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drizztle
1 hour ago, US Marshal1911 said:

That’s just it, they are not small potatoes and not every single person in gta online is a “criminal masterminds” a 12 year old with mommy’s credit card and oppressor2 is not a criminal ceo. Most of the people I said are not retired; just because you beat the game playing as Niko doesn’t mean the life in LC stops. Agent 14 could suggest Henrique and Armando as gun traffickers. Tony prince can recommend Luis for some nightclub business missions. Packie McCreary is definitely still alive in Los Santos so who is saying he can never go back to LC, he’s still running with heist crews because you have the option to save him online from the cops in a botched robbery. Elizabeta was a drug queen that was pretty well off because she called the shots. Lester definitely has contacts in LC because Lester is the biggest criminal mastermind in GTA. And I guarantee you Madrazo has LC contacts for us to work for if not straight up working for Madrazo in LC. You seem to forget how many characters were raised up in hierarchy because Niko and Luis helped get them there. Even Roman went up in the world after his cab stand fire because of insurance money and he upgraded his car fleet after. These are the exact type of situations that Rockstar would need to pull off to sell LC to the new and old players, the veterans would return to familiar faces and the newbies would get to learn and possibly want to play gta 4. 

Every player acting a criminal in SA, no matter their actual age and career.....

They seriously dun match our GTA O character in 2020 as we own some factory, jet and company with factory and warehouse. 

Criminal should quite the business as soon as they earn enough money.........

Working as a criminal for over 10 years isn't a good story for them.....

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Tennyzulander
3 hours ago, Balou said:

Looks beautiful 

Been there twice!

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skc_2srk
17 hours ago, repl0id said:

Dont think they'd make another racing DLC cus ppl's reaction would be great, another racing dlc, meh...

Not to mention open wheel races are insufferably boring. I dont even own an open wheel car. Only racing I actually enjoy in GTA is sport/super stunts. I hope they leave owr to the creator and thats that.

What I am hoping for is a QoL dlc, with new vehicles sure but focusing on removing advanced handling flags to all vehicles that are useless because of them, a ton of new freemode activities, and maybe a new building with a few quests that introduce the storyline for december's update. And if we' re really lucky, maybe some car class rebalancing ( im looking at you pariah, infernus, bullet, sultanrs, gp1, etc) to make them more balanced again...put underperforming sports into sedans and underperfoeming supers into sports and overperforming sports into supers...not holding my breath on that tho. 

Edit: Bonus points if they fix car bugs that have been around forever, like the back armor bug on the scarab that lets u blow it up with 40 rifle shots, the xa-21 cant equit some mods or it will crash bug, etc...

 

Even better if they fixed that bug with lots of sport cars not making the jump in "in the city" stunt track

Cars will still be useless until they fix the stupid mosquito mk2

 

with every update there comes a ban wave of modders

 

Then again, racing will be involved, yes, but not main topic maybe

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VitoCorleone1992
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, drizztle said:

Well.....  the dialogue in gtao told us the timeline is actually moving, Several dlc are actually related.

 

Stunt race to arena war(Stupidest 1)

CEO, warehouse, vehicle warehouse

MC, factory bunker 

Bunker, Hanger,Factory(We have wider connection to miltary and fire arm dealer and so we involved to the DD)

Factories,warehouse and bunker business make us well know in underground business and then Tony Prince try to convince us to run a  NG for washing money

NC make use more popular and rich, so we buy a penthouse for our success, And that's why Vincent know our name.

Casino and arcade have a link story

 

How will the story continue?

1st. we want a vacation place to spend or wash our money.

2nd we expand our business to other city

 

As I mentioned, the new island probably 1 mutual place for gta 5 and gta 6 online section. 

It should be somewhere the new gta 6 story not mainly happen in(support area in singlep layer and 2nd island for online section)....it maybe somewhere in regular size for several missions and big enough for several buyable properties with a decent distance(I assume they have 10 property and 3 km each, l) .....san fierro /vegas has a petty good size.

Vice city is fine but some rumor says either vice city or LC, so I exclude it.

