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Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk IX  

432 members have voted

  1. 1. When do you think the next update is going to be REVEALED?

    • October
      16
    • November
      201
    • December
      203
    • January
      12
  2. 2. When do you think the next update is going to be RELEASED?

    • Earlier than December
      21
    • December
      386
    • January
      12
    • Later
      13
  3. 3. Where do you think the new heist will take place?

    • A tropical casino island (e.g. inspired by Catalina Island)
      122
    • A new city or town, or a part of it (e.g. GTA SA's Liberty City bit)
      47
    • We goin' LC bois and gals, Three Leaf Clover style!
      51
    • "New location" is all lies, just a random place in the existing GTA V map!
      212
  4. 4. What do you think will be the highest possible payout for the new heist?

    • < GTA$2M
      90
    • GTA$2M - GTA$3M
      148
    • GTA$3M - GTA$4M
      109
    • GTA$4M - GTA$5M
      48
    • > GTA$5M
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keggre
6 minutes ago, Geisterfaust said:

Of course it runs okay on PC, especially if it is a decent PC. Consoles, that's another story. And game breaking bugs, there will be more of them with the new big map added to the game.

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if they were to add in lc, no way they would just plunk it in on the same map, they would definitely have to have separate sessions. since lc is smaller, there's a chance the game could run better there on consoles. 

 

idk if I have faith in rockstar to fix all of the bugs that would come with the new map though. they would have to do a lot of play testing probably. 

 

I usually only experience game breaking bugs when the game is loading in and out of interiors. it might be different for a new map though.

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33 minutes ago, keggre said:

lol gta online runs okay on my pc. I don't understand these console problems I guess. there are game breaking bugs occasionally like getting stuck in loading screens, but no lag for me.

 

tbh the game breaking bugs would be more forgivable if the f*ckn loading screens weren't so long. this game makes billions ffs, get us some dedicated servers...

Servers after the summer special update, seems like they load a lot more quicker. Also, R* in their best dreams they didn't knew that GTA Online would get so famous and so playable and sell so well. That's why they didn't made effort in spending money in dedicated servers. You know that R* tries to not spend the most they can. But, they also should know better...nowadays not having dedicated servers is just pure bullsh*t. I never played any game that would cause server splitter like GTA Online does, not to mention that the cheatery that we see in game would be way less or even just done by just a few expert hackers but currently any joe can pay for a mod account and screw the game experience for everyone. I don't get why gta have one or the most toxic community in the gaming world. In a game that were rated +18 and just some time ago +17 to help selling better, should have the most mature community of them all, but either are just kids or adults with entitled kid mentality.

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my worthless $0.02 on the tees, since i seen people talk about how it hints to a lc map expansion or whatever because those are gta iv brands;

i think that those tshirts were a part of cops & crooks dlc (and/or its dripfeed). note that:
-cops and crooks was a multiplayer mode in gta iv.
-lcpdfr, a very popular mod that lets you roleplay as a police officer, originated in gta iv.

what i'm trying to say is; those tshirts, and qub3d even, are a throwback to the game where it all began. obviously since the dlc didn't happen, it's all out of context now. i don't think it has anything to do with a lc map expansion at all.


so to add on to the lc talk, i don't think they're adding it to gtao anytime soon, if ever. it would be nice to have, but there's no way it's gonna work

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5 minutes ago, keggre said:

if they were to add in lc, no way they would just plunk it in on the same map, they would definitely have to have separate sessions. since lc is smaller, there's a chance the game could run better there on consoles. 

 

idk if I have faith in rockstar to fix all of the bugs that would come with the new map though. they would have to do a lot of play testing probably. 

 

I usually only experience game breaking bugs when the game is loading in and out of interiors. it might be different for a new map though.

Two of the most wtf things that i see about bugs and glitchs and merged things is: why the f*ck after so many years we still struggle with the problem of the helmet that you choose not save and the characters just put the default ones or the first that came up in the inventory list and watches that are incompatible with some pants.

