prop, vehicle and NPC has been replaced with a new, updated model, including some things getting noticeable redesigns. I'm going to assume that R* isn't going to go that far with GTA V on PS5/XSX - again, it took for Deep Silver to hire a third-party studio to handle that job, since Volition is busy with Saints Row 5.

[Chrom]

Is it possible they can switch to dedicated servers just with an Update? Or does it require a complete new game with an updated Rage engine?

[EnforcerKiller]

1 hour ago, fryday said:

thats no argumentation, thats purely speculation based on hopes and wishes

Yeah and guess what the title of the thread is?

[Spider-Vice]

1 hour ago, Piro said:

But... didn't you just say that they were probably already working on remastering LC (basing it on that old portfolio leak) but the project was canceled? If it was canceled, I'm sure they would still want to reuse those assets one way or another (just like they kept reusing unused assets from canceled sp dlcs for gtav). 

It doesn't necessarily mean it was for GTAO????? Also even if it were, we're talking a game with much less content than it has now, if this was like 4+ years ago.

[DeltaV20]

 In my opinion the buisness battle/event cargo of halloween special will somehow like this, like the cargo we are going to deliver will be the spaceship parts and the ufo will be hovering in the hangar just for showcase with some high frequency sounds ,but first maybe we need to fight with merrweather in the hangar , and when we will be delivering it to our nightclub we will see some strange activity around us like some aliens will follow us and for the buisness battle to trigger we might need some special requirments like the time must be 00:00 and it needs to be foggy weather ,and ofc after the event cargo/halloween special cargo we will recieve a cool, rare and exclusive items (very much likely similar to aliens).( the cargo packages/spaceship parts might be 8 or 4, or we need to bust'em out from yellow balls attached on the ufo)

Edited August 23, 2020 by DeltaV20

[Black-Dragon96]

1 hour ago, fryday said:

thats no argumentation, thats purely speculation based on hopes and wishes

You do realise what topic you are in?

 

1 hour ago, Piro said:

Literally not a single person in here thinks they would put LC next to LS in the same map...

Well where would they put it then?

A seperate lobby, splitting up the playerbase they so desperatly need to grief eachother over bussiness cargo?

 

No offense but a new lobby for a new city is 100% not happening. They would have to recreate everything they made over the past years for LS to be in LC too. Diffrent Bussinesses, Freemode events, jobs etc.

Without that people would stick to the LS lobby making the investment not worth it.

 

 

Something thats on the same Map however could still benefit from the old content.

I can do a freemode low flying challenge over a diffrent island no problem.

A hunt the beast could still run on the main land and everyone on the island could just pile into a plane, fly over there and do the event.

You could still run your bussiness in LS and do other things on the island.

[Geisterfaust]

15 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

It's very possible the old Liberty City portfolio leak was also a remaster project that got canned. I'm almost sure we're not getting LC this Winter tho lol

What's the most important here is that we have absolutely zero intel regarding this screenshot of LC. At some time when it surfaced some of us were sure that it was fake. Nothing changed since these times, it could have even been some mod showcase at early stage.

[Flash FM]

7 hours ago, SonofLosSantos said:

Just a reference to the north Yankton map glitch

but there is no isle in North Yankton, it's def a Catalina Island hint

[CarimboHanky]

17 minutes ago, DeltaV20 said:

like the cargo we are going to deliver will be the spaceship parts and the ufo will be hovering in the hangar just for showcase with some high frequency sounds ,but first maybe we need to fight with merrweather in the hangar

our own version of the area 51 raid

5 minutes ago, Lazlow.Jones said:

but there is no isle in North Yankton, it's def a Catalina Island hint

naa man, its about north yankton glitch, for the glitch you used to fly out to the ocean until it spawned, like an isle(island) and then they patched... "ah its gone"

[Piro]

1 hour ago, Spider-Vice said:

It doesn't necessarily mean it was for GTAO????? Also even if it were, we're talking a game with much less content than it has now, if this was like 4+ years ago.

Lol I never said it was... I literally said the same thing you did, that it probably started as GTA IV remake for 10 year anniversary but later they canceled it for whatever reason. And if thats true, its very likely they would want to reuse those assets for gtao later on. And finishing a project like that would surly take 4+ years to finish (especially if only a small team was working on it). That could also explain why all of the existing content for gtao was so... mediocre at best even tho its the best selling game ever. Its like part of the team was working on something else for the last couple of years. 

And also its not like all of gtao content would be available in LC from the start, right? They would probably spend couple years re-releasing all the old content on the new map (bikers, bunkers, ceo office etc). Just think how much money would they make. Less then 10% of the original effort for more than 2x the original profits.

I think if they did gave us LC, they would start simple. Couple apartments, garages, couple missions and thats it.
 

50 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

Well where would they put it then? A seperate lobby

Yes.

50 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

No offense but a new lobby for a new city is 100% not happening. They would have to recreate everything they made over the past years for LS to be in LC too. Diffrent Bussinesses, Freemode events, jobs etc.

Without that people would stick to the LS lobby making the investment not worth it.

Oh no... all that existing content that they would dripfeed by slowly porting it to the next map for the next couple of years...  as I said, less then 10% of the original effort for more than 2x the original profits.

And just as you said, at first there wouldn't be enough of content there so people would still go back to LS to make money. So you still would have those griefers they need. Also they have more then enough players for two maps... now they have more players than ever before.

And when they start releasing businesses on the new map, the griefers would fallow. Not to mention they were already testing different lobby types in the past according to Fun.
 

47 minutes ago, Geisterfaust said:

it could have even been some mod showcase at early stage.