 

New city probably not going to put in consideration as GTA 5 is already a old game owned by many players.

For old maps appeared in older gta. R* has enough data and resources such as city pictures,info, landmark when did research and a basic city design,

Your line of thought have only one flaw: a brand new map take literally years to be made. R* put hands to work in the map or maps of gta 6, whatever that will be, soon after the release of gta V. Dont forget tha they started to work in RDR 2, 8 years prior the release. So, do you really think they would go through all the work to take other big endeavour of making a map expansion to gta online as a brand new city? There's no way. At maximum, it can be a polished LC, bcz the map is already done. But no way we will get a new other city. So, if, IF, a map expansion is the "new brand location" and not just a new bulding, it will be just a polished new LC or a new small town, like NY, that would not be so hard to add new locations to it, but, if is NY do not expect more amount of land than the size of a Paleto Bay and Sandy Shores united, at most.

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lc i still think might come anyway as has been pointed out its in the hd era  they worked on it before and it could take online to the next level  and lets be honest where else are they going to go north yankton would require more work as it is far more unfinished then lc and a new location would be. a complete rebuild . 

 

i calling it lc wiĺ be the map expansion and it is a map expansion yan has confirmed it and a new building is not a map expansion  

 

 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, VitoSpeed said:

NY OR LC?

I choose NY, you can see, Rockstar made a lot of content in NY, but some people said that GTAV will have Liberty City DLC, Franklin and Michael will come out.

Did you forget New York ís Liberty City?

 

Edit: I'm retardo.

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North Yankton is one of suitable locations for rally racing sessions. Rockstar should add new race events including rally racing sets in North Yankton.

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US Marshal1911
32 minutes ago, drizztle said:

Every player acting a criminal in SA, no matter their actual age and career.....

They seriously dun match our GTA O character in 2020 as we own some factory, jet and company with factory and warehouse. 

Criminal should quite the business as soon as they earn enough money.........

Working as a criminal for over 10 years isn't a good story for them.....

You’re point is not a good one, if everyone is a criminal ceo mastermind then remove Lamar, Gerald, Simeon, Madrazo, Ron, and Trevor missions from GTA online because you’re so high and mighty that you don’t want to do missions. That attitude is BS. Not everyone has a bland stale mind and can’t use an imagination to have fun. Who gives a flying sh*t if we are ceo’s. I still run missions for Gerald and I’m lvl 876 with 106M. I’m giving you the most logical way that Rockstar can justify and introduce LC with old cast and your just being a dismal entitled player who can’t see past your own lack off cognitive imagination. 

10 minutes ago, Pizzahut said:

Did you forget New York ís Liberty City?

NY means North Yankton not New York 

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Posted (edited)
46 minutes ago, drizztle said:

Every player acting a criminal in SA, no matter their actual age and career.....

They seriously dun match our GTA O character in 2020 as we own some factory, jet and company with factory and warehouse. 

Criminal should quite the business as soon as they earn enough money.........

Working as a criminal for over 10 years isn't a good story for them.....

Yea, seems logical to retire once they get enough money to live care free lifestyle, but they never do, in real life they can't escape it, either because of adrenaline rush, being in position of power or because of repercussions of other members of criminal organization. Once you in, you can't escape it,same as various government agencies, it's hard to adjust to a life of ordinary civilian and in case of organized crime if someone want out they fear he gonna rat them out. Online characters on the other hand are more independent but still kinda work for bigger crime syndicates such as Securoserv or IAA. They work for smaller pay for those they surpass in wealth and resources such as Simeon or Gerald, you can kinda consider our characters adrenaline junkies of some sort, because they have enough money but are still doing risky work for small payout. One thing that could solidify online characters as criminal kingpins and that was ''touched'' a little with nightclub staff that you can assign to acquire merchandise tied to other businesses and they are basically some kind of henchmen for your organization , is giving us an option to have gang members that could either sell our supplies or be recruited to help with missions and free roam similar to GTA San Andreas, but doubtful that will happen due to engine limitations or that way grinding would be a lot easier so would be making money and R* wouldn't want to make it too easy.