2 minutes ago, WildBrick142 said:

my worthless $0.02 on the tees, since i seen people talk about how it hints to a lc map expansion or whatever because those are gta iv brands;

i think that those tshirts were a part of cops & crooks dlc (and/or its dripfeed). note that:
-cops and crooks was a multiplayer mode in gta iv.
-lcpdfr, a very popular mod that lets you roleplay as a police officer, originated in gta iv.

what i'm trying to say is; those tshirts, and qub3d even, are a throwback to the game where it all began. obviously since the dlc didn't happen, it's all out of context now. i don't think it has anything to do with a lc map expansion at all.


so to add on to the lc talk, i don't think they're adding it to gtao anytime soon, if ever. it would be nice to have, but there's no way it's gonna work

The only problem is that all are hints of liberty city, even that prop hunt of solomon, one of them are in that cabin in the desert in the same table where there's a niko bellic wanted post...like, from all the houses in the game, that seems like a very odd coincidence. Also, why the f*ck R* would market a "new location" for heists? They could say: "expect new heists" and not adding "in a new brand new location", bcz no sh*t sherlock...new heists in a new location, somewhere in the LS map...of course. But it doenst seems it will be so obvious. I'm towards a new island or in the wildest dreams, LC.

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1 minute ago, WildBrick142 said:

my worthless $0.02 on the tees, since i seen people talk about how it hints to a lc map expansion or whatever because those are gta iv brands;

i think that those tshirts were a part of cops & crooks dlc (and/or its dripfeed). note that:
-cops and crooks was a multiplayer mode in gta iv.
-lcpdfr, a very popular mod that lets you roleplay as a police officer, originated in gta iv.

what i'm trying to say is; those tshirts, and qub3d even, are a throwback to the game where it all began. obviously since the dlc didn't happen, it's all out of context now. i don't think it has anything to do with a lc map expansion at all.


so to add on to the lc talk, i don't think they're adding it to gtao anytime soon, if ever. it would be nice to have, but there's no way it's gonna work

Probably, but i think we will get the CnC update after the heist update as the final update for XBOX ONE and PS4. Or they will just integrate the CnC content into the heist update.

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—TheSquid—
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Mach1bud said:

Seems to me they already did that twice. Once with old gen to new gen GTA V, and with the RDR to RDR2 map.

 

If those don't count as remastered maps then idk what does.

I haven't played any of the RDR games so I can't speak for that, but I would assume the current-gen iteration of GTAV was built in tandem with the old one, no? I'm guessing it wasn't really a remaster so much as taking everything from the older gen and then cramming in whatever else could fit into the new one. Not to mention the company's changed a lot since then. By everything I've read here, the game engine itself can't take anymore—hence the speed limit, lack of interiors and so on. I feel like the work required to bring Online into the next generation is more than what was required last time around. The problem is no longer the hardware.

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20 hours ago, WELLGAMER789 said:

 

I also noticed that there were files for the "rebel2" and "seashark3" as well. So it seems like there are new modifications for the clean rebel (rebel2), because you can only add performance upgrades (armor,brakes,ems,etc) to it. The "seashark3" could be a new variant of the seashark or the life guard seashark from story mode.

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CarimboHanky
7 hours ago, gta111 said:

Is there ANY Glitch where i can still get this shirt on XB1 or pc thru modding only? 

no idea, i got it back in the day with the help of a fellow forum member, dont know if is still possible on xbox, pc is a free for all very likely people can still get it there.

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1 hour ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

Servers after the summer special update, seems like they load a lot more quicker. Also, R* in their best dreams they didn't knew that GTA Online would get so famous and so playable and sell so well. That's why they didn't made effort in spending money in dedicated servers. You know that R* tries to not spend the most they can. But, they also should know better...nowadays not having dedicated servers is just pure bullsh*t. I never played any game that would cause server splitter like GTA Online does, not to mention that the cheatery that we see in game would be way less or even just done by just a few expert hackers but currently any joe can pay for a mod account and screw the game experience for everyone. I don't get why gta have one or the most toxic community in the gaming world. In a game that were rated +18 and just some time ago +17 to help selling better, should have the most mature community of them all, but either are just kids or adults with entitled kid mentality.