That wasn't a mod. Portfolio of someone who works at R*. Still, it might be a fan project of his. But if that was the case, I don't think he would waste his time remaking all the buildings in the background as well. And if he did, he would surly focus on them more instead of releasing a single picture of the park where you barely can even see the stuff in the back.
 

45 minutes ago, Lazlow.Jones said:

but there is no isle in North Yankton, it's def a Catalina Island hint

I agree that it could be a hint for Catalina island. But NY was an isle that disappeared since R* patched the glitch. "Isle" as in chunk under the map that you had to fall on to to get there. So in a way it was "a secluded isle" surrounded by nothing. 
 

58 minutes ago, DeltaV20 said:

 

but first maybe we need to fight with merrweather in the hangar , and when we will be delivering it to our nightclub we will see some strange activity around us like some aliens will follow us and for the buisness battle to trigger we might need some special requirments like the time must be 00:00 and it needs to be foggy weather ,and ofc after the event cargo/halloween special cargo we will recieve a cool, rare and exclusive items (very much likely similar to aliens).

The hangar will be filled with FZ soldiers and scientists. Theres no reason for merryweather to be there. FIB? Sure. But not merryweather. 

Also you deliver those parts to Omega (the guy from SP). My guess is the reword will be nothing more than a different skin for the alien outfit (the same outfit you get from Solomon). We already found different texture variants in the files

Edited August 23, 2020 by Piro

[Spider-Vice]

2 minutes ago, Piro said:

Lol I never said it was... I literally said the same thing you did, that it probably started as GTA IV remake for 10 year anniversary but later they canceled it for whatever reason.

Sorry, must've misinterpreted you then. 

[rollschuh2282]

2 hours ago, Chrom said:

Is it possible they can switch to dedicated servers just with an Update? Or does it require a complete new game with an updated Rage engine?

switching to dedicated server is way too much work.

i mean the whole game is build on P2P.

the entirety or online is build on it and even parts of SP.

they would basicly need to re-write the ENTIRE network code from scratch for dedicated servers.

and that would be way too much work, and then they would need to test basicly how they did online during V development.

testing Every single aspect regarding content, synch etc.

like during V development they had a long time the issue that a player would shoot once but was seen by other players shooting 3 times.

it would basicly be re-developing online and network side of the game from scratch.

Edited August 23, 2020 by rollschuh2282

[Gridl0k]

You could conceivably however mesh in a bunch of 'dedicated' servers in the classic sense, instances running the game/net engine but not the player side (like quake.exe -server because I am indeed ancient). So you've got a bunch of AWS players who aren't players but who are preferential when it comes to host selection. Drop them into the existing reserved spectator slot. Or something.

 

However at this point naa

Edited August 23, 2020 by Gridl0k

[AngelEyes_]

No one pays attention to the new revolver in this newly updated file?

[rollschuh2282]

7 minutes ago, AngelEyes_ said:

No one pays attention to the new revolver in this newly updated file?

thee is no new revolver

[fryday]

1 hour ago, EnforcerKiller said:

Yeah and guess what the title of the thread is?

oh man think about it.....you can speculate, because of facts/infos  and you can dream your wildest fantasies and mark them as facts....thats whats are many people are doing here. the create a fake reality in their heads, then when NO ma expansion will arrive, they will react, like rockstar lied to us....

 

 

 

[SummerFreeze]

3 hours ago, Piro said:

 Bombushka had that ability. Until they "patched" it cause people were using it transport cargo delivery faster... At least we have Avenger I guess

That's still works; you just can't have any modification other than Armor, Engine, Handling, Respray on your Bombushka.

[Keep it True]

5 hours ago, SpaceOdyssey69 said:

Has anyone yet encountered/experienced these new Madam Nazar related events?

What are these new events? Are they just new fortune readings from madam nazar?

[LeakyLine]

People still think Catalina Island is real?

[Gridl0k]

3 minutes ago, LeakyLine said:

People still think Catalina Island is real?

People put their belief in what they want

[Black-Dragon96]

1 hour ago, Piro said:

Oh no... all that existing content that they would dripfeed by slowly porting it to the next map for the next couple of years...  as I said, less then 10% of the original effort for more than 2x the original profits.

And just as you said, at first there wouldn't be enough of content there so people would still go back to LS to make money. So you still would have those griefers they need. Also they have more then enough players for two maps... now they have more players than ever before.

And when they start releasing businesses on the new map, the griefers would fallow. Not to mention they were already testing different lobby types in the past according to Fun.

If it would take then years to get it up to speed, players would not go there for years appart from the odd visit to see something else.

What reason would players have to go to LC when there is nothing there besides the city and another fully made city with more content is just one Lobby away?

Its what happened to RDR2. A contentless wastland vs a wasteland with lots of content.

 

56 minutes ago, fryday said:

oh man think about it.....you can speculate, because of facts/infos  and you can dream your wildest fantasies and mark them as facts....thats whats are many people are doing here. the create a fake reality in their heads, then when NO ma expansion will arrive, they will react, like rockstar lied to us....

 

 

 

We do have facts. The fact that it will take place in an entirely new location.

An entirely new location can be anything from a building to the surface of Pluto.

Edited August 23, 2020 by Black-Dragon96

[keggre]

1 minute ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

players would not go there for years appart from the odd visit to see something else.

no they would go there for heist missions

[Black-Dragon96]

Just now, keggre said:

no they would go there for heist missions

And then right back to the LS lobby.

[keggre]

5 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

And then right back to the LS lobby.

well I think the idea is that r* would update it on nextgen so that there's more to do there. right now there's hardly any incentive to buy the game on nextgen, so adding LC is at least something.

[kingkontinuum]

6 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

And then right back to the LS lobby.

I wouldn’t go back to an LS lobby if an LC lobby was added.