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Piro
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2 hours ago, andersonmv92 said:

 

We will see after nex gen version comes out, what this new version will bring to the table

GTA Online being considered "standalone" should mean more than just separated download, imo

The enhanced version will just make it look more like the PC version. It will run better and they will probably add animals to it. Maybe more trees (you can see in GTA V trailer that the original version of the game had way more trees in paleto bay, they removed them to get better performance). And If we are lucky they might add high res textures and a shader like this one. Other than that it will be the exact same game as before.

And no matter what will they do with this "enhanced" version of gtaonline it will NEVER justify releasing GTA VI without its own online mode made in that new engine.

The difference between GTAV and GTAVI will be so jaw dropping that by the time GTA VI is out no one will want to play the old gtao anymore. You have to think how much money they made with gtaonline. They would be crazy not trying to recreate that with the next game.

Your idea that GTA VI will be released without multiplayer mode and they will just keep improving the old gtaonline we have right now is simply ridiculous my man. The code is a mess, its barely holding together cause trying to change or improve anything about the old code creates 1000 new bugs.  Releasing GTAVI without a new version of gtaonline would be like releasing GTAV with GTASA-MP mod. Or releasing RDR2 without RDRO and instead giving us RDR1 online. It would be too outdated.

We will either start with a new character or they will let us port our old character into the new character creator. They will probably create some kid of story explanation like "You killed the wrong guy and now you became the most wanted person in LS! the government is on to you and they seized all your belonging. You have to change your identity and fly to a new city to start fresh" 

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Retro_Causality

its the 31st

 

City Morgue's masterpiece album is out i believe

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skc_2srk
48 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

Your line of thought have only one flaw: a brand new map take literally years to be made. R* put hands to work in the map or maps of gta 6, whatever that will be, soon after the release of gta V. Dont forget tha they statyed to work in RDR 2, 8 years prior the release. So, do you the all think they would have the work to take other big endeavour of making a map expansion to gta online as a brand new city? There's no way. At maximum, it can be a polished LC, bcz the map is already done. But no way we will get a new other city. So, if, IF, a map expansion is the "new brand location" and not just a new bulding, it will be just a polished new LC or a new small town, like NY, that would not be so hard to add new locations to it, but, if is NY do not expect more amount of land of the size of a Paleto Bay and Sandy Shores united.

R* had a Liberty City version for gta v but it was scrap i dont know why, that is one good candidate

 

Another Candidate is North Yankton, could use some revise but the stuff is Already in the game

 

If its something new it will be a very small city, something like san fierro wouldnt require that much voice acting since its still san andreas and sf is usually smaller, actually San Fierro would be perfect for a cop dlc, but that will never happen

 

Actually new location will be a laundromat for the so expected washing machine dlc, cant wait to clean me clothes

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Lonely-Martin
9 minutes ago, Retro_Causality said:

its the 31st

 

City Morgue's masterpiece album is out i believe

Masterpiece, lol. I hope you use that term loosely. 👹

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Tennyzulander
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, US Marshal1911 said:

You’re point is not a good one, if everyone is a criminal ceo mastermind then remove Lamar, Gerald, Simeon, Madrazo, Ron, and Trevor missions from GTA online because you’re so high and mighty that you don’t want to do missions. That attitude is BS. Not everyone has a bland stale mind and can’t use an imagination to have fun. Who gives a flying sh*t if we are ceo’s. I still run missions for Gerald and I’m lvl 876 with 106M. I’m giving you the most logical way that Rockstar can justify and introduce LC with old cast and your just being a dismal entitled player who can’t see past your own lack off cognitive imagination. 

NY means North Yankton not New York 

Lot of people forget that North Yankton is based off North Dakota. Even the police car livery in North Yankton is based off the North Dakota State police livery. 

1 hour ago, Pizzahut said:

Did you forget New York ís Liberty City?

Many forget that Alderney is New Jersey and New Jersey is right across from NYC in real life. I use to live in Bayridge Brooklyn NYC and you can see New Jersey from there. 

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US Marshal1911
8 minutes ago, Tennyzulander said:

North Yankton is based off North Dakota. Even the police car livery in North Yankton is based off the North Dakota State police livery. 