Imagine the harrasment that some people find only because they killed some kid on a mk2 and they got mad and ddos ur ip, sigh

The game is about to reach unplayable levels and vets are really leaving either to five m, red dead or other games

 

 

There is no faith in gta 6 multiplayer looking at the state of how red dead its and gta:o

 

The easy fix would be able to sell your bs on Invite Only lobbies or with friends

 

yes i know, i can accept getting Orb or Killed on a mk2 or tryhards destroying my cargo

 

But when a modder can just simply blow up ur i/e car and leave, thats a completly different story

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seth297

people saying lc cannnot be done on this gen for limitations it is a task but hard impossible . 

need to look at the bigger picture here rockstar have got away with the same map on this gen how long do you think they cannot  milk online on next gen with lc and vc alongside the current map.  

 

my theory is with the crunch of rdr 2 and the cost of that and gta v in sp alone  and the success of online some investment and the return it has and potential of online. 

rockstar did reboot gta 6 from what it was probably on a scale of rdr 2 downsized to to more a gta 4 scale which dont forget still cost 100 million to make so gta 6 wont be cheap. 

a maybe smaller map and story with the purpose of porting it to the new online hence why i say on the gta 6 forum keep expectations low.  

 

as for lc it is a hd map not even half the size of the current one and it would cost time and money to say scout catlina island and remake it from nothing so the idea of porting a hd map to the current gen is not that mad in contrast especially on a project that has been in development in 2014 . 

whether with get lc in the winter update its 50/50 a map expansion i am certain but they might save lc for the next gen but like i said in previous posts what a selling point it would be to get people to buy the new online if it had lc as well as the current map  lc if it comes in the winter update will be barebones anyway likely  a place for the heist and thats it . 

 

and last point there will no gta online 2.0 thats rubbish so the whole reason of standalone online is it will be the online for next gen so if there are doing vice city from nothing why would not reuse the most used gta city already hd in online and the next update biggest update ever new location hints in last two event weeks of lc rest my case .

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CarimboHanky
1 hour ago, WildBrick142 said:

so to add on to the lc talk, i don't think they're adding it to gtao anytime soon, if ever. it would be nice to have, but there's no way it's gonna work

while i dont think LC is coming any time soon(december) i think they may add it once they abandon currentgen and move to exclusively update nextgen.

 

having that map expansion or a way of getting to liberty city will make a great selling point for the stand alone gtao

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skc_2srk
18 minutes ago, Ombre_Blanco said:

I also noticed that there were files for the "rebel2" and "seashark3" as well. So it seems like there are new modifications for the clean rebel (rebel2), because you can only add performance upgrades (armor,brakes,ems,etc) to it. The "seashark3" could be a new variant of the seashark or the life guard seashark from story mode.

I think, the new police vehicles are for the new map and not for a cop dlc 

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Ombre_Blanco
Just now, CarimboHanky said:

while i dont think LC is coming any time soon(december) i think they may add it once they abandon currentgen and move to exclusively update nextgen.

 

having that map expansion or a way of getting to liberty city will make a great selling point for the stand alone gtao

TBH I think they could possibly add in LC as part of a new heist. They could make a small portion of the map accessible for the heist and Lester could explain that we need to lay low after pulling off the heist,which would be the in-game reason of why we can't return to LC until next gen. This would create hype and it would make people want to transfer over to next gen if they make LC fully accessible in the next gen versions. 

Just now, skc_2srk said:

I think, the new police vehicles are for the new map and not for a cop dlc 

Maybe. We could also get a new business after the heists update that requires us to go undercover and  use police vehicles, idk.

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keggre
Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, seth297 said:

rockstar did reboot gta 6 from what it was probably on a scale of rdr 2 downsized to to more a gta 4 scale which dont forget still cost 100 million to make so gta 6 wont be cheap. 