Alderney is New Jersey and New Jersey is right across from NYC in real life. I use to live in Bayridge Brooklyn NYC and you can see New Jersey from there. 

 

The ABBREVIATION NY means North Yankton. What is the issue. No one said North Yankton is New York. Why are we having reading comprehension problems people

 

 

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Clancy the Bandito
Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, ilikedogs125 said:

I guess.... but they did announce the Diamond Casino and Resort update and the After Hours update pretty early. Same for the Gunrunning update 

that was different though. those were BIG updates, and they already teased the update coming up. tbh, i don't think it's going to be a big enough update to warrant an early newswire.

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Piro

We had a lot of discussions about the possibility of using LC and why it would make sense to do it right now (long story shot - cause it would convince people to buy the game again and they could keep re-releasing old businesses on the new map for the next couple of years, low effort, double the profits) 

But here's something we haven't talked about before. IF they are remaking LC, would they just improve it visually(hi-res 3d models and textures) ? or would it be the 2020 version of Liberty City? Would they add new billboards? Replace old construction sites with new buildings?

What about radio stations? Would they use songs from GTA IV? or new ones cause its 2020?  I assume they would half-ass it by giving us all the old radios from LS + a single new one called "radio Liberty City" (at least at first) 

What about NPC and cars? They would probably just reuse the ones we have and add a handful of new ones so it dosn't look exactly the same? 

How about side activities like bowling? and restaurants? I guess they would just close them off for now or let us buy food the same way we buy snacks?

There's a loooot of stuff they would have to consider. 

That why I think for the heist they would let see only a small portion of the map as a tease of things to come. That would be a great way to promote the enhanced version of the game.

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AUScowboy

Discussion about the December DLC should be considered off topic, this is after all The Next DLC Thread..

 

Seriously though, my expectations are below low for this summer update. I'm betting it'll be a smaller roster of cars, more reskinned clothing, no weapons and one or two QOL fixes that some will hold up and claim it makes the underwhelming update worthwhile. 

 

Same for the December update TBH. A new heist when we just got one, likely on an island or new building (they are not adding an entire new map to load into lol..) It's pretty obvious they're just coasting on minimal effort until the new consoles drop and they can shed the shackles of this current generation. I'm not even mad or complaining... it's been a fun ride, I'll be happy if we get a few highly demanded cars before next gen (although let's be honest, Comet Classic, ZR350 and anything truly in high demand will be held back for the enhanced enhanced version most likely).

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42 minutes ago, US Marshal1911 said:

 

The ABBREVIATION NY means North Yankton. What is the issue. No one said North Yankton is New York. Why are we having reading comprehension problems people

 

 

Don't start please. No need to insult people's intelligence man. No need for that crap. I can read just fine thank you. Just a minor mistake. 

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1 hour ago, Piro said:

  

The enhanced version will just make it look more like the PC version. It will run better and they will probably add animals to it. Maybe more trees (you can see in GTA V trailer that the original version of the game had way more trees in paleto bay, they removed them to get better performance). And If we are lucky they might add high res textures and a shader like this one. Other than that it will be the exact same game as before.

And no matter what will they do with this "enhanced" version of gtaonline it will NEVER justify releasing GTA VI without its own online mode made in that new engine.

The difference between GTAV and GTAVI will be so jaw dropping that by the time GTA VI is out no one will want to play the old gtao anymore. You have to think how much money they made with gtaonline. They would be crazy not trying to recreate that with the next game.

Your idea that GTA VI will be released without multiplayer mode and they will just keep improving the old gtaonline we have right now is simply ridiculous my man. The code is a mess, its barely holding together cause trying to change or improve anything about the old code creates 1000 new bugs.  Releasing GTAVI without a new version of gtaonline would be like releasing GTAV with GTASA-MP mod. Or releasing RDR2 without RDRO and instead giving us RDR1 online. It would be too outdated.

We will either start with a new character or they will let us port our old character into the new character creator. They will probably create some kid of story explanation like "You killed the wrong guy and now you became the most wanted person in LS! the government is on to you and they seized all your belonging. You have to change your identity and fly to a new city to start fresh" 

 

Yeah, good point.

But is frustating to think that the PS5 version will be just a better 4k version of GTA V... And its mean that while GTA Online are getting update and new maps, its a sign that GTA VI is far from release.

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1 hour ago, US Marshal1911 said:

You’re point is not a good one, if everyone is a criminal ceo mastermind then remove Lamar, Gerald, Simeon, Madrazo, Ron, and Trevor missions from GTA online because you’re so high and mighty that you don’t want to do missions. That attitude is BS. Not everyone has a bland stale mind and can’t use an imagination to have fun. Who gives a flying sh*t if we are ceo’s. I still run missions for Gerald and I’m lvl 876 with 106M. I’m giving you the most logical way that Rockstar can justify and introduce LC with old cast and your just being a dismal entitled player who can’t see past your own lack off cognitive imagination. 

NY means North Yankton not New York 

According to the gta o storyline, Lamar is ur net friend ,Simeon, Gerald are the 1st and 2nd guy Lumar introduced.Lester and Madrezo,Trevor know you when u have earn reputation.

You know more high end ppl when u promote. Working for ur ceo/mc or some low end contractor is ur own choice in game but we are taking about the logic of story ok?

If we work for the low end npc in LC, there should be a reason like we have big benefit from helping them or they are rich enough to employ us,

 

If they appear as helpers in new missions....hope the Devs treat them better

If u didn't play gta 4, how u think Johnny when u see him get killed easily by Trevor?

Tony look like the boss of nightclub but actually he has his NightClub bankruptcy in LC and he is now working for us,

Packie was the bank Heist planner in LC but he nearly get caught by robbing a drug store with a noob partner in gta 5 and then get threw in a police vehicle in gta online

Bruice look like a success business man having his own health(?) product in gta 5 but we soon find out that his business is in trouble

In gta 4, he can hand out with you and bitches like.a boss but in Diamond casino dlc he seeking for a opportunity in casino alone.....Later he is Yung Ancestor fellow and get shot in his leg....

 

 

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5 minutes ago, drizztle said:

According to the gta o storyline, Lamar is ur net friend ,Simeon, Gerald are the 1st and 2nd guy Lumar introduced.Lester and Madrezo,Trevor know you when u have earn reputation.

You know more high end ppl when u promote. Working for ur ceo/mc or some low end contractor is ur own choice in game but we are llaking about the logic of story ok?

If we work for the low end npc in LC, there should be a reason like we have big benefit from helping them or they are rich enough to employ us,

 

If they appear as helper in new mission....hope the Devs treat them better

If u didn't play gta 4, how u think Johnny when u see him get killed easily by Trevor?

Tony look like the boss of nightclub but actually he has his NightClub bankruptcy in LC and he is now working for us,

Packie was the bank Heist planner in LC but he nearly get caught by robbing a drug store with a noob partner in gta 5 and then get threw in a police vehicle in gta online

Bruice look like a success business man having his own health(?) product in gta 5 but we soon find out that his business is in trouble

In gta 4, he can hand out with you and bitches like.a boss but in Diamond casino dlc he seeking for a opportunity in casino alone.....Later he is Yung Ancestor fellow and get shot in his leg....

 

 

You have no imagination what so ever to think freely. I’m sorry you have to think there is only one way to play GTA. 

There is no set storyline rule to GTA Online. You play it to play it. Quit thinking too much into it. 

Yes we are “criminal masterminds, ceo, whatever” but we certainly are not at the top. You can complain, bitch, and whine about the characters all you want, it doesn’t make your play style the end game that everyone must follow. 

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About the police dlc apparently being cancelled (the topic was locked before I could post).

 

I honest think that, if it was true in the first place, it’s cancellation is a good thing. 

 

Its likely that it would have been a free roam event, like business. Players that have wanted level may appear on map or and ‘police officers’ could kill or arrest them to gain money and rp. This would have been good if the game wasn’t populated by flying bikes with rockets and people who’s whole idea of fun is killing random people mtuiple times for no reason. Is possble that they would have pushed the roleplay aspect like they did in red dead online as well. Cop stuf would have been nice I suppose though.