 

My guess is that gta 6 was rebooted around late 2016, early 2017. I disagree that there won't be a gta online 2.0 though. They gotta update the online engine eventually, that would suck if they didn't. 

 

I'm thinking maybe a year after GTA 6 comes out we get online 2.0. it probably will still be called gta online, but your character will be ported over with all their belongings to a new game engine, and the ls map might even be ported over too and run alongside the vice city map. 

 

I'm saying 2016/2017 is when they likely rebooted it because that was also the same time rockstar put a lot more focus on gta online. 2017 was the year we got gunrunning, smugglers run and the doomsday heist.

 

I think gta VI was probably rebooted to better accommodate dlc. hence why there will probably be an online 2.0.

 

of course that's just a guess and I don't know exactly what's going on at rockstar.

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FortifiedGooner86
4 minutes ago, Ombre_Blanco said:

TBH I think they could possibly add in LC as part of a new heist. They could make a small portion of the map accessible for the heist and Lester could explain that we need to lay low after pulling off the heist,which would be the in-game reason of why we can't return to LC until next gen. This would create hype and it would make people want to transfer over to next gen if they make LC fully accessible in the next gen versions. 

Yeah makes sense. It would be a bit cheeky of R* though! You know, having us wait until the end of fall for the next-gen GTAO. I could totally see them doing that. I wonder if we will get a March/April update? That could add more content and features to the new location.

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, FortifiedGooner86 said:

Yeah makes sense. It would be a bit cheeky of R* though! You know, having us wait until the end of fall for the next-gen GTAO. I could totally see them doing that. I wonder if we will get a March/April update? That could add more content and features to the new location.

I assume the CnC update. It could be like a Import/Export part 2 type of update. You can use police vehicles to go undercover and steal rival cars and drugs/cargo and bring them back to your business. It could be GTA version's of NFS Hot Pursuit which would be cool and it could be a workaround with everyone protesting anything that has police related to it. IDK if they will do that though.

Edit: I forgot to mention that there are already missions where we break into a police impound lot and steal the vehicles (getaway vehicles setup for casino heist and the "crime scene" and "traffic stop" source missions for vehicle cargo).

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53 minutes ago, skc_2srk said:

Imagine the harrasment that some people find only because they killed some kid on a mk2 and they got mad and ddos ur ip, sigh

The game is about to reach unplayable levels and vets are really leaving either to five m, red dead or other games

 

 

There is no faith in gta 6 multiplayer looking at the state of how red dead its and gta:o

 

The easy fix would be able to sell your bs on Invite Only lobbies or with friends

 

yes i know, i can accept getting Orb or Killed on a mk2 or tryhards destroying my cargo

 

But when a modder can just simply blow up ur i/e car and leave, thats a completly different story

The awnswer is dedicated servers...and as far as i know (i don't play RDO) RDO dont have them. And at this point idk why...R* should've learn the lesson already from 5 years of GTAO experience. I think we will get that in GTA VI, GTA is always their best selling title and the one that get more love. I think, or rather, i hope, that they will not screw that.

They will not let you sell in private session bcz they want to to have the change to be blown away in order to lose the profit then you get mad and then you buy a shark card.

The problem with higher levels (legit ones) is that they probably are veterans and very good at pvp and when some players get owned, probably a lot will report you. But the highest lowest thing that some hacker can do to a player is blow up an entire lobby with the name of an innocent player, then everyone will report you, despite you being innocent. That happened to me, i received a message some days ago about: "we are investigating if your cheating....behave yourself..." something in those terms.

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ADropInTheOcean

Just a tidbit of speculation, but since we're mentioning cut aircraft, does anyone else remember when the Hydra was meant to be added in the Flight School Update but instead ended up being pushed all the way to the Heists? I can't help but wonder if there *might* be a similar situation here with the Sea Sparrow and Cargobob, e.g., maybe Rockstar felt like they're a better fit for whatever the upcoming large DLC is?