 

Its that or it would have been a game mode that no one really played two weeks after it’s release or unless it’s 2/3+ cash and rp. 

 

As for the supposed reason for the cancellation, yeah it sucks, but there is a big difference between “they cancelled it because someone complained” and “they cancelled it because a dlc that gave players the ability to conduct police brutality/corruption at a time when these are societal concerns isn’t probably a good thing.” 

 

We don’t even known if it was true. 

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VitoCorleone1992
2 hours ago, Pizzahut said:

Did you forget New York ís Liberty City?

 

Edit: I'm retardo.

I usually also mistake NY (North Yankton) to New York. xP

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ddarko12
42 minutes ago, AUScowboy said:

they can shed the shackles of this current generation

LOL. With the low effort sh*t they do they could keep updating current generation platforms. But they'll stop, and you know they will, but probably bc they're in a deal with Sony to promote moving to next-gen e.g. to boost PS5 sales too.

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HamwithCheese
3 minutes ago, Sootyjared said:

We don’t even known if it was true. 

We don't. CnC was supposedly a cut game mode from an early online build, it only resurfaced again because, supposedly, they were testing "different lobbies" or something like that.

 

I think that was them running the map expansion. I wouldn't be surprised if CnC didn't exist this whole time.

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drizztle
8 minutes ago, US Marshal1911 said:

You have no imagination what so ever to think freely. I’m sorry you have to think there is only one way to play GTA. 

There is no set storyline rule to GTA Online. You play it to play it. Quit thinking too much into it. 

Yes we are “criminal masterminds, ceo, whatever” but we certainly are not at the top. You can complain, bitch, and whine about the characters all you want, it doesn’t make your play style the end game that everyone must follow. 

There's a set storyline but u have the freedom not to follow it.

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7 minutes ago, drizztle said:

There's a set storyline but u have the freedom not to follow it.

Literally, We all had CEO offices and empires before Rockstar added new Lamar, Simeon, and Gerald missions recently. What fricken’ logic storyline does that make you. If we are so high up why would Rockstar even bother making new low end missions. They would have left it alone but that’s how your bad your argument doesn’t stick. Rockstar themselves don’t even follow a storyline so why are you trying to defend a useless point?

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Tennyzulander
Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, US Marshal1911 said:

Literally, We all had CEO offices and empires before Rockstar added new Lamar, Simeon, and Gerald missions recently. What fricken’ logic storyline does that make you. If we are so high up why would Rockstar even bother making new low end missions. They would have left it alone but that’s how your bad your argument doesn’t stick. Rockstar themselves don’t even follow a storyline so why are you trying to defend a useless point?

Damn, why are you so salty about what he thinks? It's a thread. 

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CommanderBlack
51 minutes ago, Piro said:

We had a lot of discussions about the possibility of using LC and why it would make sense to do it right now (long story shot - cause it would convince people to buy the game again and they could keep re-releasing old businesses on the new map for the next couple of years, low effort, double the profits) 

But here's something we haven't talked about before. IF they are remaking LC, would they just improve it visually(hi-res 3d models and textures) ? or would it be the 2020 version of Liberty City? Would they add new billboards? Replace old construction sites with new buildings?

What about radio stations? Would they use songs from GTA IV? or new ones cause its 2020?  I assume they would half-ass it by giving us all the old radios from LS + a single new one called "radio Liberty City" (at least at first) 

What about NPC and cars? They would probably just reuse the ones we have and add a handful of new ones so it dosn't look exactly the same? 

How about side activities like bowling? and restaurants? I guess they would just close them off for now or let us buy food the same way we buy snacks?

There's a loooot of stuff they would have to consider. 

That why I think for the heist they would let see only a small portion of the map as a tease of things to come. That would be a great way to promote the enhanced version of the game.

if it were so I think we only have the Gta IV radio stations in Liberty city and we can only hear the radio stations when we are in liberty city. how we can only hear the blaine county radio station in blaine county and WTCR in Los Santos

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