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Just now, henriquedematos said:

Just a tidbit of speculation, but since we're mentioning cut aircraft, does anyone else remember when the Hydra was meant to be added in the Flight School Update but instead ended up being pushed all the way to the Heists? I can't help but wonder if there *might* be a similar situation here with the Sea Sparrow and Cargobob, e.g., maybe Rockstar felt like they're a better fit for whatever the upcoming large DLC is?

The Hydra was actually supposed to be in the og verison of the game (it was seen in the reveal trailer in 2011). I could see us using a cargobob for the new heist. Maybe its the version with the magnet or weaponized.

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CarimboHanky
50 minutes ago, keggre said:

I'm thinking maybe a year after GTA 6 comes out we get online 2.0. it probably will still be called gta online, but your character will be ported over with all their belongings to a new game engine

while i'd love to continue this long journey with my character, i see a huge problem with the economy if they allowed us OGs to transfer our characters to gtao 2.0 with all of our belongings.

 

while it will benefit long time players, it will hurt newcomers, ill be no different than throwing a new player into a gtao lobby in 2020, the wealth gap between players will be overwhelming.

 

i wont mind if they allow us to transfer our characters and maybe all the clothes we own, but money, vehicles, etc should remain bound to los santos for the sake of balance.

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In my opinion GTA Online will be the definite online version of Grand Theft Auto. With Rockstar making it stand alone next year, there will definitely not be a GTA Online 2.

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35 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

The awnswer is dedicated servers...and as far as i know (i don't play RDO) RDO dont have them. And at this point idk why...R* should've learn the lesson already from 5 years of GTAO experience. I think we will get that in GTA VI, GTA is always their best selling title and the one that get more love. I think, or rather, i hope, that they will not screw that.

 

Honestly Rockstar should have learned with GTA 4 multiplayer mode. There was hacking/modding/w.e you want to call it there too. The lobby disconnects were also an issue as well a decade ago. But no, they continue the same shoddy BS 10 years later!!

If the next GTA online continue this crap, first off it better be free. And second, I won't invest so much time into it because by that point it'll be obviously clear they just don't care.

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, keggre said:

lol gta online runs okay on my pc. I don't understand these console problems I guess. there are game breaking bugs occasionally like getting stuck in loading screens, but no lag for me.

 

yeah, but i bet you will get lower fps in full sessions.

like i run at around 60-75fps in story mode in empty sessions,

but in full sessions, there are times in which i drop down to 35-40.

and if the consoles are only at 30, then those things can drop them way below 30

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, SparingDonkey30 said:

In my opinion GTA Online will be the definite online version of Grand Theft Auto. With Rockstar making it stand alone next year, there will definitely not be a GTA Online 2.

I agree with this.

 

2 hours ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

And at this point idk why...R* should've learn the lesson already from 5 years of GTAO experience.

They did learn. They learned that they can make the most profitable game in history without dedicated servers. Lol.

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Devdevi45

I personally just don’t get ..why do people doubt a map expansion (LC preferably) won’t happen. 
 

R* is made up of 1k+ people 

R* hasn’t released sh*t (new game) since 2018 

R* could’ve been working on LC for years 

 

Anything is possible 

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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Devdevi45 said:

R* is made up of 1k+ people

and you think all those 1k+ people only work on 1 thing?

most of them are most likely assigned to future projects like GTA VI.

or other games they have in development.

and RDO and GTAO have seperate terams too.

so GTAO could just have a small team or something.

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Devdevi45 said:

R* is made up of 1k+ people 

I think they actually have around 3k employees now. they've been hiring a lot recently ig

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2 hours ago, suicidal_banana said:

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Just a reference to the north Yankton map glitch

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2 hours ago, rollschuh2282 said:

and you think all those 1k+ people only work on 1 thing?

most of them are most likely assigned to future projects like GTA VI.

or other games they have in development.

and RDO and GTAO have seperate terams too.

so GTAO could just have a small team or something.

There's no VI, there's GTAO for many years

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